Chit-Chat: The Feels

[Lantern7]

Going through my own stuff. The rest of the world chooses to move on while I'm distracted.

I just want one W. Just one. Can't Elon and/or one of his glorified i****s trip on the sidewalk or something?

[Dimity]

11 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

Here's hoping Denmark rethinks that tariff on Ozempic at least for the leopards.

I was wondering about that, have they actually added a tariff and if they have how much have the prices gone up?

[tearknee]

(I could email this to The Onion)

Elon Musk [leafing through a stack of magazines on a street stand with the best of the photoshoot he and other non-women "arranged" taking up most of the cover]:

"Hard to be a climate crusader when you are helplessly staring out of a men's magazine's cover at passers-by, only in a lacy brassiere and ladies fishnet suspenders and matching stockings, isn’t it Greta?"
 

[PRgal]

Watching what's happening in the US is giving me migraines.  Are you guys going to be okay?

[Dimity]

[Is Everyone Gone]

You know, there are many stories of presidents of both parties showing moments of great personal kindness and empathy. Like I read a letter from Richard Nixon to Thomas Eagleton's son that made me cry. 

Are there ANY stories of Trump doing anything kind and empathetic? 

[Spartan Girl]

And now he wants to take over Gaza.

As I stumble unwillingly across posts from unrepentant “both sides are bad” third party/uncomitted/non voters, I’m reminded strongly of Namaari from Raya and the Last Dragon, who screwed the world over twice, then instead of owning up to her actions and apologizing, passed the buck to Raya saying that she was just as responsible because she didn’t trust her or Sisu enough. Even though Raya did try and Namaari was the one that blew it all to hell by bringing a crossbow, pointing it at Sisu and tightening her finger on the trigger.

4 minutes ago, Is Everyone Gone said:

Are there ANY stories of Trump doing anything kind and empathetic? 

[Avaleigh]

2 minutes ago, Is Everyone Gone said:

Are there ANY stories of Trump doing anything kind and empathetic? 

I'm pretty sure he thinks empathy is for "losers." He seems to think that stuff like the golden rule is only for suckers and weaklings. 

Anything he does that falls under the kindness category, e.g. calling the family of someone who was killed, is purely about self interest and whether or not it'll make him look good to his base.

[Dimity]

12 minutes ago, Is Everyone Gone said:

 

Are there ANY stories of Trump doing anything kind and empathetic? 

There was that time he was raising money for a children's charity and...oh wait, never mind.

[bluegirl147]

10 minutes ago, Is Everyone Gone said:

 

Are there ANY stories of Trump doing anything kind and empathetic? 

No and believe me if he had he would have shouted it from the rooftops. This is a guy who wants credit and applause for simply being. I can't think of one good quality he has.  I can't even say he is a good father.  I doubt he even knows his kids birthdays. And yet there are people who think he is some sort of messiah.  

[Lantern7]

4 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

No and believe me if he had he would have shouted it from the rooftops. This is a guy who wants credit and applause for simply being. I can't think of one good quality he has.  I can't even say he is a good father.  I doubt he even knows his kids birthdays. And yet there are people who think he is some sort of messiah.  

I saw the first few sentences in my feed. I didn’t know if you were talking about Trump or Musk. Thinking about it, does it make a difference?

[SoMuchTV]

5 minutes ago, Dimity said:

20 minutes ago, Is Everyone Gone said:

 

Are there ANY stories of Trump doing anything kind and empathetic? 

There was that time he was raising money for a children's charity and...oh wait, never mind

How about when he fought so hard for justice for that poor woman murdered in Central Park. Oh wait. 

[Anela]

8 minutes ago, Avaleigh said:

I'm pretty sure he thinks empathy is for "losers." He seems to think that stuff like the golden rule is only for suckers and weaklings. 

Anything he does that falls under the kindness category, e.g. calling the family of someone who was killed, is purely about self interest and whether or not it'll make him look good to his base.

The few MAGA I know, said that Trudeau/Canada bent the knee to him. Same with Mexico. It's all insane. 

[Dimity]

3 minutes ago, Anela said:

The few MAGA I know, said that Trudeau/Canada bent the knee to him. Same with Mexico. It's all insane. 

