Josh and Anna

[Salacious Kitty]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

Jessa once said she didn't want a big house because of too much housework. Jessa and Ben made a mini, one floor TTH and I think she is right where she wants to be.

As far as ownership, that has me curious. Is it possible they do own it, but under the name of the church?

It's definitely not under Benessa's names. I've checked a few times over the past years. 

Edited Thursday at 06:26 PM by Salacious Kitty

[CalicoKitty]

15 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Jill and Dwreck lived at a JB flip when they first were married. 

Jessa got the refurbished Mold House, which they eventually bought from Mary.

I'm positive there was at least one episode where the two sisters and husbands lived in the same house for a short time.  I think it only lasted for one episode, so I'm sure it was for the TV show, but they were shown living in the same huge house, and Jessa did leave the stove instruction book in the oven.

[Salacious Kitty]

Jessa burnt the instruction manual in the new stove at the Mold House. They never lived with Jill. I don't recall any of the couples living together. 

[CalicoKitty]

1 minute ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Jessa burnt the instruction manual in the new stove at the Mold House. They never lived with Jill. I don't recall any of the couples living together. 

It was a large split level house that was a JB flip.  They only showed it for one episode, so I'm sure it was just a story for the show, and I doubt they really ever lived there.  But that was the story.

[Salacious Kitty]

That sounds like Jill's house. They left when they went to El Salvador and JB sold it. I don't remember anyone else living there as the location was discovered by fans and made Jill uncomfortable. 

Benessa moved into the Mold House following their honeymoon, so they never lived at any other house. I think Jill and Derick were in El Salvador before anyone else got married. 

[ginger90]

4 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

It was a large split level house that was a JB flip.  They only showed it for one episode, so I'm sure it was just a story for the show, and I doubt they really ever lived there.  But that was the story.

Perhaps you’re referring to the two of them touring a house together that was going to be sold? I think it was the one that had an indoor pool?

[lookeyloo]

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Jessa once said she didn't want a big house because of too much housework. Jessa and Ben made a mini, one floor TTH and I think she is right where she wants to be.

As far as ownership, that has me curious. Is it possible they do own it, but under the name of the church?

Agree. That's why I said under right. As in JB gives big donation and supports renovations and Jessa owns house. Or some such contrivance. 

[GeeGolly]

1 hour ago, Salacious Kitty said:

It's definitely not under Benessa's names. I've checked a few times over the past years. 

Could they own it as 'the church'? I have no idea how or by whom churches are typically owned by, but I was thinking maybe a trust or charity organization.

[Salacious Kitty]

Just now, GeeGolly said:

Could they own it as 'the church'? I have no idea how or by whom churches are typically owned by, but I was thinking maybe a trust or charity organization.

One of JB:s numerous LLCs could own the church and the parsonage. I don't know the address, so I can't look it up that way. I just search by names. 

[emma675]

Does Ben and Jessa's church have any affiliation with JB or IBLP/Gothard? I honestly don't know anything about where they worship now. 

[Salacious Kitty]

3 minutes ago, emma675 said:

Does Ben and Jessa's church have any affiliation with JB or IBLP/Gothard? I honestly don't know anything about where they worship now. 

No. AFAIK, it's just a run of the mill IFB church. JB attends another such church. 

[Absolom]

Typically churches are owned by the church as a corporate structure with a multi-person governing board.  Larger more structured denominations will have the central body of the organization or subset of it own the churches in their jurisdiction. JB was an anomaly in buying the "airport house" and using it as a church.  Tax issues frequently haunt people who try to personally own churches.  

[Tdoc72]

On 4/23/2025 at 8:21 AM, GeeGolly said:

The house is pretty isolated. I'm guessing Anna will basically be house sitting until JB decides to put it on the market.

That’s what I thought when I read somewhere else that JB had bought her a house. No way would he give up ownership. 

8 hours ago, CalicoKitty said:

I'm positive there was at least one episode where the two sisters and husbands lived in the same house for a short time.  I think it only lasted for one episode, so I'm sure it was for the TV show, but they were shown living in the same huge house, and Jessa did leave the stove instruction book in the oven.

Like the Brady Brides?

[AstridM]

2 hours ago, Tdoc72 said:

That’s what I thought when I read somewhere else that JB had bought her a house. No way would he give up ownership. 

Like the Brady Brides?

That’s EXACTLY what I immediately thought of, LOL. 

[ozziemom]

Yeah JB will sell that house in a flash if he wants to. Like if Walmart offers big bucks. What Anna wants or needs is irrelevant.

[Salacious Kitty]

We also need to remember that Pickles just reported the house sale. She's speculating on the fate of Anna's family. It would be nice to move them there, but no one has verified this, and Anna certainly won't. 

[Gemma Violet]

3 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

We also need to remember that Pickles just reported the house sale. She's speculating on the fate of Anna's family.

