S11.E7 Written In The Stars

[ZettaK]

The group begins to mend their friendships; Lala expresses her desire to become a mother again; Scheana cries to Lisa about her insecurities with Ariana; Sandoval is forced to recognize he may never get closure with the woman he loves.

Not my description.

First aired on 3/12/2024

Edited March 13 by ZettaK

[FlyingEgret]

Honestly I would rather they talk about the hot bartender Sheana tapped in '06 too...

[bosawks]

I’m sure that Sandoval wanted Rachel to leave treatment for herself and not to share her load of the negativity.

He would never put his needs above the mental health of another…..

[bosawks]

Ha, the waiter’s disdainful look at Sandoval makes him the automatic winner of the episode. 

[snarts]

Lala telling Ariana she's wrong for expecting her best friend to avoid hanging out with the man who did her dirty is so fucking hypocritical. Remember Rand? Remember threatening Schwartz because he dared play pickleball with him? 

Point blank, it all stems from jealousy. Scheana & Lala are mad about the attention/fame/offers/$$ coming Ariana's way. They are literally green with envy. 

Katie for the win. She & Stassi clocked who he was years ago.

Edited March 13 by snarts

[FlyingEgret]

Sandoval: "it's been 15 years since I was single and dating around"

Asshole

[bosawks]

I actually think Katie hates them all, including herself.

[JenE4]

Alli doesn’t like Jo because she moved in with Schwartz like a minute after he and Katie got divorced. Um…kind of like you and James 6 weeks after he and Raquel ended their engagement. But, holy smokes, what is wrong with Jo?’?! All of these faces and gestures and loud-ass comments, she seems like she’d fit in with that group of redneck/blue-collar comics that were big in the 90s. Total Larry the Cable Guy vibes, with a little Jim Carey/Mike myers mugging thrown in.

MVP once again to Anne, the poor assistant in the Sandoval-Maddix household who, upon hearing that Sandvoval was going to emote piped up, in private, right? How many rants on both sides has this woman had to endure? Set those boundaries, Anne!

[Gharlane]

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"Written In The Stars".  The group begins to mend their friendships; Lala expresses her desire to become a mother again; Scheana cries to Lisa about her insecurities with Ariana; Sandoval is forced to recognize he may never get closure with the woman he loves.

I'm going to have to watch this again because I was bored and forgot the comments I was going to make. I am getting tired of Katie and Arianna being bitter bitches, but I was amused at them talking about being "frozen out" of the group when they've been doing it fine on their own.

 

The "later this season" trailer at the end did not make me interesting in watching the rest of this season.

[whydoievencare]

Tom Sandoval has the most whiny voice in the entire world.  In fact, he's the biggest whiner in the world.  Well, perhaps tied with Scheana.

[Emmeline]

Perhaps Jo went to stay with Tom because he was in a bad headspace between his divorce and Scandoval.  Then they occasionally hooked up.  I’m sure Schwartz hadn’t had sex in a long time.

Since when was Scheana best friends with Arianna?  I don’t think that “best friends” is what Arianna was thinking.  Did Sandoval say that Rachel told him sometimes patients stay in the Meadows after treatment.  I can’t image what that cost and yes she was hiding in there.  

Edited March 13 by Emmeline

[b2H]

I am starting to notice something here.  If Ariana isn’t careful, she is going to find herself on the outside looking in.  The glare that Katie had on her face at the end of the episode tells me she is angrier than Ariana is.  If Ariana leaves, Katie will have no one.

Sandoval is not guiltless of course.  Rachel has ditched everyone and has left her forever partner standing in the breach.

Scheana and Brock are on their way out too. Probably divorcing in a year or two.  Summer Moon’s broken arm is nothing unusual, but it happened on her watch.  And Scheana really broke the fourth wall in the coming attractions when she asked Sandoval if his friendship was only for while the cameras were running.

I hope the Village is half decent because VPR is on its last gasp.

