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Trump loves to throw around WWIII and other insidious things like it’s no big deal but he’s pissed off even our most least aggressive allies 

Yesterday one of Norway’s largest marine fuel companies, Haltbakk Bunkers, refused to refuel a US Navy vessel after yesterday’s White House event 

The company has reportedly announced it will stop refueling US Navy vessels and is calling on other European countries to deny service to American forces 

Boy this is going well

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JD Vance is also on vacation:

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/jd-vance-vermont/3645316/

These a**holes created a mess and then immediately fled to ski/golf/revel in all the chaos they caused.

While the article mentions protests being planned, there's also this:

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Supporters in Vermont said they wanted to show Vance appreciation for the work the administration is doing.

"We're trying to send a positive message that the president and the vice president are on the right track to bring our country back to the good old days where we were and can be there for all people. You know our country is about we the people," said Gregory Thayer, organizer of the Vance Support Rally.

It feels like we're on a rapidly sinking ship and some people are still blissfully unaware of it. Or maybe they're fine with it as long as they can see people they dislike drown first.

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On 2/28/2025 at 5:55 AM, Browncoat said:

that everyone has a stove and/or electricity or gas.  People in my area are having to make choices between paying their electric bill and buying food, because electricity is expensive.

And for my own self, I am not "too damn lazy" to cook a chicken.  I am tired.  Exhausted, even.  And it takes quite a lot longer than 15 minutes to cook a whole chicken.  I'll take the already cooked one, thanks.

If you are so poor that you cannot buy food *and* pay your electric bill, that is exactly what food banks/pantries are for.

And cooking a whole chicken takes about 10 minutes of actual time: putting it into a roast pan and putting some spices inside and out (maybe a whole onion or some sprigs of herbs inside and butter on the outside plus salt, pepper and garlic powder). The rest of the cooking time you don't do anything: the oven does it.

Seriously...acting like cooking from scratch is too much for working people is ridiculous - they could be doing that with their kids (or having their older kids do it) as a family activity and its easy to make a big batch of something on the weekend that you can freeze and/or portion out for weekday evenings when you are all too busy. I think it is really patronizing to think lower income people are only capable of eating fast or unhealthy packaged food and that they should be fed sugar and food with lots of salt with tax payer dollars so they can get diabetes and high blood pressure that then the tax payer can deal with also.

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6 minutes ago, krankydoodle said:

"We're trying to send a positive message that the president and the vice president are on the right track to bring our country back to the good old days where we were and can be there for all people. You know our country is about we the people," said Gregory Thayer, organizer of the Vance Support Rally.

Someone slept through history class in high school.

One of my librarian friends sent me this:

 

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1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

With very very few exceptions the world is with Ukraine.

And the exceptions are notably, well, exceptional.  Trump is certainly going to be known by the company he keeps.  I am somewhat appalled that most of the Republican party seems fine with that.

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13 minutes ago, krankydoodle said:

JD Vance is also on vacation:

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/jd-vance-vermont/3645316/

These a**holes created a mess and then immediately fled to ski/golf/revel in all the chaos they caused.

While the article mentions protests being planned, there's also this:

It feels like we're on a rapidly sinking ship and some people are still blissfully unaware of it. Or maybe they're fine with it as long as they can see people they dislike drown first.

I looked up Mr Gregory Thayer and he ran for Lieutenant Governor last year and lost in the Republican primary.  Maybe he is looking for a job in the Trump administration.

 

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23 minutes ago, isalicat said:

If you are so poor that you cannot buy food *and* pay your electric bill, that is exactly what food banks/pantries are for.

And cooking a whole chicken takes about 10 minutes of actual time: putting it into a roast pan and putting some spices inside and out (maybe a whole onion or some sprigs of herbs inside and butter on the outside plus salt, pepper and garlic powder). The rest of the cooking time you don't do anything: the oven does it.

