S05.E12: Little Post, Big World

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Shekinah accuses Sarper of trying to keep her a secret; Yohan reveals his true intentions; Kenny and Armando each make a surprising decision as they leave Mexico City; Kimberly fights for her relationship wtih TJ.

Airs 9/25/23

[JeanJean]

If Shekinah let her lips deflate, that would be 4 pounds right there.

[JeanJean]

They're on a TV show and he's worried girls will see him on Instagram? Make it make sense.

[AR Traveler]

So Shekina's dreamboat weighs her in every day (never mind that weight goes up and down with a woman's cycles), dictates her outfits, makeup, and  hair, and then goes on national TV to protest a measly post on social media?  Well, next week, he pulls a sucker out of Shekina's mouth.  Oh no!  Some guy pulls a Cheez-it or a 3 Musketeers bar from my grubby little paws and we are going to have a problem.  

What exactly is the appeal of a guy who resembles the Incredible Hulk with brain wattage in negative numbers?  2500 women-I don't think I have even met 2500 men, and that's a lot of years.  Shekina, dear, it's player behavavior because...wait...he's a player!   At this point, I think it's more she doesn't want to go home and admit that her friends were right.

 

[anoninrva]

45 minutes ago, AR Traveler said:

So Shekina's dreamboat weighs her in every day (never mind that weight goes up and down with a woman's cycles), dictates her outfits, makeup, and  hair, and then goes on national TV to protest a measly post on social media?  Well, next week, he pulls a sucker out of Shekina's mouth.  Oh no!  Some guy pulls a Cheez-it or a 3 Musketeers bar from my grubby little paws and we are going to have a problem.  

What exactly is the appeal of a guy who resembles the Incredible Hulk with brain wattage in negative numbers?  2500 women-I don't think I have even met 2500 men, and that's a lot of years.  Shekina, dear, it's player behavavior because...wait...he's a player!   At this point, I think it's more she doesn't want to go home and admit that her friends were right.

 

I lost count of all of the red flags in that interaction.  I did not forget that she was doing this to make her daughter proud, however..

[JeanJean]

I'm sorry but my brain registers the S&S storyline as HUGE LIPS and that distracts me from everything else about them.

[libgirl2]

6 hours ago, anoninrva said:

I lost count of all of the red flags in that interaction.  I did not forget that she was doing this to make her daughter proud, however..

I think this guy is a tool but the final straw was the weigh in! WTF? 

[Shrek]

10 hours ago, anoninrva said:

I lost count of all of the red flags in that interaction.  I did not forget that she was doing this to make her daughter proud, however..

While I agree with most of the comments about him being a walking literal red flag unless I was too gummied up to remember correctly she asked him which outfit he liked best out of a selection & which jacket he thought went with said outfit, because she seems to thinks he's some fashion guru, so he wasn't telling her what to wear but answering her questions.

Now the correct answer to that question around here is "you always look wonderful whatever you choose to wear Fiona my dear" it may not be the same in plastic land.

 

[anoninrva]

Fair enough, she does consider him a fashion guru.  I think I bristled more at the delivery, and the weigh-in certainly didn't help.  It felt less constructive and more instructive.

[MamaGee]

Y'all. Besides Kenny and Armando, I feel like these people are huge train wreck. Shekinah wanting a post vs. a story. Really, girl? That's your concern?? He is worried about you being 4 lbs over your ideal weight. What are you thinking?? TJ claiming Kim is his manifestation? Manifestation of what, exactly? The coven her shirt proclaims?? Because that's all I see. Can't wait for her to screech later this season. That should be fun for his whole neighborhood. And homegirl in the DR gets her puppy taken away? 🤣 After this episode he bemoans she isn't keeping him to other "DR men,  American woman" standards, of he paid for the dog, I bet he is going to fight for it. And Brandan and Mary in a food fight? Gawd.....

[anoninrva]

34 minutes ago, MamaGee said:

 And Brandan and Mary in a food fight? Gawd.....

I thought that was shotgun wedding cake?  Maybe it was Britney/Marcellano smushed birthday cake, but that seems like a fairly odd way to celebrate a birthday to me,  and besides, was a different show, Love after Lockup.

