S01.E01: Pilot

[shapeshifter]

7 hours ago, Chit Chat said:

It was driving me nuts trying to remember where I've seen the male detective (Daniel Sunjata)

Same. I was sure I knew him from a specific role, but no, for me it’s just H!ITG!
https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0839326
 

[EtheltoTillie]

8 hours ago, CeeBeeGee said:

I was always taught that it was cathedrals that face east, i.e., the altar end is to the east, because that's where Jerusalem is. But even this varies--St. Patrick's and the Cathedral of St. John the Divine both face south-east.

They face east in the NYC street grid, but I guess that's not true east. 

[chaifan]

I'm a fan of Kaitlin Olson, so I tuned in.  (Loved her in The Mick, and in Hacks.)  I wasn't overly wowed, but I was entertained, so they did their job.

As someone said above, she was giving major Erin Brokovich vibes as far as outfits and attitude.  A bit too much, in my opinion.  They could have toned down the 80's era hooker outfits.  I don't think they add anything to the character, and in fact, don't seem to mesh with the rest of her personality.  If she's so harried with 3 kids, not sleeping, no car, how is it that her hair is perfectly blown out/flat ironed, nails are impeccable, makeup is perfect, etc.?  Can't anyone just thrown on jeans and a t-shirt anymore?  I feel like they just have to make her scream "I am not a cop!" as loud as possible. 

Other silly point...  no cleaning service would provide such short dresses for it's cleaning staff.  No cleaning company today would provide dresses.  The company that cleans our offices have no uniform. The most I've seen in the last decade is a company logo t-shirt or polo with the cleaning company's name on it.

And I agree that someone who watches so many documentaries because they can't sleep would have known about basic police search rules/laws.  Fruit of the forbidden tree, or whatever.  They could have found another way for her to get the same info.

I was hoping she'd negotiate for a new car from the forfeiture lot.  I like that she negotiated for child care.

I like the twist of the missing husband.  I'm guessing he's in some form of witness protection.  I know, they let you bring your family, but I'm handwaiving that.  There's going to be some mob/cartel connection, or something like that.

 

 

[ams1001]

1 hour ago, chaifan said:

Other silly point...  no cleaning service would provide such short dresses for it's cleaning staff.  No cleaning company today would provide dresses.  The company that cleans our offices have no uniform. The most I've seen in the last decade is a company logo t-shirt or polo with the cleaning company's name on it.

I thought of that, too. I figured she seems like the type who would hem her skirt to suit her length preferences. (A skirt seems like a less-than-practical option for the job but she could just prefer it to pants...if only to show off her patterned stockings. I was amused by her old-school velcro high tops. They were so cool when I was in middle school...)

The cleaning people where I work have company-logo polo shirts but that seems to be the extent of their uniform. Maybe black pants, but not a specific type (one wears regular Dockers-type pants but another usually wears leggings). 

 

[DMK]

3 hours ago, chaifan said:

I was hoping she'd negotiate for a new car from the forfeiture lot.  I like that she negotiated for child care.

This works for me because it seems like she has decent public transportation that she can work with. I can say for myself that if I had any sort of public transportation where I live, I wouldn’t bother with a car. But we don’t even have buses, it’s awful.

[preeya]

19 hours ago, ams1001 said:

It was driving me nuts trying to remember where I've seen the male detective (Daniel Sunjata), and then I realized he was once on an episode of Sex and the City. He played a sailor.  

He also played Paul Briggs in Graceland, recently he was in Manifest, and back a few years he played Reggie Jackson in The Bronx is Burning.

ETA: The show reminded me a bit of Unforgettable with Poppy Montgomery.

Edited September 20 by preeya

[chaifan]

1 hour ago, DMK said:

This works for me because it seems like she has decent public transportation that she can work with. I can say for myself that if I had any sort of public transportation where I live, I wouldn’t bother with a car. But we don’t even have buses, it’s awful.