And this is why it impossible to actually have a reasonable conversation with Trump supporters. 

Trump blinked. 

Whether that is because it was always the plan (with him who knows) or because he got a look at the Stock Market or because someone sat him down and carefully explained, using one and two syllable words, what exactly was going to happen to the American consumer if the tariffs took effect.

[Bastet]

14 minutes ago, Anela said:

The few MAGA I know, said that Trudeau/Canada bent the knee to him. Same with Mexico. It's all insane. 

(I saw it posted elsewhere without attribution, so I can't give credit where it's due.)

Edited February 5 by Bastet

[partofme]

43 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

I can't even say he is a good father.  I doubt he even knows his kids birthdays. And yet there are people who think he is some sort of messiah.  

I think he doesn’t even like 3 of his children.  And yet last week Colbert was showing clips of a whole bunch of Republicans calling him Daddy.  The delusion is astounding.  

[Dimity]

7 minutes ago, partofme said:

And yet last week Colbert was showing clips of a whole bunch of Republicans calling him Daddy.

Considering his supporters were out there on the campaign trail wearing adult diapers outside their clothes and sporting kotex on their ears, yeah, not gonna say this surprises me.

[annzeepark914]

8 minutes ago, partofme said:

I think he doesn’t even like 3 of his children.  And yet last week Colbert was showing clips of a whole bunch of Republicans calling him Daddy.  The delusion is astounding.  

Seriously? Republicans are calling him "daddy"? WTH is wrong with these people? This is sick.

[SoMuchTV]

1 minute ago, annzeepark914 said:

Seriously? Republicans are calling him "daddy"? WTH is wrong with these people? This is sick.

Omg, you haven’t heard “daddy’s home”? Google at your own risk. 

[kittykat]

1 hour ago, PRgal said:

Watching what's happening in the US is giving me migraines.  Are you guys going to be okay?

I seriously don't know anymore.  The worst feeling is watching it unfold with my eyes fully open and feeling like there is absolutely nothing to do.  I can write representatives and senators all day but what will happen?  I'm worried the next steps this administration is going to take are going to involve violence and then all hell will break loose.

[Lantern7]

5 hours ago, PRgal said:

Watching what's happening in the US is giving me migraines.  Are you guys going to be okay?

It feels really dire. Some days, I don't think we'll make it to the Midterms, which would take place 21 months from now, let alone 2028. I feel that in order to get some semblance of sanity, a lot of things would need to happen that would have been considered unthinkable to think about desiring 10-15 years ago. My philosophy is that nothing becomes my problem until it becomes my problem, but my conscience forces me to the part when a foot is on my neck.

Edited February 5 by Lantern7

[Soapy Goddess]

9 hours ago, Anela said:

But those of you paying attention, knew what was on the menu this time.  I’m not yelling at you, but you saw what he campaigned on.  As @Yeah No said, it would be good to hear what trump supporters don’t like about him, or what he’s doing.  All I ever see, outside of those who are being affected by his actions themselves, are them worshipping a king, and laughing at liberals.  

Appreciate your response, but I can assure you that I don't worship anyone and I'm not laughing about it either. I Initially came here for the same reason that I watch the View...to learn why half the country hates our president. And I spent the last 4 years listening to the same mantra day in and day out. 

I don't know why I thought this thread would be different, but from my perspective it was the same old tropes repeatedly. And just as people are curious as to what I like/dislike about the man, not once have I heard anyone give him  credit for anything positive, such as the possibility of ending a war in the middle east that nobody wants. He appears to have the respect of other world leaders and IMO that's a good thing to help keep us ALL safe in our respective countries.

Did anyone see his joint conference with the leader of Israel today? Netanyahu couldn't say enough good things about working with Trump. And for all our sakes, let's pray Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons or we're all dead. 

[Soapy Goddess]

4 hours ago, Dimity said:

And this is why it impossible to actually have a reasonable conversation with Trump supporters. 

Trump blinked. 

You see by saying the above, you're not even giving anyone a chance to have a reasonable conversation. IOW, starting off with a negative comment does nothing to help promote a reasonable conversation.