[Fable]

For the life of me, I can't understand why Kimberly so desparately wants to hold onto TJ.  She is already out of her mind with misery, and she doesn't even know what's coming. She is going to go ballistic!  

[Kid]

So!   Yohan expects they should buy a house and a car. How does he expect to pay for that since he's got an aversion to earning a living?

[AR Traveler]

3 hours ago, Shrek said:

While I agree with most of the comments about him being a walking literal red flag unless I was too gummied up to remember correctly she asked him which outfit he liked best out of a selection & which jacket he thought went with said outfit, because she seems to thinks he's some fashion guru, so he wasn't telling her what to wear but answering her questions.

Now the correct answer to that question around here is "you always look wonderful whatever you choose to wear Fiona my dear" it may not be the same in plastic land.

 

You seem a smart man.  When Fiona asks "Do I look fat in this?", the only answer is what you said above.  Sarper would say "Yes".

[bichonblitz]

i want to punch Kimberly in the throat. One of the most spoiled, narcissistic, nasty people to ever grace this franchise and that's saying alot. She has not one ounce of compassion or kindness for TJ until he threatens to leave her. Disgusting. 

I'm getting tired of Armando and his whining about a baby. You have a kid with your DNA already and Kenny is 60. It's pretty selfish to ask him to father another child at his age. He moved to another country for him, lives in a town he doesn't love and now he has to make a decision he doesn't want to make just to shut Armando up. He wants a baby so he will have something of Kenny after he dies. There will be things all around him to remind him of Kenny after he is gone. STFU about it , already. 

Danielle. How many ways does Yohan need to show her he only wants a sugar mama? And she wants a baby with this loser? 

Ugh. These people and their baby dreams. 

 

Edited September 26, 2023 by bichonblitz

[Natalie68]

On 9/24/2023 at 9:32 PM, MrBuhBye said:

Shekinah accuses Sarper of trying to keep her a secret; Yohan reveals his true intentions; Kenny and Armando each make a surprising decision as they leave Mexico City; Kimberly fights for her relationship wtih TJ.

Airs 9/25/23

I had an epiphany last night.  Sarper is Jim Varney, or for those in the know, Ernest.

 

[Texasmom1970]

I can’t even pretend to care enough about this episode to do much but say these people are idiots!

[MamaGee]

2 hours ago, Fable said:

For the life of me, I can't understand why Kimberly so desparately wants to hold onto TJ.  She is already out of her mind with misery, and she doesn't even know what's coming. She is going to go ballistic!  

I think she has probably had zero luck with the American men she has tried to date. The girl is horribly traumatized by her mother; unless she gets real help, I don't see her ever being happy. 

[suzeecat]

It was shockingly eye-opening when Yohan was talking with his friend at the gym complaining that another friend dated (married?) an American woman and she bought him a house and a car and all Yohan got was a dog.  What a total joke this whole relationship is!  The preview of next episode look interesting with them fighting over what Yohan can take when he leaves her. 

All Kimberly can see is her Bollywood wedding and TLC paycheck.  That's really all that matters to her.  The previews of the wedding do look pretty spectacular.  Does everyone in that part of the world have weddings like that and if so, how do they afford them? 

The Mary and Brandan storyline is just plain depressing.

Everything has already been said about Shakina/Sarper. 

[libgirl2]

3 minutes ago, suzeecat said:

The Mary and Brandan storyline is just plain depressing.

 

It is so sad, I hate to even snark about it. No light at all, dead end..... 

[Shrek]

16 minutes ago, suzeecat said:

It was shockingly eye-opening when Yohan was talking with his friend at the gym complaining that another friend dated (married?) an American woman and she bought him a house and a car and all Yohan got was a dog.  What a total joke this whole relationship is!  

 

Maybe I'm alone in thinking this but my first thought watching that was "I bet she promised him a mountain of beans when she saw how big his dick was & all she's managed so far is a single bean, not even a refried one". 