But for this job she will need to go to crime scenes, at all times of day/night.  She can't hitch a ride with the other officers all the time.  I think it would be funny if the department gave her one "on loan" that was confiscated in some drug deal or something.  (Yes, I know, they can't really do that, but hey, TV...)

[DMK]

1 hour ago, chaifan said:

But for this job she will need to go to crime scenes, at all times of day/night.  She can't hitch a ride with the other officers all the time.

I actually don’t see why not. Presumably, the police station is relatively close to her house, it can’t be that much of a hardship for them to swing by and pick her up.

[shapeshifter]

2 hours ago, DMK said:

I actually don’t see why not. Presumably, the police station is relatively close to her house, it can’t be that much of a hardship for them to swing by and pick her up.

Plus, this would create organic scenes for expository dialog.

[MerBearHou]

This show has some Psych to it as well.  Super observant and hyper glib; irritates the real officers; solves the crime.  

[Chit Chat]

6 hours ago, preeya said:

He also played Paul Briggs in Graceland, recently he was in Manifest, and back a few years he played Reggie Jackson in The Bronx is Burning.

The last thing I saw him on was The Devil Wears Prada.  I'm not familiar with the shows you mentioned.  🙂  I'm fairly new to the streaming world and it's very overwhelming to me, so I just stick with a few shows. 

[Raja]

On 9/18/2024 at 2:57 PM, anniebird said:

I was confused by the "all churches face East" thing. In my town, all the churches, no matter the denomination, face North or South because the major streets all run East/West. Did I miss something in her explanation?

 

 

On 9/18/2024 at 6:30 AM, ams1001 said:

 

I just assumed that she knew exactly what she had to spend and didn't have a lot of room for extras that day. Obviously she and her daughter both use makeup so she must make room in the budget for buying it on occasion.

OMG, this is adorable!

 

 

I just took it as because mommy said so moment. She is quirky but still has to instill some discipline.

On 9/18/2024 at 6:03 PM, callie lee 29 said:

The church thing is not correct. The one I grew up in faces north as do quite a few in my town. It kind of seemed like they were maybe amending that the East thing was more Catholic so.... Who knows.

I messed up the multi quote order. But they did go further with the "all churches" they did go further to at least the older churches with the classical architecture style so that the sun will shine through the stained glass windows in the morning and highlight the priest. The house internet detective even pulling up the wiki on the subject as our consultant was talking.

On 9/19/2024 at 7:21 AM, AnimeMania said:

How likely is it that Morgan would be completely alone working at night in a busy metropolitan police station. I would have guessed that the majority of crimes happen at night and the place would be very busy.

I can only think of the Baltimore shows, Homicide: Life on the Street and The Wire. "Green" meaning overtime on breaking cases make "red", unsolved cases turn "black." In this case a single section was not working overtime on the case so the special section office was shutdown. If anything happens during the night the local regular homicide detectives like Bosch in his Hollywood Division office would handle the case before a decision was made to approve the overtime to call in the Robbery Homicide Division special Major Crimes section to take over.

13 hours ago, DMK said:

I actually don’t see why not. Presumably, the police station is relatively close to her house, it can’t be that much of a hardship for them to swing by and pick her up.

Well if it supposed to be "real LA" working for Major Crimes of Robbery Homicide Division she would be out of the police headquarters building downtown. Buses and trains will get you close for a single mother on a cleaning crew. Of course she would be a risk taker to be that close to skid row walking and waiting on public transit at zero dark thirty. In any case there would be a police station relatively near her home to play Uber, but probably not the downtown HQ using their own officers.

[shapeshifter]

42 minutes ago, Raja said:

Of course she would be a risk taker to be that close to skid row walking and waiting on public transit at zero dark thirty. 

— which reminds me of another deal breaker of mine for show watching:
Having the crime fighters be the objects of depraved criminals stalking.
There's too many other, more satisfying (to me) shows to watch.

