S18.E4. Not My Cup of Tee

[StevieRocks]

It was nice to see someone call out Madame Puppet. Woah doggy, was she mad! I know she put a lot into writing that imbecilic script of herself and Miss Terry on the balcony as two zoo apes in the "looking out over all we survey" scene. 🙄 Also very classy to try to monetize your huzzbin's stroke. No one thinks you're classy. You are a Z-list Bravolebrity, Madame Puppet. Keep digging for gold and clomping around giving out 'shamps' like the rube that you are.  You're a clown on a ho-wives show. Sorry, Madame Puppet--you're in the same league as Jenn, GrandMAW Tamrat, and Vicki. No different.

[Palimelon]

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I would watch that. BH is a whole ‘nother universe. Erika would call out that poseur in a heartbeat. Heather is a big fish in a little pond on OC. 

But I'd also love to see Heather show up on RHONJ for like a month. Maybe Heather and Luanne from RHONY. God that would be hilarious.

[Pi237]

1 hour ago, la patineuse said:

Most of the other HWs on these franchises would be hard pressed to be as evil as Tamara including Heather. Although, I think some of the gaslighting she has done has a tinge of evilness; I find gaslighting and playing (to put it euphemistically) with someone's mental health particularly pernicious. 

Yes! I forgot about her go to 'I think she's having a psychotic break' For a woman to do that to another woman, knowing the history of how women's concerns were brushed off as 'hysteria' etc That was evil. And she tried a lighter version about Katie 'what's wrong with her? Is she obsessed with me?'

I definitely think Katie had that in her pocket to stand out this season, was probably coached by production to bring it up,earn her Orange so to speak.  But I have no doubt Heather ignored her at the party, then googled her like crazy when she got home , hence the accidental photo tag.  Still, her proof is weak. Its a stupid argument, so hopefully it won't be dragged to death all season. but it will lol

Vickie is so gross, and should've stopped a few faces ago. I don't like to pick on someone's looks, but these shows are a great reminder that just getting old and wrinkled is often a better alternative to endless surgery.  Basically, if you can't get JLo's surgeon, don't do it.

[snarts]

2 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

Gina, who started all of this shit by not making sure Jenn could afford rent. Is all of this worth it, Jenn? If I were her I’d be rethinking about re-upping for another season —  if Bravo doesn’t make that decision for me.

Wait, so Gina held a gun to Jenn's head and made her rent a house she couldn't afford? It seems to me that Jenn purposely misrepresented her budget and signed a contract she didn't honor.  Is it also the car salesperson's fault that she defaulted on the Range Rover and the yoga studio's landlord's fault that she owes $144k in back rent?

She herself posted about being evicted on social media and she's seemingly learned nothing from it so I have zero sympathy. No way she'd exit the show voluntarily, it's her only income (especially when her new wallet is up to his ears in a financial scandal). How else would she pay for all the glam? Oh wait, Daddy.

Heather's never bothered me. She is haughty and over the top pretentious, and that's so desperately needed to balance out the utter trashiness of Tamrat. Plus, she's actually wealthy unlike the rest of them.

Was this an 100% Alexis free episode? I sure didn't miss her.

 

Edited August 2 by snarts
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[RoseAllDay]

2 hours ago, StevieRocks said:

It was nice to see someone call out Madame Puppet. Woah doggy, was she mad! I know she put a lot into writing that imbecilic script of herself and Miss Terry on the balcony as two zoo apes in the "looking out over all we survey" scene. 🙄 Also very classy to try to monetize your huzzbin's stroke. No one thinks you're classy. You are a Z-list Bravolebrity, Madame Puppet. Keep digging for gold and clomping around giving out 'shamps' like the rube that you are.  You're a clown on a ho-wives show. Sorry, Madame Puppet--you're in the same league as Jenn, GrandMAW Tamrat, and Vicki. No different.

Right up there with calling the paps to make sure they got  “caught” coming out of the restaurant and Disney World, as they posed whistfully looking off into the distance, dreaming of their next mansion.