She said it was their new home according to a source.  I guess we'll learn in time if the source was reliable.

[Salacious Kitty]

JB just closed on the place 10 days ago. Pickles reported what, four days ago? How did the "source" know of their intentions so quickly?

[BetyBee]

22 minutes ago, Gemma Violet said:

She said it was their new home according to a source.  I guess we'll learn in time if the source was reliable.

Good point!

[oliviabenson]

that's a nice big house. I wonder who else will live with Anna as her accountability partner? 

I just see Anna living in a prison basically. like a trapped bird.

[GeeGolly]

[lookeyloo]

If I didn't know any better I'd think "nice family". Our family wears beige and white for beach pictures.  It is easier to coordinate.  We like it.  YMMV.  PS lots of colors in wardrobes and homes.  We do not live a beige life.

[emma675]

50 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Who is who in this pic? I honestly can't remember the names or ages of the majority of Pest and Anna's kids.

[dargosmydaddy]

8 minutes ago, emma675 said:

Who is who in this pic? I honestly can't remember the names or ages of the majority of Pest and Anna's kids.

From left to right: Maryella (5), Mason (7), Mackynzie (15), Anna, Madyson (3), Michael (13), Meredith (9), Marcus (11).

(I used FundieWiki to figure out the ages, and the asinine spellings of 3/4 of the girls' names...)

[Gemma Violet]

Poor Mackynzie.  At 15, she's probably running the household and taking care of the little ones.

[Absolom]

16 minutes ago, Gemma Violet said:

Poor Mackynzie.  At 15, she's probably running the household and taking care of the little ones.

I wonder how close she is to "finishing school." With what appears to be their limited life, she may have been able to work ahead.

[Salacious Kitty]

1 minute ago, Absolom said:

I wonder how close she is to "finishing school." With what appears to be their limited life, she may have been able to work ahead.

She turns 16 this year, so she's probably petty close to done, given their shitty homeschooling. 

[Absolom]

12 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

She turns 16 this year, so she's probably petty close to done, given their shitty homeschooling. 

I was thinking even a semi-smart kid could finish their basic program by 16 without a lot of effort.

[CalicoKitty]

Sadly, I'm not sure education is important for Mackynzie (autocorrect does like the spelling of this name).  She is destined to be a wife and mother, and I would guess it is getting close to the time for her to be shopped around.

[oliviabenson]

I'm shocked it's not Merydyf spelling. I forgot how the names were spelled.

[Quilt Fairy]

I see the boys and Anna get to wear shorts on the beach but the girls still have to wear dresses. 

[EmeraldGirl]

At least McKenzie and Anna are showing knees  (I am not going back to fix spelling).

I would swear I’ve never even heard of those two on the left. I guess they were pretty little when all of Josh‘s nonsense started. She would for sure have had another one or two by now. But her every two year pregnancy record is immaculate.
 

I don’t mind the cute flowy dresses for the pic. I guess it just depends what they normally wear.

[Tdoc72]

3 hours ago, CalicoKitty said:

Sadly, I'm not sure education is important for Mackynzie (autocorrect does like the spelling of this name).  She is destined to be a wife and mother, and I would guess it is getting close to the time for her to be shopped around.

I’m hoping she’s smart and observant.  Anna’s whole predicament should show her that she should have a good education and ability to work and earn her own money, not to rely on her future husband’s income (and authority) b/c sometimes life doesn’t work out the way you want.   

11 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I don’t mind their outfits, but it looks so bland with the sand and beige sky. 

[dargosmydaddy]

3 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

I'm shocked it's not Merydyf spelling.

I wonder if they still call her Dithy (which they did back on the show)? If so, then she got the worst nickname even if she got the only normal spelling.

(Although I guess for all we know the little girls could be referred to as Yella and Sonny...)

[Salacious Kitty]

I see that Mack got the Duggar girls' hair. Anna could never grow hers long (baby fine), and only Esther has anything approaching long hair on Anna's side of the family. 

[Absolom]

3 hours ago, Quilt Fairy said:

I see the boys and Anna get to wear shorts on the beach but the girls still have to wear dresses. 

I think Anna is in a dress.  The wind has blown it against her leg, but I don't see shorts.

[CalicoKitty]

2 hours ago, Tdoc72 said:

I’m hoping she’s smart and observant.  Anna’s whole predicament should show her that she should have a good education and ability to work and earn her own money, not to rely on her future husband’s income (and authority) b/c sometimes life doesn’t work out the way you want.   

I don’t mind their outfits, but it looks so bland with the sand and beige sky. 

I will be very surprised if that ever happens.  Anna still thinks Josh did nothing wrong and blames everyone else.  I don't think Anna's outlook has changed at all.  She is supported by JB and has never even thought of getting a job or taking care of herself.  That is a man's job.  I'm sure that is the way she is bringing up her children.  Daughters must be obedient to their husbands.