[Raja]

3 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

— which reminds me of another deal breaker of mine for show watching:
Having the crime fighters be the objects of depraved criminals stalking.
There's too many other, more satisfying (to me) shows to watch.

I'll just wait to see with what seems to be the unneeded find out what happened to her daughter's father overlay on the case of the week stories.

[iMonrey]

20 hours ago, DMK said:

This works for me because it seems like she has decent public transportation that she can work with. I can say for myself that if I had any sort of public transportation where I live, I wouldn’t bother with a car. But we don’t even have buses, it’s awful.

She has a car. It needs a new carburetor. Now that she's making a decent salary she should be able to afford one.

[chaifan]

32 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

She has a car. It needs a new carburetor. Now that she's making a decent salary she should be able to afford one.

I'm just glad they didn't make her the "genius" type who can do everything, watch a youtube video for 5 minutes and go and replace your own carburetor. 

[Raja]

1 hour ago, iMonrey said:

She has a car. It needs a new carburetor. Now that she's making a decent salary she should be able to afford one.

Like the teen's father the not driving bit seems to be the sort of quirky that survives pilot episodes 

[DMK]

2 hours ago, chaifan said:

I'm just glad they didn't make her the "genius" type who can do everything, watch a youtube video for 5 minutes and go and replace your own carburetor. 

A carburetor is actually not hard to replace, she could probably do it. But a various array of tools would be needed and likely doesn’t have that.

[Featherhat]

I just watched it and I enjoyed it. I thought I was going to find it completely annoying from the trailers and descriptions. Oh, really, she's a genius who can't possibly hold down any job but night cleaner? Really? But KO made it work and it's nice to see a character who is fairly happy with her life and situation even though it's definitely imperfect. Way too many shows would get bogged down in the angst of her circumstances. 

It reminds me of Castle and those USA procedural dramedies, which isn't a bad thing when there's so much to worry about generally. I guess she's quite like Shawn Spencer another under achieving genius who gets hired as a police consultant. 

I really loved seeing Judy Reyes again and it was nice to see that the Captain took her seriously and owned up that she also missed the clues that Morgan picked up. 

I actually liked her new partner ok. It was tropey but it's not surprising that he was so sceptical at first, I think most people would get frustrated at having to deal with her on a case when she goes around breaking into offices without a warrant or and doing seemingly random things. He came to her house to get her to help again pretty damn quick. 

I did wonder why they didn't check old family property to see if the victim was hiding out there early on but that's a minor case nitpick. 

Family scenes were okay, pretty standard setting up some long running plots. 

[Raja]

2 hours ago, Featherhat said:

Family scenes were okay, pretty standard setting up some long running plots. 

So if they are lucky to last long enough she has the baby now instead of needing to have  a cousin Oliver join the family later.

[Irlandesa]

On 9/18/2024 at 4:57 PM, anniebird said:

I was confused by the "all churches face East" thing. In my town, all the churches, no matter the denomination, face North or South because the major streets all run East/West. Did I miss something in her explanation?

That line was taken directly from the French version of the pilot so I just assume it applies more to the old European churches.  In fact, I like the lead and Judy Reyes but this episode was so similar to the French version which I recently watched that I had a hard time loving it. 

I do with they had selected someone else as the detective partner. 

[Chaos Theory]

Looks like the typical police procedural with a consultant because cops can’t be trusted to solve their own crimes.   At least the reason why the woman is there makes some sense.   She is the kind of smart that makes living in the real world difficult but couldn’t help herself and helped solve a case and cop in charge offered her a job.    I mean it makes some sense.     

[MerBearHou]

I may have missed this, but she works at night while her kids are asleep and the neighbor watches them?  What does she do during the day while they’re at school?  I get that the show’s plot put her by herself at night in an office so she can see things when no one else is around, but I don’t understand the realities of her work situation.  And call me old-fashioned but that micro-mini cleaning outfit and dancing by herself like she’s in Flashdance — both just eye-rollers for me.  