Edited March 13 by b2H

[njbchlover]

55 minutes ago, bosawks said:

I actually think Katie hates them all, including herself.

I agree.  I have never seen someone who always has such a miserable, disagreeable look on her face and is actually miserable and disagreeable all the fucking time.  

Katie completely sucks all the fun out of room when she enters it, every time.

[whydoievencare]

Why is Lala the expert on all things?  She's so bloody pompous.  And so aggressive.

 

[njbchlover]

44 minutes ago, JenE4 said:

Alli doesn’t like Jo because she moved in with Schwartz like a minute after he and Katie got divorced. Um…kind of like you and James 6 weeks after he and Raquel ended their engagement. But, holy smokes, what is wrong with Jo?’?! All of these faces and gestures and loud-ass comments, she seems like she’d fit in with that group of redneck/blue-collar comics that were big in the 90s. Total Larry the Cable Guy vibes, with a little Jim Carey/Mike myers mugging thrown in.

MVP once again to Anne, the poor assistant in the Sandoval-Maddix household who, upon hearing that Sandvoval was going to emote piped up, in private, right? How many rants on both sides has this woman had to endure? Set those boundaries, Anne!

I agree - Jo is goofy and "out there" - but, I'm kind of liking her as Schwartz's buddy/friend with sometime benefits/whatever.

She compliments Schwartz's goofiness.  She was the perfect audience for his conversation about space aliens and all that.  

Schwartz and Craig Conover from Southern Charm should get together to discuss all their weird theories.  Then, they could design a line of tin foil hats and wear them on their respective shows.  🤣

[choclatechip45]

Jo is the female version of Schwartz, I am not sure that is a good thing. 

I really could not stand Lala or Scheana.

Also who takes dance classes in case they are asked for DWTS?

 

[njbchlover]

25 minutes ago, choclatechip45 said:

Jo is the female version of Schwartz, I am not sure that is a good thing. 

I really could not stand Lala or Scheana.

Also who takes dance classes in case they are asked for DWTS?

 

LaLa is jealous that her breakup and cheating "scandal" didn't draw the same attention as Ariana's.  After all, in LaLa's world, she, too, is a woman scorned, even though she was with Randall for years when he was still married (and, I don't care what Lala says, she knew it and didn't care as long as he kept her in Range Rovers, designer clothes and private jet rides).  LaLa thinks she's showing a more vulnerable side but she's still the same volatile, selfish bitch she always has been.  LaLa really wants all the press attention and business opportunities that Ariana has gotten, regardless of the fact that Ariana may have some more experience and training as far as acting and dancing goes.  I don't think the LaLa has any experience except being a high-end escort.

Scheana is seething with jealousy, too.  She is desperate to move above VR, despite the fact that. much like LaLa, she's talentless, unless she would be in a movie scene that requires crying on demand or throwing out a petulant pouty look (she's very good at both of those things).  Scheana may have heard that DWTS was looking at options from VR, so she just assumed it would be her, since she is an original cast member and has appeared on the show from the start.  I think that was the reason for her to take the dance lessons.  And, as much as Scheana claims to love Ariana, claims she is a "ride or die" friend to Ariana and that she is not out for herself,  I just simple cannot believe any of those statements.  Scheana would tap dance over Ariana's dead body to get on DWTS, if she had to.  And if the producers told her that she would be eliminated from most filmed scenes of VR if she won't make peace with Sandoval, she would jump from "ride or die friend of Ariana" to claiming loyalty to her original show friend Sandoval.

 

 

[Carolina Girl]

I got s far as Lisa and Tom  at TomTom and him whining about them making changes without consulting  the 10% partners    I turned it off after that. 

[ZettaK]

16 minutes ago, Carolina Girl said:

I got s far as Lisa and Tom  at TomTom and him whining about them making changes without consulting  the 10% partners    I turned it off after that. 

2.5% partners!

[princelina]

1 hour ago, njbchlover said:

I agree - Jo is goofy and "out there" - but, I'm kind of liking her as Schwartz's buddy/friend with sometime benefits/whatever.