[libgirl2]

6 minutes ago, Shrek said:

Maybe I'm alone in thinking this but my first thought watching that was "I bet she promised him a mountain of beans when she saw how big his dick was & all she's managed so far is a single bean, not even a refried one". 

I am sure she  made him think she was a wealthy American who would  give him a life in the US or at most a comfortable life in  DR. You can live pretty well if you go there with American dollars. 

Oh, and the joke is funny, but we don't really eat refried beans. I think the closet we come is habichuelas con dulce, which is kind of a pureed sweet bean soup. Still good point made! 

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7 hours ago, MamaGee said:

Can't wait for her to screech later this season. That should be fun for his whole neighborhood

I wonder if they have involuntary commitments in India because she seems to qualify.

7 hours ago, MamaGee said:

he paid for the dog, I bet he is going to fight for it.

Let’s hope he hasn’t seen Fatal Attraction.

5 hours ago, AR Traveler said:

Sarper would say "Yes".

He thinks he is being clever by saying he doesn’t like “muscle” on a woman.

5 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

There will be things all around him to remind him of Kenny after he is gone.

Maybe he should investigate taxidermy.

Edited September 26, 2023 by MrBuhBye

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2 hours ago, suzeecat said:

What a total joke this whole relationship is! 

He is basically a gigolo and she isn’t paying.  Why does she think a hot 20-something guy would want to marry a dumpy 40-something woman anyway?

[goofygirl]

Poor old fish lips Vagina is gonna have a hard time telling EVERYONE ELSE IN HER LIFE that she's a shit man-picker.  It's gonna devastate her image of herself.

Yohan and the puppy... What an ass.  Danielle... even BIGGER ASS!  Them together?? ASSHATS! Poor doggie.

[JeanJean]

28 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

He is basically a gigolo and she isn’t paying.  Why does she think a hot 20-something guy would want to marry a dumpy 40-something woman anyway?

I think he's in his 30s? Not that that changes anything.

[kittle1974]

So this guy has literally wrapped himself in a red flag, yet lips (aka Jocelyn Wildenstein) is too stupid to see it. And what normal 40 year olds fight about social media? Jesus Christ. She’s worried about her insta content, but not the fact that he’s banged thousands. 🤮🤮🤮 These two deserve each other  

 

I spoke too soon. She just said he was dressed in a red flag. Maybe there’s a chance for Jocelyn to see the light after all 

[1011101010001]

1 hour ago, goofygirl said:

Poor doggie.

Especially if Yohan is too cheap to turn the AC on.

1 hour ago, JeanJean said:

I think he's in his 30s? Not that that changes anything.

Yeah 32.  Maybe he was 29 or 30 their first season and I have that stuck in my craw.

1 hour ago, kittle1974 said:

She’s worried about her insta content, but not the fact that he’s banged thousands. 🤮🤮🤮

I wonder how gross the other 2499 were if he thinks she is the bomb.

1 hour ago, kittle1974 said:

And what normal 40 year olds fight about social media?

If his story about the stalker(s) is true don’t you think they would notice a story that is available for 24 hours and screen shot it?  People who are into social media check it constantly.

[1011101010001]

Also Shekinah cares about the bed but hasn’t demanded a full battery of STD tests?  He’s got to at least have herpes after that many partners.

[JeanJean]

1 hour ago, kittle1974 said:

 

 

1 hour ago, kittle1974 said:

. She’s worried about her insta content, but not the fact that he’s banged thousands. 🤮🤮🤮 

 

 

His theme song?

Edited September 27, 2023 by JeanJean

[IvySpice]

Shekinah accurately called out Sarper's BS excuses. We'll see how long that lasts. Making the relationship official -- whether that's on Instagram or elsewhere -- is not a small matter at all.

I grieve the death of TJ's moment of clarity when he broke up with Kimberly. Just think: right now the relationship is only making five people miserable. But soon they will add children to the mix so they can suffer, too!

[Scarlett45]

5 hours ago, Shrek said:

Maybe I'm alone in thinking this but my first thought watching that was "I bet she promised him a mountain of beans when she saw how big his dick was & all she's managed so far is a single bean, not even a refried one". 

Omg you’re funny. 
 