Edited September 23 by MerBearHou

[shapeshifter]

3 minutes ago, MerBearHou said:

I may have missed this, but she works at night while her kids are asleep and the neighbor watches them?  What does she do during the day while they’re at school?

Gets them ready for school, showers, sleeps, gets up in time for when they get out of school around 3. But I'm not sure how that works with the baby.

[MerBearHou]

1 minute ago, shapeshifter said:

Gets them ready for school, showers, sleeps, gets up in time for when they get out of school around 3. But I'm not sure how that works with the baby.

You know what?  I totally forgot she has an infant!  

[incandescent]

I thoroughly enjoyed it!

Monk has been mentioned here, but Kaitlin Olson's character really made me think of Adrian Monk's brain combined with Sharona Fleming's everything else.

[Raja]

33 minutes ago, MerBearHou said:

I may have missed this, but she works at night while her kids are asleep and the neighbor watches them?  What does she do during the day while they’re at school?  I get that the show’s plot put her by herself at night in an office so she can see things when no one else is around, but I don’t understand the realities of her work situation.  And call me old-fashioned but that micro-mini cleaning outfit and dancing by herself like she’s in Flashdance — both just eye-rollers for me.  

I think they went half way with the Sherlock, Dr. House analogy that she is hard to work with or be around. Part of she couldn't hold a relationship or a job speech that she gave. So the lone shift, not even any rest of a cleaning crew wondering why the other offices aren't done in sight for her. But then when working with the cops nothing abrasive comes from her. Only her daughter seemed to mind.

[Annber03]

2 hours ago, incandescent said:

I thoroughly enjoyed it!

Monk has been mentioned here, but Kaitlin Olson's character really made me think of Adrian Monk's brain combined with Sharona Fleming's everything else.

I can absolutely see this. Great comparison. That's another selling point for me, then. 

Decided to check this out, partly because I've heard some good comments about this show elsewhere and partly because I found out Deniz Akdeniz is on here as a series regular, and he popped up in a couple other shows I watched/watch ("United States of Al" and this past season of "Ghsots", where he had a particularly memorable and entertaining guest spot as a stripper at one of the ghosts' bachelor parties :D). Doesn't take much for me :p.

But echoing the others here, I too quite liked this pilot. I already like Morgan, she kind of reminds me a bit of Kristen from "Evil" with the chaotic home life and trying to juggle a family on her own and whatnot. And there were some moments that made me laugh as well, notably the bits where we get to see the crime scenes. The neat and tidy wife flipping off her curtains and Morgan explaining the two main reasons anyone would go to that one town were funny XD. 

I also liked the neighbor and I hope he continues to be a good, stable support system for her, though I also wonder if he'll have his own mysteries and secrets at some point as well. And the overarching mystery about the missing father is intriguing as well, and I'm curious to see where that will go. 

I also look forward to seeing more of the rest of the team and learning more about them individually, and how they and Morgan all learn to work together as they do. 

So yeah. Count me in :). 

[AnimeMania]

2 hours ago, Annber03 said:

I also liked the neighbor and I hope he continues to be a good, stable support system for her, though I also wonder if he'll have his own mysteries and secrets at some point as well.

Not 100% sure on this, but I think the neighbor that everyone keeps referring to is actually the grandfather, the father of the father of Morgan's two youngest children and happens to live next door. There seems to be a rift between the grandfather and his son and they don't spent much time together.

[chaifan]

10 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

That line was taken directly from the French version of the pilot so I just assume it applies more to the old European churches.  In fact, I like the lead and Judy Reyes but this episode was so similar to the French version which I recently watched that I had a hard time loving it. 

Does the French version of Morgan also make horrible fashion choices?  Or did they go polar opposite, and have her cleaning offices in vintage Dior and Channel?