She compliments Schwartz's goofiness.  She was the perfect audience for his conversation about space aliens and all that.  

She may be perfect for Schwartz, but that's about all I'll say for her, and it's not exactly a compliment after the last couple years.  She's just too much - and I attribute it to her being "on" for the cameras, which is annoying.  If it's how she really acts in real life I can see why nobody except Schwartz and Kristen like her!

Just when I was starting to think I might be softening a little bit towards old "Lala" she reverted to type and started aggressively telling Katie that Katie can't act the way she ("Lala") is acting at the same time.

Scheana's gonna Scheana - whatever 😄. I hope her little girl's accident in front of her will have the effect of making her relax!  And I hope she and Brock stay together - they're both ridiculous but I like them together 🤷‍♀️

 Allie's astrology charts are supposed to make them understand each other?  I have no idea what she was talking about for any of them! 😄

The most amusing bit for me was the gossipy tidbit about Jax still cheating on Brit - gee, Lisa, I guess now I'll HAVE to watch your crappy new show!  🙄😂. And then the "coming up this season" includes that Jax is "hosting a brunch" there - hahahahahahahaha!

Also:  this whole Sandoval/Raquel story seems so scripted to me - like it's just what they came up with after she refused to come back.  I had a sleeveless sweater very similar to the one Sandy wore tonight - it was the summer of 1985 and I was a 17-year-old (female) high school graduate.  I did not have the pretty necklace though - pity! 😄

Edited March 13 by princelina

[hoodooznoodooz]

I love how the editors never miss an opportunity to show us a plane whenever they film James and Ally relaxing at home.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Scheana believes Sandoval is more upset about losing his friendship with Scheana than he is about losing Ariana.

No, he’s more upset that everyone was angry at him. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

“Rachquel said, He said that life is lying.”

“I did not. . . say that,” Sandoval lies.

Edited March 14 by hoodooznoodooz

[dancingdreamer]

I'm glad they showed what's coming  up, I'm here for that! I've  never  liked Katie, talk about a misery guts.. She was awful to Schwartz  imo, he's better  off without  her. Jo is like his sister, but they've  had sex, so I shouldn't  really  say that, I'm  just glad she makes him laugh. The guys all dressed  up looked good, especially  James, then Brock tumbles in.

I don't  take much notice of Sandoval,  but I do the people  around him. I think  Ariana  might go too far, and while I do understand  why, I'd go with the person whose  company  I enjoyed  the most. I also don't  do ultimatums 

[hoodooznoodooz]

Jo needs to stop.

[hoodooznoodooz]

2 hours ago, princelina said:

I did not have the pretty necklace though - pity! 😄

They make those necklaces in pre-K now.

[Chatty Cake]

The aftermath of Scandoval isn’t all that interesting. It also sucks that Lala films with both camps. Too much Lala and Sheana this season. It is funny that they are jealous of Ariana’s post scandal opportunities. 
 

[bosawks]

9 hours ago, choclatechip45 said:

Jo is the female version of Schwartz, I am not sure that is a good thing. 

If you put Schwartz and Jo in an escape room when you returned after a few hours would they ever have even moved?

[Lassus]

Man, they are REALLY leaning into the villainification of Ariana.  I suppose it's a level of needed for production but it's a bit lame IMO.

I'm not entirely sure what Jo's done that's actually so terrible, honestly.  So she's goofy.  I'll take her goofiness over Alli's fucking astrology every single day.  

Katie saying she'd rather throw herself out the window than talk about Tom after they'd already stopped talking about Tom, and then bringing Tom up to talk about is pure Katie.

Ariana was pretty fun on WWH; the one thing I'd side-eye was her still giving Lisa some looks about hanging with Sandoval.  As a CURRENT showbiz worker, Ariana, you should by now understand stewardship of her branded show.  At the time, if you knew, I can see it being annoying.  Now?  A year later?  Recognize a little bit that other people have lives.

