Chit-Chat: The Feels

[PRgal]

Nope, no one wants tariffs.  Not even influential corporations.   

16 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Trump has spent most of his adult life holding grudges against anyone who didn't do what he said or didn't  show him the respect he thought he deserved.  He can't get over anything he considers a slight.  He still complains about the 2020 election being "stolen" from him.  I think the anger and resentment he feels brings him more pleasure than anything else.  

 

I kind of get it.  I grew up thinking no one liked me/how I felt.  Even now.  My dad (in particular) doesn't seem to "get" my writing (though he was very proud of my publishing a kids' book).  I'm 99% betting that he'll want me to take down or issue an apology for a Substack post that went up today.  

[bluegirl147]

9 minutes ago, tres bien said:

His crazy MAGAs in house want to change the constitution so he can for a third term. Well so can President Obama but President Obama isn’t a megalomaniac 

The Republican in the House who introduced legislation to allow Trump to run purposely worded it as the President could only run for a third term if they hadn't served two consecutive terms. Guess he didn't want Presidents Clinton or Obama running again. 

[Dimity]

18 minutes ago, tres bien said:

He still “insults” President Obama by him using his middle name because he felt mocked at the WH Correspondents dinner in 2012

If I didn't already loathe him for every horrible thing he has ever done and is planning to do I'd loathe him for the way he has normalized insulting people as if this is the way adults should behave.  

Having nasty nicknames for everyone he dislikes, calling any woman who displeases him (and that's a LOT of women) nasty, and even calling fellow world leaders by childish crass names that would get most children sent to their rooms. 

Loathesome.

[Yeah No]

1 minute ago, Dimity said:

If I didn't already loathe him for every horrible thing he has ever done and is planning to do I'd loathe him for the way he has normalized insulting people as if this is the way adults should behave.  

Having nasty nicknames for everyone he dislikes, calling any woman who displeases him (and that's a LOT of women) nasty, and even calling fellow world leaders by childish crass names that would get most children sent to their rooms. 

Loathesome.

Exactly. And children are watching this and thinking this must be normal, acceptable behavior because after all, the president does it and the American people voted him in. I'll never forget the way he mocked handicapped people. Truly disgusting.  And people will ignore all of that for a few things he said he would do that they think would benefit them? I remember when my husband was grappling with his feelings about Trump. I used to tell him that there were saner more decent Republicans out there (at least some of the ones in the past) and he didn't have to support Trump just because he was the Republican candidate. Obviously he saw that for himself after a while. And now he considers himself a true Independent. He is disgusted with the way the party has sold any soul it had left to this guy.

[tres bien]

24 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

The Republican in the House who introduced legislation to allow Trump to run purposely worded it as the President could only run for a third term if they hadn't served two consecutive terms. Guess he didn't want Presidents Clinton or Obama running again. 

I swear to God these people have Stockholm syndrome. There’s no other way for me to understand it

[Ohiopirate02]

1 minute ago, tres bien said:

I swear to God these people have Stockholm syndrome. There’s no other way for me to understand it

It's not that. They know that Trump is the glue holding the modern day Republican Party together and that without him their party is in shambles.

[bluegirl147]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/casey-desantis-considers-running-florida-governor-push-top-donors-rcna191075

But Hillary Clinton was unqualified for political office because she was just a political wife. 

30 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

It's not that. They know that Trump is the glue holding the modern day Republican Party together and that without him their party is in shambles.

And I'm so looking forward to that day.

[Dimity]

In the "now I've seen everything" department some fool has a post going viral where they show people's small pox vaccination scar and say "if you have one of these you grew up in a commie country".  Sigh.  Are people really this stupid?  Yeah...

[bluegirl147]

The small pox vaccine is an example of vaccinations doing as intended.   Eradicating a disease. Until the thawing of the permafrost.

You wanna bet the original poster is too young to have a small pox vaccine?

[Anela]

9 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Actions speak louder than words. Many of us have known DJT from his early days (pre-Marla). We're really not interested in his personal relationships. Humans aren't perfect...especially in their personal relationships. That has nothing to do with how we treat our family and friends. 

Let's face it, humans tend to prioritize what's most important to them. I don't view DJT as evil because he's piggish in his relationships. And contrary to popular belief (here), he WILL do right by all of us. Did you see all those adorable young women who applauded the fact that they can now compete fair and square in their chosen sport? Give him time...he'll do the right thing.

