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Jennifer is left feeling defenseless and abandoned; Teresa opens up to Gia about the stress she's facing from Louie's ongoing legal battle; Jen Fessler is left wondering if her friendship with Rachel can recover; Dolores plans a retreat.

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59 minutes ago, snarts said:

Why does the Fuda's asphalt driveway end four feet from the garage? 

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I didn't even notice that, but the entire front of their house is completely unfinished...no landscaping anywhere, beat up driveway, weedy-looking front lawn.  I wonder if they ran out of money adding another level to the original raised ranch house.  

I'm sorry, but their interior decor is just so blah...aside from the play room, the Fuda's house looks like bland, boring, basic model home, or something that was staged by a realtor to entice young buyers.  All white and black, no accent colors, no warmth - just a cold shell with some Wayfair-ish white furniture.  (Not that there's anything wrong with Wayfair....)

If I remember correctly, their shore house also has a very similar aesthetic.

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6 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

A retreat? Who won't show? I'll guess Melissa. 

I would agree with you - at first, I thought that Rachel would not show up, but she's even more hungry for screentime than Melissa is, so she'll be there.

So - Dolores found a house in the Berkshires - could it possibly be Dorinda's Bluestone Manor?  I read that it is available on AirBnB.  (Wonder if it comes equipped with a hostess who will "make it nice"?)

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3 hours ago, snarts said:

Why does the Fuda's asphalt driveway end four feet from the garage? 

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Bored with the show? 🤣

And yes, the exterior is unfinished. There is no landscaping either. I hope all of the interior is finished because we didn't see the whole house. 

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On 7/21/2024 at 10:16 PM, njbchlover said:

I would agree with you - at first, I thought that Rachel would not show up, but she's even more hungry for screentime than Melissa is, so she'll be there.

So - Dolores found a house in the Berkshires - could it possibly be Dorinda's Bluestone Manor?  I read that it is available on AirBnB.  (Wonder if it comes equipped with a hostess who will "make it nice"?)

It was not Dorinda's house, it was another house, but the women were supposed to visit Dorinda and film at Bluestone Manor, as well. It didn't happen because the house Bravo rented burned down a day before the trip, so the trip was canceled! I guess the season is going to end with the epic fight at Rails we saw in the season previews. 

https://people.com/rhonj-trip-was-canceled-after-berkshires-spot-burned-down-andy-cohen-says-8383992

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Joe Gorga is shorter than all his kids (Joey, the youngest is 14 now), and Melissa!

Louie won the court case regarding the restraining order. The judge said his ex was obsessed. She was even following the Giudice girls on social media.

The sleepover was boring, but at least there were not any serious fights, except for Danielle's dig at Jenn, and the cake. Danielle couldn't be more juvenile.

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7 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

Joe Gorga is shorter than all his kids (Joey, the youngest is 14 now), and Melissa!

Louie won the court case regarding the restraining order. The judge said his ex was obsessed. She was even following the Giudice girls on social media.

The sleepover was boring, but at least there were not any serious fights, except for Danielle's dig at Jenn, and the cake. Danielle couldn't be more juvenile.

Joe Gorga is shorter than some 4 year olds.

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I quite liked Rachel's  house. I  enjoyed  the women  getting  together and I didn't  miss Theresa at all. 

I knew Theresa looked way too thin  so I'm glad Delores  mentioned  it. I don't  care about  the court case, I still remember  the video of a red faced Louis, confessing  his love for someone on a  beach or a retreat,  long before  he met Theresa. 

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I'm sorry, but their interior decor is just so blah...aside from the play room, the Fuda's house looks like bland, boring, basic model home, or something that was staged by a realtor to entice young buyers. 

As Dominique Deveraux would say, it is showcase exquisite. Minus the exquisite part.

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A little off topic but I can’t stand. pajama parties. I could see if they were all on a trip and put their pajammies on but dressing up in pajamas has never appealed to me. I have always hated when work has pajama day. My pajamas are for my me time only. The slippers did look super cute and comfy. The food always looks good but between the Ozempic (Mounjaro?) and the stress, do any of them eat?

