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After seven years, Meisha and Nicola finally meet; Christian and Cleo hope opposites attract; Razvan tests Amanda's jealousy; Gino suggests a prenup, and Jasmine explodes; Riley and Violet have their first date; David meets his honey babe, Sheila.

First Look: 23/06/23; TLC: 25/06/23; Discovery+: 25/06/23;

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What is Cleo’s accent? I thought they said she was from Italy but now living in the UK but she doesn’t sound like she’s from either place. 
And we got an unexpected glimpse of the producer and camera crew. 

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1 hour ago, magemaud said:

What is Cleo’s accent? I thought they said she was from Italy but now living in the UK but she doesn’t sound like she’s from either place. 
And we got an unexpected glimpse of the producer and camera crew. 

Yeah maybe she was raised in Italy by parents who spoke something other than Italian.  They spent a lot of time on the autism but haven’t mentioned that she’s trans yet and I don’t think she could pass as a cis female.

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11 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

Yeah maybe she was raised in Italy by parents who spoke something other than Italian.  They spent a lot of time on the autism but haven’t mentioned that she’s trans yet and I don’t think she could pass as a cis female.

I was wondering about the Adam's apple

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First Look.  So we meet Christian and Cleo.  He's a fun extroverted swinging guy and she is an introverted autistic and trans. But so far they concentrate on her autism and love of astrology.  Her friend seems a bit odd. We got a glimpse of behind the curtain and saw production crew (i think that was the highlight for me in this sneak peek!). Crew seemed a bit awkward about being talked to.


We found out that Gino must have took one of his little blue pills and woke Jasmine up with his little purple eggplant.  Again, Gino had trouble finishing what he started.  That could be because of the little blue pill and the fact that Gino is so use to being alone with Mr. Lefty and porn that he just cannot finish. I can't understand Gino's financials. The guy is cheap. But he's ok with paying for sugar babies and paying for their time to spend it with him which must cost a fair bit of money.  But he's not ok with spending money on his wife so she looks like a sugar baby.  I wonder if Gino is still funding his sugar baby habit and trying to cut costs with Jasmine.


We did see a sneak peek of slime ball Riley who has this game with  Violet on whomever touches the other first loses. To me that adds more fuel to the fire that the the guy is a major douche bag. 
 

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54 minutes ago, greekmom said:

Gino must have took one of his little blue pills

53 seems a little young for that.

56 minutes ago, greekmom said:

this game with  Violet on whomever touches the other first loses

Became the ladies can’t keep their hands off him donchaknow?

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1 hour ago, greekmom said:

But he's ok with paying for sugar babies

A cast member from last season of Temptation Island broke up with the fiancée and put a profile on a sugar baby website called (I kid you not) whatsyourprice.com.  Men bid for dates.  Some guy paid $500 to have brunch with her (on top of the check) and she is now dating him.

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On 6/24/2023 at 9:40 AM, RedLA said:

Did I hear correctly?  Gino and Jasmine have only had sex SEVEN times?  I misheard, right?

I was appalled by Gino's rejection of Jasmine. Was that there first night together this trip? He was like a baby hiding his head in the pillow. There are excuses, and there is this. Jasmine was being kind and patient but that won't last forever. I don't buy that Gino feels like she orders him around and so that makes her sexually unappealing to him. With the kitchen peeler, she had to keep repeating to him that she didn't have anything else and he was refusing to use anything other than that ---- grow up. I'd be annoyed with him and wouldn't have shown that much patience. Gino looks at it like she's seriously disrespecting him, not realizing that he can test anyone's patience with his closed mind and attitude.

I missed last week's show because I was on vacation, but saw it yesterda  before tonight's 20 min preview show, so hopefully I'm commenting on the new show.

I know Jasmine is dramatic but I can't help liking her. (Of course that can always change; I hated her during her last tell-all).

 

 

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Regarding Gino and helping Jasmine with the dinner prep: I would have refused to peel vegetables with the knife she expected him to use. A paring knife, fine. But a knife with a 7" blade? Absolutely not. That's dangerous. I'm not gonna risk losing the tip of a finger to peel a potato.

