Chit-Chat: The Feels

[Dimity]

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Trump's Gaza proposal frustrates his new Arab
The people in this article, though, are fully aware of Trump's recent statements and some are still contorting themselves to give him the benefit of the doubt and justify their vote. It's discouraging to say the least.

@krankydoodle  (my original quote didn't work!!)

I know exactly what you mean.  Thanks for the link, I had been wondering how these people were dealing with Trumpian reality.  Delusionally I guess.

Anyone who has followed history knows there are always collaborators.  Always.  Until they aren't anymore.  Either because they are overthrown along with the regime they supported (ask the Vichy government how that worked out for   them) or because the regime turns on them - Trump accelerates history here, he has done in weeks what other regimes take years to do.  If anyone wasn't already aware of this unbelievably there were even a small number of Jews who supported Hitler in the early days. The very early days.

For me in terms of what is happening in the US it's the women supporting the GOP and especially the Trump regime that are giving me a sick feeling whenever I think about it.

Edited Sunday at 03:52 PM by Dimity

[nokat]

5 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Anyone who has followed history knows there are always collaborators.  Always.  Until they aren't anymore.  Either because they are overthrown along with the regime they supported (ask the Vichy government how that worked out for the them) or because the regime turns on them - Trump accelerates history here, he has done in weeks but other regimes take years to do.  If anyone wasn't already aware of this unbelievably there were even a small number of Jews who supported Hitler in the early days. The very early days.

For me in terms of what is happening in the US it's the women supporting the GOP and especially the Trump regime that are giving me a sick feeling whenever I think about it.

Why support a regime that takes away your rights? I do not get it.

[Yeah No]

8 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

Interesting article but the link didn't work for me. Here's a link that will work for everyone:

Link to Washington Post Article: Trump’s Gaza proposal frustrates his new Arab American supporters

After reading this article it brought home for me that a lot of people these days vote only based on whether or not they "like" a candidate, not after a careful consideration of them in any other way, such as their character or their policies. Or if they do consider policies they latch onto what they like and tune out the rest. And even if that person later does something they didn't anticipate that would normally be a deal breaker for a more reasoned person it is not for them and they still defend them. It still reminds me of that German immigrant woman in my father's senior center who came here after WWII. She once confided to my dad years ago that she still liked Hitler. Meanwhile my father was half Jewish. He just ignored the comment and told me he thought she was crazy.

[Spartan Girl]

15 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

37 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

Interesting article but the link didn't work for me. Here's a link that will work for everyone:

Link to Washington Post Article: Trump’s Gaza proposal frustrates his new Arab American supporters

 

I’m sorry, but I don’t have a smidgen of sympathy for these voters. None. They’re only upset about Trump going back on his “promises” about Gaza, but they were okay with everyone else he’s screwed over? And they wonder why so many of the Black community have turned on them…

 

[bluegirl147]

30 minutes ago, nokat said:

Why support a regime that takes away your rights? I do not get it.

Because they don't think it will happen to them.  And they like rights are being taken away from people they think deserve to have their rights taken away. Delusion and hate combined is not good for anyone.

4 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

I’m sorry, but I don’t have a smidgen of sympathy for these voters. None. They’re only upset about Trump going back on his “promises” about Gaza, but they were okay with everyone else he’s screwed over? And they wonder why so many of the Black community have turned on them…

 

It's true.  They didn't care about any other group (or our country as a whole) that would be harmed by a Trump administration. And it's not even like Trump promised to help the Palestinians. But they heard what they wanted to hear.

43 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

I suppose it's no coincidence and it's not lost on everyone here that Musk is a South African and suddenly Trump is trying to make it easier for white racists to come to this country. I wonder who gave him that idea?

No they don't want to come here.  (I don't mean all South Africans I'm just making a point) they want stay in their own country and even though they are the minority want to be in control.  Trump of all people should understand that.

[Yeah No]

15 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

I’m sorry, but I don’t have a smidgen of sympathy for these voters. None. They’re only upset about Trump going back on his “promises” about Gaza, but they were okay with everyone else he’s screwed over? And they wonder why so many of the Black community have turned on them…

I'm saddened that we have this extreme myopia and selfishness these days that many people are only thinking about themselves and what concerns them and not the big picture of the world in general and what's good for it as a whole. They have compromised social conscience. And miss the forest for the trees. 