[shapeshifter]

13 hours ago, MerBearHou said:

I may have missed this, but she works at night while her kids are asleep and the neighbor watches them?  What does she do during the day while they’re at school?

13 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

Gets them ready for school, showers, sleeps, gets up in time for when they get out of school around 3. But I'm not sure how that works with the baby.

13 hours ago, MerBearHou said:

You know what?  I totally forgot she has an infant!  

Even without an infant, if she works nights, she has to sleep during the day.
Even if the kids get picked up and dropped off by a bus (or does she have to drive them to school when the car is working?) the kids would still not be gone for more than 8 hours per day,
so she'd have the equivalent of another full time job of parenting from mid-afternoon until they went to bed, at which time she would go to her cleaning job, which is pretty physically exhausting, so the sleeping during the day is necessary.

And then there's cleaning her own house, shopping for groceries and preparing meals, taking them to the doctor when they are sick, etc. etc. 

Based on my own past as a single parent of 3 kids similarly spaced in ages, I would imagine she has the baby strapped to her back during parts of each day while she gets stuff done.
And when there's no babysitter available, she might bring the younger one to work, which, with a cleaning job at night, would mean making up a bed for him there while she cleans.
ETA: Oops. Just like @MerBearHou did above, I forgot about the baby! 
So she'd need to make up 2 beds at work.
Somebody's going to find the sweet little baby sleeping in a drawer, right?

Whether or not the writers have thought through these logistics depends a lot upon their own experiences with childcare and rearing.

Edited September 23 by shapeshifter

[DMK]

9 hours ago, Annber03 said:

Morgan explaining the two main reasons anyone would go to that one town were funny

The shots of the actors sliding fully clothed down the hepatitis water slide cracked me up.

[Raja]

39 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

 

Whether or not the writers have thought through these logistics depends a lot upon their own experiences with childcare and rearing.

Given that city provided child care was part of her negotiations to accept the consultancy job I am guessing they have thought of the comedic possibilities at least.

[Johannah]

Please, no, with the neighbor having his own angst backstory/problems.  I like the COTW and get annoyed with the characters always having something in their past that interferes and just has to be resolved.  I've accepted that Morgan wants to find out what happened to her first child's father because I enjoyed the show so much, but don't want it to get bogged down in that or to add any other angst arcs.  

Sometimes people are just average with average problems that don't deserve a subplot.  Like me.  I'm boring.  You don't want a subplot about me.

[chaifan]

5 hours ago, DMK said:

The shots of the actors sliding fully clothed down the hepatitis water slide cracked me up.

Those were funny snippets.  But, the thing that comes to my mind when shows do these types of shots, is how much work they put in for less than 10 seconds of screen time.  Both the water slide and karaoke snippets were probably a day of shooting each.  And then the set up time, edit time, etc.  It's effective, it was funny, it adds to the show.  But that's a lot of work (and money) for those itty bitty scenes.

[shapeshifter]

6 hours ago, Raja said:

Given that city provided child care was part of her negotiations to accept the consultancy job I am guessing they have thought of the comedic possibilities at least.

Oh. Right. I forgot about the childcare deal. These days quality daycare is available if you can afford it, but I wonder if the writers know that.

[Annber03]

1 hour ago, Johannah said:

Please, no, with the neighbor having his own angst backstory/problems.  I like the COTW and get annoyed with the characters always having something in their past that interferes and just has to be resolved.  I've accepted that Morgan wants to find out what happened to her first child's father because I enjoyed the show so much, but don't want it to get bogged down in that or to add any other angst arcs.  

Sometimes people are just average with average problems that don't deserve a subplot.  Like me.  I'm boring.  You don't want a subplot about me.

Oh, yeah, I agree with you that it'd be nice for him to just be a friendly support system for Morgan, someone who's not mixed up in whatever mysteries they'll have on this show. 

Just that I won't be surprised if the show does go that route, is all. 