 

5 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

I can't even say he is a good father. 

And you know this how?  As someone once told me "what's your source"?

[Yeah No]

13 hours ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

We are beyond the  polite disagreement and 'oh I just have a different view' stage. 

We are on the pick and side and be ready to fight tooth and nail stage before he completely ruins and takes over the country. 

We are no longer picking between two views of which side is better to run the country. 

We are at the point of one side is seizing control illegally and the other side better respond and stop it before we are a dictatorship. 

 

I agree with you generally but we have to resist "the ends justify the means" philosophy. We can't abandon our ethics in the process and come down to their level in fighting them. And that's admittedly a difficult thing to do and succeed.

12 hours ago, Notabug said:

I, too, think that the previous administrations' policies on undocumented immigrants were not working and that the government could be run more efficiently.  But I cannot support the cruel treatment, insistence on loyalty to one person above all else including the actual nation or allowing a non-qualified billionaire access to financial records that must be kept secure from outside interference.  The end will NEVER justify the means for me if the means are immoral, illegal and corrupt.

This sums up my position on this as well.

11 hours ago, tres bien said:

Every time a reporter would interview a Trump supporter during the campaign it was the same thing. “I don’t like him but I like his policies”. Never did I see a reporter ask what policies 

So I’m guessing those people are fine with his policies and were expecting what’s he done for the past two weeks because nothing he’s done or has Musk doing affects them or their family, friends, neighbors or coworkers. They’re all somehow immune.

Yeah I don't get that either. It's amazing that they walk lock step with this guy no matter if he does things that hurt them in the long run. They'll find a way to spin it that it benefits them somehow. It's a type of insanity.

But I don't even get the idea of separating a person from their policies. An immoral, indecent, self aggrandizing and entirely self centered person is not capable of policies that will benefit anyone but themselves. But try telling his base that....And they think Democratic politicians are like that too. Perhaps some have some similar qualities but Trump, he has ALL OF THEM to the worst degree possible!

8 hours ago, Anela said:

I’m just saying, we’re lucky to have this thread at all. 
I’d like to know if the trump supporters are fine with what Elon is doing.  Or with trump saying he won’t feel responsible if someone harms fauci, now that he’s removed his security.  

Some of my anger has gone to countering MAGA again. I can at least respond with the truth, to the vile lies that are pushed.  

I've been reading in articles like this one from Huffington Post that there are unofficial reports that some Republicans in gov't. are not on board with Musk but they are keeping their mouths shut about it for political and self serving reasons:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jasmine-crockett-elon-musk_n_67a05410e4b05219014577bf

But did we expect any different? Republicans never break ranks.

5 hours ago, Avaleigh said:

I'm pretty sure he thinks empathy is for "losers." He seems to think that stuff like the golden rule is only for suckers and weaklings. 

Anything he does that falls under the kindness category, e.g. calling the family of someone who was killed, is purely about self interest and whether or not it'll make him look good to his base.

I still can't get over the hypocrisy of the religious right so-called "Christians" that have to go through insane mental gymnastics in order to believe that Trump is a good person that wants what's right, LOL. Completely ignoring all the evidence to the contrary. Wow, denial ain't just a river in Egypt! The kicker is the screwed up logic that he is "God's imperfect instrument", meaning God bringing something good out of something profane. Yeah, more denial in action there....

6 hours ago, PRgal said:

Watching what's happening in the US is giving me migraines.  Are you guys going to be okay?

Thanks for asking. I don't know. I am taking it day by day. It hasn't been easy. This place does help, though. Like someone else mentioned, I'm hoping the midterms changes things in 2 years. My political friend is talking me off the ledge with that. We'll see. A lot has happened in only a couple of weeks. I shudder to think of what can happen in 2 years. Ugh.

[Anela]

55 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Appreciate your response, but I can assure you that I don't worship anyone and I'm not laughing about it either. I Initially came here for the same reason that I watch the View...to learn why half the country hates our president. And I spent the last 4 years listening to the same mantra day in and day out. 