But honestly, dinner prep issues are the very least of their problems. (I'll probably write more about them later).

Amanda and Razvan: if you're a woman and the least bit insecure, don't try to have a relationship with a bartender, DJ, musician, actor, etc. Success in all of these fields depends, in part, on flirting with women. Do you really think it's fair to get involved with someone and then pressure them to stop doing what they enjoy - what they've found some success doing? 

When a man starts telling a woman what she can and cannot do; who she can and cannot hang out with, we properly label that behavior "controlling". But when women do the same to men in the name of jealousy (which comes from insecurity), I rarely see people condemn it with as much fervor. Why? 

I don't think women - or men - should pander to a partner's insecurities. 

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17 minutes ago, TwirlyGirly said:

Regarding Gino and helping Jasmine with the dinner prep: I would have refused to peel vegetables with the knife she expected him to use. A paring knife, fine. But a knife with a 7" blade? Absolutely not. That's dangerous. I'm not gonna risk losing the tip of a finger to peel a potato.

But honestly, dinner prep issues are the very least of their problems. (I'll probably write more about them later).

Amanda and Razvan: if you're a woman and the least bit insecure, don't try to have a relationship with a bartender, DJ, musician, actor, etc. Success in all of these fields depends, in part, on flirting with women. Do you really think it's fair to get involved with someone and then pressure them to stop doing what they enjoy - what they've found some success doing? 

When a man starts telling a woman what she can and cannot do; who she can and cannot hang out with, we properly label that behavior "controlling". But when women do the same to men in the name of jealousy (which comes from insecurity), I rarely see people condemn it with as much fervor. Why? 

I don't think women - or men - should pander to a partner's insecurities. 

Yes and there are cheaters in every profession.  The lead-up is just less public than with those who have fans/groupies.

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Amanda had no business on social media looking for a partner.  That woman needs to be in therapy.  I believe she kept rebuffing Razvan because she either felt guilty or realized she made a mistake in going to Romania.  

I hope Gino has the good sense to insist that Jasmine signs a prenup before they get married.  If her ex was so great, I wonder why they aren't still together.  

I knew something was different about Cleo, but I wasn't expecting her to be autistic.  However, I don't know about Christian.  I think she is in for ride. 

 

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54 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

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I knew something was different about Cleo, but I wasn't expecting her to be autistic.  However, I don't know about Christian.  I think she is in for ride

I don't think Christian will be riding her at all. 😉

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I have to confess, this is one of those times when I dislike someone for how they "appear" rather than for who they are. I'm hoping I begin to like Amanda, but right now, I can't stand watching when she's on. I realize she probably has RBF, but she just seems miserable. She's reading too much into the random things a 4 year old says. She's also expecting others to follow her strict diet, when that's on her. Why didn't she send him a list of foods she can eat. So far, she seems to turn up her nose at everything, and I don't see what Razan sees in her. (But for that matter, I don't know what she sees in him, either.)

1 hour ago, TwirlyGirly said:

I don't think Christian will be riding her at all. 😉

I like Cleo's complete honesty (a nice attribute of autism) but I think Christian will struggle with being straight forward about anything. She considers herself "odd" whereas I see Christian as being odd. As well, any guy who runs that hot and cold, so quickly, isn't in it for the long haul. I'm not sure what his real end game is, but I'm sure we'll find out.

Does anyone else think Gino has autism? I figured with his way of speaking, and his various tics, he might have Asperger's.

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2 hours ago, Adeejay said:

I knew something was different about Cleo, but I wasn't expecting her to be autistic.  However, I don't know about Christian.  I think she is in for ride. 

Just due to my counseling experiences, I immediately recognized Cleo has certain trans characteristics, but I initially checked myself for arriving at that conclusion so quickly. But when she stated it halfway through the show, I thought, okay. However, if Cleo hasn't had her reassignment surgery, I don't know how fair this relationship will be, or whether there's even a future.

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12 minutes ago, Chalby said:

However, if Cleo hasn't had her reassignment surgery, I don't know how fair this relationship will be, or whether there's even a future.