[butterbody]

I couldn't get over how much Kaitlyn looked like Elizabeth Hurley 

[agathapenny]

The promos made this look pretty bad so I had no expectations — and I was happily surprised! I liked this a lot. The main actress is really good and easily carries the role, and I like the supporting players as well. As others have said, it's a nice change of pace to have a woman genius consultant instead of a man. 

I didn't actually see the missing ex plot coming, so I'm very curious about where that will go. I think the daughter not being a genius and feeling left out has the potential for some poignant family moments.

So yeah, I pretty much liked everything about this. 

[Tachi Rocinante]

I liked it enough, but this kind of premise can get stale quick.  My thoughts:

• I'm a sucker for quick cutaways, and these were well done.
• Shopping cart on a public bus?
• Regarding the station being empty, all they needed was a throwaway line about night shift being on a different floor. (Wasn't it like that on Brooklyn 99?)
• Her IQ should be more around 170 with the way she is able to retain and process information. High potential actually starts at 130, which is nowhere near what she is able to do. (You'll have to trust me on this).
• And finally, why the fuck does she dress like a hooker with no taste? People with half her IQ do a better job. At least take the Einstein approach and remove the decision from the equation.

[shapeshifter]

18 minutes ago, Tachi Rocinante said:

Her IQ should be more around 170 with the way she is able to retain and process information. High potential actually starts at 130, which is nowhere near what she is able to do. (You'll have to trust me on this).

Yep. This has been bugging me too.
But, to be fair, this bit of too-fast, Gilmore Girls-esque, exposition-fairy dialog revealed it's not just her IQ:

• [MORGAN] It's a high IQ. We get it. Can I go now?
• [LIEUTENANT] I know a lot of really smart people.
  They're not you.
• [MORGAN] The technical term is "High Potential Intellectual."
  It means you have advanced cognitive abilities, intellectual creativity, photographic memory, stuff like that.
  But I don't know. I've just always been this way.
• [LIEUTENANT] So it's some sort of a gift?
• [MORGAN] No, not a gift.
  I obsess over every little problem I see.
  My mind is constantly spinning out of control, which makes it impossible to hold a job, relationship, a conversation. Not a gift.

Hopefully they'll reiterate that it's not just high IQ in other episodes, and do it in a more organic way. Like maybe have some higher IQ guest character who gets put in their place by Morgan's methodology. 

 

[Chit Chat]

54 minutes ago, Tachi Rocinante said:

And finally, why the fuck does she dress like a hooker with no taste?

I think they're going after the Erin Brockovich style, sans the low cleavage.  "They're called boobs, Ed."  

I'll give the show a try.  I've never seen the main actress before, but her character seems likeable and all.  Worth a try!

[Tachi Rocinante]

Also, someone with her supposed high IQ would know there is no such thing as a photographic memory.  She would have used the term "eidetic".

[Raja]

22 minutes ago, Tachi Rocinante said:

Also, someone with her supposed high IQ would know there is no such thing as a photographic memory.  She would have used the term "eidetic".

Broadcast to your audience, not over it. Now maybe she underestimated the LT of one of the two top detective units in the county but that's all.

[PurpleTentacle]

Americans really need to remake everything, don't they? *shudders in Gracepoint*

I haven't seen this yet and am not sure if I will, but I can very much recommend the original "HPI: Haut Potentiel Intellectuel". The first three seasons were great. Sadly season 4 isn't finished and doesn't have a dub yet. Can hardly wait.

[Irlandesa]

On 9/23/2024 at 8:37 AM, chaifan said:

Does the French version of Morgan also make horrible fashion choices?  Or did they go polar opposite, and have her cleaning offices in vintage Dior and Channel?

Yes.