I was grossed out when Melissa brought up Joe Benigno’s pishadeel. How dumb is she?  I’m guessing if his PSA’s were high and he needed more testing, it was all resolved before filming. I can’t imagine asking someone with prostate concerns if their penis was bothering them.

Danielle is overdoing her fake fight with Jenn. She told Rachel she would behave and then shows up with that stupid cake. 

 

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So no reunion, no trip either, it's a shame Bravo is not keen on spending money on this franchise anymore.  

Marge would not shut up with all the insults at Fuda's party, she kept throwing lines out there and they were falling flat.

Did Danielle really make that cake? Who's eating that cake anyway?

I did not realize how large Fuda's house is but without landscaping it looks like they ran out of money, it was like that last season as well.

Speaking of landscaping, Joe Gorga cutting down that tree was odd, like just the one tree that Marge wanted taken down, she went so far as having trees planted but just that one tree needed to come down? Like you are going to pay several thousands of dollars to to landscape your yard and not have a dead tree taken down? Whatever, Gorga handled that tree like a pro.

Melissa was trying to start something asking Delores about Paulie and how they were doing as a couple and about the still un-named business or declared what business it is.

I did not miss Teresa at the PJ party and I do not care how stressed out she is AND I certainly do not care about Gia, her thoughts and her journey (since everything has to be a journey these days), to law school. Why is she so special? Thousands of kids apply to law school every year, let's see if she has what it takes to graduate. I guess it is why she is on camera so much, she is earning her tuition.

 

 

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Did anyone else see the Rao’s commercial starring Joey Gorga. Terrible they used him, especially after his “panties” Instagram. That used to be my favorite jarred sauce.

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15 minutes ago, Palimelon said:

TBH the idea of Joe Gorga and any sauce is not a pleasant one for me.

I thought it was a cute commercial, more believable that they use Rao's sauce than Marge using a colorist since she wears wigs daily. 

 

35 minutes ago, sheshark said:

That used to be my favorite jarred sauce.

I loved Rao's salad dressing, it was fantastic but I don't think they make it anymore😕

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41 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

So no reunion, no trip either, it's a shame Bravo is not keen on spending money on this franchise anymore.  

I can't help but wonder how much they've paid out to cover damages every time these women met in public, as well as reserving entire rooms to reduce the possibility of injuring innocent bystanders. They've shelled out plenty on this franchise

Which makes me wonder which HW franchise is the most destructive. I don't watch them all, but Jersey has to be top 3 if not the worst

 

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46 minutes ago, sheshark said:

Did anyone else see the Rao’s commercial starring Joey Gorga. Terrible they used him, especially after his “panties” Instagram. That used to be my favorite jarred sauce.

It can still be your favorite; don't late that doofus wreck everything, haha!

I don't use Instagram (and if I did, I wouldn't follow him) -- what was this post? Also, I hate the P-word! 

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11 hours ago, njbchlover said:

A retreat? Who won't show? I'll guess Melissa. 

Seems Melissa and Joe are getting more commercials.  Looks like Andy has plans for them.

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53 minutes ago, Mr. Miner said:

Season 5 is airing on Bravo today. Tre has been a vile piece of garbage for quite some time now.

A life long pattern of not admitting her wrongdoings and her campaign to break up Joe and Melissa has been there since the start, it is so glaringly obvious and sad.

Has anyone ever asked Teresa how she would like to see Joe's life if Melissa never was, like start from scratch, I'd be interested to hear her describe the woman he should have married, where he should live, etc...I bet she would describe some just like herself.

 

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1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

A life long pattern of not admitting her wrongdoings and her campaign to break up Joe and Melissa has been there since the start, it is so glaringly obvious and sad.

Has anyone ever asked Teresa how she would like to see Joe's life if Melissa never was, like start from scratch, I'd be interested to hear her describe the woman he should have married, where he should live, etc...I bet she would describe some just like herself.

 

OK, I'm game. Teresa probably wishes Joe would've prioritized his parents, especially as they got older and needed help. Instead, he got thrown out of college, borrowed money/tools, sold his parents house out from under them, earned a shady contractor/landlord reputation & jealously wormed his way onto the show and continually caused conflict to appease his wife.   