Yohan isn’t perfect but Danielle treats him horribly and lied/mislead him about moving to the USA. This relationship is awful. I don’t know why she just didn’t keep hooking up with him and flying down to the DR. Why MARRY HIM??!!

3 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

He is basically a gigolo and she isn’t paying.  Why does she think a hot 20-something guy would want to marry a dumpy 40-something woman anyway?

I don’t think Danielle is dumpy, I think she’s cute, her personality is awful but I am sure there are many men that would find her attractive. 
 

However she LIED to Yohan and mislead him about the life they were going to have to “lock him down”. She doesn’t respect him, she should’ve just kept him as a hook up as I said above. Fly down there, have sex, give him presents and go home. 

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6 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

I am sure there are many men that would find her attractive. 

You are a very kind person.

[surfgirl]

14 hours ago, Fable said:

For the life of me, I can't understand why Kimberly so desparately wants to hold onto TJ.  She is already out of her mind with misery, and she doesn't even know what's coming. She is going to go ballistic!  

Here's the thing with Kimberly, she will never fit in there because she is utterly clueless and ignorant of traditional Indian culture. She should have bagged a guy from a well off family where everyone was educated and more in tune with western ways of living. Those families do exist in urban India, but she didn't get into one of those families. Her family is made up of people who entered into arranged marriages - TJs parents - and I don't think the brother is married but if he is or will be, it'll be arranged. TJ and Kimberly are a love marriage, and mainstream Indian culture really doesn't understand love marriages. They are also sort of looked down upon because those who marry for love in India usually lord it over others as a 'look at me, I didn't get married off, I chose my partner', and the vast majority of others around them are made to feel less than because they're all in arranged marriages. I've seen it happen and love marriage people are usually annoying AF to everyone around them. Kimberly seems completely clueless about this very huge distinction that will always make her and TJ seem different to others. It's not just her being a non-Indian, but she's too up her own ass to bother to figure this out, and weirdly, TJ hasn't mentioned this to her on camera either, which boggles the mind. TJs parents were an arranged marriage I'm sure, and as such they have no idea of the squabbles and fights that a couple goes through, though a lot of this is Kimberly being a bitch.

I just cant with S&S, those two are just playing us for their 15 minutes of Famewhoredom.

[Adeejay]

13 hours ago, surfgirl said:

Here's the thing with Kimberly, she will never fit in there because she is utterly clueless and ignorant of traditional Indian culture. She should have bagged a guy from a well off family where everyone was educated and more in tune with western ways of living. 

"I know I can be a bitch and a lot to handle."  Those are Kimberly's own words.  Let's get real.  No sane man would put up with this lunatic, let alone one from a "well-off family".   There is reason why her stepmother encouraged her to call TJ to try and reconcile.  They want to be rid of her. TJ should have held his ground.  He is a damn fool.  This woman is going to make him and his family miserable.  While I feel sorry for them, I don't feel sorry for him. The preview for next week shows her screaming like a banshee.  Yeah.  She is a real prize.  

Edited September 27, 2023 by Adeejay

[1011101010001]

10 hours ago, surfgirl said:

Here's the thing with Kimberly, she will never fit in there

She would be perceived as rude by families in most cultures lol.

42 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

screaming like a banshee

Or a wounded animal.

[JeanJean]

1 hour ago, Adeejay said:

The preview for next week shows her screaming like a banshee.  Yeah.  She is a real prize.  

Given TLC's tendency to misrepresent things in previews, it'll be interesting to see the real context of that.

[Fable]

1 hour ago, Adeejay said:

TJ should have held his ground.  He is a damn fool.  This woman is going to make him and his family miserable.  While I feel sorry for them, I don't feel sorry for him.

What in the world was TJ thinking if he thought tricking her into a life of servitude was going to work, especially after he saw the way she reacted to everything since moving there.  He has to know there is going to be hell to pay!  

[JeanJean]

1 hour ago, Fable said:

What in the world was TJ thinking if he thought tricking her into a life of servitude was going to work, especially after he saw the way she reacted to everything since moving there.  He has to know there is going to be hell to pay!  