Lastly, that dress-up boys dinner was stupid-looking.  They did not dress for the setting.

[bosawks]

8 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I love how the editors never miss an opportunity to show us a plane whenever they film James and Ally relaxing at home.

Anyone else waiting for a shot of the Breaking Bad Pink Teddy Bear?

 

[Gharlane]

11 hours ago, snarts said:

Lala telling Ariana she's wrong for expecting her best friend to avoid hanging out with the man who did her dirty is so fucking hypocritical. Remember Rand? Remember threatening Schwartz because he dared play pickleball with him? 

Thanks for reminding me what was bugging me about LaLa doing that! 👏

10 hours ago, b2H said:

I am starting to notice something here.  If Ariana isn’t careful, she is going to find herself on the outside looking in.  

She's doing a great job at it, constantly bitching about Sandoval, staying home (alone or with Katie) and issuing ultimatums to everyone.

[Lassus]

Also, Sandoval is pathetic jerk, but I'm sorry, he's not responsible for the fact that you made a conscious decision to marry Tom fucking Schwartz, Katie.  Everything after that decision is on you.

10 hours ago, b2H said:

I am starting to notice something here.  If Ariana isn’t careful, she is going to find herself on the outside looking in.

I don't think she cares, and I don't think she SHOULD care.  On the outside of this crowd is where she should want to be.

[TattleTeeny]

12 hours ago, snarts said:

Lala telling Ariana she's wrong for expecting her best friend to avoid hanging out with the man who did her dirty is so fucking hypocritical. Remember Rand? Remember threatening Schwartz because he dared play pickleball with him? 

If I were being generous, I would think that Lala is telling Ariana this because she --Lala -- learned a lesson by icing people out (and then later un-icing them anyway). But a normal person would, you know, actually say that part instead of judging and yelling and being a real hypocrite.

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And Scheana really broke the fourth wall in the coming attractions when she asked Sandoval if his friendship was only for while the cameras were running.

They all break the fourth wall and have been doing it for a while. Just the fact that they openly mention Ariana doing Chicago and DWtS is an example, as is the notion of people on Instagram bashing Scheana. 

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Scheana's gonna Scheana - whatever 😄. I hope her little girl's accident in front of her will have the effect of making her relax!  

It is possible that it could, in a weird roundabout way; if she can glean from it that shit happens but typically doesn't end in a tragedy,* she may be able to make some steps in her OCD issues. It sucks that Summer was hurt to that degree, and I personally can't imagine not spinning out a little bit over it in Scheana's place, but the experience could also serve a purpose similar to exposure therapy.

*Not that she doesn't already know that; the OCD just makes people struggle to feel confident of that.

Edited March 13 by TattleTeeny

[Lassus]

20 minutes ago, TattleTeeny said:

but the experience could also serve a purpose similar to exposure therapy.

1000%.  As long as she doesn't go the other way - badly deeper into it instead as a result.   

But in her talking head she seemed pretty sheepish and sorta self-aware about it, though, so I would bet it helps.

Edited March 13 by Lassus

[TattleTeeny]

YES! I almost added, "Hopefully the 'what if...?' doesn't make it worse."

I have that: even after something (not everything, always, thank the gods -- just certain things) ends up more or less OK, a little time will pass, but then I start to ruminate over what could have happened. It's a nasty cycle.

Edited March 13 by TattleTeeny

[Stiggs]

Yeah, the Sandoval redemption and vilification of Ariana aren't things I want to see. EVERYTHING Sandoval says is scripted, and he gets grosser and grosser and as these boys bring him back into the fold, and his predator mask shows more and more. TBH it's sickening to watch this dumbass manipulate these other dumbasses. It's just ... gross. I keep going back to gross. 