Oh, and she (and others) also likely wish he'd stop with the vomit inducing posts like this. (he posted it over the weekend. Finally deleted it today. Poor Antonia)

 

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3 hours ago, snarts said:

OK, I'm game. Teresa probably wishes Joe would've prioritized his parents, especially as they got older and needed help. Instead, he got thrown out of college, borrowed money/tools, sold his parents house out from under them, earned a shady contractor/landlord reputation & jealously wormed his way onto the show and continually caused conflict to appease his wife.   

Oh, and she (and others) also likely wish he'd stop with the vomit inducing posts like this. (he posted it over the weekend. Finally deleted it today. Poor Antonia)

 

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Aside from the fact that the text in that post is absolutely disgusting for anyone, let alone someone who is the father of teenage boys and a young adult woman, it looks like he has a sock in his pants to enhance his "pishadeel" area.  

In Jen Aydin's words....such a trashbox!!!  (can you say that about a man??)  

Joe Gorga's ego is beyond anything I've ever experienced - such a douchecanoe. 

Wonder if he'd be okay with Antonia dating someone who posted something like this.

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Bravo shouldn't start filming almost immediately after last season's disastrous reunion, but follow with the initial announcement of putting the show on pause. The division between the women wouldn't be solved between May and August, but Bravo probably wanted to film some drama, and test the waters. The result is an unwatchable season. 

Joe Gorga handled the tree cutting like a pro because like Marge said he used to be a landscaper before Joe Giudice helped him get into house remodeling/flipping- he picked fruit before all this according to Joe.

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15 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

I can't help but wonder how much they've paid out to cover damages every time these women met in public, as well as reserving entire rooms to reduce the possibility of injuring innocent bystanders. They've shelled out plenty on this franchise

Which makes me wonder which HW franchise is the most destructive. I don't watch them all, but Jersey has to be top 3 if not the worst

 

Destructive incidents in public places involving HWs.

Teresa's table flip, the fight at the Nashville restaurant, another couple of glass throwing by Jenn Aydin at Danielle Staub's wedding and at the Hamptons, and the finale fight at Rails we didn't see yet (but we have images of broken glassware from the previews). So, some dinnerware was broken. 

Atlanta had a few physical altercations, but there was no destruction as far I remember, except if Marlo's kick damaged a hotel room door.

Potomac had a couple, as well (Monique and Candiace's fight with glassware broken, and a fight involving Keirna hit with glassware),

Tamra threw wine at Gina on the OC, and Gina's male friend threw a glass at Tamra as she was leaving (it didn't hit her, but it bounced on the ground).

Kim Richards of Beverly Hills threw a glass on a table in Amsterdam, and it bounced, and broke by Lisa Rinna. 

Am I forgetting anything?

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I think the incident with Tamra/Jeana/the friend was at someone's house, not somewhere public, no?

Dallas had a couple of incidents too, with Leanne.

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I’m liking Jenn Aydin more this season. Her Danielle impression always makes me laugh. Luis seems to be in a perpetual state of anger. And he’s either expressing it, or repressing it and just barely reining it in with his SERENITY NOW mental health program. 
I’m getting too old for all the yelling on these shows.

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On 7/22/2024 at 6:51 AM, Chatty Cake said:

I was grossed out when Melissa brought up Joe Benigno’s pishadeel. How dumb is she?  I’m guessing if his PSA’s were high and he needed more testing, it was all resolved before filming. I can’t imagine asking someone with prostate concerns if their penis was bothering them.

I wonder how Joe felt about Margaret blabbing about his medical issues to all the women, especially because she was doing it mostly to get sympathy for herself. Everything must be about Margaret. 

I don't know where this show is going. The arc is weird this season, or maybe there is no arc and that's the problem. When is the finale?

I'm not understanding why the reunion was canceled. Yes, there are factions and fighting, but we see that on all the HW shows. What's different about this one? Are they refusing to be onstage together? Someone with the NJ tea please fill me in. 

