Chit-Chat: The Feels

LexieLily · March 16

1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

From ABC News. Good thing Trump and Elmo cut all those funds and jobs at FEMA and NOAA. We can throw those 36 deaths on the pile along with the hundreds of thousands Covid deaths.

Millions of Americans across the country are on alert for a severe weather outbreak as violent, long-track tornadoes with damaging winds of up to 80 mph and large hail are expected across the Midwest and South with the cross-country storm moving east.

The same storm system delivered raging winds to the Plains states earlier, leading to wildfires and severe dust storms that left more than a dozen people dead in Kansas, Texas and Oklahoma.

Overall, at least 36 deaths have been recorded from the cross-country storm system.

I wish there was just one day where Trump doesn't speak and doesn't commit multiple crimes.

Edited March 16 by LexieLily

PRgal · March 16

2 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Trump's word salads are infamous. He can't string ten words together without mispronouncing, butchering or plain making up half of them. Some say it's late stage tertiary syphilis. After all, he did say SDI's were his personal Viet Nam.

At his age, there's probably some dementia going on in there too. And they say that Biden was bordering.....

Dimity · March 16

10 minutes ago, PRgal said:

At his age, there's probably some dementia going on in there too. And they say that Biden was bordering.....

Whether either man actually has or is bordering on dementia is up for debate of course, but the reality is that past 65 the chances of developing dementia increase with each passing year.

The prevalence of dementia more than doubles every 5 years for Canadians age 65 and older, from less than 1% for those age 65 to 69 to about 25% for those 85 and older.

I would assume these stats hold true for the US as well. In any event while most seniors do not develop dementia, 25% is not an insignificant percentage. Perhaps rather than focus on Biden or even Trump what people should be doing is taking a long, hard look at whether anyone should hold high public office after reaching a certain age milestone.

Edited March 16 by Dimity

tres bien · March 16

Now that the senate democrats have CR funding behind them they need to unite and get a new leader. Schumer explained why he thought the democrats were between a rock and a hard place and I agree. Being the party to shut down the government wouldn’t have done them any favors

Trump is not going to listen to democrats, republicans or judges he’s going to continue to run roughshod over them and do what he wants legalities be damned

But if the democrats have Schumer as leader they’re going to be screwed trying to go forward

A minority of democrats proved they can take over and force someone out of power (Al Franken even Joe Biden) surely they can unite and take him down as their leader

LexieLily · March 16

Who would be the leader, then? AOC? Chris Murphy? They seem to be two of the few talking/standing up to Trump.

Yeah No · March 16

3 hours ago, JustHereForFood said:

Apparently he has a kinky sex tape of him. How bad can it be that he thinks his followers would not spin it into something positive? We have already established that they would forgive anything, probably even murder.

Yeah I've thought about that, but whatever it is may be his kryptonite in that it's not how others would feel about it but how HE would feel about it if it were to become public. He may have a shred of shame over having the world see something like that, especially if it makes him look inferior in some way. Like if it's a sex tape that proves he's not well endowed or can't perform or something otherwise embarrassing, like he's wearing women's undies or something. I don't think even he would be impervious to the world seeing something like that even if his base didn't care about it.

tres bien · March 16

3 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Who would be the leader, then? AOC? Chris Murphy? They seem to be two of the few talking/standing up to Trump.

I only meant senate minority leader

Lugal · March 16

3 hours ago, JustHereForFood said:

On the topic of Biden's supposed mental decline - maybe he should have taken that cognitive test that Trump bragged about for such a long time. He could probably have remembered 5 words. Trump doesn't sound like he's in a better shape mentally and he's petty and vindictive on top of that, which is a dangerous combination.

Biden has diminished mentally. Compare any of his presidential speeches to any speech he made in the 80's or even the Biden/Palin debate in 2008. The man could land a barb. Trump is also in mental decline, but Trump was lucky enough that standing next to Biden made him look better than he was. Harris did not have enough time to run against him and really hammer home the contrast.