I used to like Heather, but damn. You can have wealth without making a show of it.  

24 minutes ago, snarts said:

Wait, so Gina held a gun to Jenn's head and made her rent a house she couldn't afford? It seems to me that Jenn purposely misrepresented her budget and signed a contract she didn't honor.  Is it also the car salesperson's fault that she defaulted on the Range Rover and the yoga studio's landlord's fault that she owes $144k in back rent?

She herself posted about being evicted on social media and she's seemingly learned nothing from it so I have zero sympathy. No way she'd exit the show voluntarily, it's her only income (especially when her new wallet is up to his ears in a financial scandal). How else would she pay for all the glam? Oh wait, Daddy.

Heather's never bothered me. She is haughty and over the top pretentious, and that's so desperately needed to balance out the utter trashiness of Tamrat. Plus, she's actually wealthy unlike the rest of them.

Was this an 100% Alexis free episode? I sure didn't miss her.

 

Gina should have made sure Jenn was good for it. Gina, as a Realtor, should not have discussed Jenn’s situation publicly. Not defending either of them here.

Yes. Alexis did us all a favor and was MIA.

(I posted on this earlier but didn’t see it.)

[Palimelon]

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as they posed whistfully looking off into the distance, dreaming of their next mansion.

Don't forget a PA holding a small wind machine to get the breeze just right.

[bravofan27]

I definitely think Heather and Terry staged the photos at Disneyland (and paid for them, since no one is going to show up for them IMO without getting paid, because how much are those pictures worth?). It was right at the time that there were cheating rumors about Terry, and they wanted to show a united loving front at a family-oriented location, they only got press for those photos (IMO) because there was news about Terry cheating. https://pagesix.com/2022/10/03/heather-and-terry-dubrow-cozy-up-in-public-amid-cheating-rumors/

Heather loves being in the news. She's always orchestrating her own press. Whether it be using her children or husband. In all cases, she looks like the martyr. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2023/06/23/heather-dubrow-real-housewives-lgbtq-kids/70339599007/

https://people.com/terry-dubrow-says-wife-heather-saved-my-life-after-mini-stroke-7597739

Jenn was useless this episode.  Why is there no furniture or "things" in Ryan's house?

Tamra likes Emily because Emily is all ready to focus 100% on selling Tamra. Now she is a fan of Tamra's "drink" and Tamara needs someone that will call out Heather.

Edited August 2 by bravofan27

[Cosmocrush]

3 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Jenn was shown again with her glam person. Did she really need the professional makeup for the golf event?

But the best part was Jenn complaining to the makeup artist that COFFEE was too expensive, lol.   .

 

 

 

 

[QQQQ]

Very minor nitpick in the long (long) list of Tamra's issues, but did anyone else catch how she pronounced Whitesnake by emphasizing "snake"? 

[Wicked]

I do not care if Heather called the paparazzi, please please stop talking about this. Paparazzi-gate is not interesting. And who doesn't try to find info on a new co worker??  I will totally facebook stalk a new coworker or ask mutual friends about them. Who doesn't want to know about the person they will be working with?? I like Katie, I like Heather, and I will like them both more if they get along

[oakville]

21 hours ago, la patineuse said:

Why is Heather on RHOC? Seems like she's really jonesing to be on RHBH.

I could see Heather joining RHOBH after buying a home in Beverley Hills.

[Cosmocrush]

41 minutes ago, oakville said:

I could see Heather joining RHOBH after buying a home in Beverley Hills.

I think that was a big part of why they bought the house; I mean Terry's practice is in OC and two of their kids were still in high school.  It certainly wasn't for her non existent acting career, unless she counts being a HW an acting job.

[Tiggertoo]

I’m confused and probably didn’t pay close attention,  but where do Heather and Terry live?  They have the BH house but are renovating it,  and don’t live there yet, right?  They have the penthouse apartment but it’s not big enough for the kids and they’re renting it to someone else?  Also, Heather said one place is a glorified closet. Is there a third place?

