Season 25 Live Feeds Discussion

[Lady Calypso]

So, it looks like, as of right now, the flip is on. Cory telling Jag and Matt that he's known about Seven Deadly Sins for weeks is what flipped Jag completely and what has seemed to turn Matt.

They're still gonna play along with Cirie/Izzy/Jared so tonight's conversations with them will show if they're REALLY on their side or not. If Matt spills what was told to him, then he's not in on the flip. If he keeps it more generic, like "I'm with you guys, Felicia's gotta go", we know he's withholding and wants to flip.

Jag really hammered it in to Matt why they can't stick with the Seven, which is SUCH a turn around for Jag. 

He finally woke up and it looks like he won't be going back to sleep. I know it happens every day, but he said fuck the Seven AND he trusts America, so I think he's truly legit.

 

Also, Meme will be the other person to watch out for tonight. I think she's the other who probably isn't all in, but she also likes Felicia more than Izzy so she's gonna be important to keep an eye on the next 24 hours.

[atomic]

Wall comp for tomorrow's HOH! According to Hamsterwatch.

[Jillibean]

I don't know what will happen tomorrow, but If Izzy had just come to Cory in a calmer way and said that America messed up but it can be fixed, get on it, she would almost definitely still be safe. Instead, she got heightened, vented her anger about America to Cory, and showed him a lot of truth about her thinking in the process. 

And the reason she thought she was safe doing so is because Cory has been bashing America to everyone for weeks.

I'm sitting here grappling with the fact that this strategy has somehow actually worked out for Cory.

[Lady Calypso]

And that's the thing; Jared's not the only one to mess this up. Izzy caused the flip in the first place. Before this afternoon, Cory was NOT flipping. But the moment Izzy said that she was targeting America, Cory realized he couldn't be loyal anymore.

Now Matt's talking to America. I think I can safely sigh in relief. Matt is FINALLY being more open with America, so I think he's all in on the flip.

Now, Meme's with Cirie. Oh god, she's the one I'm most worried about.

[Brian Cronin]

Of course, I now desperately want Izzy to take her glasses off before the vote to prepare for the HoH comp following the vote, only to then have to put them back on after the vote is announced. 

[kellog010]

Meme not spilling yet to Cerie. I'm stressed. 

[Lady Calypso]

Just now, kellog010 said:

Meme not spilling yet to Cerie. I'm stressed. 

If Meme wasn't seriously considering the proposal from Cory/America/Jag, she would have spilled immediately.

So it looks like, at the very least, Meme is thinking about it which is MORE THAN SHE'S DONE IN THIS GAME ON HER OWN.

Which is exciting; she's FINALLY thinking on her own and that's great.

The ONLY worry is Meme telling Felicia. She CANNOT tell Felicia tonight.

This is officially THE most exciting day of Big Brother 25, and this has been a season of non-stop gaming.

Day 43 > BB21 Day 44.

[Brian Cronin]

20 minutes ago, Ivana Tinkle said:

Right? I remember when they came back to host a comp in a porno - excuse me - BB9 and thinking "Oh, they're still a thing?".

Of all of the BB seasons that don't exist, BB9 is the one that not only didn't exist, but no one even acts like it DID. 

[Thalia]

If it is the Wall, and I hope it is, it could be fun.  Felicia and Cirie should go first.  What would be really hilarious is if Jared decided he wanted to take another nap and jumped off after 15 minutes again.  But if they really do blindside Izzy and Co. it might even shake his complacency.  

Matt has superior strength, but he's a big guy and this comp doesn't seem to favor big people.  My guess is that America, Meme, Blue, or Cory probably would have the best chance of winning.  The four of them lasted the longest besides Cameron in the pressure cooker and all four have reason to want to win.  I'll be rooting for them to be the final 2 and for America to win just so it will shut Jared up.  I also look forward to Jared's excuse when he drops early.  

[Lady Calypso]

It's the Wall.

The biggest worry is that Blue is a prime candidate to win. She did REALLY well in Pressure Cooker and I do think she could do very well in the wall comp. 

America obviously did amazing in Pressure Cooker, but she could slip up, as could Mecole and Matt and Cory, who are the other ones who could do well.

The other worry is if Mecole or Matt win, Cirie can easily flip them back to her side, her social game is IMPECCABLE that way. So the only good scenario to solidify the new core alliance is America winning. She's the only one I trust to keep it together. Everyone else could be flipped back, regardless of their eyes being open tonight.