I would not go to a pajama party with any of these women. I don't like the idea of it anyway. And didn't Rachel say they weren't sleeping over? So why do they need pajamas? 

No Tre, the black hair isn't flattering, despite what your friend said. You look harsh. 

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On 7/22/2024 at 7:25 AM, sheshark said:

Did anyone else see the Rao’s commercial starring Joey Gorga. Terrible they used him, especially after his “panties” Instagram. That used to be my favorite jarred sauce.

It would have been better if any of the Gorga's were better actors but it was cute.

On 7/22/2024 at 8:07 AM, SweetieDarling said:

I can't help but wonder how much they've paid out to cover damages every time these women met in public, as well as reserving entire rooms to reduce the possibility of injuring innocent bystanders. They've shelled out plenty on this franchise

Which makes me wonder which HW franchise is the most destructive. I don't watch them all, but Jersey has to be top 3 if not the worst

 

I don't watch them all either but, going by memory, in Jersey alone we've had Ashley pulling Danielle's hair, Teresa's table flip, Teresa shoving Andy, the two Joe's fighting at the christening, the two Joe's fighting at a cabin or something they were all at (where Gorga's spray painted hair got smeared everywhere), Melissa throwing cheese at Jen A, Jen A threw a plate and glass at Melissa, Danielle S pulling Margaret's hair, Margaret pushing Marty into a pool, some of them started throwing cake around (can't even remember who but I remember Siggy was very upset over it), Teresa throwing like 3 place settings worth of glasses and dishes at Margaret in Nashville, Jen A pushing Danielle C, Danielle C throwing a plastic cup at Jen A. There are probably more I'm forgetting.

On 7/22/2024 at 8:39 AM, kristen111 said:

Seems Melissa and Joe are getting more commercials.  Looks like Andy has plans for them.

I listen to Melissa's podcast sometimes. She has Joe on there quite a bit too where they chat about whatever. They've never said anything specific but I kind of get a vibe that there is something in the works for them (or maybe Melissa). If there is, it's possible that it's not even with Bravo, it could be another network or streamer. I don't think Melissa cares if she's off of RHONJ as long as she's moved on to another show of some sort. She'd probably be happy to not be on a reality show and just host a talk show or something.

19 minutes ago, Sweet-tea said:

I wonder how Joe felt about Margaret blabbing about his medical issues to all the women, especially because she was doing it mostly to get sympathy for herself. Everything must be about Margaret. 

I don't know where this show is going. The arc is weird this season, or maybe there is no arc and that's the problem. When is the finale?

I'm not understanding why the reunion was canceled. Yes, there are factions and fighting, but we see that on all the HW shows. What's different about this one? Are they refusing to be onstage together? Someone with the NJ tea please fill me in. 

I would not go to a pajama party with any of these women. I don't like the idea of it anyway. And didn't Rachel say they weren't sleeping over? So why do they need pajamas? 

I think the reunion was canceled because Bravo probably couldn't get the taping insured LOL. Only kind of kidding. I think Bravo was worried that it would bring to light Jen and Teresa feeding bloggers information, Jen sending episode screeners out, Margaret talking to Louie's ex, etc. Not that we all don't know at this point that not much happens with this group organically, they're together to film for a paycheck, but having all of that come out at the reunion would be a bad idea. Especially with all of the screeching that would inevitably happen. Although I do have a fix for that - tell them that every single time they talk over someone else their reunion check will be docked $1,000. Teresa alone would end up owing Bravo money!

Also I just have to say that I literally cannot stand Gia. I don't mind so much that she has adult conversations with Teresa at this point. Gia is an adult and is at the age where the parent/child relationship is hopefully evolving into more of a friend one. But Gia's voice, mannerisms, and attitude gets on my last nerve.

 

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17 hours ago, Palimelon said:

I think the incident with Tamra/Jeana/the friend was at someone's house, not somewhere public, no?

Dallas had a couple of incidents too, with Leanne.

Yes, the incident with Tamra, and Jeana was at a house. 

I was watching reruns of Jersey on Bravo this morning, and Joe Gorga threw a glass with wine at his sister at the Miraval retreat in Arizona. It didn't hit her, but it crashed on the ground. There are many incidents with Gorga banging his fist at tables, and having physical fights with people, starting with his first episode on the NJ HWs (the baptism). 