[Spartan Girl]

And let perfection be the enemy of good.

But a lot of Black voters that live in Detroit think the Dearborn crowd had plenty of misogynist and anti-Black feelings that clouded their judgement. 

[tearknee]

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

@krankydoodle  (my original quote didn't work!!)

I know exactly what you mean.  Thanks for the link, I had been wondering how these people were dealing with Trumpian reality.  Delusionally I guess.

Anyone who has followed history knows there are always collaborators.  Always.  Until they aren't anymore.  Either because they are overthrown along with the regime they supported (ask the Vichy government how that worked out for   them) or because the regime turns on them - Trump accelerates history here, he has done in weeks what other regimes take years to do.  If anyone wasn't already aware of this unbelievably there were even a small number of Jews who supported Hitler in the early days. The very early days.

For me in terms of what is happening in the US it's the women supporting the GOP and especially the Trump regime that are giving me a sick feeling whenever I think about it.

See also: Queers for Palestine who are also being wilfully blind.

 

[Dimity]

47 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

I'm saddened that we have this extreme myopia and selfishness these days that many people are only thinking about themselves and what concerns them and not the big picture of the world in general and what's good for it as a whole. They have compromised social conscience. And miss the forest for the trees. 

I know this thread may not reflect how Americans on the whole feel about some of the Mob Boss's actions in the last few weeks.  I am curious how, generally, the US stopping foreign aid is being perceived.  Are people shamed and angry or is this considered a good move?

[tearknee]

"How many people in the general audience get weary of UNICEF and World Vision ads?"

 

... yes :'(

[suomi]

Interesting perspective. Damned if we do, damned if we don't.

The investigative psychiatrist Robert J Lifton once explained to me that Trump is a solipsist, as distinct from the narcissist that he’s often accused of being.

A narcissist, while deeply self-infatuated, nevertheless seeks the approval of others and will occasionally attempt seduction to get what he wants (I think of the French president, Emmanuel Macron). For Trump the solipsist, the only point of reference is himself, so he makes no attempt even at faking interest in other people, since he can’t really see them from his self-centered position.

One can’t just ignore Trump’s blathering, but like parents dealing with an ornery child, editors, reporters and columnists need to temper reprimands and raised voices with self-restraint, calmness and even studied indifference. Humor, sarcasm and ridicule can be useful tools, though as we learned from Barack Obama’s famous roast of Trump in 2011, they can also motivate the target to run for president.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/08/donald-trump-media-coverage

[bluegirl147]

30 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I know this thread may not reflect how Americans on the whole feel about some of the Mob Boss's actions in the last few weeks.  I am curious how, generally, the US stopping foreign aid is being perceived.  Are people shamed and angry or is this considered a good move?

I think for the people cheering foreign aid being cut or outright rescinded they think somehow someway that money will go to them. It will not.  It will be used to justify the massive tax cuts to corporations and the rich. 

1 hour ago, Yeah No said:

I'm saddened that we have this extreme myopia and selfishness these days that many people are only thinking about themselves and what concerns them and not the big picture of the world in general and what's good for it as a whole. They have compromised social conscience. And miss the forest for the trees. 

As with most things nowadays I blame social media.  It has either made people selfish and self centered or simply highlighted the selfishness and self centered tendencies that were always there.  

[peacheslatour]

6 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

I think for the people cheering foreign aid being cut or outright rescinded they think somehow someway that money will go to them. It will not.  It will be used to justify the massive tax cuts to corporations and the rich. 

As with most things nowadays I blame social media.  It has either made people selfish and self centered or simply highlighted the selfishness and self centered tendencies that were always there.  

The "Christians" that voted for this are reading from some other Bible than the one I was raised on. I don't remember Jesus saying "For lo, we saw the people were suffering and we said fuck those guys."

[graybrown bird]

52 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I know this thread may not reflect how Americans on the whole feel about some of the Mob Boss's actions in the last few weeks.  I am curious how, generally, the US stopping foreign aid is being perceived.  Are people shamed and angry or is this considered a good move?

It is outrageous.  In so many places around the.world, USAID programs save lives and offer hope.  If all those US efforts for nutrition, education and health care end, the only thing people in many countries will know of America is its military.  Ending USAID is criminally and tragically short-sighted.