He won't do right by all of us. He doesn't care about any of us. 

I don't think anyone believed he was elected because of the price of eggs. 

[Lugal]

8 hours ago, tessaray said:

Trump is 78 years old. He's never been interested in doing the right thing before - why would he start now? 

Trump has never faced serious consequences for anything he's done in his entire life.  It's really pretty amazing to think about that.  He's gotten away with everything for nearly 8 decades!  How many of us have been that lucky?

8 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

I saw none of that. Those girls were ecstatic that they'll be able to compete with their own (bio) gender. It has nothing to do with discrimination. If you're a bio woman, do you really want to get into a boxing ring with a bio man?? You'd be knocked on your ass in about 3 minutes. That's not hate, it's reality!

I have not followed the transwomen in women's sports issue too closely, so I'll try to stick to generalities.  But I think there's an underlying sexism in the idea that a man will always beat a woman in any given sport.  While I have seen studies that show that transwomen can retain a higher level of strength, for the first 3 years after transitioning at least, strength is not the sole determining factor in most sports (not even in boxing, really).  If I were to fight Ronda Rousey, I wouldn't stand a chance despite being a man with a good six inches and probably sixty pounds on her.

[Dimity]

9 minutes ago, Anela said:

don't think anyone believed he was elected because of the price of eggs. 

In the if you don't laugh you'll cry department I am finding it somewhat amusing the way Trumpers are now trying to turn the tables and are acting like Harris supporters actually expected grocery prices to fall on January 20th when President Musk Trump took over. 

The Internet is forever folks, all your posts and memes and letters to the editor are all out there and unless Elon can figure out a way to scrub it all we've got the receipts.  

But in the grand scheme of all awful things that are happening right now this one is pretty low on the outrage meter for most of us.

[nokat]

2 hours ago, Dimity said:

In the "now I've seen everything" department some fool has a post going viral where they show people's small pox vaccination scar and say "if you have one of these you grew up in a commie country".  Sigh.  Are people really this stupid?  Yeah...

I would proudly show off mine. But it was for a lot of other immunizations. Polio I took orally, and saw the effects of it first hand. I mean the after effect.

Edited February 7 by nokat

[bluegirl147]

45 minutes ago, Anela said:

He won't do right by all of us. He doesn't care about any of us. 

I don't think anyone believed he was elected because of the price of eggs. 

That was the reason a lot of voters told themselves so they wouldn't have to admit even to themselves that they didn't care about marginalized people and if Trump was going to make their lives worse so be it.

40 minutes ago, Lugal said:

Trump has never faced serious consequences for anything he's done in his entire life.  It's really pretty amazing to think about that.  He's gotten away with everything for nearly 8 decades!  How many of us have been that lucky?

 

If anyone made a deal with the devil it was him.  Until the day he dies I will be hoping for a massive amount of karma to be dumped on his head.

38 minutes ago, Dimity said:

In the if you don't laugh you'll cry department I am finding it somewhat amusing the way Trumpers are now trying to turn the tables and are acting like Harris supporters actually expected grocery prices to fall on January 20th when President Musk Trump took over. 

The Internet is forever folks, all your posts and memes and letters to the editor are all out there and unless Elon can figure out a way to scrub it all we've got the receipts.  

But in the grand scheme of all awful things that are happening right now this one is pretty low on the outrage meter for most of us.

I fully expect within five years nobody will admit to having voted for him

 

[Eri]

21 minutes ago, Lugal said:

I have not followed the transwomen in women's sports issue too closely, so I'll try to stick to generalities.  But I think there's an underlying sexism in the idea that a man will always beat a woman in any given sport.  While I have seen studies that show that transwomen can retain a higher level of strength, for the first 3 years after transitioning at least, strength is not the sole determining factor in most sports (not even in boxing, really).  If I were to fight Ronda Rousey, I wouldn't stand a chance despite being a man with a good six inches and probably sixty pounds on her.

Homophobia/transphobia in itself is a hatred of the feminine. 