I don't know why I thought this thread would be different, but from my perspective it was the same old tropes repeatedly. And just as people are curious as to what I like/dislike about the man, not once have I heard anyone give him  credit for anything positive, such as the possibility of ending a war in the middle east that nobody wants. He appears to have the respect of other world leaders and IMO that's a good thing to help keep us ALL safe in our respective countries.

Did anyone see his joint conference with the leader of Israel today? Netanyahu couldn't say enough good things about working with Trump. And for all our sakes, let's pray Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons or we're all dead. 

But he hasn't done anything positive, and he didn't end a war in the Middle East. He's just said that the US is going to own Gaza, they're going to force Palestinians to move somewhere else, and level it, to build a resort. That's exactly what he said he would do, last Summer. 

I saw a bit of that conference, and I can't stand Netanyahu, what I know of him, so no, I don't care what he says about trump. He held off on any ceasefire deals, until trump was about to be inaugurated. The former host of the apprentice, said that he was on the phone with Netanyahu, every day (which was apparently illegal, but the guy is a criminal, and doesn't care about the law, so...)

And what about everything that Elon is doing?

[anony.miss]

2 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

ending a war in the middle east that nobody wants.

Trump is not going to end a war, he's going to start one. Not a single Arab nation is going to allow the United States to waltz in and ethnically cleanse Gaza to build luxury condos; not a single western nation will do anything but condemn the United States for sending in troops to force Palestinians from their homeland.  The idea is immoral, repugnant and disgusting.

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Netanyahu couldn't say enough good things about working with Trump.

Of course Netanyahu was kissing Trump's ass; he's no stranger to being accused of war crimes himself. 

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He appears to have the respect of other world leaders

Trump is held in such deep contempt by world leaders,  he's been mocked repeatedly over the years by several of them. WAPO, 2019:

"Instead, Trump has been the object of repeated jest and even mockery by fellow world leaders. And it’s been caught on tape — again. The most recent example came Tuesday, when the leaders of Canada, France, Holland and the United Kingdom seemed to be recounting Trump’s lengthy — and occasionally wild — interactions with reporters earlier in the day."

"....Even more world leaders appeared to join in mocking Trump last year during his speech at the United Nations. Trump made one of his characteristically hyperbolic claims about his achievements as president — “In less than two years, my administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country” — and drew audible laughter. (He later tried to argue that the world leaders were laughing with him rather than at him, but his real-time reaction didn’t exactly back that up. In addition, world leaders said anonymously that they were indeed having a laugh at Trump’s expense.)"

More examples of leaders showing contempt for Trump at:

https://archive.ph/dYXVa#selection-729.0-739.182

Given Trump's recent blathering about forcing Denmark to sell Greenland, tariff trade wars and ethnically cleansing Gaza, I can only imagine how much more loathing he's inspired among world leaders in the last two weeks alone -  every time Trump speaks, the world becomes less safe, less stable, less able to maintain any kind of balance.

Edited February 5 by anony.miss

[Yeah No]

4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

He appears to have the respect of other world leaders and IMO that's a good thing to help keep us ALL safe in our respective countries.

Did anyone see his joint conference with the leader of Israel today? Netanyahu couldn't say enough good things about working with Trump. And for all our sakes, let's pray Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons or we're all dead. 

"Appears" is the operative word in that sentence. World leaders kiss up to Trump only if they think they're going to get something from him. Behind his back it's another story and reports about that abound although I don't have any examples right now - I'm sure others do.

And the only reason Netanyahu is kissing up to Trump is because his own people hate him and somehow see Trump as the only person that can solve their problem - Another mistake because now Trump thinks he's going to treat Gaza like a big piece of real estate he can develop into a resort regardless of how anyone feels about it. Are both of them INSANE?  I think SO. Look, I predicted Sept. 11. I predict that this would cause even more war and this time we'd be right in the middle of it. Heaven help us!

I don't know much about world diplomacy but I know better than to think that Trump's "solution" would work. It would NOT work, it would fail spectacularly. It's the worst idea I've heard yet. I am a proponent of the two state solution.