I've always felt Katie got a bum rap over the years, and I think she's showing here that she's in the minority here - she knows how to friend. I don't think Ariana is all that worried about getting iced out because these people are showing them who they are and she's believing them. It's best to have a really great friend or two than have a group of women who channel their feelings of inadequacy into hatred for your. Scheana's BS mourning of a friendship that never was is just a mask for her burning, raging jealousy. And Lala mostly amuses me but her self-appointed sage role is getting old. Deal with your own shit, Lala. You have enough of it. I hope at the end of this season Ariana and Katie peace out of this crap. But honestly I cannot imagine season 12. It would be torture. This episode made me say, "At least it looks better than Pump Rules," to a The Valley commercial. That's scary, man! 

Jo makes me uncomfortable. It's weird. I want to like her, because I generally like goofy and awkward, but the dedication to the hat, the only brief eye contact she makes and her general fidgeting make me feel like she's just always jonesing for something, lol. I'm sure that's not true but it's just weird and off. I want to like her, because Schwartz needs a friend as odd and weird as he is, but there's just something that makes me feel a little ick? I can't figure it out. 

Allie's earnest belief that we'd have world peace if we only knew each other's birth charts was the best moment of the episode. 

It's mean but the constant showing of the plane every time they show James' house makes me LOL. And I'm liking the bloke this year. 

Edited March 13 by Stiggs

[TattleTeeny]

WAIT! What was in those big boxes that Scheana was carrying into Ally's house? All I know is that I wondered that last night, then Ally started talking about Taylor Swift, we saw a video from god knows when of Ally singing, and then I never found out what was in the boxes!

Also, Jo seems like a "pick me" girl. I find her annoying.

Edited March 13 by TattleTeeny

[Gharlane]

1 hour ago, TattleTeeny said:

WAIT! What was in those big boxes that Scheana was carrying into Ally's house? All I know is that I wondered that last night, then Ally started talking about Taylor Swift, we saw a video from god knows when of Ally singing, and then I never found out what was in the boxes!

I thought Schemer said she brought donuts, which seemed like an excessive amount to me, but then they never touched them! 🤷‍♂️

[TattleTeeny]

WHAT?! Those boxes were like what wedding dresses get stored in!

[Carolina Girl]

2 hours ago, TattleTeeny said:

instead of judging and yelling and being a real hypocrite

Being a hypocrite is what Lala does best.  I mean really - we spent half of last season with her INSISTING she was never a "mistress."  Yes you were.  He was married.  He was fucking you at the same time.  We can do the math.

And really - did I miss all those times Scheana said she wanted to be on Dancing With the Stars?  And didn't we already do this "I wanted to be on that show and you got it instead and I'm so bummed and annoyed with you" scenario on "Little Women - L.A."?  God when Reality Shows are stealing plot points from other reality shows, I think we're looking at the coming of the Rapture.....

And Scheana why do you think DWTS would want you anyway?  They probably find you and that whiny vocal fry of yours as annoying as the rest of us.  

[chlban]

I made it about 10 minutes before turning it off. I would guess many others are doing that as well, if they watch it at all. I'll follow the show on here.  The fact that I am finding James and Brock the least irritating cast members this year, tells me it's time. I really only came back for Scandoval anyway and I no longer care.

Edited March 13 by chlban

[AEJ79]

All I got from this episode is that Jo is a hair stylist and has terrible hair. 

[princelina]

4 hours ago, Stiggs said:

I hope at the end of this season Ariana and Katie peace out of this crap. But honestly I cannot imagine season 12. 

I think they're all just waiting for this cash cow to end so that they can all peace out.  That's why it's both boring and uncomfortable to watch.  Meanwhile, if Ariana doesn't get somewhat on board with the Sandy redemption then she will be left out.  But we can see from the upcoming scenes that she does, if she goes to the beach with them all when Sandy is there.

[Carolina Girl]

I did notice that they're doing stuff to push that new "Valley" show - like bringing up Brittany and Jax at the girls' lunch, with, of course, the obligatory nod to Jax's cheating, which is rearing it's head again JUUUUUUUST in time for the premier.  