Seriously...acting like cooking from scratch is too much for working people is ridiculous - they could be doing that with their kids (or having their older kids do it) as a family activity and its easy to make a big batch of something on the weekend that you can freeze and/or portion out for weekday evenings when you are all too busy. I think it is really patronizing to think lower income people are only capable of eating fast or unhealthy packaged food and that they should be fed sugar and food with lots of salt with tax payer dollars so they can get diabetes and high blood pressure that then the tax payer can deal with also.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoon_theory

Spoon theory is a metaphor describing the amount of physical or mental energy that a person has available for daily activities and tasks, and how it can become limited. The term was coined in a 2003 essay by American writer Christine Miserandino. In the essay, Miserandino describes her experience with chronic illness, using a handful of spoons as a metaphor for units of energy available to perform everyday actions. The metaphor has since been used to describe a wide range of disabilities, mental health issues, forms of marginalization, and other factors that might place unseen burdens on individuals.

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8 minutes ago, Anela said:

The rest of the cooking time you don't do anything: the oven does it.

Sorry Anela this was directed towards @isalicat not you!

According to my good old reliable Betty Crocker cookbook a 3-4 lb chicken takes about 2 hours to cook. It's nice if you are home in time to prep the bird and then cook it and dine, perhaps by candlelight?, but most parents with young children - and make no mistake the working poor are who we are primarily discussing here - are lucky to get home by 5 - do you think children are happy to wait until, at the earliest, 7 pm to have their supper?

But anyway this is a total sidetrack.  The bottom line is just because someone is struggling to make ends meet doesn't mean they are stupid and that they make and continue to make bad choices.

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15 minutes ago, kittykat said:

I don't like Trump casually throwing around WW3 threats.  Frankly if that happened half of America would have to come to this conclusion.

 

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We've been the baddies before.  Just ask Native Americans and African Americans. We didn't get involved in WW2 till we were attacked.  If Pearl Harbor hadn't happened would we have fought the Nazis?  But now we have more than newspapers and radio telling us what is happening.  We are watching in real time a stupid vindictive man trying to act like his hero Putin.  

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1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

When my son was young, I was off work by 5:00, then I picked him up at daycare, fought traffic on my way home and often stopped at the store on top of that. By the time we got home it was often 6:30. Then it was homework, bath and then dinner. We'd spend time reading to him and helping with homework when he was older. I did roast chicken on Sundays and it went for exactly two meals. I also made spaghetti sauce and chili and spread it out for dinners. We never ate fast food for dinner but I also had a husband to pick up a lot of the slack. I cannot imagine how single mothers do it.

Same, we worked in the city and lived in the outer suburbs when the kids were small. Usually got home by 6. The crockpot was my savior. We were on a tight budget back then but not struggling. I acknowledge this and am grateful. I wish more people would realise that they are a lot closer to poverty level if things go pear shaped for them (e.g. illness, job loss, death of a spouse), then they will ever be to being rich.

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3 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

. I cannot imagine how single mothers do it.

When I was single mother when I worked my son went to a daycare that was in a private home.   By the time I picked him up her family had had dinner and my son was fed.  It was an enormous help for me. I know I was lucky. 

And let's not forget it's not just lower income families that don't have a lot time to cook dinner.  Kids have  after school activities and sporting events.  There really isn't time to cook before or after. The problem for me is it's lower income families that are judged for what they feed their kids.

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14 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Wrong. He was trying to negotiate a deal for all the billion of dollars and military equipment we gave him...and the fact that if we continued to supply them, there was no guarantee of PEACE!  We've been funding his country since the beginning and appears to be no end in sight. 

No end in sight because... russian terrorists keep attacking Ukraine? They can go back any day they wish.

I realize there still seems to be a misunderstanding about the US' help in this war... Y'all, Ukraine did have nuclear weapons. They have them up in exchange from safety guarantees from USA, UK and Russia. US is supposed to be helping them - they were supposed to do much more back in 2014 when Russia invaded parts of Ukraine (during Obama's presidency actually). All of us in Europe have a moral obligation to help, plus it's in our own best interest, but USA and UK have a political obligation. Your word will no longer mean a thing after Trump's actions. It is shameful and will be a stain on US' reputation for years even if things somehow still work out for the better - though I no longer believe they will. Also, Zelensky said they were already supposed to pay them back anyway, so save all of that crap about selfless US' help as if it were a charity, nobody is buying that. (Never mind that USSR never paid back all of the millions that USA gave them in military equipment during WW2 - remind me again which country was only on the sidelines of that war and had the biggest economy boom afterwards?)