Sometimes there's a reason things are the way they are. This problem doesn't still exist because everyone else was an idiot and Trump is some kind of genius. He is NOT. His ideas are laughable and frankly, embarrassing for the U.S. Trump's solution is something maybe a 3rd grader might come up with. It's insane. They call it "diplomacy" for a reason. Situations like this are not solved by coming in with a sledgehammer and alienating an entire race of people. I am just dumbfounded that people here in the US aren't aware of this.

[tres bien]

It’s either so misinformed or disingenuous to praise Trump for all his cockamamie plans to remake the Gaza Strip that really doesn’t deserve any thoughtful discussion 

All of the Palestinian supporters that closed down college campuses or actually believed his wild promises and refused to vote for Kamala or support democrats swinging the election by a tiny percentage where are you now?

Are you ok with the plans to ethically cleanse Gaza. To forcibly remove millions of citizens from their homes?

I seriously want to know. Where the fuck are you. Because maybe you could have been the voters that could have prevented all this BS. Whether or not his nutty dreams come to fruition seems pretty slim even with Bibi sitting next to him salivating at the thought 

Edited February 5 by tres bien

[bluegirl147]

10 hours ago, annzeepark914 said:

Seriously? Republicans are calling him "daddy"? WTH is wrong with these people? This is sick.

Mel Gibson went so far as to say Daddy is taking his belt off.

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

 

Did anyone see his joint conference with the leader of Israel today? Netanyahu couldn't say enough good things about working with Trump. And for all our sakes, let's pray Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons or we're all dead. 

They are birds of a feather.  Water seeks it's own level.

My source is my own ears.  He once said if Ivanka wasn't his daughter he would probably be dating her.  He also spoke about Tiffany's breasts when she was baby. So my opinion is he is not a good dad.

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

 

And you know this how?  As someone once told me "what's your source"?

[DrSpaceman73]

World leaders don't respect trump. 

They fear him because of the power of the us army and because he is nuts and makes rash decisions.  

But they dont respect him as any sort of political mastermind or for any intelligence he has, which is none. 

[abbyzenn]

I looked at this forum for the first time about a week ago and have been enjoying (?)  the discussions.  I've especially liked hearing from Canadians regarding the "trade war."  Something that Trump seems to overlook regarding fentanyl is that there is a market for it in the US.  What is he doing to reduce that?  As a side note:  two years ago yesterday I was seriously injured in an auto accident (lots of broken bones including 2 vertebrae in my neck and shattering my left leg), in the ambulance the EMT said I'm giving you a dose of fentanyl - I must have had a terrified look because he then said "don't worry it's a small dose and medical grade."

I am a retired federal employee so this might cloud my thinking but I'm appalled and furious as to what's happening with federal agemcies and the workforce.  I think you need to know what  Congress has mandated and what's required by current laws before you can shut down the agency or terminate employees.  There may be programs that could be eliminated or cut back in funding but that requires a deep look at what the agency does.  If Congress has mandated that X amount of money go to X program it's the job of the federal worker to implement that.  What's the criminality that Musk claims to have found?  Just because you don't like a certain program (say aid going to a particular country, NGO or whatever) doesn't mean it's criminal.  And if it's so rampant you don't need to make up lies such as the 50 milion dollars (which has now been upped by Trump to 100 million) of condoms going to Hamas (now according to Trump).

I'm tired of labeling every federal worker as lazy and in the words of this administration incompetent and criminal.  Sure I worked in offices that sometimes had someone that was lazy (who often was the boss' pet) but don't tell me that there's no lazy workers in private companies.  And if you want to talk about incompetent or criminals might I say Enron or Worldcom or AIG or Trump University just to name a few.

 

 

[PRgal]

I'm pretty sure A LOT of Republican politicians DO NOT like You Know Who but are being total wimps and not speaking out.  Everyone is afraid.  They want to protect their jobs and their reputations so they CAN'T.  It's like my little guy who refused to tell us WHY he was feeling sick, just that he WAS.  It wasn't until we found out that he and another kid were playing rougher at school (it really wasn't about bullying but IMHO, proving their masculinity since they're two of the smallest boys in the grade) - to the point that they can't sit next to each other anymore - that we knew.  We had a nice little talk with him, and we believe he "gets it," but I'm also noticing that he's opening up a lot more.   