 

And omg, this paparazzi photo thing is a total yawn fest.   I literally couldn’t care less.

[RoseAllDay]

5 hours ago, Tiggertoo said:

I’m confused and probably didn’t pay close attention,  but where do Heather and Terry live?  They have the BH house but are renovating it,  and don’t live there yet, right?  They have the penthouse apartment but it’s not big enough for the kids and they’re renting it to someone else?  Also, Heather said one place is a glorified closet. Is there a third place?

 

And omg, this paparazzi photo thing is a total yawn fest.   I literally couldn’t care less.

Next to Drake.

ADD: Wasn’t intended to sound snarky, apologies. It’s somewhere in BH. At least this week. 

I looked at her Insta and there’s a shot of her and Terry walking away from the old mansion — defenitely not posed, LOL — and asking what everyone’s favorite memory of Chateau Dubrow is. Sigh. She really needs to work on her self-esteem.

I know a lot people would be thrilled to live in a “glorified closet.” There is no gratitude nor humility. All in-your-face ostentation. She will never be satisfied with anything.

I think that’s why I really don’t like them anymore. 

Edited August 3 by RoseAllDay

[QQQQ]

8 hours ago, Tiggertoo said:

I’m confused and probably didn’t pay close attention,  but where do Heather and Terry live?

Heather's Homes (as of July 2024)

[Neveragain]

Uh oh.  I’m starting to get that RHONJ feeling.  The feeling that not only has this show gotten boring but it’s actually upsetting and this infighting and snarking are not fun little scrapes but actual mean sh*t that I find stressful to watch.  When it gets like that for me I DO stop watching!  Sadly I’m about at that point.  I thought I would like Katie but she’s trying way too hard too fast and her gotcha moment is really not that big a deal.  And what has happened to Emily?  That peeing in the bushes was revolting, she wouldn’t use the toilet in the house because then she’d have to meet Katie’s family?  If I were Katie I would care about that a lot more than if Heather staged a photo op.  Even though I feel for her, Shannon needs to find something else to talk about other than John Jansen. And Tamra, girl, enough. 

[Mindthinkr]

15 hours ago, snarts said:

Was this an 100% Alexis free episode? I sure didn't miss her.

Gee, I guess I didn’t either because until you said that I didn’t remember that she’s back on the show 😂

[Chatty Cake]

The episode was better without Jesus Jugs 2.0. How pathetic that John Jansen is suing Shannon. The man seems to want to terrorize her and it’s sad that Bravo is allowing this crap to play out.

[Cosmocrush]

21 hours ago, ZettaK said:

The Disney photo was ridiculously and obviously staged. But it's not a serious offense.

Exactly! So why did Heather vehemently deny it?  If she had just laughed it off and owned it no one would be trying to  show she was lying..  But instead, she doubled down,  swore on the lives  of her kids  and attacked Katie for crying out loud.  Come on Heather, do better.

[la patineuse]

5 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

Exactly! So why did Heather vehemently deny it?  If she had just laughed it off and owned it no one would be trying to  show she was lying..  But instead, she doubled down,  swore on the lives  of her kids  and attacked Katie for crying out loud.  Come on Heather, do better.

This is spot on.  Heather is the one HW on this franchise that is authentically wealthy, but she's such a phony is so many other ways. She can only tolerate people seeing her as perfect even with the most trivial aspects of her life.

[Palimelon]

It says something that one of the few times I've seen Heather as being "real" was when she actually drank her champagne straight out of the bottle after they sold the house last season. Yeah, it's her drinking an expensive drink while selling a home for tens of millions of dollars, something the majority of people will never experience, but for a second she actually seemed to say "Fuck proper etiquette, or having the correct glass or making sure the champagne is chilled correctly, I'm happy and I want my drink NOW".

Is it something of a paradoxical observation? Maybe. But for a brief second Heather actually seemed human, or at least more human than she usually comes across.