I’m no expert but I thought most do not get the surgery.  There are still ways to have sex.

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I forgot to add that I couldn't stand Gino and Jasmine last year, and guess what? I still can't stand them. This show is now a joke where really bad actors get to pretend they're in a mini series, acting out all their Hollywood fantasies. Please go away.

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On 6/25/2023 at 11:24 PM, MrBuhBye said:

I’m no expert but I thought most do not get the surgery.  There are still ways to have sex.

Not if he's saying he's insisting he's "straight AF". That comment alone was very biased. I'm hetero, but even I recognize the beauty of my own gender. I question the validity of Christian's interest.

Frankly, the word transgender was never used 20 years ago. You were either transsexual, or not. Transgender is now being used both in place of transsexual,  transvestism, cross dressing and sometimes even for drag. That's too confusing for many people.

(I actually miss the LGBTQ language of the 2000s. Nowadays it's too micro-defined, without being actually being defined)

If we were to address Cleo's situation, we'd determine she's transexual if she's planning to have, or has had, gender reassignment surgery.

If Cleo has not had the surgery, she is a cross dresser. Both possibilities are fine because it allows the potential suitor to understand what is needed of them. Just being "trans" doesn't allow any insight into what is expected of a mate.

I'd like to think if I were young and dating, I'd be more "pansexual" than anything, as I do fall in love with "the person". But I'd want to know what was expected of me, sexually, otherwise, what's the point? I don't need more "friends".

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On 6/25/2023 at 3:00 PM, Breedom said:

Jasmine was being kind and patient but that won't last forever. I don't buy that Gino feels like she orders him around and so that makes her sexually unappealing to him.

I had to chuckle because I've yet to see Jasmine be kind ever re: Gino and sex. I get why she's clinging to him as no normal man would put up with her nonsense, but surely she can see that Gino's interest in her goes beyond sex.

Why does she have to perseverate on whether they're having sex, or not? If you don't like that he's unable to perform, leave the poor man alone. But this blowing up at him, and then turning on the tears to manipulate him more...? God, Gino - grow a pair and punt her out the door.

On 6/23/2023 at 8:25 PM, magemaud said:

What is Cleo’s accent? I thought they said she was from Italy but now living in the UK but she doesn’t sound like she’s from either place. 
And we got an unexpected glimpse of the producer and camera crew. 

I just assumed that her flat affect and monotone voice was due to autism.

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Cleo/Christian.  First I mentioned this in the chat but I am thinking these two might just be in it for the social media exposure and not really a couple.  If anyone is interested, there is a rom com called Boy Meets Girl (i think it's on tubi for free) about a trans woman. Kind of sad at points.  Warning there is a shot of her fully naked at one point.  

Riley continues to be a douchebag.  The pearls looked like they were purchased from Walmart or Target.  

Amanda continues to be a wet blanket.  Honestly, why doesnt she just call it quits, go to a hotel for the rest of the stay in Romania and explore the city?  Or get an early ticket home.

Gino and Jasmine continue to argue over a prenush which is stupid because Jasmine can get a lawyer and get the prenush to protect herself regardless on who calls it quits first.  Otherwise, just don't marry Gino.  Really - girl has options and has the upper hand in this relationship. 

David and Sheila.  They look like they really do like eachother. Don't fuck this up for me TLC.

 

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A poster on Reddit has captured a slo-mo of Gino "writing" the pre-nup.  His pen never touches the paper. 

We're doing God's work over there, you should join us.  

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12 minutes ago, Quof said:

A poster on Reddit has captured a slo-mo of Gino "writing" the pre-nup.  His pen never touches the paper. 

We're doing God's work over there, you should join us.  

He had to go into the bathroom to get the pen to work.

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OK, of all these couples, I think only David and Sheila and Riley & Violet are "real" couples. The rest are in this looking for exposure to either advance some entertainment career or build a career as an influencer. 