ETA:  As for us here on the Canadian side, we are trying to "buy Canadian" as much as we can, but it's hard to define what "buy Canadian" TRULY means.  Is it about the company?  The owner or supplier (if it's this, then would McDonald's "technically" be Canadian if it's a franchise, since it's Canadian-owned?  The beef and potatoes are always 100% Canadian too)?  What?  I've been buying mostly Canadian produced groceries since goodness knows when anyway.....

Edited February 5 by PRgal

[Ohiopirate02]

15 minutes ago, abbyzenn said:

I looked at this forum for the first time about a week ago and have been enjoying (?)  the discussions.  I've especially liked hearing from Canadians regarding the "trade war."  Something that Trump seems to overlook regarding fentanyl is that there is a market for it in the US.  What is he doing to reduce that?  As a side note:  two years ago yesterday I was seriously injured in an auto accident (lots of broken bones including 2 vertebrae in my neck and shattering my left leg), in the ambulance the EMT said I'm giving you a dose of fentanyl - I must have had a terrified look because he then said "don't worry it's a small dose and medical grade."

Fentanyl is a legal drug in the US. It's been used in hospitals, pharmacies, and by EMTs for the last 25 years without causing overdoses and deaths. The whole "fentanyl at the border" crisis is a separate issue. Fentanyl is more potent than other opioids and it is easy to add too much to other drugs and cause an overdose. It's also cheap. Which is why drug cartels and American dealers are cutting it into more expensive drugs.

[Dimity]

47 minutes ago, abbyzenn said:

I'm tired of labeling every federal worker as lazy and in the words of this administration incompetent and criminal.  Sure I worked in offices that sometimes had someone that was lazy (who often was the boss' pet) but don't tell me that there's no lazy workers in private companies.  And if you want to talk about incompetent or criminals might I say Enron or Worldcom or AIG or Trump University just to name a few.

I have worked mainly for the federal government here in Canada over the course of my career as a librarian and I too am sick and tired of the bad rap federal workers get.  Of course I knew people who gamed the system so to speak, but they were few and far between.  Most people were dedicated professionals and yet our nation as a whole thinks of them quite negatively. 

Which makes it easy for anyone vying for public office to make them scapegoats.  Of course nothing compared to what President Musk et al are doing.  But it explains, at least somewhat, why a lot of the public doesn't care and is prepared to believe any lies they are told about them.

[bluegirl147]

48 minutes ago, PRgal said:

I'm pretty sure A LOT of Republican politicians DO NOT like You Know Who but are being total wimps and not speaking out.  Everyone is afraid.  They want to protect their jobs and their reputations so they CAN'T.  

Their reputations are already ruined.  If history is allowed to be written accurately these Republican politicians will be thought of as the worst bottom of the barrel representatives in at least a century and a half.

21 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

Fentanyl is a legal drug in the US. It's been used in hospitals, pharmacies, and by EMTs for the last 25 years without causing overdoses and deaths. The whole "fentanyl at the border" crisis is a separate issue. Fentanyl is more potent than other opioids and it is easy to add too much to other drugs and cause an overdose. It's also cheap. Which is why drug cartels and American dealers are cutting it into more expensive drugs.

Buying drugs has become Russian roulette. You never know if what you are getting has fentanyl in it.

[Dimity]

2 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

I have not heard one word from any of those voters who didn't vote or voted third party because of Gaza. They might want to forget what they did but the rest of us have not.

Yes.  I think I've mentioned here that I have  a few younger relatives who were blaming Biden for not magically solving a crisis that has been ongoing for generations.  Now, oddly these same people who were constantly posting about Gaza aren't saying a damn word.

Edited February 5 by Dimity

[Notabug]

9 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

You see by saying the above, you're not even giving anyone a chance to have a reasonable conversation. IOW, starting off with a negative comment does nothing to help promote a reasonable conversation.

 

And you know this how?  As someone once told me "what's your source"?

Trump openly cheated on the mother of his first 3 kids, spending years publicly flaunting his extra-marital relationship with the woman who would become his second wife. Their relationship began around the time Trump's oldest kid was 7 and the third was just a baby and continued for years.  He divorced their mother about 6 years after he started openly cheating on her.