[Pi237]

56 minutes ago, la patineuse said:

This is spot on.  Heather is the one HW on this franchise that is authentically wealthy, but she's such a phony is so many other ways. She can only tolerate people seeing her as perfect even with the most trivial aspects of her life.

But, she admitted she likes hotdogs! See-she's just like us! 

I usually like Emily, but she's really dialed up the drinking this season, and it makes her mean and obnoxious. 

I agree about the Jersey comparison to a point. That show has been unwatchable to me for years. Their past seasons have been re-airing this week, and every time I check in, its Theresa, Joe & Melissa with bigger lips and tighter faces, surrounded by cheap clones of the OG cast members all fighting about  'Family's all that matters!' Orange County isn't there yet, thankfully, but it's starting to knock on that door.

[ladle1]

On 8/1/2024 at 10:24 PM, Stats Queen said:

That being said, she’s on a real housewives show where women spend money whether they have it or do not have it.

i feel like Jenn is pushing some buttons for Gina.

I go back and forth on how I feel about Jenn. On one hand, grown-ass helpless women who have relied on men their whole lives are a real trigger for me. And obviously, Jenn publicly living the life she does (glam, Vegas, nice car) when she's just been evicted is like holy bad optics, Batman!! So a big part of me is like, oh my God, woman, ditch that pile of Ed Hardy vomit, pack up your kids, move them back to Oklahoma, and get a job with a temp agency. But, on the other hand, is that the most sound financial decision? She'll probably earn a lot more by staying where she is and appearing on this show than she would as a low-wage worker (which is what she'd be, since she doesn't appear to have much of a work history) or earning $50 per yoga class. It's like when people would critique Jon & Kate for putting their kids on TV. Like, yes, on one hand, I really have a problem with kids being filmed for reality TV. They can't consent, and it can be very exploitative. On the other hand, what was their other option? Raise eight kids on their regular salaries minus massive childcare costs? I also wonder if Jenn is getting her glam comped? It wouldn't shock me if there were folks willing to do that for free for the exposure and Jenn just can't say that because of the fourth wall.  

I digress. 

On an unrelated note, I want to like Katie but she's coming across as too thirsty too early. I'm surprised she didn't cross-examine Sutton about her small esophagus. 

[ladle1]

I like to rag on Heather as much as the next person, but … it doesn’t really seem like she’s done anything wrong here? 

Like, *maybe* she called the paparazzi, or more likely had her assistant call them or whatever (maybe Terry called them? Who knows!), but it’s also possible that she and Terry saw the paparazzi were there and *then* started posing. 

Also, if you’re on a show like this and you hear about a new cast member coming on, OF COURSE you’re going to Google them and snoop on their Instagram and ask your mutual friends what they’re like. A lot of us race to the internet when we learn about new cast members, and we’re not even on the show! She’s scoping out social media photos, not hiring Bo Dietl to sift through Katie’s tax returns. 

In summary: SHRUG. 

[ladle1]

On 8/1/2024 at 9:48 PM, Stats Queen said:

I’m with you and I hope she finally met her match. 
I’m befuddled by why these other women are so scared of Heather, unless it is pure envy for her wealth.

 

The “Oooh you don’t want to mess with Heather” shtick is also super weird when they themselves spent all last season going after Heather. 

Tamra is the one I would never, ever want to mess with, as she has zero boundaries or loyalty. 

[Mr. Miner]

At least Katie remembered the bottle of Dom Heather brought her.

[ladle1]

On 8/2/2024 at 1:43 AM, Audpaud said:

Emily has hitched herself to the wrong nag. Tammy Sue is despicable, on and off the bar.

She is, but that’s why the hitching makes sense! Tamra has no qualms about absolutely obliterating you if you cross her. It’s like aligning yourself with a gang boss in prison. No, you don’t agree with what he’s doing, but it’s self preservation. 