Someone I know had shared how they encountered a guy wearing a hooded sweatshirt that said "save women sports." What real motivation is there for such behavior unless it might have to do with being a perverted adult who feels like they can't enjoy watching volleyball if the woman was trans? Florida (thanks to DeSantis) is especially bad about this over the last few years. One of the most controversial proposals last year, was when the Florida High School Athletic Association (FHSAA) was weighing on mandating the tracking of menstrual cycles for female athletes in order to compete in competitive sports. This was naturally met with massive pushback by parents and they rejected the proposal.

I always thought it was puzzling (and weird) that conservatives focus so much on high school sports, but when you consider the perverted predator theory, it starts to make more sense. It seems they project onto trans people their own predatory behavior because they just think "well I'm a predator toward women and girls, so I guess trans people as a whole are the same."

Considering the background of some of these individuals (*cough*Gaetz*cough*), I can't say I'm particularly surprised.

[Dimity]

So Trump had the CIA fire agents and they sent their names in an unsecured email. 

I am  awaiting the cries of outrage from Republicans over this massive breach of security that endangered lives.

 

 

[bluegirl147]

20 minutes ago, Dimity said:

So Trump had the CIA fire agents and they sent their names in an unsecured email. 

I am  awaiting the cries of outrage from Republicans over this massive breach of security that endangered lives.

 

 

They won't say a word.  Just like they stayed silent when agent Valerie Plame was outed as revenge against her husband Joe Wilson who questioned the Bush's administration's claim lie that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

[Ohiopirate02]

28 minutes ago, Eri said:

Homophobia/transphobia in itself is a hatred of the feminine. 

Someone I know had shared how they encountered a guy wearing a hooded sweatshirt that said "save women sports." What real motivation is there for such behavior unless it might have to do with being a perverted adult who feels like they can't enjoy watching volleyball if the woman was trans? Florida (thanks to DeSantis) is especially bad about this over the last few years. One of the most controversial proposals last year, was when the Florida High School Athletic Association (FHSAA) was weighing on mandating the tracking of menstrual cycles for female athletes in order to compete in competitive sports. This was naturally met with massive pushback by parents and they rejected the proposal.

I always thought it was puzzling (and weird) that conservatives focus so much on high school sports, but when you consider the perverted predator theory, it starts to make more sense. It seems they project onto trans people their own predatory behavior because they just think "well I'm a predator toward women and girls, so I guess trans people as a whole are the same."

Considering the background of some of these individuals (*cough*Gaetz*cough*), I can't say I'm particularly surprised.

There's also a group of men who legitimately think they could have been a contender if they were a woman. Because women and girls are weaker therefore their sports are easier. So, they think that middle of the pack male athletes are transitioning solely for the ability to beat a bunch of girls or women. This is the guy who thinks he could beat Serena Williams in her prime. I find this line of reasoning laughable. No man is going to transition to get a cut of the pie when it comes to women's sports. Not in a country where the World Cup winning women's soccer team makes less money than the men's team that can barely qualify. Athletes like Katie Ledecki and Caitlyn Clark are making nowhere near what Michael Phelps or Steph Curry in endorsement deals. I'm also AFAB and have played basketball with both sexes. I would rather play guys. Girls are vicious.

[peacheslatour]

President Musk.

[Dimity]

46 minutes ago, Eri said:

I always thought it was puzzling (and weird) that conservatives focus so much on high school sports, but when you consider the perverted predator theory, it starts to make more sense. It seems they project onto trans people their own predatory behavior because they just think "well I'm a predator toward women and girls, so I guess trans people as a whole are the same."

Not just sports.  The obsession with the idea that men are putting on a dress in order to attack women in washrooms is just bizarre.  First and most obviously you don't have to be trans to put on a dress and go into a woman's washroom.  You don't even have to put on the dress.  As I said, bizarre.

[bluegirl147]

1 minute ago, Dimity said:

Not just sports.  The obsession with the idea that men are putting on a dress in order to attack women in washrooms is just bizarre.  First and most obviously you don't have to be trans to put on a dress and go into a woman's washroom.  You don't even have to put on the dress.  As I said, bizarre.

Funny how we never hear them outraged over actual sexual predators like Brock Turner. But he was a white straight guy so they didn't care.

[PRgal]

13 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

  Girls are vicious.

In my little fantasy world, Chrystia Freeland wins the Liberal Party leadership race, becomes PM and collaborates with Claudia Sheinbaum to deal with You Know Who mean elementary girl style.  After all, he's just another elementary (oh, wait a minute, PRESCHOOL) school boy who acts like a bully!!!!!  Brings back memories of my elementary school days.  And no, he can't have cookies for carrot or celery sticks!!!  That's just crazy.

