Except Chelsea (and Cole)

[Mkay]

3 minutes ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

South Dakota is one of the states that recognizes grandparents' rights to visitation.

If Chelsea was interested in terminating those, she is probably doing herself a disservice by continuing to allow the Linds to see Aubree on a regular basis as that sets a precedent. I don't think she's interested in terminating their visitation, but she's aware of their inability to set boundaries with Adam. She might be biding her time until she has documented evidence of them violating the conditions.

For you ladies who have issues with your in-laws...have you ever visited "DWIL Nation" on Babycenter community boards? I learned a lot from them when Mr. Guilfoyle and I got married. They have lots of input and resources. Also a lot of cray, but just throwing it out there. 

I haven’t. I try to forget mine exists. She’s done enough mental damage on myself and my husband.  We cut her out of our life 8 yrs ago after she assaulted me.  I have a total panic attack if I see her.  She showed up at my last job and asked for me. When I turned around and saw her my entire body started shaking.  I told my pharmacist (I worked at a pharmacy) that’s her.  They knew exactly who I meant.  By the time the pharmacist went to tell her to leave she was gone. It took a long time to regain my composure.  Psycho!! It would take days to write about it all. 

[CaliforniaLove]

I'm not married, but my sister's MIL is batshit too. I think it has been probably 4 or 5 years since they've had contact with her at this point. Fortunately she lives in another state & couldn't care less to contact them, or check in on her grandson. 

[Mkay]

1 hour ago, CaliforniaLove said:

I'm not married, but my sister's MIL is batshit too. I think it has been probably 4 or 5 years since they've had contact with her at this point. Fortunately she lives in another state & couldn't care less to contact them, or check in on her grandson. 

I feel for her.  Thank goodness she doesn’t live nearby. Mine lives a few miles away. My daughter says when she turns 18 we can move away. Hahaa she wants to finish school with her friends.  I’m so ready. 

Edited June 6, 2018 by Mkay

[Kazu]

I am so sorry that a lot of you are having to deal with some batshit crazy relatives, particularly in-laws.

@Mkay that shit is crazy!

[Grandma Saracen]

I was at the optometrist's today, and as the optician and receptionist were helping me pick out new frames, we started talking about how frames go in and out of style. I told them I watched a show with a young girl wearing aviator frames, and they both laughed, incredulous. It's an interesting choice, and not one I would have predicted. 

[druzy]

[Maharincess]

She looks so good these days. They make such a cute couple. 

[FairyDusted]

Yup. She looks healthy and happy. Can't ask for much more than that. Love really shows!

[Rachel51]

On 6/5/2018 at 12:13 PM, Booger666 said:

Question for those of you in the legal field.  I’ve always heard that grandparents don’t have any legal rights, but the Linds have one weekend per month.  Do grandparents have visitation “rights”?  Is it just Chelsea being agreeable?  Something else?

She shouldn't interfere with Adams parents visitation with Aubree. Aubree has said she doesn't really see Adam. The constant bringing up Adam and drama about him is to keep her on the show because other than that, there is nothing interesting about her. What upsets me about her is that she changed Aubree last name to her husband last name but still want And think he should pay child support. Let Cole take care of her. What happens if Cole and her doesn't make for the long haul.

[Calm81]

4 hours ago, Rachel51 said:

She shouldn't interfere with Adams parents visitation with Aubree. Aubree has said she doesn't really see Adam. The constant bringing up Adam and drama about him is to keep her on the show because other than that, there is nothing interesting about her. What upsets me about her is that she changed Aubree last name to her husband last name but still want And think he should pay child support. Let Cole take care of her. What happens if Cole and her doesn't make for the long haul.

?

Just because a child gets a different last name doesn’t mean her father gets off Scott free from his obligations. Aubree wanted to share her mother and Watson’s name. She’s with them 99.98% of the time - nothing wrong with that considering Adumb called Aubree a mistake. The least he can do is pay the very minimal amount of child support the court has ordered since he hasn’t helped with raising Aubree.

Furthermore, Chelsea has said that adumbs parents have lied to her and allowed Adumb to be around Aubree and even drove her in his car when he wasn’t allowed to. His parents don’t follow rules and I see where Adumb gets it from.