[Skooma]

So one guy (Cory) who can't maintain some basic discipline for a couple of weeks and wants to continue to humiliate himself on national TV with his exhibitionist behavior flips is what BB all comes down too?  Yep, that is about it.

[peachmangosteen]

45 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

I'm somewhat optimistic that this will work, but I think it's also likely that if it happens, it'll be a 9-0 vote to evict Izzy if Cirie concedes that she doesn't have the votes.

Yea, I think that’s what will ultimately happen. No matter who ends up evicted, it’ll be a 9-0 vote.

2 minutes ago, Skooma said:

So one guy (Cory) who can't maintain some basic discipline for a couple of weeks and wants to continue to humiliate himself on national TV with his exhibitionist behavior flips is what BB all comes down too?  Yep, that is about it.

[Brian Cronin]

Yeah, I got nothin' for that, either. 

[Gummo]

If Izzy goes tomorrow, vote numbers won't matter, lines will be clearly drawn and everyone will know what they are. 

[blixie]

Well shit I go to dinner and the whole house done woke the fuck up!! I'm still very nervous this will fall apart, 24 hours is an eternity. I got a read all back but I just tuned in and America was celebrating with Cory and said i know I gotta stop talking. I die. Cory also said he wishes it was Izzy/Jared. Cory, we all wish that.

[dizzyd]

Could it be possible that all our dreams for this flip can manifest to come true? It’s really a matter of life and death of BB25 imo. 🙏🙏🙏

[FlyingEgret]

Cam to Matt: Cirie ruined my and Red's personal relationship. Forever. On purpose. And I know that she knows that I know.

[blixie]

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Because of this we no longer have good campaigning as everyone feels comfortable/defeated and so it's half assed campaigning in which no one considers going scorched earth, or even mildly burned earth.

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Could it be possible that all our dreams for this flip can manifest to come true? 

We did manifest it and we will continue to manifest it I went to dinner for two hours I got campaigning and a legit blindside in the works. 

Cory: 'No flirting tonight" Is that what were calling it. 

[dizzyd]

It’s amazing to watch this rolling stone gathering speed. They’re already onto next week to nominate Cirie and Jared so they lose their brain or their brawn and unknowingly sever the umbilical cord. Would Izzy blab the secret if she walks out tomorrow seeing as she won’t have a jury influence? Would also be the 1st time Julie’s question will be different.

Edited September 13, 2023 by dizzyd

[invisiblegirl12]

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Would Izzy blab the secret if she walks out tomorrow seeing as she won’t have a jury influence?

She's got nothing to lose, and would go out as a legend that torpedoed the game on her way out. I can totally see it.

[kellog010]

Cory and America pretending they broke up. 

[Skooma]

26 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

Yeah, I got nothin' for that, either. 

You people are the ones saying Cory was fine with the original plan until he found out Izzy wanted to put up his so-called sweetheart next week.  Just going by what you all said.  He turned not because of some smart game play but because his "nether regions" told him to flip.

[HelpMeRondah]

I’ve been Team Fun Feeds all season, but I will not be able to handle if Cameron becomes a main character. I can’t remember e houseguest that has given me the icks so much before. He’s ruining the fun with his comments & chest beating. He had most of it figured out, but Curaçao helped him put the final pieces in place. Guess who is claiming the credit. 🤦‍♀️

[blixie]

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THREE YEARS?! How was that possible!?

I was Jesserica's #1 stan and I can't believe that it lasted that long.

 

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Cory telling Jag and Matt that he's known about Seven Deadly Sins for weeks is what flipped Jag completely and what has seemed to turn Matt.

I'm crying tears of joy, no more ROCK WITH THE SEVEN. 

Okay that Cirie Cory convo was great, I think Cirie is legit an Americory fan. 

America's convo with Izzy was sad, but that woman made her bed when she decided to become a Fields instead of a BB winner. Man the episode tonight is some kind of sideways pilot for Leo's game show while all hellzapoppin. Thursday should be two hours.

[Lady Calypso]

5 minutes ago, HelpMeRondah said:

I’ve been Team Fun Feeds all season, but I will not be able to handle if Cameron becomes a main character. I can’t remember e houseguest that has given me the icks so much before. He’s ruining the fun with his comments & chest beating. He had most of it figured out, but Curaçao helped him put the final pieces in place. Guess who is claiming the credit. 🤦‍♀️

I think what helps is that, despite what he thinks, not a single person in the actual house is giving him any sort of credit and all of them want him out next week, anyway. 