Also, all of those shitty pseudo-pacifists who say there should be no weapons, armies, blah, blah, take a guess if anyone will ever willingly give up nuclear weapons again. On the contrary, more countries will want them because we see they are the only guarantee of peace. Hell, I would like for my small-ass country to have them now and I used to be against all nuclear power (well, I was stupid back then, but I never imagined I would want weapons). The closest we can probably have them is Poland, and I can't fucking wait till they have them, I will sleep better.

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1 minute ago, lookeyloo said:

For  a minute I thought let's take the posters who think it is "so easy" and put them in the situation of struggling folks, both financially, time wise, emotionally, etc. and see how they do.  In theory a lot of things are easy.  In practical life with all that it deals, it is Not Easy.  When the first Mr lookeyloo left me I had two small children and no future.  I had to make one.  I was lucky in that he paid child support and alimony much to the chagrin of his new wife.  He was a doctor and could well afford it and the alimony had an end date.  But, I had to manage my misery of him leaving, two children who were in the middle, going to school so I could support myself when no more alimony.  I am lucky.  I also STRUGGLED on so many fronts and have so much compassion for others.  I decided to become a social worker.  Boy howdy, one doesn't have to look far to see how hard it is for others.  Compassion folks!!!!

Conservatives would much rather no deserving persons get any benefits than even one "undeserving" person get anything.

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10 hours ago, Eri said:

Yikes, I think the whole thing yesterday was planned. They were provoking Zelensky into making him look bad so they can brand the confrontation as "disrespect" for US support, shaping public sentiment to withdraw from the war and Ukraine altogether. Trump seems less interested in global hegemony and more in controlling the Americas, viewing that as vital for security, questioning NATO's relevance, etc.

The Daily Best shares some quotes from Russian media:

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Appearing on Friday’s breaking news broadcast on channel Solovyov Live, political scientist Alexander Voskoboinikov noted that Trump “simply lured [Zelensky] to the White House for this meeting. I can’t explain it any other way. What happened there was a pre-planned operation that was meant to show the whole world that Americans are getting out of this situation. At least, this is what they are demonstrating.”

Host Sergey Karnaukhov giddily described these events as “incredible,” his voice trembling with excitement. He said, “Zelensky got what he deserved. This is his fate. The trial of history started before our very eyes.” At the conclusion of the broadcast, the channel aired a new crowdfunded commercial that began broadcasting in late February. It started with the words, “We are one step away from victory. This is the moment of truth… It’s now or never.”

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One day earlier, Zelensky’s Oval Office ambush was predicted by State Duma member Oleg Morozov on 60 Minutes, a state TV show. Morozov said that the meeting would be a lesson in humiliation, designed to condition Zelensky to capitulate to the United States—and later to Russia. The lawmaker said that the Ukrainian president was flying to America “to sign an act of capitulation,” referring to the rare earth mineral deal Trump was determined to get as a “payback” for previous aid to Ukraine. Describing Trump as Zelensky’s “Daddy,” Morozov predicted, “They will rub his nose into everything, like a messy puppy… Then he will sign whatever he is told to sign.” Host Evgeny Popov chimed in, “But first, Daddy will flog him.”

And apparently, even though the White House said Tass wasn't in the press pool, the entire thing was live streamed in Russia.

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My parents act like it's really weird to meal plan.  Or to batch cook and freeze.  I think in their immigrant minds, things have to be cooked from scratch day of.  They both worked, but we were lucky to have grandparents living with us, so they were the ones who did the cooking.  I think that's one of the only reasons why I grew up eating fairly healthfully, with very little ultra processed foods.  We were mostly shopping in the perimeter before that was a term.  