Dimity · March 16

1 minute ago, Yeah No said:

Like if it's a sex tape that proves he's not well endowed or can't perform or something otherwise embarrassing, like he's wearing women's undies or something. I don't think even he would be impervious to the world seeing something like that even if his base didn't care about it.

Let's face it, based on their actions during the lead up to the election all the male MAGA would be wearing women's underwear over their clothes. They did it with adult diapers...

tres bien · March 16

27 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Let's face it, based on their actions during the lead up to the election all the male MAGA would be wearing women's underwear over their clothes. They did it with adult diapers...

Don’t forget the gauze bandages

They will do anything to stroke his ego

OT but while giving his hideous speech at the Department of Justice on Friday he said “my ear is still throbbing”

🤣🤣🥲

Edited March 16 by tres bien

Yeah No · March 16

27 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Let's face it, based on their actions during the lead up to the election all the male MAGA would be wearing women's underwear over their clothes. They did it with adult diapers...

Yeah, I have no doubt they would, but even though supportive of him them knowing it may trigger feelings of humiliation in him, and making a thing about it may trigger even more humiliation. Feeling humiliated by something may not have any basis in how anyone else would feel about it. People can have strange quirks out of character to what we'd expect from them. Maybe he was humiliated once as a kid when people saw him naked and then made fun of him or something and now it's that thing he never got over and would never want to face again.

Then again he may just not want certain people to see it, like his wife or his kids. It's one thing to hear about something but to see it is different. Although his wife would likely stay with him anyway. But again, it may be more about how HE would feel about her knowing it than how she'd feel about it.

peacheslatour · March 16

4 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

Yeah, I have no doubt they would, but even though supportive of him them knowing it may trigger feelings of humiliation in him, and making a thing about it may trigger even more humiliation. Feeling humiliated by something may not have any basis in how anyone else would feel about it. People can have strange quirks out of character to what we'd expect from them. Maybe he was humiliated once as a kid when people saw him naked and then made fun of him or something and now it's that thing he never got over and would never want to face again.

Then again he may just not want certain people to see it, like his wife or his kids. It's one thing to hear about something but to see it is different. Although his wife would likely stay with him anyway. But again, it may be more about how HE would feel about her knowing it than how she'd feel about it.

I wonder if it has something to do with Stormy Daniels description of his "tiny mushroom"?

tessaray · March 16

44 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

Yeah I've thought about that, but whatever it is may be his kryptonite in that it's not how others would feel about it but how HE would feel about it if it were to become public. He may have a shred of shame over having the world see something like that, especially if it makes him look inferior in some way. Like if it's a sex tape that proves he's not well endowed or can't perform or something otherwise embarrassing, like he's wearing women's undies or something. I don't think even he would be impervious to the world seeing something like that even if his base didn't care about it.

This makes sense. Those of us who are older remember J. Edgar Hoover was once one of the most feared men on the planet but now he's just an old joke about cross dressing that younger audiences don't even really get.

Makai · March 16

52 minutes ago, Lugal said:

Trump is also in mental decline, but Trump was lucky enough that standing next to Biden made him look better than he was. Harris did not have enough time to run against him and really hammer home the contrast.

Eh.. Trump was rambling about Arnold Palmer’s penis by the end of the campaign so I can’t agree that the contrast wasn’t hammered home or that Biden made Trump look more cognizant by comparison. He is just judged by a different standard.

Affogato · March 16

https://apple.news/AKDbyF9auTBWx3c8mpNiLRA

'Accelerating cognitive decline': Donald Trump dementia suspicions spiking after several awkward memory lapses

Mar, 13, 2025 3:20 am

————

of course some of it (did I say that) could be gaslighting

Mollywolly555 · March 16

1 hour ago, Yeah No said:

Yeah I've thought about that, but whatever it is may be his kryptonite in that it's not how others would feel about it but how HE would feel about it if it were to become public. He may have a shred of shame over having the world see something like that, especially if it makes him look inferior in some way. Like if it's a sex tape that proves he's not well endowed or can't perform or something otherwise embarrassing, like he's wearing women's undies or something. I don't think even he would be impervious to the world seeing something like that even if his base didn't care about it.