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3 hours ago, ww92 said:

It would have been better if any of the Gorga's were better actors but it was cute.

I don't watch them all either but, going by memory, in Jersey alone we've had Ashley pulling Danielle's hair, Teresa's table flip, Teresa shoving Andy, the two Joe's fighting at the christening, the two Joe's fighting at a cabin or something they were all at (where Gorga's spray painted hair got smeared everywhere), Melissa throwing cheese at Jen A, Jen A threw a plate and glass at Melissa, Danielle S pulling Margaret's hair, Margaret pushing Marty into a pool, some of them started throwing cake around (can't even remember who but I remember Siggy was very upset over it), Teresa throwing like 3 place settings worth of glasses and dishes at Margaret in Nashville, Jen A pushing Danielle C, Danielle C throwing a plastic cup at Jen A. There are probably more I'm forgetting.

I listen to Melissa's podcast sometimes. She has Joe on there quite a bit too where they chat about whatever. They've never said anything specific but I kind of get a vibe that there is something in the works for them (or maybe Melissa). If there is, it's possible that it's not even with Bravo, it could be another network or streamer. I don't think Melissa cares if she's off of RHONJ as long as she's moved on to another show of some sort. She'd probably be happy to not be on a reality show and just host a talk show or something.

I think the reunion was canceled because Bravo probably couldn't get the taping insured LOL. Only kind of kidding. I think Bravo was worried that it would bring to light Jen and Teresa feeding bloggers information, Jen sending episode screeners out, Margaret talking to Louie's ex, etc. Not that we all don't know at this point that not much happens with this group organically, they're together to film for a paycheck, but having all of that come out at the reunion would be a bad idea. Especially with all of the screeching that would inevitably happen. Although I do have a fix for that - tell them that every single time they talk over someone else their reunion check will be docked $1,000. Teresa alone would end up owing Bravo money!

Also I just have to say that I literally cannot stand Gia. I don't mind so much that she has adult conversations with Teresa at this point. Gia is an adult and is at the age where the parent/child relationship is hopefully evolving into more of a friend one. But Gia's voice, mannerisms, and attitude gets on my last nerve.

 

I think that the melee at little Joey's Christening celebration warranted a lawsuit for damages from the place it was held at. And from the country club where Teresa, Ashley, and Danielle Staub fought, but I don't think there were actual physical damages there (except for Danielle's weave). 

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On 7/22/2024 at 5:21 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

I did not miss Teresa at the PJ party and I do not care how stressed out she is AND I certainly do not care about Gia, her thoughts and her journey (since everything has to be a journey these days), to law school. Why is she so special? Thousands of kids apply to law school every year, let's see if she has what it takes to graduate. I guess it is why she is on camera so much, she is earning her tuition.

I would actually love to see Gia graduate from law school. And I would also love to see Caroline Manzo's face when that happens given how she bragged about Albie being in law school, before he was asked to leave.  She was always so self-righteous. 

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8 hours ago, ZettaK said:

the Miraval retreat in Arizona.

That place should be used to The Fighting Housewives, Bravo has been there plenty and the Miraval staff should know to use the poly carbon glassware when they seen HW's roll up.

 

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There have also been several physical incidents on Atlanta and a big one on Potomac. I think the tone was set for NJ in the first season when Tre flipped a table and was basically praised for it. She still brags about it. Remember Lisa Rinna's freak out with the wine bottle on BH? Many of these women cannot control themselves. And often they're fueled by alcohol. (The other day I read one of the former NY women is suing Andy saying he contributed to her alcohol problem and encouraged her to drink.)

Gia irritates me too. 

Not sure how they can salvage this show. This episode wasn't great. 

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7 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

There have also been several physical incidents on Atlanta and a big one on Potomac. I think the tone was set for NJ in the first season when Tre flipped a table and was basically praised for it. She still brags about it. Remember Lisa Rinna's freak out with the wine bottle on BH? Many of these women cannot control themselves. And often they're fueled by alcohol. (The other day I read one of the former NY women is suing Andy saying he contributed to her alcohol problem and encouraged her to drink.