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25 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

From Politicus March 1, 2025.

Vice President JD Vance thought that he was going to attack democracy and be able to go on a nice, quiet family ski vacation in Vermont.

He was very wrong.

Vance arrived in Vermont and was met by hundreds of protesters.

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Fox News reported that Vance was forced to flee to an undisclosed location after protesters met him at the ski resort, “ More protesters met the Vance family outside of the resort, and the family ultimately had to move to an undisclosed location.”

Coward. 

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29 minutes ago, Bastet said:

And apparently, even though the White House said Tass wasn't in the press pool, the entire thing was live streamed in Russia.

Putin, you thought you were buying Secretariat but you actually bought a worn out rocking horse.  If the goal was to make Zelensky look bad, well...not so much.  Trump and Vance on the other hand looked like buffoons.

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2 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

Have fun trying to defend all this, Trump supporters. Just know that no matter how you try to spin it you're wrong. On every level you could be wrong on and more.

At this point I am wondering if there is any line Trump could cross that would finally get Congress to say "no sir, not on our watch".  I can't think of anything.

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1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

When my son was young, I was off work by 5:00, then I picked him up at daycare, fought traffic on my way home and often stopped at the store on top of that. By the time we got home it was often 6:30. Then it was homework, bath and then dinner. We'd spend time reading to him and helping with homework when he was older. I did roast chicken on Sundays and it went for exactly two meals. I also made spaghetti sauce and chili and spread it out for dinners. We never ate fast food for dinner but I also had a husband to pick up a lot of the slack. I cannot imagine how single mothers do it.

The same way my single son does (no kids, but he works from 8 AM to 5 PM, has an hour commute home and then most often also does overtime for an hour or so before he gets to dinner): you do meal prep one weekend day/evening for the whole week. He makes a egg and cheese frittata with varying vegies and meats in a lasagna pan that he cuts up and has for a healthy breakfast every week day morning; he uses his slow cooker to make a curry or a stew or something that will be 3-4 dinners on week day evening, and then he will make sandwiches to take with for the weekday lunches if his firm is not supplying lunch (he works for a large law firm which keeps very long and intense hours). One or two evenings a week he pan fries some fish or broils a steak (10 minutes cooking time).

And a roasting chicken should not take more than about an hour or so at 375F or it will turn into leather. Seriously...I work at a food pantry and the working (many single) moms we feed love to get a whole uncooked chicken because it stretches so far. Single moms need to teach their children to cook not just for the nutritional value but because it teaches math, planning and collaboration.

Back to your regularly scheduled programming....😸

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5 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

Which is horrifying to think about on so many levels. 

Zelenksy's face just SCREAMS, "...this guy....". A picture is worth a thousand words, indeed. 

God, Trump even just looks like a massive idiot. 

I hope all the protesters out there continue to make Vance's vacation a living hell. I hope he, Trump, Musk, et al get absolutely no peace anywhere they go. 

Remember, the Italians got Mussolini and the French got Robespierre. If they can do it, so can we.

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19 hours ago, Is Everyone Gone said:

Meanwhile, the measles cases seem to be rising in Texas but RFK Jr is "not concerned." Just normal Friday things.

He has backtracked:
 

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Two days after initially downplaying the outbreak as “not unusual,” the US health secretary, Robert F Kennedy Jr, on Friday said he recognizes the serious impact of the ongoing measles epidemic in Texas – in which a child died recently – and said the government is providing resources, including protective vaccines.

“Ending the measles outbreak is a top priority for me and my extraordinary team,” Kennedy – an avowed anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist who for years has sown doubts about the safety and efficacy of vaccines – said in a post on X.

Kennedy said his federal Department of Health and Human Services would send Texas 2,000 doses of the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine – typically meant to be given to children in a series of two shots at 12 to 15 months old as well as between the ages of four and six years old – through its immunization program.