I remember hearing that Trump owes big $ to Russia because they loaned him $, when businesses in US and other countries would not, because he never paid back original loans and did not hold to stipulations of contracts with them.

He just sicced his lawyers on them to hold everything up in courts and delay settlements ad infinitum. But Russia doesn't play that way.

His self proclaimed millionaire/billionaire persona has been a ruse for a long time...to New Yorkers it was old news. But I think that King Midas image is his Achilles heel. The wives and women are just window dressing to shore up that impersonation.

And now he is bilking the US for everything we've got to pay himself to cover his gold-plated, crumbling, rust-covered decaying husk of humanity.

peacheslatour · March 16

1 minute ago, Mollywolly555 said:

I remember hearing that Trump owes big $ to Russia because they loaned him $, when businesses in US and other countries would not, because he never paid back original loans and did not hold to stipulations of contracts with them.

He just sicced his lawyers on them to hold everything up in courts and delay settlements ad infinitum. But Russia doesn't play that way.

His self proclaimed millionaire/billionaire persona has been a ruse for a long time...to New Yorkers it was old news. But I think that King Midas image is his Achilles heel. The wives and women are just window dressing to shore up that impersonation.

And now he is bilking the US for everything we've got to pay himself to cover his gold-plated, crumbling, rust-covered decaying husk of humanity.

That's what I meant when I said Musk paid off Trump's creditors and that's why Donald is letting him run roughshod over federal agencies. Musk could blow Donald's whole billionaire persona with one interview.

Affogato · March 16

35 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

Yeah, I have no doubt they would, but even though supportive of him them knowing it may trigger feelings of humiliation in him, and making a thing about it may trigger even more humiliation. Feeling humiliated by something may not have any basis in how anyone else would feel about it. People can have strange quirks out of character to what we'd expect from them. Maybe he was humiliated once as a kid when people saw him naked and then made fun of him or something and now it's that thing he never got over and would never want to face again.

Then again he may just not want certain people to see it, like his wife or his kids. It's one thing to hear about something but to see it is different. Although his wife would likely stay with him anyway. But again, it may be more about how HE would feel about her knowing it than how she'd feel about it.

I am content not knowing anything about Trump’s sexual parts or proclivities.

ProudMary · March 16

1 hour ago, LexieLily said:

Who would be the leader, then? AOC? Chris Murphy? They seem to be two of the few talking/standing up to Trump.

Elizabeth Warren.

peacheslatour · March 16

3 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

Elizabeth Warren.

I love her but she's too old. We need new blood.

Today I learned that "trickle down" economics was originally called -

"Trickle Down Economics" came from Horse Excrement. The theory was if you fed enough oats to a horse he would eventually shit enough undigested oats to feed sparrows.

Mollywolly555 · March 16

10 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

That's what I meant when I said Musk paid off Trump's creditors and that's why Donald is letting him run roughshod over federal agencies. Musk could blow Donald's whole billionaire persona with one interview.

I can see that.

Then is Trump still sucking up to Putin for further loans? Or what?

1 minute ago, peacheslatour said:

I love her but she's too old. We need new blood.

Today I learned that "trickle down" economics was originally called -

"Trickle Down Economics" came from Horse Excrement. The theory was if you fed enough oats to a horse he would eventually shit enough undigested oats to feed sparrows.

Jasmine Crocket? She is outspoken and smart.

peacheslatour · March 16

9 minutes ago, Mollywolly555 said:

I can see that.

Then is Trump still sucking up to Putin for further loans? Or what?

Jasmine Crocket? She is outspoken and smart.

I like Jamie Raskin too.

ProudMary · March 16

1 hour ago, Lugal said:

Biden has diminished mentally. Compare any of his presidential speeches to any speech he made in the 80's or even the Biden/Palin debate in 2008. The man could land a barb.

Only one year ago, March 7, 2024: Joe Biden's final State of the Union address. Joe landed plenty of barbs, in a speech where he shouldn't have had to, but the disrespect he received from the Republican side absolutely warranted it. I'd go so far as to say he landed a mic drop. Just ask Rick Scott.