[Dimity]

15 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

President Musk.

You don't have to be the Great Carnac to predict how Trump is going to react to this!

[bluegirl147]

31 minutes ago, Dimity said:

You don't have to be the Great Carnac to predict how Trump is going to react to this!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-time-magazine-musk-cover-response-b2694357.html

I predict he will be throwing ketchup tonight.

 

[peacheslatour]

41 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Funny how we never hear them outraged over actual sexual predators like Brock Turner. But he was a white straight guy so they didn't care.

You mean convicted rapist Brock Allen Turner? That Brock Allen Turner? The Brock Allen Turner who was convicted of rape and saw no prison time for, as his father put it "20 minutes of action"?

[EtheltoTillie]

I am late to reply here, but I want to remind everyone that it wasn't DJT who said "best sex I ever had," it was supposedly Marla Maples saying it about him!

See cover of New York Post in this wikipedia link. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_Sex_I've_Ever_Had

 

 

Edited February 7 by EtheltoTillie

[peacheslatour]

6 minutes ago, EtheltoTillie said:

I am late to reply here, but I want to remind everyone that it wasn't DJT who said "best sex I ever had," it was supposedly Marla Maples saying it about him!

See cover of New York Post in this wikipedia link. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_Sex_I've_Ever_Had

 

 

Yeah, I think I'll take Stormy's word for it.

[isalicat]

8 hours ago, PRgal said:

On the trans issue:  I went to school with someone who transitioned to male as an adult.  I’m pretty sure he’d be uncomfortable playing on a women’s team or be forced to use the women’s bathroom. 

I'm pretty sure no one is being *forced* to play on any team...and the solution to the bathroom problem is one that is being implemented everywhere I go these days: unisex bathrooms (which is more fair to women anyway as it eliminates those endless lines we used to stand in). I don't want anyone I don't know with a penis in my bathroom or dressing/changing room so if that makes someone uncomfortable, I am sorry about that but my safety/privacy is important to me.

[PRgal]

3 minutes ago, isalicat said:

I'm pretty sure no one is being *forced* to play on any team...and the solution to the bathroom problem is one that is being implemented everywhere I go these days: unisex bathrooms (which is more fair to women anyway as it eliminates those endless lines we used to stand in). I don't want anyone I don't know with a penis in my bathroom or dressing/changing room so if that makes someone uncomfortable, I am sorry about that but my safety/privacy is important to me.

I’ve only come across a handful of places where all gender bathrooms had multiple stalls.  Every other one was single use.  As in a toilet and a sink with a door. 

[ebk57]

This hits very, very close to home... This will not make the "stars" who won't be in the same place as him be in the same place as him. He can't make them like him.

And it will only hurt those who want to see theater, hear music, or earn a living doing those things - which I'm sure doesn't bother him at all.  I'm glad there's nothing coming up this season that I was planning on going to see.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-takes-over-kennedy-center-200205406.html

He's such a spoiled child.

 

[tres bien]

12 minutes ago, ebk57 said:

This hits very, very close to home... This will not make the "stars" who won't be in the same place as him be in the same place as him. He can't make them like him.

And it will only hurt those who want to see theater, hear music, or earn a living doing those things - which I'm sure doesn't bother him at all.  I'm glad there's nothing coming up this season that I was planning on going to see.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-takes-over-kennedy-center-200205406.html

He's such a spoiled child.

 

I saw that story earlier today right after I saw that he’s banning paper straws. It’s a never ending shit show and it’s not even three weeks in

It’s impossible to keep up with the people he’s firing, the departments he’s eliminating and the crazy all out revenge tour he’s on

His voters voted for change. They felt the government wasn’t doing anything for them. Guess they wanted everything burned down. We’ll find out soon enough if this was the change they wanted when the changes start  effecting their lives

 

Edited February 7 by tres bien

[ProudMary]

27 minutes ago, isalicat said:

 I don't want anyone I don't know with a penis in my bathroom or dressing/changing room so if that makes someone uncomfortable, I am sorry about that but my safety/privacy is important to me.

As public ladies' rooms have only private, individual stalls, it's likely that at some point, without realizing it, you actually have been in a public bathroom with a stranger who has a penis.