Good point. It seems sometimes like people have forgotten that TJ admitted he was intentionally defrauding her. He's really not "poor put-upon TJ."

[Adeejay]

1 hour ago, JeanJean said:

Good point. It seems sometimes like people have forgotten that TJ admitted he was intentionally defrauding her. He's really not "poor put-upon TJ."

TJ did not admit to intentionally "defrauding" Kimberly.  After her alarming behavior the first night, it appeared that the producers sensed that she "could be a handful" (her words).  TJ was asked by a producer if Kimberly knew what would be expected of her after they got married.  He replied, "no, I haven't told her."   Kimberly lived in India for a year.  Seems to me she should have known a little about their culture.  Heck, I've never been to India, don't plan on marrying an Indian and yet, I know that a daughter in-law is expected to move in with her in-laws and help take care of the family.  Are we to believe that this 30-year-old woman is so innocent and naive that she has no idea what is expected of an Indian wife?

[Shrek]

1 minute ago, Adeejay said:

TJ did not admit to intentionally "defrauding" Kimberly.  After her alarming behavior the first night, it appeared that the producers sensed that she "could be a handful" (her words).  TJ was asked by a producer if Kimberly knew what would be expected of her after they got married.  He replied, "no, I haven't told her."   Kimberly lived in India for a year.  Seems to me she should have known a little about their culture.  Heck, I've never been to India, don't plan on marrying an Indian and yet, I know that a daughter in-law is expected to move in with her in-laws and help take care of the family.  Are we to believe that this 30-year-old woman is so innocent and naive that she has no idea what is expected of an Indian wife?

She is 100% naive enough to believe that she's a murican and therefore the rules in other countries don't apply to her, just like most that we see.

[JeanJean]

53 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

TJ did not admit to intentionally "defrauding" Kimberly.

He said he wasn't going to inform her until after the wedding. That's fraudulent. Sure, as others have said, she could have looked around India and asked him what he would want from her. But he still made a deliberate choice to keep his wishes secret from her until she was already essentially trapped. He spelled that out clearly to the rest of us.

It's on both of them that they don't seem to have had a clear discussion of what they each expect way before now. They just keep running into things and then exploding. First flush of love giving way to reality... which often turns out fine, but not likely in this case. Brandon and Mary may be next.

Edited September 27, 2023 by JeanJean

[TwirlyGirly]

Can someone please, please, PLEASE explain something to me?

I've been around for many decades, and have had a few long-term (and several short-term) relationships (these were all consecutive, not concurrent 😊), and never have I ever thought of any of my partners as being potential "IKEA hacks".

Meaning: never in my wildest dreams did I ever think "He's absolutely perfect! I just have to tell him he can't do A, B, and C anymore, and must do X, Y, and Z from now on."

I don't understand this mindset at all. 

You can't claim to love someone if you're telling them they have to stop doing something they enjoy because you don't like it. 

Shekinah isn't the only person in the 90 Day universe who's been like this. I just finished bingeing 90 Day Fiance UK and there's a woman in the most recent season who told her partner — who loves dancing as a hobby — that he can't dance any Latin dances anymore. Why? Because she hates Latin dancing and has decided it's "pornographic". So she's decided no more classes for him because he's paired with other female students to dance "pornographically"  — not even if she goes with him and watches. 

I know there have been other examples in the 90 Day universe (both women and men) but I think because I find this mindset so awful I force myself to forget them as soon as their season ends.

Insofar as Shekinah and her problem with Sarper playing video games, I'm female and older than everyone who has mentioned their own or their video game playing spouse's ages, and I've spent over 200 hours thus far playing The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (released 5/12/23) and many times that number of hours playing the game that preceded it: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - between May 2020 and May of this year. 

So Shekinah doesn't know what she's talking about if she thinks video games are only for boys in their teens and early 20's.

Although I never got into it, Animal Crossing is a game that helped hundreds of thousands of men and women of all ages survive the COVID-19 lockdowns without losing their minds. 

So Shekinah? If you haven't actually tried playing any video games, you don't know how much fun and how relaxing they can be. There really is something for everyone now! 