He announced publicly that Marla Maples, mother of his fourth child, gave him 'the best sex I've ever had'. Because that's just the kind of classy guy he is.  I'm sure none of his kids were bothered by that statement, made around the time of the divorce from Ivana.

Trump gave an interview where he agreed with the interviewer that his then young adult daughter was a 'hot piece of a**' and on more than one occasion stated that, if she wasn't his daughter, he'd want to date her.

Back when he was running for President the first time, he met with a bunch of kids who were around 10 years old.  He told the girls that they were so cute, he would probably want to date them when they were older. Every child's dream; to pair up with an ugly guy older than her grandfather.

I think it is a pretty safe bet that Trump is not a good father.  

Edited February 5 by Notabug

[Ohiopirate02]

2 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Buying drugs has become Russian roulette. You never know if what you are getting has fentanyl in it.

For regular people, yes. The drug dealers who service the rich and very rich are not going to sell those clients tainted drugs. From what I have read, it is easy and inexpensive to test drugs for fentanyl before using. I do think more and more dealers will be testing before selling in places like my state where one can now be charged for murder for selling drugs to a person who dies from an overdose.

[Notabug]

9 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

onference with the leader of Israel today? Netanyahu couldn't say enough good things about working with Trump. And for all our sakes, let's pray Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons or we're all dead. 

So, you think that Netanyahu is on board with giving Gaza to the US to turn into an Atlantic City type Trump resort?  I think Netanyahu was just trying to placate the crazy guy that Israel has to live with for the next 4 years.  Anything less than full-throated praise and Trump slaps trade sanctions and who knows what else on Israel.

[heatherchandler]

On 2/4/2025 at 7:35 AM, Annber03 said:

Except when people say things that are blatantly not true and not based in anything resembling fact, then yes, they are indeed misinformed.

The problem is the media.  Both sides of the media.  I watch all channels, local news, world news.  The information Fox News presents is not the whole story, much like Rachel Maddow who will leave out key components.  Both are intentionally putting out just enough to be “truth” while leaving out just enough to get people sad, mad, or scared.  You must know this.

As for claiming that one side has the moral high ground, that’s just ignorance.  It is similar to republicans saying, “well abortion kills babies so we are right, end of story.”  It’s NOT the whole story and it’s not right to boil something down to: I’m right, you’re wrong, I won’t even listen to you because you are evil.  And liberals are inclusive!  Inclusivity means respect for all opinions even if you don’t agree.. especially if you don’t agree.

 

[peacheslatour]

1 minute ago, heatherchandler said:

The problem is the media.  Both sides of the media.  I watch all channels, local news, world news.  The information Fox News presents is not the whole story, much like Rachel Maddow who will leave out key components.  Both are intentionally putting out just enough to be “truth” while leaving out just enough to get people sad, mad, or scared.  You must know this.

As for claiming that one side has the moral high ground, that’s just ignorance.  It is similar to republicans saying, “well abortion kills babies so we are right, end of story.”  It’s NOT the whole story and it’s not right to boil something down to: I’m right, you’re wrong, I won’t even listen to you because you are evil.  And liberals are inclusive!  Inclusivity means respect for all opinions even if you don’t agree.. especially if you don’t agree.

 

[Dimity]

12 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Trump gave an interview where he agreed with the interviewer that his then young adult daughter was a 'hot piece of a**' and on more than one occasion stated that, if she wasn't his daughter, he'd want to date her.

What gets me  is that the guy doing the interviewing knew he could say something like that about another man's DAUGHTER and he'd get agreement.  Wow.

[peacheslatour]

18 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Trump openly cheated on the mother of his first 3 kids, spending years publicly flaunting his extra-marital relationship with the woman who would become his second wife. Their relationship began around the time Trump's oldest kid was 7 and the third was just a baby and continued for years.  He divorced their mother about 6 years after he started openly cheating on her.

He announced publicly that Marla Maples, mother of his fourth child, gave him 'the best sex I've ever had'. Because that's just the kind of classy guy he is.  I'm sure none of his kids were bothered by that statement, made around the time of the divorce from Ivana.