As for "Biden has diminished mentally," he's no longer the president. There's only one old, malignant narcissist, mentally diminished man we have to be concerned with now. His sociopathic, high on ketamine sidekick is also a major concern.

tres bien · March 16

But they need to oust Schumer as senate minority leader so a house member won’t qualify

There are younger senators Amy Klobuchar or Chris Murphy for instance

Edited March 16 by tres bien

ProudMary · March 16

12 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

I love her but she's too old. We need new blood.

11 minutes ago, Mollywolly555 said:

Jasmine Crocket? She is outspoken and smart.

1 minute ago, peacheslatour said:

I like Jamie Raskin too.

I love Crockett and Raskin, but they're in the House. We're talking about someone who can replace Schumer as Senate Majority Leader.

Please don't say "too old" about Elizabeth Warren. Her mental acuity would stand up to any thirty-something. Having her as Minority Leader would be a sight to see. Bernie would be great, too, but Bernie's an Independent, not a Democrat.

peacheslatour · March 16

Just now, ProudMary said:

I love Crockett and Raskin, but they're in the House. We're talking about someone who can replace Schumer as Senate Majority Leader.

Please don't say "too old" about Elizabeth Warren. Her mental acuity would stand up to any thirty-something. Having her as Minority Leader would be a sight to see. Bernie would be great, too, but Bernie's an Independent, not a Democrat.

Elizabeth is 75. Aren't there any Democrats, just as sharp that would be able to serve much further into the future? And for the record, I would have vastly preferred her to Hillary.

Anela · March 16

This is an illness they made up.
https://www.newsweek.com/minnesota-senate-republicans-trump-derangement-syndrome-mental-illness-2045600

They’re working around the clock, on absolute bullshit.

ProudMary · March 16

1 minute ago, peacheslatour said:

Elizabeth is 75. Aren't there any Democrats, just as sharp that would be able to serve much further into the future? And for the record, I would have vastly preferred her to Hillary.

Just as sharp as Elizabeth Warren? IMO, no.

Younger and impressive, again IMO, Murphy, Tammy Duckworth.

Until two nights ago I would have had Brian Schatz on that list, but he's on the "should be primaried" list now.

I would consider Adam Schiff, but he had a couple of votes on his way out of the House last December that had me scratching my head. The thing is, he's a Senate newbie and I doubt the other Senators would vote for soneone with less than three months of Senate tenure.

partofme · March 16

16 minutes ago, tres bien said:

There are younger senators Amy Klobuchar or Chris Murphy for instance

Amy is too centrist for me. I like Chris a lot from what little I know of him. I’d be another vote for Warren, even at her advanced age she’s younger that Trump.

ProudMary · March 16

One other thought: There is a Senate leadership election every two years, when the new Congress is seated. Anyone who was elected to replace Schumer would have to be re-elected as Leader in January, 2026. If someone shows themself to be incapable of leadership, the party can pick someone new.

Edited to add: Kicking myself for forgetting to name Cory Booker as a great candidate for Minority Leader. I'd still rank Elizabeth Warren as my #1, but Sen. Booker would be my second choice.

Edited March 16 by ProudMary

lookeyloo · March 16

So he violated the court order to turn the planes around. What next. Bondi isn't sending the marshals to arrest him.

ProudMary · March 16

8 minutes ago, lookeyloo said:

So he violated the court order to turn the planes around. What next. Bondi isn't sending the marshals to arrest him.

I just read this earlier today. From Marc Elias' Democracy Docket:

If the Marshals Go Rogue, Courts Have Other Ways to Enforce their Orders

https://www.democracydocket.com/opinion/if-the-marshals-go-rogue-courts-have-other-ways-to-enforce-their-orders/

peacheslatour · March 16

8 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

Just as sharp as Elizabeth Warren? IMO, no.

Younger and impressive, again IMO, Murphy, Tammy Duckworth.

Until two nights ago I would have had Brian Schatz on that list, but he's on the "should be primaried" list now.