Oh, and here's a relationship hint: if you don't want your partner telling you what you can and cannot do and how they expect you to change to align with their sensibilities, then maybe you should stop telling them what they can and cannot do and what you expect them to change to align with your sensibilities. 

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23 minutes ago, TwirlyGirly said:

Can someone please, please, PLEASE explain something to me?

I've been around for many decades, and have had a few long-term (and several short-term) relationships (these were all consecutive, not concurrent 😊), and never have I ever thought of any of my partners as being potential "IKEA hacks".

Meaning: never in my wildest dreams did I ever think "He's absolutely perfect! I just have to tell him he can't do A, B, and C anymore, and must do X, Y, and Z from now on."

I don't understand this mindset at all. 

You can't claim to love someone if you're telling them they have to stop doing something they enjoy because you don't like it. 

Shekinah isn't the only person in the 90 Day universe who's been like this. I just finished bingeing 90 Day Fiance UK and there's a woman in the most recent season who told her partner — who loves dancing as a hobby — that he can't dance any Latin dances anymore. Why? Because she hates Latin dancing and has decided it's "pornographic". So she's decided no more classes for him because he's paired with other female students to dance "pornographically"  — not even if she goes with him and watches. 

I know there have been other examples in the 90 Day universe (both women and men) but I think because I find this mindset so awful I force myself to forget them as soon as their season ends.

Insofar as Shekinah and her problem with Sarper playing video games, I'm female and older than everyone who has mentioned their own or their video game playing spouse's ages, and I've spent over 200 hours thus far playing The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (released 5/12/23) and many times that number of hours playing the game that preceded it: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - between May 2020 and May of this year. 

So Shekinah doesn't know what she's talking about if she thinks video games are only for boys in their teens and early 20's.

Although I never got into it, Animal Crossing is a game that helped hundreds of thousands of men and women of all ages survive the COVID-19 lockdowns without losing their minds. 

So Shekinah? If you haven't actually tried playing any video games, you don't know how much fun and how relaxing they can be. There really is something for everyone now! 

Oh, and here's a relationship hint: if you don't want your partner telling you what you can and cannot do and how they expect you to change to align with their sensibilities, then maybe you should stop telling them what they can and cannot do and what you expect them to change to align with your sensibilities. 

They are picking people based on their looks and then want to change their entire personalities.  

[AR Traveler]

1 hour ago, TwirlyGirly said:

Can someone please, please, PLEASE explain something to me?

I've been around for many decades, and have had a few long-term (and several short-term) relationships (these were all consecutive, not concurrent 😊), and never have I ever thought of any of my partners as being potential "IKEA hacks".

Meaning: never in my wildest dreams did I ever think "He's absolutely perfect! I just have to tell him he can't do A, B, and C anymore, and must do X, Y, and Z from now on."

I don't understand this mindset at all. 

You can't claim to love someone if you're telling them they have to stop doing something they enjoy because you don't like it. 

Shekinah isn't the only person in the 90 Day universe who's been like this. I just finished bingeing 90 Day Fiance UK and there's a woman in the most recent season who told her partner — who loves dancing as a hobby — that he can't dance any Latin dances anymore. Why? Because she hates Latin dancing and has decided it's "pornographic". So she's decided no more classes for him because he's paired with other female students to dance "pornographically"  — not even if she goes with him and watches. 

I know there have been other examples in the 90 Day universe (both women and men) but I think because I find this mindset so awful I force myself to forget them as soon as their season ends.

Insofar as Shekinah and her problem with Sarper playing video games, I'm female and older than everyone who has mentioned their own or their video game playing spouse's ages, and I've spent over 200 hours thus far playing The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (released 5/12/23) and many times that number of hours playing the game that preceded it: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - between May 2020 and May of this year. 

So Shekinah doesn't know what she's talking about if she thinks video games are only for boys in their teens and early 20's.

Although I never got into it, Animal Crossing is a game that helped hundreds of thousands of men and women of all ages survive the COVID-19 lockdowns without losing their minds. 