Trump gave an interview where he agreed with the interviewer that his then young adult daughter was a 'hot piece of a**' and on more than one occasion stated that, if she wasn't his daughter, he'd want to date her.

Back when he was running for President the first time, he met with a bunch of kids who were around 10 years old.  He told the girls that they were so cute, he would probably want to date them when they were older. Every child's dream; to pair up with an ugly guy older than her grandfather.

I think it is a pretty safe bet that Trump is not a good father.  

I saw Marla and Donald on the Regis and Kathi Lee show the morning after they got married bragging about all the great sex they were having and laughing about how long they'd been doing it behind Ivana's back.

[Notabug]

7 minutes ago, Dimity said:

What gets me  is that the guy doing the interviewing knew he could say something like that about another man's DAUGHTER and he'd get agreement.  Wow.

It was Howard Stern, enough said.

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, peacheslatour said:

I saw Marla and Donald on the Regis and Kathi Lee show the morning after they got married bragging about all the great sex they were having and laughing about how long they'd been doing it behind Ivana's back.

People blame the media for cherrypicking what they show (and there is certainly some truth to this but it's almost always to Trump's benefit) but with Trump he's never made any secret of what a vile human being he is.  Give him a platform and he'll tell you himself.

[Ohiopirate02]

3 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

I saw Marla and Donald on the Regis and Kathi Lee show the morning after they got married bragging about all the great sex they were having and laughing about how long they'd been doing it behind Ivana's back.

I remember watching an interview of the two of them on 20/20 (maybe?) where Marla was bragging about leaving her earring in the Trump's martial bed so Ivana would know. I was way too young to watch that, but I have always thought of Donald Trump as a disgusting man.

[peacheslatour]

1 minute ago, Dimity said:

People blame the media for cherrypicking what they show (and there is certainly some truth to this but it's almost always to Trump's benefit) but with Trump he's never made any secret of what a vile human being he is.  Give him a platform and he'll tell you himself.

Regis and his sidekick were yukking it up like it was the best joke they ever heard too. I never watched that show again and this was in the early nineties. It was blatantly obvious then what everyone in the fashion world knew in the seventies - that he is a rotten piece of crap.

[Dimity]

10 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Regis and his sidekick were yukking it up like it was the best joke they ever heard too. I never watched that show again and this was in the early nineties. It was blatantly obvious then what everyone in the fashion world knew in the seventies - that he is a rotten piece of crap.

Ugh.  I never saw that.  But I  did see the SNL sketches about Trump back in the day, the one that stands out was with the Church Lady (Dana Carvey) interviewing Trump  (the late great Phil Hartman) and the Trump Pump - the Church Lady's name for dear Marla.

[Milk-Eyed Mender]

1 hour ago, PRgal said:

I'm pretty sure A LOT of Republican politicians DO NOT like You Know Who but are being total wimps and not speaking out.  Everyone is afraid.  They want to protect their jobs and their reputations so they CAN'T.  

"WON'T." The word is "won't." 

"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.” John Stuart Mills

Take a gander at Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger who could and did. If your job requires you to act without conscience, without integrity, without ethics, you get a new job.

 

 

[bluegirl147]

27 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

The problem is the media.  Both sides of the media.  I watch all channels, local news, world news.  The information Fox News presents is not the whole story, much like Rachel Maddow who will leave out key components.  Both are intentionally putting out just enough to be “truth” while leaving out just enough to get people sad, mad, or scared.  You must know this.

 

 

While I agree the media has done us a huge disservice with how they report things I am also going to blame voters and people who didn't vote. It's not like we didn't know who Trump was.  Now for people who wanted him to do what he is doing then fine you got what you wanted.  But for all those people who are complaining they didn't know Trump told us what he was going to do. At some point you have to take responsiblity for what you choose to believe.

 

I remember when Trump finally got outed for cheating on Ivana with Marla in Aspen.  He literally ran away. Well actually he skied away.  Most men when they get caught they show some contrition. But not Donald.  He bragged about it and nobody seemed to hold it against him.