Live and let live. That's just my opinion and the way I live my life.

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, tres bien said:

I saw that story earlier today right after I saw that he’s banning paper straws.

Thank god he's on top of things. Jeeze louise you can't make this crap up!

[peacheslatour]

13 minutes ago, ebk57 said:

This hits very, very close to home... This will not make the "stars" who won't be in the same place as him be in the same place as him. He can't make them like him.

And it will only hurt those who want to see theater, hear music, or earn a living doing those things - which I'm sure doesn't bother him at all.  I'm glad there's nothing coming up this season that I was planning on going to see.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-takes-over-kennedy-center-200205406.html

He's such a spoiled child.

 

The old money New York society saw him for exactly what he was. A new money parvenue. Crass, uncultured and dishonest. They would have nothing to do with him and I'm sure he's had a vendetta against them for decades.

 

Edited February 7 by peacheslatour

[nokat]

I'll tell you my experiences. A friend and I would sneak into the men's bathrooms to pee. No lines, and they didn't care. The only weirdo I found was the guy who found it funny to walk in to a women's bathroom and look over walls. These are the perverts, not trans people.

[isalicat]

30 minutes ago, PRgal said:

I’ve only come across a handful of places where all gender bathrooms had multiple stalls.  Every other one was single use.  As in a toilet and a sink with a door. 

I failed to communicate clearly! Yes, single use all gender bathrooms should be the norm, thus ensuring privacy and safety for everyone (particularly parents needing to take their kids in or allowing their kids to go in on their own).

[Dimity]

37 minutes ago, isalicat said:

I don't want anyone I don't know with a penis in my bathroom or dressing/changing room so if that makes someone uncomfortable, I am sorry about that but my safety/privacy is important to me.

No one is arguing that women should feel comfortable having men in their bathroom or changing room, what people are pointing out is simply how would you know?  Are bearded ladies making the news as they go into the ladies room?  No.  And any   man who gets his jollies dressing as a woman so he can listen to women pee or passes as a woman to get into their changing room because he wants to assault a woman isn't going to be deterred by Trump announcing there are officially two genders.

Edited February 7 by Dimity

[ebk57]

2 minutes ago, isalicat said:

I failed to communicate clearly! Yes, single use all gender bathrooms should be the norm, thus ensuring privacy and safety for everyone (particularly parents needing to take their kids in or allowing their kids to go in on their own).

Single use, as in one room with a door and lock on it?  Didn't you say in your previous post that this would eliminate lines?  I think this would have the complete opposite outcome and the lines would wrap around the block. 

[isalicat]

1 minute ago, Dimity said:

No one is arguing that women should feel comfortable having men in their bathroom or changing room, what people are pointing out is simply how would you know?  Are bearded ladies making the news as they go into the ladies room?  No.  And any any man who gets his jollies dressing as a woman so he can listen to women pee or because he wants to assault a woman isn't going to be deterred by Trump announcing there are officially two genders.

I can find endless recent news articles about men claiming to be women (this week) who have been in public gym or swimming pool changing rooms and bathrooms so apparently its pretty easy "to know". And a teenager boy dressed as a girl sexually assaulted not one but *two* different girls in the girl's bathroom in a Virginia public school (this was national news in the U.S.). No one criminally inclined will be deterred, you are entirely correct there, but its a start.

1 minute ago, ebk57 said:

Single use, as in one room with a door and lock on it?  Didn't you say in your previous post that this would eliminate lines?  I think this would have the complete opposite outcome and the lines would wrap around the block. 

Not true anywhere outside a crowded stadium or concert venue. And in those, at least the lines would be equal opportunity! (Most of the outdoor concerts I have been to have porta-potties, which in effect is the same thing...so lines for everyone!).

[ebk57]

13 minutes ago, isalicat said:

Not true anywhere outside a crowded stadium or concert venue. And in those, at least the lines would be equal opportunity! (Most of the outdoor concerts I have been to have porta-potties, which in effect is the same thing...so lines for everyone!).

Where else besides crowded stadiums and concert venues and theaters do you find lines to the bathrooms?  They can't retrofit these places to install enough single-use bathrooms to make this work.  They can't even retrofit existing venues to expand the the bathrooms they already have to make it work now.  