[JAYJAY1979]

On 8/2/2024 at 11:09 AM, Pi237 said:

Oh yeah she's a snotty bitch,but I don't think she's scary. Shes not clever or good at burning people. She just kicks everyone out or leaves after repeating herself , Or acts better than everyone else.  But I wouldn't walk away feeling like she won the fight.  I'd be more afraid of Tamra because she'll turn on you on a dime and use things you've told her against you. Heather will snub you or look down on your cheap clothes, but Tamra will befriend your worst enemy and help her destroy your life. 

 

It's why I just love that Shannon.. of all people.. has managed to piss Tamra off.   That's partly why Tamra has an almost obsessive hatred for Shannon.. because she can't believe that she was outwitted by someone that she considers 'weak'.

[ladle1]

On 8/2/2024 at 7:21 AM, Lisa418722 said:

Heather and Terry are D List Celebrities. There is no reason for the paparazzi to be following them unless they call.  I remember laughing at the picture taken at Disneyland because (a) I don't see them going to Disneyland for a fun day and (b) that picture was totally posed.  I'm sure Heather did not call the paparazzi herself, but she told one of her assistants to call and let them know when they are at Disneyland, whatever restaurant, etc.  

Genuine question: are Heather and Terry big enough celebs that the paps would drive all the way out to Anaheim just to get some photos of them? Isn’t that pretty far from where they usually congregate?

Also ew to Katie being friends with the Leader of the Paps. Paparazzi are truly despicable and have no boundaries or decency. (So… a possible career pathway for Tamra if the THC business doesn’t take off?)

[QQQQ]

How much would (cheesy) photos of Heather and Terry fetch? Neither is a recluse; they'd attend the opening of an envelope if it meant getting their names in the press or provided an opportunity to promote a show or product.

[Cosmocrush]

1 hour ago, ladle1 said:

I like to rag on Heather as much as the next person, but … it doesn’t really seem like she’s done anything wrong here? 

Like, *maybe* she called the paparazzi, or more likely had her assistant call them or whatever (maybe Terry called them? Who knows!), but it’s also possible that she and Terry saw the paparazzi were there and *then* started posing. 

Also, if you’re on a show like this and you hear about a new cast member coming on, OF COURSE you’re going to Google them and snoop on their Instagram and ask your mutual friends what they’re like. A lot of us race to the internet when we learn about new cast members, and we’re not even on the show! She’s scoping out social media photos, not hiring Bo Dietl to sift through Katie’s tax returns. 

In summary: SHRUG. 

The coverup is always worse than the crime.

[bravofan27]

9 hours ago, Palimelon said:

 

Is it something of a paradoxical observation? Maybe. But for a brief second Heather actually seemed human, or at least more human than she usually comes across.

Whenever Heather makes that face-- the sneer type of glare with impatience and annoyance, and her mouth downturns, it's the real Heather. 

Heather also made a point to act like she didn't know Katie's husband at the golf event-- even though she said she looked them up on social media to "know who she might be working with" so she could learn more about them and their family. Also, she saw Katie with him at Sutton's Christmas party. Katie said she snubbed both her and her husband.  At the golf event, Katie said, "This is my husband, did you know that?" Heather is like, No! I didn't know. And then she purposely called him them wrong name to Tamara and Tamara corrected her on his correct name. Super fake. 

Edited August 4 by bravofan27

[ladle1]

9 hours ago, QQQQ said:

How much would (cheesy) photos of Heather and Terry fetch? Neither is a recluse; they'd attend the opening of an envelope if it meant getting their names in the press or provided an opportunity to promote a show or product.

Oh I fully believe that’s true! I just don’t know whether the paps would drive all the way out to Anaheim just to photograph Heather and Terry. I’m not saying they wouldn’t, but I truly don’t know. Would it be financially worth it for them? This is not Taylor Swift.