Edited Sunday at 05:55 PM by graybrown bird
Typo

[bluegirl147]

3 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

The "Christians" that voted for this are reading from some other Bible than the one I was raised on. I don't remember Jesus saying "For lo, we saw the people were suffering and we said fuck those guys."

My apologies to any Christians here but when I hear someone say "as a Christian" I cringe because I expect to hear something that most certainly is not Christian in the traditional sense.

[kittykat]

1 hour ago, Yeah No said:

I'm saddened that we have this extreme myopia and selfishness these days that many people are only thinking about themselves and what concerns them and not the big picture of the world in general and what's good for it as a whole. They have compromised social conscience. And miss the forest for the trees. 

Honestly one of the main differences between voting Democrat vs. voting Republican is that I've found most people who voted Democrat will ask how a candidates policies will benefit the greater good.  Whereas conservatives more likely will ask how are your policies going to benefit me.

[Blergh]

OK, I've been thinking about this for some time but I think this needs to be said. For those who have loved ones struggling with addiction genuinely trying to get clean and seek help, I apologize in advance if the following upsets you.

However, I have to say that I do not consider President Biden's surviving son Hunter to have been a pure victim or a total scapegoat of #45 and his minions. From his onetime wife's account as well as his dubious  interactions with his brother's bereft widow,etc., it appears to me that Hunter Biden had been using his status as a survivor of the tragic car crash that took the lives of his mother and sister as a means to tug on his father's heartstrings to manipulate his father. While overall,  I  have supported President Biden's policies and believe that he DID do  a great deal of good despite unwarranted criticism and flak in very trying circumstances, I think he truly has  had a blind spot re his son in never wanting to see him as anything but that little boy who survived that horrific crash and as such treated Hunter as though he could do no wrong. Alas, as most folks who are treated that way (as I've seen re extended family and others), it appears that Hunter used that as a license to DO wrong not just to his bereaved father but his wife, bereaved sister-in-law and many others down the decades. Oh, and even when knowing that #45 and his minions were watching him like buzzards, he STILL kept doing foolish and selfish things (e.g. evidently trying to smuggle cocaine into Camp David of all places) COUNTING on his father to bail him out!  IMO, he was guilty as charged and deserved the initial sentence - and that's putting aside what he seemed to put every single one of his loved ones through!

However, inasmuch as #45 seemed bound and determined to wound Hunter JUST to crush President Biden somewhat like shooting cannons to swat at a flea, I [reluctantly] understand WHY President Biden pardoned Hunter even though on a strictly legal  level, IMO he didn't deserve it. Also, via doing so, this may deflect that focus of #45 and his minions to go after WORTHY folks that President Biden pardoned [up to and including the January 6th Committee who weren't just doing their jobs but were doing their DUTY to our nation and all it stands for- regardless of how others failed to support them to say the least]. Maybe.

Alas, even WITH President Biden going the extra hundred miles to spare the [IMO] undeserving Hunter from facing the [IMO] needlessly vindictiveness of #45,etc., I'm not entirely confident that Hunter will use this chance to truly make a fresh, clean start despite his claims to want to do so. Folks can change for the better but only if they truly want to and its foolish to count on them having done so as though they HAVE changed for the better without actual proof via actions regardless of words.

 

[bluegirl147]

33 minutes ago, kittykat said:

Honestly one of the main differences between voting Democrat vs. voting Republican is that I've found most people who voted Democrat will ask how a candidates policies will benefit the greater good.  Whereas conservatives more likely will ask how are your policies going to benefit me.

I've said this for years.  Democrats want to make the world a better place for everyone.   Republicans want to make the world a better place for them.  And if other people are hurt in the process all the better.

[lookeyloo]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

My apologies to any Christians here but when I hear someone say "as a Christian" I cringe because I expect to hear something that most certainly is not Christian in the traditional sense.

OMG yes.  I am in a quilting group.  Half like me and half "as a Christian" who espouse anything but Christian values.  I go and stay until that talk starts and then pack up my stuff and leave.  I wish I never knew what those folks think, and why they have to say it is beyond me.  Just sew and talk about fabric please.

[Cementhead]

It's been something like 10 years since she thankfully disappeared off of my televison screen but to this day, whenever I hear the words "as a Christian" uttered by anyone, this face unfortunately shows up in my head:

And to think of all the people who have married their toasters since she's been gone.