[PurpleTentacle]

I did watch it now. First of all I got to say, the french show was shot so much more interestingly. This was shot more like generic cop show #578 than a prestige TV show. Just as an example while Morgane is riding the bus in the original she is leaning on the window sill and there is a camera mounted to the outside of the bus, pointing back through the window, showing her face in thought, while having the right side of the shot being the street at night slightly out of focus, all the while Heavy Cross is playing. Great stuff. In the american version there is nothing of the sort. Just a shot of her from the isle, she is just tired and bored, never in thought and for some reason Heavy Cross is turned way down, so it doesn't even seem like we are hearing it on the headphones, like Morgane is.

The cleaning afterwards is also way less interesting and fun. They try to recapture it, but don't manage.

Actually let me put that opening scene here, to show what a different vibe it has. Sadly I don't have the first season in the best quality and the youtube compression makes it worse, but I think it serves its purpose.

 

Overall this wasn't exactly bad, but it lacks the spark of the original. This is more "generic cop show with quirky consultant" rather than anything special. I think I'll give it one or two more episodes. Maybe it will grow on me. But I kinda doubt it.

On 9/18/2024 at 11:26 AM, AnimeMania said:

I don't know why a woman would wear uncomfortable fancy dress shoes at night to work. Using public transportation she should have taken into account she might have to do more walking than planned. (As a man) I would think you would want to make yourself less attractive and more capable of running, so I would be wearing comfortable shoes and removing those shoes for another pair of comfortable shoes if you think those might be too dirty for walking on a clean floor while working.

A bus driver would not let you bring a store's shopping cart onto the bus, I am sure that might be considered keeping you commit a crime. Why was all the food falling out of the shopping cart, a tired trope that would seem the least likely in this particular situation.

These are all the perils of copying scenes from a french show. Public transport is much more reliable there and a bus driver won't give a fuck what you bring on the bus, as long as it doesn't get the bus dirty. Doesn't quite work with the US-setting.

Also her heels weren't as thin in the original. She actually didn't even switch her shoes before she started cleaning. She cleaned in heels. Which informs her character, I think. Weird choices by the american team here...

On 9/18/2024 at 12:44 PM, shapeshifter said:

The incongruity that jumped out at me was her bright blue fingernails after taking the teen daughter’s $4 lipgloss out of the shopping cart. Maybe we’re supposed to fanwank that she found the nail polish in the trash of an office where she was cleaning? Or did that happen and I missed it?

Yeah, the blue nails are new...

I also can't really buy the bird doing math like that...

On 9/18/2024 at 12:44 PM, shapeshifter said:

I was also taken out of the scene by the anachronous carburetor that needed replacing which was supposed to be why they were currently without a car.  

I can't speak for this show, since we haven't seen it yet, but in the original she is driving a super old car, that seems to be from the late 80s or early 90s and indeed still has a carburetor. I kinda suspect the writers won't pay enough attention to that in this show, but we shall see.

Not sure what car this is exactly, but you know it has a carburetor :D

On 9/18/2024 at 4:32 PM, possibilities said:

As a non-driver, for many years I used a shopping cart, but it was one I bought, not one I stole. You can buy them!

In my Uni-days we'd usually use a shopping cart from a supermarket but bring it back later. So borrowing, not stealing. After all that is how you get your Euro-coin back. 😆

On 9/18/2024 at 4:32 PM, possibilities said:

I found the hostility of the detective she was partnered with annoying. Yes, it's a trope. They varied from it by having the boss like her, and I think they are setting it up to be a gender-based issue (the women vs the dudes), but I guess we'll see if that holds.

He was extremely hostile. Another trope the original did not fall into. #notmyKaradec

In the original he also doesn't treat her super well in the beginning, but he isn't agressive, just irritated, because let's face it, Morgane can be a lot.

On 9/18/2024 at 4:40 PM, shapeshifter said:

Yes. I detest these kinds of angst-filled long story arcs, especially when there's a Big Bad involved. Maybe this show will do better with the long arc, but I'm not holding my breath for it.

minor spoilers, maybe. spoiler tag just to be safe:

Spoiler

If they copy the original, the storyline has a good payoff and there isn't a big bad.