Finally, if Cole and Chelsea get a divorce I still see Cole being more of a father to Aubree than Adam EVER was...just like Javi is with Isaac. 

Edited June 12, 2018 by Calm81

[CaliforniaLove]

5 hours ago, Rachel51 said:

She shouldn't interfere with Adams parents visitation with Aubree. Aubree has said she doesn't really see Adam. The constant bringing up Adam and drama about him is to keep her on the show because other than that, there is nothing interesting about her. What upsets me about her is that she changed Aubree last name to her husband last name but still want And think he should pay child support. Let Cole take care of her. What happens if Cole and her doesn't make for the long haul.

"Let Cole take care of her?". Ummm, I think Chelsea would be just fine on her own. You know, it being 2018 & all. And maybe Adam's shit-for-brains parents can pony up the $160 a month to cover the obligation of THEIR vagina hair-do'ed mistake. 

[BitterApple]

8 hours ago, Rachel51 said:

She shouldn't interfere with Adams parents visitation with Aubree. Aubree has said she doesn't really see Adam. The constant bringing up Adam and drama about him is to keep her on the show because other than that, there is nothing interesting about her. What upsets me about her is that she changed Aubree last name to her husband last name but still want And think he should pay child support. Let Cole take care of her. What happens if Cole and her doesn't make for the long haul.

I think the name was hyphenated not totally switched to DeBoer. I agree that Chelsea should've waited a little longer before taking that step, but I guess if she and Cole ever divorce Aubree will be old enough to keep it or drop it and just go back to Lind. 

[ghoulina]

12 hours ago, Rachel51 said:

She shouldn't interfere with Adams parents visitation with Aubree. Aubree has said she doesn't really see Adam. The constant bringing up Adam and drama about him is to keep her on the show because other than that, there is nothing interesting about her. What upsets me about her is that she changed Aubree last name to her husband last name but still want And think he should pay child support. Let Cole take care of her. What happens if Cole and her doesn't make for the long haul.

First, she didn't completely drop Adam's name. She is still a Lind. She's just now a Lind-DeBoer, which I'm sure makes her happier considering she's in a house full of DeBoers. I am the only child between my mom and dad. My mom remarried when I was 3 and they had 3 kids. I ALWAYS felt left out, because I lived with them full time and was the only one with a different last name. I think this was a good compromise for all involved. 

Second, Adam helped create her. Period. No matter what name she has, he is responsible for her financially. Cole has, and will, take care of her. In fact, Adumb is currently over $10,000 in arrears for back child support. They don't need his freaking money. It's the principal of it. 

At any rate, CS was set up long ago. It was ADUMB who brought the issue back up, by going to court to reduce it. IMO, if he would sign away his rights entirely (something he callously talked about doing back when his daughter was just days old), I'd let the CS go. But, as it is, he claims to want a relationship with her. So why should he get to see her and not help take care of her? 

Adumb's parents can't be trusted. Granted, Adumb isn't around much (thank God), but they HAVE ignored court orders and let Adumb take Aubree places on his own. For that, I'd cut them off entirely. 

[Rachel51]

1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

First, she didn't completely drop Adam's name. She is still a Lind. She's just now a Lind-DeBoer, which I'm sure makes her happier considering she's in a house full of DeBoers. I am the only child between my mom and dad. My mom remarried when I was 3 and they had 3 kids. I ALWAYS felt left out, because I lived with them full time and was the only one with a different last name. I think this was a good compromise for all involved. 

Second, Adam helped create her. Period. No matter what name she has, he is responsible for her financially. Cole has, and will, take care of her. In fact, Adumb is currently over $10,000 in arrears for back child support. They don't need his freaking money. It's the principal of it. 

At any rate, CS was set up long ago. It was ADUMB who brought the issue back up, by going to court to reduce it. IMO, if he would sign away his rights entirely (something he callously talked about doing back when his daughter was just days old), I'd let the CS go. But, as it is, he claims to want a relationship with her. So why should he get to see her and not help take care of her? 