 

[bluegirl147]

37 minutes ago, Cementhead said:

It's been something like 10 years since she thankfully disappeared off of my televison screen but to this day, whenever I hear the words "as a Christian" uttered by anyone, this face unfortunately shows up in my head:

And to think of all the people who have married their toasters since she's been gone.

 

Yep she was who I had in mind.  She was such an awful person.  Another lowlight was when they were talking about uninsured children and she with such snark in her voice asked where are the parents and with exasperation a cohost said they are poor Elisabeth. But sure she was a good Christian.

[PRgal]

I cringe at the "Christian" comments too.  But I know that when they say "Christian," they mean a CERTAIN TYPE of Christian.  And any denomination outside of that is "NOT Christian" according to them, not just Catholics.  So yes, old line denominations are "bad" according to them.  I often cringe when people talk about minority groups too.  I'm always unsure whether they mean people like me or not (e.g. when they say that there aren't enough minority/BIPOC (a acronym I HATE) doctors.  Errrr...there certainly are A LOT of Asian (East and South) doctors out there.  They're NOT disadvantaged as MDs as a whole (though some specializations might need a boost (e.g. psychiatry). But that's not what they're talking about)).  

[graybrown bird]

I refuse to let right-wing bigots commandeer the word  "Christian" for themselves, just as I refuse to let them own the U.S. flag.  Their saying they are Christian doesn't make them so, when their actions and words tell us plainly they are not.

[DXD526]

Christianity isn't really definable, though. It's whatever people who call themselves 'Christians' say it is. These days, it means this extremely regressive strain that mostly acts in predictably selfish, and hateful, ways. That's what Christian currently means. It's too bad, but it's reality.

[Eri]

2 hours ago, graybrown bird said:

It is outrageous.  In so many places around the.world, USAID programs save lives and offer hope.  If all those US efforts for nutrition, education and health care end, the only thing people in many countries will know of America is its military.  Ending USAID is criminally and tragically short-sighted.

Not to mention how it does reputational damage to the U.S for the long term. As @suomi had eloquently emphasized in an earlier post, it also means that we are forming a void that bad actors can then fill, certainly other countries who do not play well with us and who we have rivalry with. They're going to hand China (and to some extent Russia) the world on a silver platter when they'll be ready to be the ones lending and supplying to everyone else in the world (i.e. Oil, minerals, lumber, food, weapons, you name it). They've already been increasing their presence in Africa to strengthen "relations" (in exchange for draining them of their resources). It's a dangerous slope.

The interesting thing is China, like the European Union and other countries and their responses to the trade war might hit the base of Trump's supporters, if they aren't already. The tariffs that would actually affect parts of our economy will target red states like the Dakotas, Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky, Alabama, West Virginia with energy, gas, petroleum, lumber, bourbon, soybeans etc. So you're also looking at, tariffs on motor homes, agricultural machinery, etc. the smelter of titanium that's in Quebec, which we need to make submarines other sorts of military equipment. That's gonna have to shut down or at least be significantly curtailed if there are these tariffs.

Reporting from Politico was saying this week how some state politicians say they're getting calls from farmers in Kentucky angry about this. These are very strategic choices by the Chinese government to affect the prices of apparel, electronics, and toys for US consumers. 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/some-republicans-congress-worry-about-trump-tariffs-toll-their-home-states-2025-01-31/

Is it any wonder Trump agreed to a thirty day pause on tariffs behind Canada and Mexico? lol

I'm curious to hear from people in red states about how these Trump policies are affecting their local and state politicians responses' to the public.

[Bastet]

13 hours ago, ChiCricket said:

This app has trending news, and also shows how evenly each news story is being reported.

 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.checkitt

PS just ignore them asking you to sign up for premium.. you can read plenty on just the free version.

And you don't have to download an app; I don't have a smartphone, so I don't use apps, but I've been checking that website for a couple of years now.  I first heard about it from the "Liberal Redneck" guy on YouTube.

[bluegirl147]

At some point are adversaries realized all they had to do is sit back and we will destroy ourselves.

[anony.miss]

4 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

the people cheering foreign aid being cut or outright rescinded they think somehow someway that money will go to them.