You know what’s funny/sad?  When Teresa flipped the table it was so shocking at the time.  Now, something like that would be considered tame.  Everything is so over the top now.  Now as far as the NY HW suing Andy (I’m thinking that might be Leah?), that’s absurd.  These ladies know what they are getting into.  They are not children or even young adults.  They are full grown women.  There have been women who have been asked multiple times to be on NY and probably the other franchises as well and they have declined.  If you have an addiction or a problem with alcohol, or if you value your private life, don’t go on the show.  Period. 

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Honestly it seems like most of the women (not all, but most) who want to be on the show are there for 2 reasons (and honestly has been so for a long while now):

1) They really want that D-list level of celebrity.

2) They have a business they think the show will provide good exposure and free marketing for.

Both of which can be parlayed into social media accounts where they can shill products on, thus providing a further revenue income stream.

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1 hour ago, mostlylurking said:

 Now as far as the NY HW suing Andy (I’m thinking that might be Leah?), that’s absurd.  These ladies know what they are getting into.

Not only do they know what they are in for Leah had two seasons on the show then she accepted the invite to be on the Ultimate Girls Trip...she lost her credibility. 

 

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19 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

There have also been several physical incidents on Atlanta and a big one on Potomac. I think the tone was set for NJ in the first season when Tre flipped a table and was basically praised for it. She still brags about it. Remember Lisa Rinna's freak out with the wine bottle on BH? Many of these women cannot control themselves. And often they're fueled by alcohol. (The other day I read one of the former NY women is suing Andy saying he contributed to her alcohol problem and encouraged her to drink.)

Gia irritates me too. 

Not sure how they can salvage this show. This episode wasn't great. 

The episode was boring. Few comments here, and some are about earlier seasons.

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On 7/22/2024 at 7:21 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

So no reunion, no trip either, it's a shame Bravo is not keen on spending money on this franchise anymore.  

Marge would not shut up with all the insults at Fuda's party, she kept throwing lines out there and they were falling flat.

Did Danielle really make that cake? Who's eating that cake anyway?

I did not realize how large Fuda's house is but without landscaping it looks like they ran out of money, it was like that last season as well.

Speaking of landscaping, Joe Gorga cutting down that tree was odd, like just the one tree that Marge wanted taken down, she went so far as having trees planted but just that one tree needed to come down? Like you are going to pay several thousands of dollars to to landscape your yard and not have a dead tree taken down? Whatever, Gorga handled that tree like a pro.

Melissa was trying to start something asking Delores about Paulie and how they were doing as a couple and about the still un-named business or declared what business it is.

I did not miss Teresa at the PJ party and I do not care how stressed out she is AND I certainly do not care about Gia, her thoughts and her journey (since everything has to be a journey these days), to law school. Why is she so special? Thousands of kids apply to law school every year, let's see if she has what it takes to graduate. I guess it is why she is on camera so much, she is earning her tuition.

 

 

I'm sick of Gia and her commentary on everything too.  Either make her a Howife, or get her to shut it.  Nobody cares what Gia thinks about anything.

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2 hours ago, goofygirl said:

I'm sick of Gia and her commentary on everything too.  Either make her a Howife, or get her to shut it.  Nobody cares what Gia thinks about anything.

Obviously Bravo cares. It is the editing that gets her included.

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On 7/28/2024 at 10:59 AM, Doublemint said:

How many more episodes?  Thanks.  BORING!

One more. The season finale is next Sunday.

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On 7/26/2024 at 3:46 PM, Palimelon said:

Honestly it seems like most of the women (not all, but most) who want to be on the show are there for 2 reasons (and honestly has been so for a long while now):

1) They really want that D-list level of celebrity.

2) They have a business they think the show will provide good exposure and free marketing for.

Both of which can be parlayed into social media accounts where they can shill products on, thus providing a further revenue income stream.

Reason 3- They have a tax bill or some other debt that needs a large lump sum cash infusion. They do the show, pay the bill and bounce.

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