Adumb's parents can't be trusted. Granted, Adumb isn't around much (thank God), but they HAVE ignored court orders and let Adumb take Aubree places on his own. For that, I'd cut them off entirely. 

First of all my comment wasn't about making Adam right or an Angel because yes he has problems. Second we don't really know what's going on between Adam, his parents and Chelsea, you only hear what Chelsea say and from watching the show this season there's lying coming out of both sides of the mouth from all of them. A last name is important and means a lot to be taken away. Imo I don't believe Adam is taking Aubree off from his parents because I tend to believe Aubree when she say she doesn't see him. He's too busy doing his thing to even bother with her to put her in danger. As I was saying in order to stay on the show we have to keep the Adam drama going. Every week its something about Adam, I can tell from Cole face, he's tired of hearing about Adam. Maybe she should terminate all Adam's right's but I still think she would expect child support.

[GleamingMist]

I believe Aubree asked about being a DeBoer, it's not like Chelsea insisted on the change.  I agree it's a good compromise to hyphenate the name if Aubree was in favour.  My mom remarried when I was 2 and it sucked having every single person in the house with a different last name than I.  They always talked about hyphenating my name but never did.  Maybe I'm projecting a bit but I get where they were coming from and think it was the right call.

I think Chelsea would forget about the child support if Adam would sign away his parental rights.  They don't need his money, but he created that girl too, if he isn't signing away rights then he should definitely be responsible for providing for her financially. 

[Mkay]

Also just saw this. 

https://radaronline.com/photos/adam-lind-debt-taxes-after-arrest-teen-mom-2/

[snarts]

1 hour ago, Rachel51 said:

First of all my comment wasn't about making Adam right or an Angel because yes he has problems. Second we don't really know what's going on between Adam, his parents and Chelsea, you only hear what Chelsea say and from watching the show this season there's lying coming out of both sides of the mouth from all of them. A last name is important and means a lot to be taken away. Imo I don't believe Adam is taking Aubree off from his parents because I tend to believe Aubree when she say she doesn't see him. He's too busy doing his thing to even bother with her to put her in danger. As I was saying in order to stay on the show we have to keep the Adam drama going. Every week its something about Adam, I can tell from Cole face, he's tired of hearing about Adam. Maybe she should terminate all Adam's right's but I still think she would expect child support.

She can't terminate his rights.  He would have to voluntarily sign off and we know he's not giving up what little control he has.  His parents did allow him to visit Aubree at their house Easter weekend (and he was stupid enough to post it on Instagram) in direct violation of the visitation order.  That's after their visitation was reduced to just one weekend/month last Fall (what's airing now).  Adam's' recently been arrested for assault/stalking and hangs out with/filmed with people recently arrested for meth.  Chelsea is doing what she can through the courts to protect Aubree. His parents need to stop enabling him and also focus on what's best for Aubree.

His child support order was $160/month and he's $10k in arrears so the DeBoers certainly aren't counting on him to finance their lifestyle.  

[ghoulina]

2 hours ago, Rachel51 said:

First of all my comment wasn't about making Adam right or an Angel because yes he has problems. Second we don't really know what's going on between Adam, his parents and Chelsea, you only hear what Chelsea say and from watching the show this season there's lying coming out of both sides of the mouth from all of them. A last name is important and means a lot to be taken away. Imo I don't believe Adam is taking Aubree off from his parents because I tend to believe Aubree when she say she doesn't see him. He's too busy doing his thing to even bother with her to put her in danger. As I was saying in order to stay on the show we have to keep the Adam drama going. Every week its something about Adam, I can tell from Cole face, he's tired of hearing about Adam. Maybe she should terminate all Adam's right's but I still think she would expect child support.

Again, the name WASN'T taken away. It was hyphenated. 

Also, Chelsea may be many things, but nothing she's ever said about Adumb has been proven to be a lie. And I'm pretty sure that his parents violating court orders is a verified fact and not just something Chelsea is claiming.

[Guest]

The tone of this thread is getting way too heated and several posts have been removed. Do not attack other posters for having an opinion different than your own—regardless how unpopular you think those opinions are. Time to move on from the conversation about Adam's child support/grandparent visitation/Aubree's last name/parental rights termination.   