Christian----just wants to show the world how edgy he is by dating a trans woman. Cleo wants to advance her modeling career and probably thinks she can be the first trans supermodel. I did LOL when he said if he didn't tell his friends and family that Cleo is trans, they wouldn't know. I knew within 5 mins of seeing her on the tv----the strange inflection in her voice (combo of hormones and trying to sound feminine), and oh yeah, the visible Adam's apple. I see these two as the same as Alina (Russian little person) with the dude from AZ who's name I can't remember. Not going to have any real chemistry when they actually meet and just sort of plod along showing us all how difficult life is living as a trans person. 

Amanda---already trying to build her social media influencer career. She bitches she wants "American food" but then also "I don't eat any processed foods." Um, well turn in your southern girl card woman. She totally wants to be "look at me y'all, just a young widow, trying to raise my kids right and in a healthy way in the south. Follow me for tips." Razvan is the Romanian Soulja Boy, but he does actually seem to like Amanda and has been putting in effort, which Usman didn't do for either one of his marks, er, "fiances". Oh and yeah, she has big time RBF and is a moron. 

I don't blame Riley for being a little annoyed that his first full day she has stuff to do after such a long trip. I think Violet is sort of playing hard to get, but it may backfire with this one. I did LOL at his gift and her lack of reaction. Yeah, they were NOT real pearls, not on an elastic band. Then again, he did spend $$$ a lot on his plane ticket and I am sure has sent her $$ over the years so...would it have killed her to give him a kiss that he at least made a gesture? I mean, I am sure Jasmine saw this and thought WTF, be grateful he didn't show up with an electric toothbrush bish! 

Nicola----WTF does Meisha see in him? There have to be Catholic zealots that are at least attractive and dont' seem so....stunted. She is a bit wacky, but she is very attractive and seems successful. She could do a lot better than this dolt. I think this is to kick start some sort of career back home, maybe as a hostess on the Catholic tv station (forget the name)? Her amount of luggage and shoes was just insanity. 

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They spent a lot of time on the autism but haven’t mentioned that she’s trans yet and I don’t think she could pass as a cis female.

Cleo said she was trans. It was a blink-and-you-miss-it statement, but she did say that. 

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I’m no expert but I thought most do not get the surgery.  There are still ways to have sex.

I imagine many people can't afford it, for starters. 

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I was appalled by Gino's rejection of Jasmine. Was that there first night together this trip? He was like a baby hiding his head in the pillow. There are excuses, and there is this. Jasmine was being kind and patient but that won't last forever. I don't buy that Gino feels like she orders him around and so that makes her sexually unappealing to him. With the kitchen peeler, she had to keep repeating to him that she didn't have anything else and he was refusing to use anything other than that ---- grow up. I'd be annoyed with him and wouldn't have shown that much patience. Gino looks at it like she's seriously disrespecting him, not realizing that he can test anyone's patience with his closed mind and attitude.

It was their first night. Gino said that he was too stressed about Jasmine's financial demands to want sex - which I can sort of believe. I'm sure he is spending every dime he has on her. In addition to his own costs in the US, he is paying $3,000/month for her apartment and, I think, all of her other costs. So he's worried about that plus his belief that his rather modest home in the US won't be enough for her when they get there (and he is right - it won't be). 

I don't think that Jasmine was being "kind and patient." I think that Jasmine believes her only value to a man is as a sex partner (which is sad). So when she can't engage Gino sexually, I think she worries she will lose him - her meal ticket.  I have a hard time being concerned for either one of them as I think they are both using each other to get what they want. They would be better off just being straightforward about that and negotiating from there.

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Gino and Jazmine: I can't even stand to watch them...both are unlikable...her voice grates on me and she usually ends up yelling...her acting is over the top and i'm over it...that $3500 hair?? Not worth it...women were able to attract men long before extensions became a "thing"...i'm sick of seeing it on reality TV...if Gino flat out dumped her and pulled his financial support, i would cheer (and laugh)...it's the only thing that could make him look like a man at this point

As for Cleo, everytime she's on I feel i'm looking at Marilyn Manson's sister...the eyes...the shape of the face...am I the only one?