Edited February 7 by ebk57

[isalicat]

1 minute ago, ebk57 said:

Where else besides crowded stadiums and concert venues and theaters do you find lines to the bathrooms?  They can't retrofit these places to install enough single-use bathrooms to make this work.  They can't even retrofit existing venues to expand the the bathrooms they already have to make it work now.  

Actually yes, they can. All the restrooms in stadia and concert venues etc. could be easily repurposed. I go to a big hospital and some medical clinics locally and they have retrofitted all their restrooms in this way. Or, again, you use the "porta-potty" model and simply put in stalls in both men's and women's restrooms and open them up to both genders: voila!

[tearknee]

1 hour ago, isalicat said:

I'm pretty sure no one is being *forced* to play on any team...and the solution to the bathroom problem is one that is being implemented everywhere I go these days: unisex bathrooms (which is more fair to women anyway as it eliminates those endless lines we used to stand in). I don't want anyone I don't know with a penis in my bathroom or dressing/changing room so if that makes someone uncomfortable, I am sorry about that but my safety/privacy is important to me.

And the gender-reversed scenario of little girls catching a little boy changing? would you respond to them laughing, teasing or touching/tickling in the same way?

Boys are falsely seen as less vulnerable by anglo society

[fairffaxx]

35 minutes ago, tres bien said:

I saw that he’s banning paper straws.

He's my age & I remember when plastic FlexStraws were introduced during my childhood in the 1950s -- prior to that, we used paper straws.  Plastic didn't become widely used for household goods until after WWII.  According to Wikipedia, paper straws were first patented in 1888 (though the Sumerians probably invented the device made from different materials c. 3000 BC).  Trump says that paper straws "don't work" but legions of teenagers sharing milkshakes with 2 paper straws in a single glass would disagree.

[suomi]

15 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

I'm only using JFK as a comparison. I was old enough to hear it all, including the threesome with RFK & Marilyn. 

Not a threesome. Intimate time with both brothers but the encounters were separated by weeks or months. 

[Dimity]

1 hour ago, ebk57 said:

This hits very, very close to home... This will not make the "stars" who won't be in the same place as him be in the same place as him. He can't make them like him.

And it will only hurt those who want to see theater, hear music, or earn a living doing those things - which I'm sure doesn't bother him at all.  I'm glad there's nothing coming up this season that I was planning on going to see.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-takes-over-kennedy-center-200205406.html

He's such a spoiled child.

 

It looks like this is a developing story with not much info about plans going forward but does anyone else have a premonition as to who will be on stage at the next Kennedy Centre Honours Ceremony?  Kid Rock, Hulk Hogan and Cha Chi come to mind.

[Annber03]

3 hours ago, Dimity said:

Not just sports.  The obsession with the idea that men are putting on a dress in order to attack women in washrooms is just bizarre.  First and most obviously you don't have to be trans to put on a dress and go into a woman's washroom.  You don't even have to put on the dress.  As I said, bizarre.

Seriously, this. Like, do people really think some guy who actually wants to assault a woman is going to stand at the door to their restroom and be like, "Well, damn, I was gonna go in there and attack that woman, but since they'll only let certain women in there I guess I can't." 

If a guy wants to assault a woman, he's going to do it dress or no dress, restrictions or no restrictions. Criminals don't care about rules and laws - after all, isn't that the same argument the right keeps bringing up when trying to explain why we can't possbly enact any sort of gun control? 

Bottom line, this kind of scenario just...does not happen. And is exceedingly unlikely to ever happen. And if it does happen? It's still not any sort of justification for banning transgender people from using the same restroom as those who aren't transgender. 

Again I say, the people who obsess over the genitals of complete strangers in the stall next to them are the ones being really freaking weird and creepy here. Why the fuck is this stuff even any of your (general "your") business in the first place? 

Regarding the whole thing of transgender people in sports, repeating myself once more here, too, but it's just the whole, "But what if I get beat by a girl?!?!" reaction with a fresh coat of paint on it. It's just a bunch of insecure manbabies who can't deal with the fact that simply being cisgender men doesn't magically make them brilliant at every single thing they do, or try to do. 

2 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

I am late to reply here, but I want to remind everyone that it wasn't DJT who said "best sex I ever had," it was supposedly Marla Maples saying it about him!

See cover of New York Post in this wikipedia link. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_Sex_I've_Ever_Had

This is another reason I can't forgive Trump supporters for inflicting this guy on us. At one time, his sex scandals were relegated to the tabloids, where I could happily ignore them and go about my day. 

