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Well as long as we are talking about Le Comte, Bear McCreary shared this bit of info in his blog.

 

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Shortly after arriving in France, Claire crosses paths with a corrupt merchant and courtier, the Comte de Saint-Germain.  . . . The Comte ignited my imagination, because he provides our first glimpse into the gilded, often ostentatious, world of the Parisian courts. Doing some quick research on the character, I learned he was inspired by a real-life historical figure. The true Comte de Saint-Germain was a prominent figure in European high society during the mid-1700’s, and was known to dabble in the arts, sciences and music, having composed, among other pieces, many sonatas and arias.

Wait? This intriguing character was a composer in real life?! I had to take advantage of this rare opportunity.  I called up my music historian, Adam Knight Gilbert, and we discussed the Comte and his surviving musical output. I asked Adam if he could dig up a handful of the Comte’s most famous and memorable melodies, with hopes I could incorporate one into my score. . . .  Adam ran to the USC Music Library and sent me a few examples of the Comte’s writing. I was struck by one theme in particular, a melody drawn from a composition by the Comte, called “Se mai riviene.” For the purposes of the series, I would use this melody as The Comte Theme.  As the character makes his entrance, his theme is performed by an ornamented duet of viola da gamba and harpsichord.

- See more at: http://www.bearmccreary.com/#blog/blog/outlander-season-2-begins/

So the music you hear when le Comte enters the warehouse was actually composed by the real-life Comte de Saint-Germaine.  How cool is THAT?

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  On 4/13/2016 at 9:36 PM, atomationage said:

I don't know if this is the right thread because of all the spoiler bars, but is this Count of St. Germain supposed to be THE Count of St. Germain or Chelsea Quinn Yarbro's Count of St. Germain, or did Gabaldon just like the name?. 

 

 

I believe this is the Compte St. Germain Gabladon based her Compte on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_of_St._Germain

He was a composer, occultist and also claimed to have lived 500 years. 

 

 

ETA: Or what Athena said. Serves me right for not noticing there was another page.

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  On 4/14/2016 at 12:24 PM, DittyDotDot said:

I believe this is the Compte St. Germain Gabladon based her Compte on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_of_St._Germain

He was a composer, occultist and also claimed to have lived 500 years. 

 

 

ETA: Or what Athena said. Serves me right for not noticing there was another page.

 

If you read "The Space Between," a novella about

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, you also find out more about the Comte than you do in the main books.

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Oh yes.  

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ETA:  marialeia you might need to spoiler tag your question.

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  On 4/20/2016 at 2:16 PM, WatchrTina said:

Oh yes.  

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ETA:  marialeia you might need to spoiler tag your question.

Thanks.

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I’m new to the books – almost done with DIA.  I have a question re/the Comte.

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  On 5/19/2016 at 7:36 PM, Wouldofshouldof said:

I’m new to the books – almost done with DIA.  I have a question re/the Comte.

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Are you sure you want to know the answer?

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Thanks DIttyDotDot.  I've been careful with my spoilers.  If they start to go into territory that I don't want to know about, I stop reading, but I'm OK with knowing other things.  Since I'll be bereft after this season ends and I'm a voracious reader, I've decided to plow ahead with the books while waiting for S3.  I know I'll still enjoy the shows even though I'll be 100% spoiled at that point!

  On 5/22/2016 at 11:48 PM, riverheightsnancy said:

Ok, I am getting THUMPED in the no book forum for saying that there is no way in Hell that Gellis is Clarie's daughter, and I have listed a bunch of reasons, mainly, I just don't see it in the way that Gellis interacted with Clarie on the show.  I feel like I am correct,  Am I correct?

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If you really want to know:

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  On 5/23/2016 at 12:09 AM, riverheightsnancy said:

Last question-Gellis: 

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  On 5/23/2016 at 2:18 PM, greekmom said:

For the book readers in regards to Master Raymond.  Does he show up in any of the other books? Is he a relation to Claire or any of the other time travelers? And from which time period does he come from?

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Aww, Master Raymond! ;) 

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  On 5/23/2016 at 2:31 PM, DittyDotDot said:

Aww, Master Raymond! ;) 

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  On 5/23/2016 at 3:36 PM, peacefrog said:

Master Raymond

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Read Space Between after Echo before MOBY.

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Oh yeah, forgot to mention that. Thanks @peacefrog!

ETA: Also, interesting about Master Raymond. I'll have to go search out these snippets. I love Master Raymond and have been eagerly anticipating seeing him again.

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  On 5/23/2016 at 3:34 PM, CalamityBoPeep said:
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I don't remember where I read it, but I did read that bit. Probably Facebook.

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Master Raymond

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Read Space Between after Echo before MOBY.

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I just happened upon this a couple weeks ago, when I was looking for more info about Master Raymond. (I haven't read "Space Between" yet. I need to get on that, considering I'm on my 3rd reading of the main book series.) From character FAQ on Diana's website:

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  On 5/23/2016 at 7:18 PM, zoey1996 said:

In the episode Faith, when Claire goes to ask for Jamie's release from the Versailles, I thought the palace looked like the one that eventually became the Louvre, but there was mention in the thread about Versailles.  Where does the encounter take place?

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He's not being held in the Versailles. He's in the Bastille. Versailles is the palace, and the Bastille was the fort, which is in Paris.

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  On 5/23/2016 at 7:18 PM, zoey1996 said:

In the episode Faith, when Claire goes to ask for Jamie's release from the Versailles, I thought the palace looked like the one that eventually became the Louvre, but there was mention in the thread about Versailles.  Where does the encounter take place?

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In the book,

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I don't know what they were trying to convey on the show--I'm really far behind.

  On 5/23/2016 at 11:32 PM, GHScorpiosRule said:

He's not being held in the Versailles. He's in the Bastille. Versailles is the palace, and the Bastille was the fort, which is in Paris.

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  On 5/23/2016 at 11:38 PM, toolazy said:

I think that Zoey meant that Claire goes to Versailles to petition Louis to free Jamie from the Bastille, but the building didn't look right to her. 

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Yes, I wrote Versailles but meant Bastille.  And yes, I thought the building was the palace that became the Louvre, but I'm uncertain.  Thanks!

Here is my question for book readers, as I've only gotten through the 1st.

 

Is there any way Jack Randall and Frank could be the same person? In a weird time warpy way? Frank couldn't have babies, and BJR just got his balls cut open. Frank saw Jamie outside, so he clearly can see some sort of magic. Maybe at that moment, or something screwy, he ended up back in time and was BJR? Or in his time in the military when they were apart? I'm reaching, but I had that thought the other night. I'm hoping to read the books soon.

I was wondering about Leary (can't spell the actual and can't figure how the pronunciation relates to that spelling, but anyway), is it true that she is not that involved in the witch trail as noted in Season 1? If not, who was?

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The witch trial in the books plays out a bit differently than it did on screen. 

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