[MaggieG]

4 hours ago, Stiggs said:

Yeah, the Sandoval redemption and vilification of Ariana aren't things I want to see. EVERYTHING Sandoval says is scripted, and he gets grosser and grosser and as these boys bring him back into the fold, and his predator mask shows more and more. TBH it's sickening to watch this dumbass manipulate these other dumbasses. It's just ... gross. I keep going back to gross. 

I've always felt Katie got a bum rap over the years, and I think she's showing here that she's in the minority here - she knows how to friend. I don't think Ariana is all that worried about getting iced out because these people are showing them who they are and she's believing them. It's best to have a really great friend or two than have a group of women who channel their feelings of inadequacy into hatred for your. Scheana's BS mourning of a friendship that never was is just a mask for her burning, raging jealousy. And Lala mostly amuses me but her self-appointed sage role is getting old. Deal with your own shit, Lala. You have enough of it. I hope at the end of this season Ariana and Katie peace out of this crap. But honestly I cannot imagine season 12. It would be torture. This episode made me say, "At least it looks better than Pump Rules," to a The Valley commercial. That's scary, man! 

Jo makes me uncomfortable. It's weird. I want to like her, because I generally like goofy and awkward, but the dedication to the hat, the only brief eye contact she makes and her general fidgeting make me feel like she's just always jonesing for something, lol. I'm sure that's not true but it's just weird and off. I want to like her, because Schwartz needs a friend as odd and weird as he is, but there's just something that makes me feel a little ick? I can't figure it out. 

Allie's earnest belief that we'd have world peace if we only knew each other's birth charts was the best moment of the episode. 

It's mean but the constant showing of the plane every time they show James' house makes me LOL. And I'm liking the bloke this year. 

Agree with all of this. It's very clear Sandoval is trying to get everyone back on his side so that Ariana will be iced out. And these idiots are all falling for it. 

Also agree on Jo. She has some weird energy.

4 hours ago, TattleTeeny said:

WAIT! What was in those big boxes that Scheana was carrying into Ally's house? All I know is that I wondered that last night, then Ally started talking about Taylor Swift, we saw a video from god knows when of Ally singing, and then I never found out what was in the boxes!

Also, Jo seems like a "pick me" girl. I find her annoying.

They mentioned they were going to see Taylor Swift so I wonder if the boxes contained the outfits that they were going to be wearing?

[TattleTeeny]

Maybe. It was really random and then we didn't even see them.

[njbchlover]

2 hours ago, AEJ79 said:

All I got from this episode is that Jo is a hair stylist and has terrible hair. 

Now we know why Schwartz always looks so messy and his hair looks unkempt  all the time - Jo is styling it.

[Gharlane]

2 hours ago, AEJ79 said:

All I got from this episode is that Jo is a hair stylist and has terrible hair. 

Just remember; Jo doesn't do her own hair. 😉

[Katie W]

17 hours ago, whydoievencare said:

Why is Lala the expert on all things?  She's so bloody pompous.  And so aggressive.

 

Lala thinks if she talks loudly over people and act agressively they'll back down and she "wins." I was glad Katie told her to say what she had to say or shut the fuck up. Notice Lala really didn't have anything to actually say.

Lala, Scheana, Lisa and the producers are trying to sell this "victim Tom" stuff way too hard. I've been over Lisa for years and now I get so aggravated anytime she appears on the show. 

On a positive note, WWHL had Ariana and John Oliver on after the episode and he is just delightful! Ariana was way more diplomatic regarding Scheana and Lala than I would have been. 

[Carolina Girl]

34 minutes ago, ksutton625 said:

I've been over Lisa for years and now I get so aggravated anytime she appears on the show. 

I just recently fell out of my Lisa love - it went on for awhile after she left RHBH after the shitty way those harpies treated her - especially Rinna and her POS former best friend.  But now - holy cannoli, it's over lady - they aren't in their 20's and working for you anymore - let GOOOO.