Cameron may think he's the mastermind but he's not; that would be America which, for her many MANY flaws, did something right by spilling the information she has, and getting lucky that Izzy showed her hand to Cory about America today.

The only downside is that the show will absolutely edit Cameron as the mastermind, and that is gonna cement him in the top three for AFP. But hopefully, the editors recognize that the feedsters will hate that and they give the proper edit to America.

[dizzyd]

2 minutes ago, HelpMeRondah said:

He had most of it figured out, but Curaçao helped him put the final pieces in place. Guess who is claiming the credit.

As much as I dislike him, he did get this in motion for this week on his own actually and shocked everyone with that nom ceremony and he did intend to bd Cirie but that failed. (I’m going to need to see tonights episode to find out how that pov went into the wrong hands). I will give him credit for this week. Now if 🇺🇸 can win the Wall, she can easily become the Fieldslayer and take all the credit next week. She already has my AFP vote. 

[Lady Calypso]

2 minutes ago, dizzyd said:

As much as I dislike him, he did get this in motion for this week on his own actually and shocked everyone with that nom ceremony and he did intend to bd Cirie but that failed. (I’m going to need to see tonights episode to find out how that pov went into the wrong hands). I will give him credit for this week. Now if 🇺🇸 can win the Wall, she can easily become the Fieldslayer and take all the credit next week. She already has my AFP vote. 

He put them up, sure, but he put up someone that Cirie had planted a target on last week, so in hindsight, he didn't REALLY do anything that didn't benefit Cirie already. Which makes it even more embarrassing for him if he tries to claim that he's done something. No, Cameron, you're still so on the outs, you didn't realize that Felicia was Cirie's next target anyway (after you). You just almost did her work for her....again. 

That's why I give credit to America more than Cameron. He put Izzy up, but without America, he would NOT have gotten Izzy out. It would have been a waste of a week for Cameron.

 

[peachmangosteen]

Like someone on Twitter said, Cameron’s HOH helped create an outsiders alliance to flip the game and he isn’t even a part of it lol.

[Lady Calypso]

1 minute ago, peachmangosteen said:

Like someone on Twitter said, Cameron’s HOH helped create an outsiders alliance to flip the game and he isn’t even a part of it lol.

If anything, it helped ENSURE the people worried about Camerica teaming up that it WON'T. America doesn't NEED Cameron if people like Jag and Matt actually want to work with her. She won't need to rely on a creep for numbers; she's now got numbers all on her own.

[peachmangosteen]

My other fave part of this day is that Jared has spent all of it in bed lol.

[Lady Calypso]

Yeah, it's officially, Meme is for SURE on board. She's telling Cory/Jag to NOT tell Felicia at all about the flip, because she knows she would ruin it.

Thank god for Meme.

Also, 100% skipping the episode right now. The feeds are way too hot right now to watch outdated information and Buddy Games promotion for two hours.

[blixie]

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Like someone on Twitter said, Cameron’s HOH helped create an outsiders alliance to flip the game and he isn’t even a part of it lol.

 

Yes this is exactly what Cory wanted Cam to do the dirty work more or less w/o having to promise him anything in terms of protecting or working together. America deserves the most credit, she was the chaos ball who pushed the first domino on Cam then she kept working on Cory. Even if Cam is an egotistical ick ball, him lecturing people about Izzy being more of a threat and part of a power alliance over and over was the right thing to do, and I think like Cory he wanted to assume people's self interest drives their game choices. He doesn't deserve much credit but he also doesn't deserve zero. Lord may the flipmeter ever be in our favor. Taran finally got one but why is the NYT sleeping?!

Edited September 14, 2023 by blixie

[Jillibean]

Please let Cory not mess this up by overselling his "breakup." 

[blixie]

Y'all people both need to keep being up Cirie's ass and also not talk to her. She gonna wonder where all her admirers are. LOL. She doesn't buy the Americory break up, he should have gone with she dumped me v. I dumped her.

[Lady Calypso]

Izzy: *whispers to camera* Did I mess up???

Me: Yes, yes you did.

[30 Helens]

I picked the absolute worst week to be out of town visiting family, because I cannot watch either feeds or episodes. So thanks for all the posts that are allowing for me to know I’m missing, although do you have to rub it with all the obvious enjoyment?