[Chatty Cake]

15 hours ago, ladle1 said:

I go back and forth on how I feel about Jenn. On one hand, grown-ass helpless women who have relied on men their whole lives are a real trigger for me. And obviously, Jenn publicly living the life she does (glam, Vegas, nice car) when she's just been evicted is like holy bad optics, Batman!! So a big part of me is like, oh my God, woman, ditch that pile of Ed Hardy vomit, pack up your kids, move them back to Oklahoma, and get a job with a temp agency. But, on the other hand, is that the most sound financial decision? She'll probably earn a lot more by staying where she is and appearing on this show than she would as a low-wage worker (which is what she'd be, since she doesn't appear to have much of a work history) or earning $50 per yoga class. It's like when people would critique Jon & Kate for putting their kids on TV. Like, yes, on one hand, I really have a problem with kids being filmed for reality TV. They can't consent, and it can be very exploitative. On the other hand, what was their other option? Raise eight kids on their regular salaries minus massive childcare costs? I also wonder if Jenn is getting her glam comped? It wouldn't shock me if there were folks willing to do that for free for the exposure and Jenn just can't say that because of the fourth wall.  

I digress. 

On an unrelated note, I want to like Katie but she's coming across as too thirsty too early. I'm surprised she didn't cross-examine Sutton about her small esophagus. 

Good summary about Jenn. They can rag on her for not working but doing the show is a job.  Her posting from Vegas was funny. She’s evoking outrage from Gina and Emily.  Yes, she could at least act like she wants to get her shit together but as you mentioned, what kind of job can she get that will be more lucrative than the show?

I kind of like Katie. Did she need to call out Heather? No but it’s a good way to hit the ground running as a new housewife. Plus it gave me a chance to laugh at that ridiculous photo of Heather pointing out something to her adoring husband.

Edited August 4 by Chatty Cake

[QQQQ]

Were any of the HWs leery about a newbie who has a "dear friend" with close connections to all of the paparazzi and the ability to get inside dirt with just one call? My guess is that's a quid pro quo friendship. I know they all play the pap game to different degrees, but Katie is an unknown factor at this point.

[heatherchandler]

13 hours ago, QQQQ said:

How much would (cheesy) photos of Heather and Terry fetch? Neither is a recluse; they'd attend the opening of an envelope if it meant getting their names in the press or provided an opportunity to promote a show or product.

I think they probably pay a PR company to get them into magazines, online, etc.  Like InTouch (sometimes I’ll skim it!) has D list celebs in clearly staged photos.  I’m thinking the PR people pay intouch or whatever brand they are showing off does.  “Here’s Derek Hough going into pinkberry!”  
 

The best is the “Dubrows at Craig’s” video.  They are so confused, no one takes their pic at first, then they pretend to be looking for their car, then the paps get Heather confused with Heather McDonald.  It’s funny.

[bravofan27]

2 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

kind of like Katie. Did she need to call out Heather? No but it’s a good way to hit the ground running as a new housewife. Plus it gave me a chance to laugh at that ridiculous photo of Heather pointing out something to her adoring husband.

Maybe Heather was pointing to Katie and Matt-- "Honey, do we know them? Is that Krystal and John?"

[ZettaK]

On 8/3/2024 at 8:02 AM, QQQQ said:

Heather's Homes (as of July 2024)

The Dubrows were renting (or taking up a place like she mentioned because it sounds more posh) at the Balboa Bay Club in Newport Beach for the three or four months the show filmed. 

[Pattycake2]

I have no problem with Heather checking out Katie. These women aren’t her friends and she has been the one they picked on the last two seasons. The way she asked Tamra what was going on and then went over to talk to Katie with her arms folded across her chest looked like she was just getting ready to find out what was going on again this season. The paparazzi thing is weird. Who the heck cares.

The Gina and Travis situation really bugs me. They’ve been a blended family for four years and now Gina says I choose my family not our family? I can’t help feeling bad for those kids. A divorce is a very hard thing for children. Gina has been acting as a surrogate mother all this time and now she’s abandoning them. When they see this episode, they’ll know that.  If Travis was making more money, how would Gina feel if he didn’t think of her kids  as one family and to share what they have?  If I was Travis, I definitely break up with Gina. She doesn’t love him enough or his kids enough to continue.