Amanda shouldn't be involved with anyone at this point, but can't she even try to be nice? She was taken to a beautiful park, but complained about the birds...really? That poor guy...at least he's trying...he tried to involve her with his video and she flat out turned him down...and yet wants to whine about if another woman is in the video...and btw, how long was that phone call to his producer (or whatever the f he was)...the sun was out when the call started, yet dark when it ended...weird editing

The deaf guy (david?) and Sheila? I give her lots of credit for not only knowing a fair bit of English, but she also has learned some sign language...good for her! Lots of 90 dayers could learn a lesson there

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8 hours ago, Chalby said:

I just assumed that her flat affect and monotone voice was due to autism.

I think you might be onto something. Cleo described how she used to stand in front of a mirror and rehearse what she was going to say in social situations. Her odd speech pattern and inflection could all be a learned affectation. 

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1 hour ago, Drogo said:

In case you missed the episode, here's a quick visual recap! 

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They almost never have lingering shots of people eating on reality shows.  Production must really hate Jasmine to show her deep throating that veggie wrap multiple times.

1 hour ago, Pixilicious said:

Not worth it...women were able to attract men long before extensions became a "thing"

I know hair grows slowly but can’t you gradually grow your own and phase out the extensions?  I’m thinking Crystal Gayle lol.

1 hour ago, Pixilicious said:

Marilyn Manson's sister...the eyes...the shape of the face

If Marilyn and the Queen robot had a kid.

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1 hour ago, Pixilicious said:

complained about the birds...really

Did she really think bats are birds?

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20 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

They almost never have lingering shots of people eating on reality shows

Maybe the camera crew is used to working on "My 600 Lb. Life" 

Meisha and Nicola are such "God Botherers"! Seriously, praying that his car doesn't break down? Why not just a quick prayer for "safe travels" without being so specific? I think God has more important prayers to answer than taking care of your car maintenance for you. 

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7 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

Nicola----WTF does Meisha see in him?

Based on my experience at a religious college: there are some women that think if they can get the pious guy that no other woman has been with it must mean that that said woman is a super special bible barbie and they are the ultimate religious “it” couple.  Sadly, those women are too stupid to realize that the guy hasn’t been touched by a woman because he isn’t desirable to 99.5% of the population.  There is something really, really, really off about Meisha and I’m surprised she is able to hold down a job and raise kids.  Bless her heart.

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1 hour ago, Drogo said:

Cleo was raised in Italy, moved to London, and now somehow sounds like someone John McClane dropped off the top floor of the Nakatomi building.  

I was confused by Cleo's accent. It sounds like a combination of several different European accents mixed in with the speech patterns of someone who was born deaf, but learned to speak. I was pretty horrified by Christian and his band of transphobic hipsters' discussion of Cleo's body parts, though. And Christian is such a chivalrous gentleman that he just let that shit happen with zero pushback! What. A. Putz. Cleo seems super vulnerable and Christian is already steamrolling over her privacy. I don't care how curious they are, Cleo's genitalia and sexual function are nobody's business but her own and her partner's. Mr. Hipster Waxed Mustache reduced Cleo to an object with "titties and a dick," as though her body is the sum total of who she is. People like Cleo need champions in their lives. People who speak up when others try to dehumanize or 'otherize' trans people. Christian is not one of those champions.

It's pretty clear that Meisha is going to have to be both wife and mommy to Nicola. She's going to have to teach him how to have sex - I can't imagine anything less sexy.

Seems to me that if Jasmine was really not interested in any financial gain from marrying Gino, she'd have no problem signing the prenup as he'd laid it out. Genuinely - it seems like she feels entitled to compensation for being with Gino.

Ugh, Amanda just go home already. Nothing pleases you. Dude makes you pancakes, you shit on them. Dude takes you to a beautiful park, you bitch about there being too many birds and question him about it, like it's his fault. Is that what guys are into? Some almost-beautiful girl to be a total bitch to them 24/7?

David & Sheila's story has just made me smile a lot so far. I've got no snark for either of them. Yet! 

I also smile a lot at Riley & Violet, but he's being a tad much. So what if she isn't spending every second with him? Her own life doesn't stop just because he came to visit. I just want him to relax, but that doesn't seem to be a speed he operates on. He gon fuck this up for himself, I can already see it. Especially if/when she finds out about the P.I.