I would consider Adam Schiff, but he had a couple of votes on his way out of the House last December that had me scratching my head. The thing is, he's a Senate newbie and I doubt the other Senators would vote for soneone with less than three months of Senate tenure.

2 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

I just read this earlier today. From Marc Elias' Democracy Docket:

If the Marshals Go Rogue, Courts Have Other Ways to Enforce their Orders

https://www.democracydocket.com/opinion/if-the-marshals-go-rogue-courts-have-other-ways-to-enforce-their-orders/

And if the courts deputize people to enforce their rulings, Trump will deputize groups like the proud boys and the oath keepers.

Basically, the constitution allows the president to "call on militias", in effect deputizing them to serve as part of the federal military apparatus. The militias can be used to put down "armed insurrection" and "repel invasion", but they cannot take on a Law Enforcement role when under federal authority. Militias also cannot be used to oversee elections.

However, Congress must approve of the use of the militia. In theory.

bluegirl147 · March 16

Whatever Putin has on Trump it's something that makes him feel embarrassed. And with how insecure Trump is could very well be what others above have mentioned. It very well could be the golden shower or as it is known pee pee tape with Trump getting the shower. It puts him in a submissive position and we all know how alpha dog he likes to appear. Except around Putin and Musk when he is on a leash.

I would like to see a woman step forward as Senate minority leader. Warren or Duckworth would be great. Meanwhile in the House Jefferies right now is a disappointment. I wish Katie Porter was still there or better yet in the Senate but I think Jamie Raskin would be great.

Bastet · March 16

2 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

I wish Katie Porter was still there or better yet in the Senate

She recently announced she's going to run for governor of CA. We're going to start out with practically every high-profile Democrat in the state in that race, but if Kamala tosses her hat into the ring, a lot of them are going to drop out (Porter has already indicated she'll do so).

Edited March 16 by Bastet

Makai · March 16

43 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Elizabeth is 75. Aren't there any Democrats, just as sharp that would be able to serve much further into the future? And for the record, I would have vastly preferred her to Hillary.

I absolutely agree with you. I think she’s great but it would feel like temporary stop gap rather than a true step forward.

It doesn’t do anything to help right now but AOC is being pushed to challenge Schumer for his seat in 2028.

peacheslatour · March 16

8 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Whatever Putin has on Trump it's something that makes him feel embarrassed. And with how insecure Trump is could very well be what others above have mentioned. It very well could be the golden shower or as it is known pee pee tape with Trump getting the shower. It puts him in a submissive position and we all know how alpha dog he likes to appear. Except around Putin and Musk when he is on a leash.

I would like to see a woman step forward as Senate minority leader. Warren or Duckworth would be great. Meanwhile in the House Jefferies right now is a disappointment. I wish Katie Porter was still there or better yet in the Senate but I think Jamie Raskin would be great.

I almost brought up Katie Porter but after she pulled a Trump "the election was rigged" crap after her loss against Schiff, it seems like the Democratic party turned on her.

lookeyloo · March 16

34 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

And if the courts deputize people to enforce their rulings, Trump will deputize groups like the proud boys and the oath keepers.

Basically, the constitution allows the president to "call on militias", in effect deputizing them to serve as part of the federal military apparatus. The militias can be used to put down "armed insurrection" and "repel invasion", but they cannot take on a Law Enforcement role when under federal authority. Militias also cannot be used to oversee elections.

However, Congress must approve of the use of the militia. In theory.

The Sheriffs are poised to help trump. The book https://www.amazon.com/Highest-Law-Land-Unchecked-Threatens/dp/0593471318 explains.

tres bien · March 16

A French lawmaker has called for the US to return the Statue of Liberty saying America no longer represents it’s founding values

Thanks Donny

Blergh · March 16

Remember:

Those who deliberately attempt to suppress or erase history fear others' learning the truth and becoming emboldened from it instead of protecting others from lies!

peacheslatour · March 17

56 minutes ago, Blergh said:

Remember:

Those who deliberately attempt to suppress or erase history fear others' learning the truth and becoming emboldened from it instead of protecting others from lies!