[Sweet-tea]

On 8/1/2024 at 8:43 PM, RoseAllDay said:

Who else is 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿waiting for the Heather-Katie showdown? It is absolutely hilarious to me that Heather is denying those cheesy photos were staged. 

It’s so good to see Fancy Pants on the defensive for a change.

Especially because it is difficult to believe Heather would do anything spontaneously. The woman scheduled her breakdown. 

On 8/1/2024 at 9:11 PM, bosawks said:

I’m finding this particular nonsense fight fun since I think they’re both being ridiculous but please don’t let it last all season.

Agree. It's a small thing to hang a show on. 

 

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I think Heather is splitting hairs. Maybe She didn’t call the paparazzi personally, but had an assistant do it. Love the gasp when she swore on her kids lives. 
 

My first thought when she said that was 'she had a staffer do it." My second was these women think nothing of swearing on their children's lives. Happens all the time. 

Heather and Terry are the most pretentious people on any of these shows. His "Look at our life" or whatever he said... nauseating, especially because I believe most everything we've seen from them is staged. 

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[Palimelon]

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Especially because it is difficult to believe Heather would do anything spontaneously. The woman scheduled her breakdown. 

Probably her bathroom visits as well.

[Chatty Cake]

I am curious about Travis not breaking up with her after kicking him out. You’d think a week without hearing that voice would be peaceful for him.

10 minutes ago, Palimelon said:

Probably her bathroom visits as well.

She mentioned that she doesn’t poop. She probably has a staffer do it for her.

[ladle1]

2 hours ago, Pattycake2 said:

I have no problem with Heather checking out Katie. These women aren’t her friends and she has been the one they picked on the last two seasons. The way she asked Tamra what was going on and then went over to talk to Katie with her arms folded across her chest looked like she was just getting ready to find out what was going on again this season. The paparazzi thing is weird. Who the heck cares.

The Gina and Travis situation really bugs me. They’ve been a blended family for four years and now Gina says I choose my family not our family? I can’t help feeling bad for those kids. A divorce is a very hard thing for children. Gina has been acting as a surrogate mother all this time and now she’s abandoning them. When they see this episode, they’ll know that.  If Travis was making more money, how would Gina feel if he didn’t think of her kids  as one family and to share what they have?  If I was Travis, I definitely break up with Gina. She doesn’t love him enough or his kids enough to continue.

I may be an idiot, because I truly don’t understand the point that Katie is making about the photo tagging. Why is it sinister that Heather accidentally tagged Katie in a photo even though they weren’t friends? I *thought* Katie was judging Heather for looking at Katie’s profile even though they weren’t friends (which, as you say, who cares?!). But then when Heather basically gave that explanation (“I had been looking through your profile”) it didn’t seem to satiate Katie. Am I a Gen X idiot here? What is Katie even accusing Heather of???

Gina is annoying, but I’m willing to believe that there’s other context we don’t know which explains her move. She alluded to something sinister with Travis’s ex, and if she needs to physically separate herself and her kids from that situation I don’t really blame her. That said, it’s rich that I’m extending grace and benefit of the doubt to Gina when Gina refuses to extend it to Jenn. 

[bravofan27]

I think she is doing better than Travis financially and doesn't want to pick up the tab for him and his kids. It's selfish, but it's OC and all her friends have men that have money. She doesn't want to support a man and his family. IMO, she's breaking up with him because he poor. Bye broke Travis!

[Cosmocrush]

1 hour ago, ladle1 said:

What is Katie even accusing Heather of???

She’s accusing Heather of straight snubbing (and her husband) even though she knows Heather knows who they were at some party.  Heather denying looking Katie up was dumb. Again, just own it Heather - we already know you think you are above everyone else.  🙄

[Rlb8031]

On 8/3/2024 at 8:02 AM, QQQQ said:

Heather's Homes (as of July 2024)

This doesn't answer the question though since Heather said the two youngest were in school in LA. Are they sharing a bedroom in the penthouse? Sleeping in a portion of the mansion while the rest is being renovated, or commuting daily from the OC to LA? Balboa Bay I thought was for Terry's convenience, not a family home.