[druzy]

I can't get enough of this:

[badhaggis]

1 hour ago, druzy said:

I can't get enough of this:

I know! I love how animated he is!

[druzy]

[druzy]

This is a parody David Eason twitter account. 

Edited June 15, 2018 by druzy

[BitterApple]

Lol, Randy. Chelsea was banging Adam right up until she met Cole, so spare me with the "she didn't settle" nonsense. 

[druzy]

[druzy]

[druzy]

This is from 2011 Aubree and Chelsea singing. They sound great! 

This is a cute throwback:

[druzy]

Another baby on the way

 

[FairyDusted]

Awwwwwssss! I love them. Even the Flagwear . Cole must have a hell of a collection but at least he's a great guy and easy to buy for. Watson is adorable! Aubs too!

[druzy]

[Mkay]

Two picture.  Click arrow on right. 

[druzy]

[druzy]

[Maharincess]

Wow.  That's very impressive. I think I got a girl stiffy watching that.  Can you imagine what a deck built by David would look like?  

[CalicoskiesNC]

My 55yo happily married self didn't really need to watch that, like 15x, lol. Nice work. 

[badhaggis]

8 hours ago, druzy said:

Okay so what do we think UBT is going to "build" now. Didn't he make that awesome fort of sticks to compete with the beautiful crib Cole made for Watson?

[druzy]

[Brooklynista]

10 hours ago, Maharincess said:

Wow.  That's very impressive. I think I got a girl stiffy watching that.  Can you imagine what a deck built by David would look like?  

I bet we're going to find out.  It'll be the next project on The Land. 

[ghoulina]

Cole is the younger, preppier version of my husband. I love how handy he is! 

[zenme]

6 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

Cole is the younger, preppier version of my husband. I love how handy he is! 

That's such an attractive quality for me in a man. It makes me feel safe.

[ghoulina]

6 minutes ago, zenme said:

That's such an attractive quality for me in a man. It makes me feel safe.

Same here. My husband just built me a pergola for the backyard in between jobs. He also single-handedly built our vacation cabin. He's in HVAC by profession, but he constantly amazes me what other skills he can pick up - carpentry, plumbing, electric. I do feel I could rely on him a lot in a SHTF scenario. 

[NannyBails]

1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

Same here. My husband just built me a pergola for the backyard in between jobs. He also single-handedly built our vacation cabin. He's in HVAC by profession, but he constantly amazes me what other skills he can pick up - carpentry, plumbing, electric. I do feel I could rely on him a lot in a SHTF scenario. 

Can I rent his carpentry/handyman skills, please?   :-)

[BitterApple]

I like Chelsea's hair better without the extensions. All that extra hair in the "after" makes her look horsey.

[Mkay]

25 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I like Chelsea's hair better without the extensions. 

Me too. 

[Maharincess]

5 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Same here. My husband just built me a pergola for the backyard in between jobs. He also single-handedly built our vacation cabin. He's in HVAC by profession, but he constantly amazes me what other skills he can pick up - carpentry, plumbing, electric. I do feel I could rely on him a lot in a SHTF scenario. 

What is SHTF?

[druzy]

2 hours ago, Maharincess said:

What is SHTF?

I need a reference sheet for all of these initials. As per Google SHTF=Shit Hits the Fan. 

[Maharincess]

28 minutes ago, druzy said:

I need a reference sheet for all of these initials. As per Google SHTF=Shit Hits the Fan. 

Same here.  I'll never understand why it's so hard to type out an entire word. It only takes a second. 

I'm not speaking of any particular poster, just in general. 

[alexa]

Cracks me up how much Cole accomplishes while working and helping with his family while David has nothing to do and pretends to throw some sod on his land and other similarly unsuccessful projects. Lol

[galaxychaser]

I’m happy that Chelsea found someone decent.

[Mkay]

1 hour ago, druzy said:

I need a reference sheet for all of these initials. As per Google SHTF=Shit Hits the Fan. 

I had to google it, too. I feel old. Hahaha