And the people cheering the gutting of USAID are also apparently completely ignorant as to how USAID programs benefit the American economy:

 

 

More at WAPO:

https://archive.ph/xFjG5

Edited Sunday at 09:41 PM by anony.miss

[Dimity]

46 minutes ago, anony.miss said:

And the people cheering the gutting of USAID are also apparently completely ignorant as to how USAID programs benefit the American economy:

And they are so so stupid.  I've been seeing memes today saying that foreign aid is just another term for money laundering.  This coupled with the memes I've been seeing praising Musk for his charitable foundation (did a quick google and yeah, not so much) and it's pretty clear the bots have been very busy today.

Edited Sunday at 10:12 PM by Dimity

[Dimity]

Oh and according to some posts I saw today Musk has purchased some ad spots during the Super Bowl to reveal all the corruption he and his Teen Team have found.  I suspect this is about as true as the memes I see talking about how Beyonce has had to return all her Grammies ...

[Annber03]

8 hours ago, krankydoodle said:

Trump's Gaza proposal frustrates his new Arab American supporters (Washington Post gift link)

I asked another poster here about where they got their news from because there have been times when I've read comments that makes it feel like we're living in different realities. The people in this article, though, are fully aware of Trump's recent statements and some are still contorting themselves to give him the benefit of the doubt and justify their vote. It's discouraging to say the least.

Again, people. We literally warned you about this. At what point and time has Trump ever given any kind of indication he gives a shit about the people in the Middle East? Maybe try, I dunno, listening to those who sounded the alarm next time? 

[Yeah No]

2 hours ago, DXD526 said:

Christianity isn't really definable, though. It's whatever people who call themselves 'Christians' say it is. These days, it means this extremely regressive strain that mostly acts in predictably selfish, and hateful, ways. That's what Christian currently means. It's too bad, but it's reality.

Actually, no, Christianity is not what anyone says it is if that means turning your back on the poor and showing no charity in your heart for people less fortunate than you, not just yourself or groups of people you think are "more deserving" than others. What these self-professed "Christians" are doing is in direct conflict with Jesus's actions and quotes as written in the Bible so even if they're fundamentalists who interpret the Bible and all its stories and quotes literally, they're contradicting the word of Christ and their own beliefs with this. So it's not "what Christianity currently means". It's only what CORRUPT, HYPOCRITICAL people who are Christians in name only mean.

[kittykat]

2 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

Yep she was who I had in mind.  She was such an awful person.  Another lowlight was when they were talking about uninsured children and she with such snark in her voice asked where are the parents and with exasperation a cohost said they are poor Elisabeth. But sure she was a good Christian.

And on the other end her fellow Survivor tribe member Nick Brown just got elected to Washington state Attorney General and is standing up to Trump.

Edited Sunday at 10:29 PM by kittykat

[Annber03]

4 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

My apologies to any Christians here but when I hear someone say "as a Christian" I cringe because I expect to hear something that most certainly is not Christian in the traditional sense.

Yeeeeeeeeeeep. I have watched enough true crime shows to immediately be on alert the moment somebody makes a big to do about how oh-so-Christian they are. 

And then of course there were all the GOP members within the past decades who went on and on about how they were all about "Christian family values" while simultaneously doing a whole lot of things that would not align with what they claim were true Christian family values. 

The Christians I trust and respect the most are the ones who don't make a big show about it, who just quietly go about their day and show their faith in subtle, thoughtful ways, without needing to draw attention to themselves over it. If I recall rightly, doesn't Jesus himself even call out Christians who get all show-off with their faith? 

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

At some point are adversaries realized all they had to do is sit back and we will destroy ourselves.

Yet again, I must quote Rod Serling:

Quote

The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices ... to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill ... and suspicion can destroy ... and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own—for the children and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is ... that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone.

From "Monsters are Due on Maple Street", a fantastic episode that remains as heartbreakingly relevant as ever. 

Edited Sunday at 10:44 PM by Annber03

[Yeah No]

5 hours ago, Dimity said:

I know this thread may not reflect how Americans on the whole feel about some of the Mob Boss's actions in the last few weeks.  I am curious how, generally, the US stopping foreign aid is being perceived.  Are people shamed and angry or is this considered a good move?