[Salacious Kitty]

Speaking of daughters and their husbands, the IBLP meat market where The Felon and Anna met has been moved to August, just a week before th conference was due to begin. There was a measles outbreak at the ALERT camp. Oops. 

[merylinkid]

This was for a photo shoot on the beach so I am giving a pass to the girls in dresses.   It was a special occasion.   Given things are a lot more relaxed in Duggar world these days I don't think that's the usual dress for the girls.

I do hope Anna has figured out that being educated is good for the girls too -- you know in case your "at least I have a" husband gets attacked by Satan and sent off to jail.   

Why do I think these idiots are part of the anti-vaxx crowd so am not surprised by a measles outbreak at one of their events?

[AgathaC]

11 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

This was for a photo shoot on the beach so I am giving a pass to the girls in dresses.   It was a special occasion.   Given things are a lot more relaxed in Duggar world these days I don't think that's the usual dress for the girls.

I do hope Anna has figured out that being educated is good for the girls too -- you know in case your "at least I have a" husband gets attacked by Satan and sent off to jail.   

Why do I think these idiots are part of the anti-vaxx crowd so am not surprised by a measles outbreak at one of their events?

My thought exactly about the measles. Not surprising at all.

But I would be shocked if Anna teaches the girls to be discerning and know how to support themselves. I see no sign she thinks anything other than “my husband has done nothing wrong and is being persecuted because of his devotion to Jesus.” I would imagine the kids are learning the same thing. And given how insulated they are, I doubt they’ll be exposed to any other point of view anytime soon. If the girls end up in a similar situation, they’ll just turn to their FIL for support.

One would hope this sort of situation would lead to self-reflection and a new inner strength/determination/growth. But I think in Anna’s case, she’s holding onto her delusion, persecution complex and smug self-assurance like grim death. Given her upbringing, I think that’s typical.

[emma675]

I do wonder what Anna tells the kids about the Felon's situation. Several of them are old enough to be online and potentially find news stories and sites that tell a completely different story than the one she tried to spin about him being framed and attacked by Satan. I wonder what kind of a grip Anna has on the kids and their daily lives? It's not like the Felon was an involved parent when he wasn't in jail, but has Anna become a stricter parent with him gone or has she given up?

[ranchgirl]

Didn't Anna get a degree?  Even if a fundy girl gets some higher education, it doesn't come into play even when her whole life falls apart.  It's just a time waster until her "prince" comes along.   Abby D is a huge exception.  

[Absolom]

Anna's degree was in either early childhood education or religious education (I've seen both stated) and was I believe a fundie correspondence program.  She did finish it by age 20 so it appears she finished her high school curriculum by around 16. 

[oliviabenson]

12 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Speaking of daughters and their husbands, the IBLP meat market where The Felon and Anna met has been moved to August, just a week before th conference was due to begin. There was a measles outbreak at the ALERT camp. Oops. 

oopsie indeed. 

[Salacious Kitty]

2 hours ago, Absolom said:

Anna's degree was in either early childhood education or religious education (I've seen both stated) and was I believe a fundie correspondence program.  She did finish it by age 20 so it appears she finished her high school curriculum by around 16. 

Anna's program was apparently two years. It was some unaccredited rinky dink fundie institution that they never disclosed. It was in ECE. 

Edited 18 hours ago by Salacious Kitty

[Absolom]

The dangers of AI.  This is a total hash:

Quote

Anna Duggar, formerly Anna Duggar Seewahl, has an associate's degree or certification in early childhood education. She is also a native of New Orleans and a graduate of Benjamin Franklin High School, according to Loyola University New Orleans. Before working at Loyola, she taught at the University of West Florida and Tulane. 

The associate info is from a reddit poster.

As I remember it from way back when she finished her high school program at 16 and then did a four year correspondence program with one of those Verity or Verity like programs that they called a BA. 

In this case Wiki seems to be more accurate. 

Edited 18 hours ago by Absolom

[Salacious Kitty]

Maybe that's someone else? Our Anna obviously never worked at Loyola, or has any ties to LA. 

Hilarious.

[Absolom]

6 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Maybe that's someone else? Our Anna obviously never worked at Loyola, or has any ties to LA. 

Yeah, I think the AI combined two people.  Oddly it had our Anna Duggar's photo though and some of the continuing text was definitely Anna Keller Duggar.

[jschoolgirl]

On 4/26/2025 at 10:45 PM, Absolom said:

I think Anna is in a dress.  The wind has blown it against her leg, but I don't see shorts.

It’s above her knees, likely even without the wind! 😱

JB is her headship, isn’t he?

 

 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by jschoolgirl
Predictive text is not all that!

[Absolom]

Maybe Jim Bob and Michelle finally gave up trying to be the wardrobe police.  It seems they have slackened control on the courting and the adult offspring are rejecting many of the old rules.