[QQQQ]

Although there only two official bedrooms, I don't think I'll be kept up at night worrying if the two youngest Dubrows are sharing sleeping quarters in a 5,000 square foot luxury penthouse. 😅

Edited August 4 by QQQQ

[Sweet-tea]

Whatever Jenn is doing to her face, she needs to stop. Is it too much filler? In some scenes, her face looks lumpy and unnatural. 

I didn't miss Alexis this episode. But I thought too much was made of the Heather paparazzi story. Is that all they have for a storyline this season? Are you kidding me? How many of these HWs have called paparazzi? Big deal. They probably have them on speed dial. Heather should just own it and that would be the end of it. 

Katie wasn't divorced when she met her current husband. Hmmm... and she's judging Heather for calling paparazzi? 

I used to like Emily but something is different about her the past one or two seasons. I can't put my finger on it, but she has become All About Being on TV or something. When they show Shane, I feel relieved. 

The bar stuff was stupid. I was embarrassed for the staff.  

In a few of the scenes, Heather was showing her age. Nothing wrong with that actually. It was nice to see a woman in her 50s looking like she was in her 50s vs the weirdness of the ultra-tight faces we see on these shows all the time. 

I don't mean to sound snarky (ok maybe I do), but whenever I see Terry and Heather, find it hard to imagine that they have children together. I see absolutely no sexual chemistry between them, no matter how hard they try. I'm not buying it. 

Edited August 5 by Sweet-tea

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4 hours ago, ladle1 said:

I may be an idiot, because I truly don’t understand the point that Katie is making about the photo tagging. Why is it sinister that Heather accidentally tagged Katie in a photo even though they weren’t friends? I *thought* Katie was judging Heather for looking at Katie’s profile even though they weren’t friends (which, as you say, who cares?!). But then when Heather basically gave that explanation (“I had been looking through your profile”) it didn’t seem to satiate Katie. Am I a Gen X idiot here? What is Katie even accusing Heather of???

Gina is annoying, but I’m willing to believe that there’s other context we don’t know which explains her move. She alluded to something sinister with Travis’s ex, and if she needs to physically separate herself and her kids from that situation I don’t really blame her. That said, it’s rich that I’m extending grace and benefit of the doubt to Gina when Gina refuses to extend it to Jenn. 

Whatever is sinister about the ex, it didn’t stop Gina from sending her kids over during this episode.  I call shenanigans.

[JAYJAY1979]

5 hours ago, ladle1 said:

I may be an idiot, because I truly don’t understand the point that Katie is making about the photo tagging. Why is it sinister that Heather accidentally tagged Katie in a photo even though they weren’t friends? I *thought* Katie was judging Heather for looking at Katie’s profile even though they weren’t friends (which, as you say, who cares?!). But then when Heather basically gave that explanation (“I had been looking through your profile”) it didn’t seem to satiate Katie. Am I a Gen X idiot here? What is Katie even accusing Heather of???

Gina is annoying, but I’m willing to believe that there’s other context we don’t know which explains her move. She alluded to something sinister with Travis’s ex, and if she needs to physically separate herself and her kids from that situation I don’t really blame her. That said, it’s rich that I’m extending grace and benefit of the doubt to Gina when Gina refuses to extend it to Jenn. 

I don't extend grace to Gina... she's as big of moron as Jenn is.. just in a different way.

She lacks judgement and I certainly wouldn't trust her to be my realty.  She didn't do a credit check on Jenn, and then when it blew up in her face.. instead of just learning from the experience, she decides to put Jenn's business out there.  Totally unprofessional.

Also, she and Travis moved in together along with their kids when I have a feeling this situation with the ex isn't a new thing.  The only people hurt are their children that now they all have to adjust again because their parents basically suck as people.

Lastly... Heather is insecure and she's revealed her weak points (one of which Lydia found and used to good effect at the season 8 reunion) so it shouldn't be too difficult to 'take her down'.