Speaking of backtracking:
 

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Also on Friday, Kennedy’s health and human services department announced plans to eliminate public participation in many of the agency’s policy decisions – a proposal that explicitly flouts a promise of “radical transparency” that he previously made to Congress while lawmakers considered confirming his appointment to the cabinet of Donald Trump’s second presidential administration.

The health and human services department has allowed such public comment on a range of agency actions for decades. It would mark a noted shift in the rulemaking process at the agency, which directs $3tn in healthcare spending and oversees the CDC, the Food and Drug Administration, the National Institutes of Health, and programs such as Medicare and Medicaid – which insure more than 140 million people.

 

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25 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

I swear it's like they are trying to kill us.  Starve us. Expose us to infectious diseases.  Take away cancer screenings.  And now not warn us about deadly weather.  

Given how much of their base lives in Tornado Alley, you'd think they'd realize the isk of putting that many people's lives in danger like that.

But that's just further proof that a) they're incapable of anything resembling intelligent thought, and b) how little they even care about their own base of supporters. Which should be a massive wake up call to said supporters, but of ocurse, it won't be. 

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57 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

But that's just further proof that a) they're incapable of anything resembling intelligent thought, and b) how little they even care about their own base of supporters. Which should be a massive wake up call to said supporters, but of ocurse, it won't be. 

They really don't care- my friends have been sharing more town hall dramas:

"Senator Marshall (R-KS) RUNS AWAY, fleeing his own town hall after being asked about DOGE firing Veterans."

https://bsky.app/profile/muellershewrote.bsky.social/post/3ljdjznddic2m 

"GOP Rep. Keith Self (who just won his district near Dallas with 62% of the vote) utters “the DOGE program” to his packed town hall"

https://bsky.app/profile/bgrueskin.bsky.social/post/3ljdxmj4xr226

The actions speak for themselves lol

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6 minutes ago, annzeepark914 said:

I saw the last few minutes of Bill Maher's show this evening. He was interviewing Chrystia Freeland. I liked her.  One thing she said was that politicians lose when they think they're smarter than the people (or something vey close to this). Does she have a chance of winning?

The Liberal leadership is basically between her and Mark Carney.  However, the Liberal Party with Mark has a better chance at beating the Conservative Party in the next federal election, according to a poll from a few weeks ago.

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1 minute ago, PRgal said:

The Liberal leadership is basically between her and Mark Carney.  However, the Liberal Party with Mark has a better chance at beating the Conservative Party in the next federal election, according to a poll from a few weeks ago.

Is this because it's tough for a woman to win (like in the US)? 

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15 minutes ago, annzeepark914 said:

Is this because it's tough for a woman to win (like in the US)? 

I think that is definitely part of it but also Freeland until very recently was a high ranking member of Trudeau's cabinet.  Liberals have a much better chance of winning if they can distance themselves from Trudeau.  The right wing smear machine here has spent the last 10 years ignoring every success and magnifying every misstep.  Sound familiar?

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21 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

Shut uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup already and go away, you weird ass creepy moron. 

How much does Twitter cost these days? Can Mark Cuban or someone else rich that is (a) a good person or at least (b) NOT EVIL, buy it from him? Y'know, tell him it will replace all of his Tesla losses or whatever.

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17 minutes ago, Dimity said:

So I just read that Navarro wants to "redraw" the border between the US and Canada.  Of course my first thought was Trump, a map and a sharpie.

But my second thought was Navarro has been paying attention to his "How to Become a Fascist Country in Two Months or Less" handbook.

Donald attracts the loons (& I don't mean those beautiful lake creatures). 

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2 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

Hi All, I just got back from a week long Caribbean cruise that passed through the Gulf of Mexico (yes, MEXICO) and before I catch up on a week's worth of posts I just thought I'd share with you a couple of faith restoring maps I saw on both my flight and cruise ship's tracking features:

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Good for them for not giving into changing the name! By the way we had a fantastic time and visited Mexico and other Caribbean destinations for the first time in our lives. It was really tough to have to come back to weather in the 30s Fahrenheit!

I'm happy you had a fun trip!

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