Although, since you were all able to manifest a flip, can you please manifest a 1-week postponement of the Wall? Thanks, love ya!

[blixie]

Izzy and Cirie are nervous, NOOO. Jag go tell Cirie how much you wanna Rock with the Seven!! Matt go talk to Cirie and Izzy and agree with every word they say, Bowie go interrupt them talking with Matt!

[HelpMeRondah]

1 hour ago, 30 Helens said:

Although, since you were all able to manifest a flip, can you please manifest a 1-week postponement of the Wall? Thanks, love ya!

Awww, I don’t know if we’re going to be able to help with that one. Quite of few reliable sources have confirmed the Wall comp for tomorrow. Have fun on your vacation & we’ll keep you updated!

Edited September 14, 2023 by HelpMeRondah
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[Gummo]

Dammit, Cory's overplaying.

This stupid breakup thing is completely unnecessary. It just adds needless complications and chances for a slipup.

[Jillibean]

3 minutes ago, Gummo said:

Dammit, Cory's overplaying.

This stupid breakup thing is completely unnecessary. It just adds needless complications and chances for a slipup.

America did pretty well with this high school acting exercise. Cory went too hard, I think. He should have played it as still angry but more reluctant, almost asking Cirie and Izzy for permission to keep her as his girlfriend and just not trust her with any info. And he could have told Izzy, she knows I'm upset; you'll probably get her vote now because she's trying to get me to not be mad at her. 

I really hope they make this work. Cory might be having just a bit too much fun with this. 

[Slider]

Meme to America: (smiling) Did we choose violence today? 
 

[Lady Calypso]

Well, it's been three hours and the flip is still holding, so that's a good sign.

Meme/America are having a nice conversation in the bathroom about the flip. I really would love to see them truly team up; they're both so smart, they'd be killers at the game. 

 

[Katesus7]

OMG, this house!! I still have three pages of jokers to catch up on but just reading all this? Days like today are why I will never quit Big Brother. And the fact that Izzy did it to her own damn self? She’s a fan! She should know how these dumbass showmances work! You never tell a showmance person you are planning to boot their showmance if you are currently on the block. That has GOT to be rule #1.

Rule #2? Be careful about the number of fake alliances you create, and don’t tell other fake alliances about the fake alliances you created, because eventually the members of the various fake alliances might compare notes and blab about knowing about fake alliances.

I actually want Izzy to stay. She’s a more compelling HG to me vs Felicia. And personally, she’s almost a dead ringer for my lovely niece so I was prepared going in this season to love her (they are NOTHING alike, but I still do a double take when I see her on the feeds).

But DAMN! Team good feeds until the end. I pray this holds and I pray it’s a blindside, but I feel one or more of Meme/Matt/Jag/Cory will blow this.

[dizzyd]

Blue has already spilled the edamame beans to Jared that 🇺🇸 is voting out Izzy. Could we really not make it through the night with happy dreams!

Edited September 14, 2023 by dizzyd

[kellog010]

Cerie is going to check in with Matt tonight to confirm his vote. This will be the final test. I'm afraid to sleep and miss anything. 

Cerie/Matt are talking now. So far Matt has not spilled anything. Vouching for Jag rocking with the 7. 

Edited September 14, 2023 by kellog010

[blixie]

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Blue has already spilled the edamame beans to Jared that 🇺🇸 is voting out Izzy.

How the fuck does Blue know or is that part of the plan? Hence why Cory and she broke up?

[kellog010]

1 minute ago, blixie said:

How the fuck does Blue know or is that part of the plan? Hence why Cory and she broke up?

Blue chatted with her to get the scoop from America and it was discussed. 

Edited September 14, 2023 by kellog010

[Katesus7]

Oh, and one last random word on Josh Duhamel. As mentioned, his first role was on All My Children. I was a HUGE fan of Leo and Greenlee back in the day (that’s right, I love my soaps, don’t judge!) Think Jeff/Jordan level of fan. I’ve always had a soft spot for him. I mean, not enough to watch his new lame game show, but you do you, boo!

[Auntie Velvet]

We won't judge, @Katesus7! In fact, I recognize one or two people on here from the GH board!

I've missed a few days so I'm just curious if most of the enthusiasm I'm seeing for the flip is because you just prefer Falicia to Izzy, or that you were sick of Cirie(and her two baby chicks) not having any real bumps in her road so far? 

[choclatechip45]

Wow. I came back from vacation with so much to catch up on! I think Cory is overselling this break up.