 

On 9/18/2024 at 7:19 PM, babyrambo said:

I haven’t seen the lead in anything else

Oh, you really should watch some It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia. You are either going to love it or hate it, but everybody should have tried it at least once.

On 9/18/2024 at 11:57 PM, anniebird said:

I was confused by the "all churches face East" thing. In my town, all the churches, no matter the denomination, face North or South because the major streets all run East/West. Did I miss something in her explanation?

Nah, just another thing they copied straight from the french show and didn't check if it's the same in the US...

On 9/23/2024 at 3:37 PM, chaifan said:

Does the French version of Morgan also make horrible fashion choices?

French Morgane objectively speaking dresses worse, but on the other hand, her outfits somehow work for her, in a way that they decidedly do not for Kaitlin Olson.

Edited September 25 by PurpleTentacle

[Yeah No]

I didn't think I was going to like this as much as I did and sat through it again a second time with my husband who liked it too. In some ways this is kind of like an "Elsbeth" on Steroids except in L.A. and with a completely different type of quirky character with an exceptional ability. I am not familiar with anything else it might resemble. At first I saw a surface nudge and wink to "The Cleaning Lady", although that was short-lived.

It's nice to see Javica Leslie again. She played Miles' sister in "God Friended Me".

As to churches facing East, it is a thing but not always literally. There is real East and if that's not possible there's "Liturgical East", which in very basic terms means "It's East if we say it's East". So a church that can't face directional East on a particular spot calls it's front door "The East Entrance" even though it faces West, etc. It's primarily a thing in the Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican/Episcopal churches that follow a similar liturgical tradition. And it is more common in cathedrals.

As to that station wagon above, that's the at one time ubiquitous Volvo 240 wagon which had a 20 year run from the early 70s through the early 90s. It became the favorite "station car" which is a car commuters drive to the train station. Many suburbanites in Fairfield County, CT and uber-rich people drove them around town who were from "old money", LOL.

I'm thinking that the fact that her car needs a carburetor is just because it's that old. It's probably not a Volvo 240 wagon, although that would be cool. I'm hoping it's some kind of retro '70s muscle car, LOL.

I think it's obvious that she doesn't just have an exceptional mind, she's also quirky and not always what you might expect. I don't get the feeling she's on the spectrum as far as what used to be called "Asperger's" but she definitely has trouble sustaining personal relationships. In m experience most of the people I've met anything like her were very introverted and socially awkward so she doesn't fit that mold either, although a couple of female examples kind of come close, and one did have a kind of provocative sense of style that seemed out of character. She may also be a rare combination of "high potential intellectual" and someone with high emotional intelligence because she also seems to understand human feelings and motivations to an advanced degree and has good interpersonal skills. That also wouldn't necessarily guarantee that people are going to love her, though, in fact that can also come along with a tendency to not being able to sustain interpersonal relationships.

I have known people that can do math like that in their heads, although maybe not that fast. If I had a bone to pick I'd pick I'd pick on how she's a little too fast at what she does. I can do a little of that but never on her level, LOL. It does feel a little unrealistic that she could be that fast. There is a lot about this I'm finding somewhat unrealistic but I'm ignoring it for now because it has a lot going for it so far. I hope that continues! I'm not usually one for procedurals anymore but I do like one with a twist and a female lead so I'm in for now.

[AnimeMania]

1 hour ago, PurpleTentacle said:

She actually didn't even switch her shoes before she started cleaning. She cleaned in heels.

I don't know how you missed it since they clearly show her changing her shoes from red knee high boots to white tennis shoes and showed her feet multiple times while she was dancing.

[astrohip]

10 hours ago, Yeah No said:

It's nice to see Javica Leslie again. She played Miles' sister in "God Friended Me".

Nice catch! Terribly under-rated show.