So Shekinah? If you haven't actually tried playing any video games, you don't know how much fun and how relaxing they can be. There really is something for everyone now! 

Oh, and here's a relationship hint: if you don't want your partner telling you what you can and cannot do and how they expect you to change to align with their sensibilities, then maybe you should stop telling them what they can and cannot do and what you expect them to change to align with your sensibilities. 

Not only have I dabbled in Legend of Zelda and Animal Crossing, I still play those old Voltage romance games, where your answers determine if things work out between you (the main character) and one of several guys you can choose.  Mr. Traveler could not care less.

[TwirlyGirly]

11 minutes ago, AR Traveler said:

Not only have I dabbled in Legend of Zelda and Animal Crossing, I still play those old Voltage romance games, where your answers determine if things work out between you (the main character) and one of several guys you can choose.  Mr. Traveler could not care less.

Poor Mr. Traveler.

Doesn't know what he's missing.

Well.. that'll be our little secret then! 😉

[Adeejay]

6 hours ago, JeanJean said:

He said he wasn't going to inform her until after the wedding. That's fraudulent. Sure, as others have said, she could have looked around India and asked him what he would want from her. But he still made a deliberate choice to keep his wishes secret from her until she was already essentially trapped. He spelled that out clearly to the rest of us.

"Keep his wishes secret?"  They are not secrets.  It's what Indian wives have been doing for centuries.  How hard would it have been for her to check into what was going to be expected of her? And, she isn't "trapped", because unless I am mistaken, there is this little thing called a divorce.  All I know is that if TJ knows what is good for him, he will sleep with one eye open.   

[surfgirl]

13 hours ago, Adeejay said:

"I know I can be a bitch and a lot to handle."  Those are Kimberly's own words.  Let's get real.  No sane man would put up with this lunatic, let alone one from a "well-off family".   There is reason why her stepmother encouraged her to call TJ to try and reconcile.  They want to be rid of her. TJ should have held his ground.  He is a damn fool.  This woman is going to make him and his family miserable.  While I feel sorry for them, I don't feel sorry for him. The preview for next week shows her screaming like a banshee.  Yeah.  She is a real prize.  

If she was marrying into a family that was more modern and both understood and accepted more western life styles - like a young couple living on their own, not expecting the new wife to do all the housework because they had live in help, having daughters of their own who had careers and jobs, etc. - then perhaps Kimberly wouldn't be as bitchy because she wouldn't have to rebel to keep her western life style. But she isn't marrying into that kind of family (I know them, they do exist there), she's marrying into a lower economic household with very traditional values and expectations that she can never uphold. She's never going to be the daughter in law who does all the cooking and cleaning and serving. She's not cut out for this at all and she seems to have done zero research into what is expected of her after marriage. In this aspect, she's an idiot just like 99% of the people on this show.

ETA: Sarper looks like a sponge soaked in STIs. He is so disgusting I can barely look at him. 🤢🤮

Edited September 28, 2023 by surfgirl

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18 hours ago, JeanJean said:

He said he wasn't going to inform her until after the wedding. That's fraudulent.

Yes. He even explained that if he told her, he feared that she wouldn't move to/stay in India for him. So it was a clear, deliberate plan to hide the truth.

What's extra weird about the whole situation is that the daughter-in-law is going to be expected to cook in the MIL's kitchen, HER recipes, HER way, the way the four members of the family have been eating every meal for decades. That situation leads to conflict even when the MIL and DIL have the exact same background (I'm a Jewish wife with a Jewish husband -- I've been there). But this is India! No Western person knows what they would need to know about the different purity rules, different nuances of vegetarianism, different spice levels expected in a particular home. All the Madhur Jaffrey cookbooks in the world could not prepare me to cook for this exact Hindu family in this part of Jaipur. Maybe Kimberly has been learning to make Gatte Ki Sabzi or whatever, but I don't see how anyone could expect decent DIL work out of her, even if she had a personality transplant and became totally committed to the job.

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On 9/27/2023 at 3:40 AM, surfgirl said:

She should have bagged a guy from a well off family

Is that something one can just set out to do?  I clearly missed that day of How to Woman class.