It was inevitable. End stage Capitalism. Capital and Government become one entity. Religion is one of their tools but only one. The next step is ending private property. The Citizens United out front shoulda told you.

fairffaxx · March 17

2 hours ago, lookeyloo said:

So he violated the court order to turn the planes around. What next. Bondi isn't sending the marshals to arrest him.

Remember the Mission Impossible TV show in the mid-late '60s? My husband & his brothers watched it & I never paid much attention, but I seem to recall that it dealt with assassination as an instrument of policy (unacknowledged by those in power, of course). Discreet removal of dangerous elements, for the benefit of all.

supposebly · March 17

2 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Basically, the constitution allows the president to "call on militias", in effect deputizing them to serve as part of the federal military apparatus.

Seriously. You guys need a new constitution. 😲

ProudMary · March 17

A few Democrats, e.g. Govs. Walz and Pritzker, Reps. AOC, Jasmine Crockett (who's using TikTok a good deal as a medium), Jamie Raskin seem to get it, but Senate Caucus colleague, Independent Bernie Sanders is on the road in red districts giving a master class. This is a good read. ⬇️

Bernie Sanders Is Showing Democrats How It’s Done

The Vermont senator is taking his anti-Trump tour to red America—and it’s a smash hit.

https://newrepublic.com/article/192546/bernie-sanders-anti-trump-tour

With his “Fighting Oligarchy” tour, Bernie has begun holding a series of rallies in GOP-represented swing districts to bring attention to Trump’s billionaire-boosting, middle class–busting agenda. As he’s swung through heartland states such as Nebraska and Iowa, the grassroots response has been electric. Last Friday, 4,000 people came out to hear him in Kenosha, Wisconsin; the next morning he was joined by 2,600 in Altoona, Wisconsin, a town of less than 10,000; and then in a suburb outside Detroit he spoke to a crowd of 9,000 that filled a packed gym, two overflow rooms, and the parking lot outside.

Sanders seems to understand something that many Democratic elites do not: In today’s brutally divided attentional economy, Democrats can never take for granted that their messaging will get through to people without sustained efforts to capture and direct voters’ attention.

...

Hiding out while the world burns is an untenable look for Democrats. But they may find themselves quickly back in business if they can simply swallow their pride and follow Bernie’s lead in breaking out of the paralyzing bubble of Capitol Hill and mixing it up with the ordinary people who—if Sanders’s success is any indication—are waiting for them to show up.

PRgal · March 17

OMG this is HILARIOUS!

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DG6WB6ky88J/?igsh=YnVrNnV5bXF6emQy

LexieLily · March 17

1 hour ago, ProudMary said:

A few Democrats, e.g. Govs. Walz and Pritzker, Reps. AOC, Jasmine Crockett (who's using TikTok a good deal as a medium), Jamie Raskin seem to get it, but Senate Caucus colleague, Independent Bernie Sanders is on the road in red districts giving a master class. This is a good read. ⬇️

Bernie Sanders Is Showing Democrats How It’s Done

The Vermont senator is taking his anti-Trump tour to red America—and it’s a smash hit.

https://newrepublic.com/article/192546/bernie-sanders-anti-trump-tour

I thought I read somewhere that AOC was coming to some of these cities, or at least Bernie invited her?

ProudMary · March 17

Just now, LexieLily said:

I thought I read somewhere that AOC was coming to some of these cities, or at least Bernie invited her?

Yes, I read that, too. I tjink it's a great idea.

DanaMB · March 17

Voters have short-term memories. As much as I love what Bernie Sanders is doing, I wonder if he has plans to continue it up until the 2026 elections.

LexieLily · March 17

17 minutes ago, DanaMB said:

Voters have short-term memories. As much as I love what Bernie Sanders is doing, I wonder if he has plans to continue it up until the 2026 elections.

Well, "lucky" for us, by the time 2026 comes around, I'm sure we'll be knee-deep into a recession not even MAGA can deny.

kittykat · March 17

Yes. Keep up the momentum. No showing up once every four years. Hit the road and let those voices be heard. Go Dems Go!

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