As we might expect, opinion on that is divided on party lines. More Republicans want less foreign aid and more Democrats either want it to stay the same or increase. I don't remember foreign aid being a big issue with Republicans until the last decade or so. It was always looked at as a bipartisan issue AFAIK. I think this issue became yet another one to add to the pile of grievances Trump wanted white Americans to latch onto by framing it that money was "being taken out of their mouths" and being given to non-Americans, especially brown ones. Meanwhile as was said above, it's only so that money can instead go into the pockets of the very rich in the way of tax cuts, not the pockets of average "Joe" that Trump has duped into thinking that he has their best interests at heart.

This article from "goodauthority.org" has the results of an interesting survey done in December 2024 on this subject. As you might expect, the only group that favors cutting back foreign aid to any great degree are Republicans. It also shows results by age, race, gender and level of education.

https://goodauthority.org/news/democrats-and-republicans-really-disagree-on-us-foreign-aid/

 

[Dimity]

I am hoping Trump gets booed (ideally egged) at the game.  Too much to hope for?

[Lantern7]

4 hours ago, Cementhead said:

It's been something like 10 years since she thankfully disappeared off of my televison screen but to this day, whenever I hear the words "as a Christian" uttered by anyone, this face unfortunately shows up in my head:

And to think of all the people who have married their toasters since she's been gone.

*sigh* And she was so nice on Survivor. WTF happened with her that made her like that?

50 minutes ago, kittykat said:

And on the other end her fellow Survivor tribe member Nick Brown just got elected to Washington state Attorney General and is standing up to Trump.

Neat. Remember, if he doesn’t win individual immunity, the Colby/Keith/Tina bloc doesn’t vote out Jerri. Great times!

18 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I am hoping Trump gets booed (ideally egged) at the game.  Too much to hope for?

He’s there? What, did he and Elon hear about a low-income children’s center that hasn’t been bulldozed yet?

[Dimity]

12 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

and allowed Trump staff to fly on Trump Force One – much to their anger.

This shows why you always need to read the fine print at the very bottom of any employment contract: "must be prepared to die for the Fuhrer".

[tearknee]

Trump's callousness towards his staffers reminds me of the old gag about such an action: "Not my problem - you're the ones who are going to be dying!"

[peacheslatour]

1 minute ago, Lantern7 said:

Dubya never had a bunker? Really?!? C’mon, you gotta figure Cheney had the bunker to top all bunkers.

There's a bunker under DC somewhere. Trump went there to hide from protesters, before he had them gassed for a photo op.

[anony.miss]

51 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I am hoping Trump gets booed (ideally egged)

....Nobody can afford the eggs ; )

 

 

[peacheslatour]

3 minutes ago, anony.miss said:

....Nobody can afford the eggs ; )

 

 

Zing!

[Lantern7]

3 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

There's a bunker under DC somewhere. Trump went there to hide from protesters, before he had them gassed for a photo op.

You mean when he held the Bible in a weird way, as if doing that was as effective as Obi-Wan claiming the high ground on Anakin?

[tearknee]

24 minutes ago, Dimity said:

This shows why you always need to read the fine print at the very bottom of any employment contract: "must be prepared to die for the Fuhrer".

Sometimes gallows humor is the sanest response to insane situations.

[Dimity]

21 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

There's a bunker under DC somewhere. Trump went there to hide from protesters, before he had them gassed for a photo op.

All I can think of is George Constanza pushing everyone out of his way when the fire alarm went off.  That's Trump the Cowardly.

[Lantern7]

7 minutes ago, Dimity said:

All I can think of is George Constanza pushing everyone out of his way when the fire alarm went off.  That's Trump the Cowardly.

Ironically, the clown saved everyone that day.

[kittykat]

"How do you live with yourself?"

"It's not easy."

IIRC Jon Favreau played the clown.

Edited Monday at 12:35 AM by kittykat

[bluegirl147]

18 minutes ago, Dimity said:

All I can think of is George Constanza pushing everyone out of his way when the fire alarm went off.  That's Trump the Cowardly.

Trump would use a baby as a human shield. He is that cowardly

[Trini]

1 hour ago, Lantern7 said:

You mean when he held the Bible in a weird way, as if doing that was as effective as Obi-Wan claiming the high ground on Anakin?

Uuughh.  That Man doesn't even know how to PRETEND to be Christian.

 

[peacheslatour]

39 minutes ago, Trini said:

Uuughh.  That Man doesn't even know how to PRETEND to be Christian.

 

He believes in anything that lines his pockets.