Now they're part of the government record and in the actual news and I have images in my head that no amount of brain bleach will ever be able to scrub away. *Rubs temples* 

[annzeepark914]

8 hours ago, tres bien said:

He still “insults” President Obama by him using his middle name because he felt mocked at the WH Correspondents dinner in 2012

His crazy MAGAs in house want to change the constitution so he can for a third term. Well so can President Obama but President Obama isn’t a megalomaniac 

I'd love to see Obama run against Trump. Talk about donnie's bigliest humiliation --followed by a humongous inauguration turnout for the new President Obama 😁

[suomi]

15 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

I don't view DJT as evil because he's piggish in his relationships. <snip> Did you see all those adorable young women who applauded the fact that they can now compete fair and square in their chosen sport? 

 

He brags openly about being a pageant predator.

He creeped on adorable young girls and young women for many years. During his pageant era (1996-2015 when he was 50-69 years old) he co-owned the Miss Universe Organization which included the Miss USA and Miss Teen USA pageants. Miss USA contestant minimum age is 18, average age of winners is 20.4 years.

Did you hear him bragging about strolling into Miss Teen USA dressing rooms while those adorable young women were naked? The age range for that pageant is 14-19 years. He also joked about his obligation to sleep with the contestants. 

JFK was a tom cat but he dallied with adults. Biden never joked about having old man sex with teenagers. 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/12/donald-trump-miss-usa-dressing-room-2001-rehearsal

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2 hours ago, Annber03 said:

Bottom line, this kind of scenario just...does not happen. And is exceedingly unlikely to ever happen. And if it does happen? It's still not any sort of justification for banning transgender people from using the same restroom as those who aren't transgender.

Indeed; in all the school districts, cities, and states that protect (or protected <sigh>) the right of transgender people to use the restroom that matches their gender identity, and of nonbinary people to use the one best matching their gender identity, none saw a rise in attacks in restrooms, or in people pretending to be transgender in order to get into one.

The only harassment or assault that happens in any notable numbers in public restrooms is that against transgender and nonbinary people, not by them.

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6 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

Seriously, this. Like, do people really think some guy who actually wants to assault a woman is going to stand at the door to their restroom and be like, "Well, damn, I was gonna go in there and attack that woman, but since they'll only let certain women in there I guess I can't." 

If a guy wants to assault a woman, he's going to do it dress or no dress, restrictions or no restrictions. Criminals don't care about rules and laws - after all, isn't that the same argument the right keeps bringing up when trying to explain why we can't possbly enact any sort of gun control? 

Bottom line, this kind of scenario just...does not happen. And is exceedingly unlikely to ever happen. And if it does happen? It's still not any sort of justification for banning transgender people from using the same restroom as those who aren't transgender. 

Again I say, the people who obsess over the genitals of complete strangers in the stall next to them are the ones being really freaking weird and creepy here. Why the fuck is this stuff even any of your (general "your") business in the first place? 

Regarding the whole thing of transgender people in sports, repeating myself once more here, too, but it's just the whole, "But what if I get beat by a girl?!?!" reaction with a fresh coat of paint on it. It's just a bunch of insecure manbabies who can't deal with the fact that simply being cisgender men doesn't magically make them brilliant at every single thing they do, or try to do. 

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I've had so many debates on Twitter with idiotic people - men and women - who come up with so many excuses as to why they are so obsessed with transwomen in particular. It's not that I want to see transmen picked on any more than they already are, but I've talked to so many people who whine about how this is all about feminism and men are trying to make females disappear, and when I ask about transmen and if they're trying to make men disappear they either ignore it or come up with some lame reason why transwomen are somehow more dangerous. When it comes to "saving women's sports," I think it's mostly White Karens who wanted to use any excuse for why they didn't make it farther in their sport or men who are creepily obsessed with it - which is why it's fully up the FIC's alley. Neither transmen (who do participate in sports, too) nor transwomen are taking over sports, especially the more popular sports.

Like you, I find the idea of being so preoccupied about this when going to the bathroom incredibly weird. The only reason I would be afraid of someone when I'm in a public restroom is if they gave me a reason to. I'm not spending my time wondering if the person next to me has a penis or not. I do my business and leave.