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I’m looking at Jazmin and wondering how much hair does this bush need? I think she’d look better with half the hair. I was surprised she was 35. I thought she was about ten years older. Gino’s money is her main goal, because it ain’t sex. These two are so weird and unlikeable. 

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4 minutes ago, Kiss my mutt said:

I’m looking at Jazmin and wondering how much hair does this bush need?

I asked this during Live Chat last night. If she has a full head of extensions, why does she need more? Is she going to change the length or color of her hair? I know they need to be re-attached eventually, but do extensions wear out? 

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31 minutes ago, FrancescaFiore said:

Genuinely - it seems like she feels entitled to compensation for being with Gino.

She admitted that her ex husband hid his money when they divorced so she clearly is looking to make sure that doesn’t happen again.  The thing with a prenup is that either side can argue that one is not needed or what is the harm in having one if the marriage lasts.  But we all know that a huge number fail and presumably most people at the time of marriage think it won’t happen to them.

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4 minutes ago, magemaud said:

but do extensions wear out? 

Yes. The hair gets damaged through wear and heat styling etc. It also sheds over time (depending on the kind of extensions they are - sewn-in wefts last longer than microbeads) making the overall hair less voluminous. When I was still getting extensions, I paid about $300 for each package of hair and used about 6 packages. I'm itty-bitty and have a smaller head, so 6 did the trick for me, but it was ridiculously expensive. 

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went ballistic when it had a clause for cheating

Her rage made no sense. She said "so if you cheat on me, I can't leave"(because she gets less if she is the one to end the marriage).  The clause purportedly said she wouldn't get less for initiating the divorce if he cheated. 

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Razvan is a good-looking guy.  He is from Romania which is part of the European Union.  He can travel around the world somewhat freely.  He has a visa for the US, which he obtained without Amanda’s help.  I don’t understand why he is wasting his time with her.  She is a wet blanket.  If he wants to move to boost his career, I am sure there are thousands of women in Europe and the US who would be happy to have him. 

I tend to tune out Gino and Jasmine.  Their interactions do not seem real.  It's as if they are reading from cue cards.  

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Jasmine's cry! Haven't heard such a fakey cry since Lucy accidentally destroyed William Holden's footprints on "I Love Lucy!"  (Or was it John Wayne's? I don't remember...I was little!)

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9 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

I don't blame Riley for being a little annoyed that his first full day she has stuff to do after such a long trip. I think Violet is sort of playing hard to get, but it may backfire with this one. I did LOL at his gift and her lack of reaction. Yeah, they were NOT real pearls, not on an elastic band.

So far I like Riley and would also feel annoyed if the person I traveled across the world to see made other plans on day #2. I don't like Violet. I think she said to her girlfriends that she "liked to tease men" to get them mad.  How charming and cute. Not. Agree that the pearl jewelry was very cheap, but still, could Violet have taken the high road and shown some appreciation? I guess she expected expensive gold jewelry and what she received was a step above garbage that meant nothing to her. I don't know Riley's budget but maybe this was the best he could do. Plus many men don't have a clue about jewelry and don't want to shell out much.

It didn't take long for Jasmine to lose it over the prenup. To have a yelling fit and then telling Gino she flat out wasn't going to marry him if they had one --- pay attention, Gino, this is a big red flag. Then he tried to renegotiate, but Jasmine wouldn't have it. She has no idea what a simple life Gino has back at home in his modest home. She's not going to go for it; she wants to live very well and not on her dime. Gino, don't touch your 401K. And if she truly loves you, she needs to consider getting a job. Or does she have one?

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15 minutes ago, lilysmom said:

Jasmine's cry! Haven't heard such a fakey cry since Lucy accidentally destroyed William Holden's footprints on "I Love Lucy!"  (Or was it John Wayne's? I don't remember...I was little!)

She pushed a pie into William Holden's face, then lit her own fake nose on fire later on.  It was indeed John Wayne's footprints she (and little Ricky) destroyed.

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