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We all have been drawn into off-topic discussions, me included. There's little that's off-topic when it comes to Chit Chat, so the only ask is that you please remember that this is the Chit Chat topic and that there's a subforum for all things health and wellness here.

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On 12/19/2024 at 1:21 AM, Quof said:

I hate when people say "Oh, by the time you get to that point, you don't even care who is looking at your business."

That's like saying "By the time you've been shot and stabbed, you don't care if you get kicked in the head."  

Getting to a point where you are so bereft of privacy and dignity that you just don't give a damn anymore who is looking at your genitals?  Don't try to convince me that is acceptable or even tolerable.

I didn't mind them looking "at my business", but the fact that none of the books mentioned the pooping meant I was horrified when that happened (to me, not the baby meconium).

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25 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

I got invited to do Amazon "Vine" reviews. 
Has anyone here ever done that?
Someone on Reddit who just quit doing the reviews said most of the free stuff they got was not something they would have purchased. 
So it sounds like a waste of time for more clutter. 

I keep getting asked to do reviews. If I like something, I will do a review, but I don't want to be sent something I don't want.

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shapeshifter

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1 hour ago, nokat said:

I keep getting asked to do reviews. If I like something, I will do a review, but I don't want to be sent something I don't want.

It seems if I accept their offer to become a Vine reviewer, I get to choose from a list of items to be sent to me to review. A commenter on the Reddit AmazonVine sub said:

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very little is stuff I'd have otherwise bought. Even when it is, it isn't the exact thing I would have bought, but a compromise. If I had to pay, I'd rather pay more and get exactly what I want.

  
Here's more about it: amazon.com/vine/invitation
I think I got invited because I order a lot of stuff on Amazon (since the pandemic and moving to the boondocks and having to haul everything I bring home up a flight of stairs from the basement where the condo garage is) and I do write reviews for items if I think it would be helpful, but not for everything.
Plus, writing is something like breathing for me and my family — heh, sometimes writing is easier than breathing.

So it's tempting, but might just be a time suck, and I already have enough of those.😉

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EtheltoTillie

EtheltoTillie

 

It seems if I accept their offer to become a Vine reviewer, I get to choose from a list of items to be sent to me to review. A commenter on the Reddit AmazonVine sub said:

  
Here's more about it: amazon.com/vine/invitation
I think I got invited because I order a lot of stuff on Amazon (since the pandemic and moving to the boondocks and having to haul everything I bring home up a flight of stairs from the basement where the condo garage is) and I do write reviews for items if I think it would be helpful, but not for everything.
Plus, writing is something like breathing for me and my family — heh, sometimes writing is easier than breathing.

So it's tempting, but might just be a time suck, and I already have enough of those.😉

Writing is like breathing for me too in a way, but it still takes too long to edit and write something decent. Hence my many drive-by posts here. So I’d probably also consider it not worth the time. 

I have a friend who has been sucked into taking surveys for medical issues (she’s a doctor). She does not get much for the time spent but she is so manipulated by the system she doesn’t do the math correctly. 

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shapeshifter

shapeshifter

4 minutes ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Writing is like breathing for me too in a way, but it still takes too long to edit and write something decent. Hence my many drive-by posts here. So I’d probably also consider it not worth the time. 

I have a friend who has been sucked into taking surveys for medical issues (she’s a doctor). She does not get much for the time spent but she is so manipulated by the system she doesn’t do the math correctly. 

Thanks for the good points. 
I think I'll let it go for now.
About 10 years ago I was apparently one of very few reference and instruction librarians who was able to answer all of the questions to complete a survey from a publisher of academic journals in the field of social sciences, specifically regarding their use in library instruction.
A very esoteric survey! 
Anyhoo, I won an iPad for my efforts to share my very esoteric knowledge, LOL.
Best prize ever.
Well, I also won a pair of sewing scissors in a store drawing about 40 years ago that still work, so maybe 2nd best prize ever. 😉

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Ancaster

Ancaster

9 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

Thanks for the good points. 
I think I'll let it go for now.
About 10 years ago I was apparently one of very few reference and instruction librarians who was able to answer all of the questions to complete a survey from a publisher of academic journals in the field of social sciences, specifically regarding their use in library instruction.
A very esoteric survey! 
Anyhoo, I won an iPad for my efforts to share my very esoteric knowledge, LOL.
Best prize ever.
Well, I also won a pair of sewing scissors in a store drawing about 40 years ago that still work, so maybe 2nd best prize ever. 😉

Presumably you can try it and quit at any point?  You never know, you might score one of those handy sewing un-pickers to go with your scissors.   😄

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shapeshifter

shapeshifter

Just now, Ancaster said:

Presumably you can try it and quit at any point?  You never know, you might score one of those handy sewing un-pickers to go with your scissors.   😄

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Hah! I still have a seam ripper, although it's a bit dull from all the seams I had to rip out when I'd get distracted and either sew wrong sides together or one right and one wrong side together instead of the correct right sides together. 🙃😊

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Caoimhe

Caoimhe

5 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

Hah! I still have a seam ripper, although it's a bit dull from all the seams I had to rip out when I'd get distracted and either sew wrong sides together or one right and one wrong side together instead of the correct right sides together. 🙃😊

I have at least five I can think of right now, my favourites are the scalpel-type ones since I can just replace the blades.  I recall reading somewhere that some tailors will use a razor blade to cut stitches, I don’t trust myself that far!

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Caoimhe

Caoimhe

2 minutes ago, EtheltoTillie said:

I'm scared of those scalpel ones.  I have one like the one pictured above.  I actually have three.

If you line them up just right between two pieces of fabric you can run it all the way down the seam and it’s done!  If you line it up wrong you just ruin stuff and I’ve done that too. I have one Havel, one Tula Pink, and one Kai like that plus two Gingher equivalents (that are just NOT sharp enough to skim down a seam). I also have a pair of Superior Snippers that are helpful when I can’t use the scalpel ones.  I somehow managed to lose TWO pairs of those (I no longer allow the trash bin to be within reach of my machine) so I’m on my third pair of those.  Then I have the old-style “normal” seam rippers but I don’t even know where they are.

Obviously my sewing is very far from perfect! 🤣

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Ancaster

Ancaster

29 minutes ago, Caoimhe said:

 

Obviously my sewing is very far from perfect! 🤣

Obviously a lot better than mine because you have terrifying scalpels and other equipment.  And you may be able to tell my level because I didn't know the proper name for seam stripper.  I have one that I use mainly to take out labels, which irritate me and make me itch.

I can (and do) sew on buttons, so there's that.

Can I just say that I love this thread (pun not intended, but apt) and there are some days when it really keeps my spirits up.  So thank you everyone.

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Dimity

Dimity

My high school graduating class is having a big reunion this spring and I just got some links to it.  I was shocked to see how old some of my former classmates look.  Poor things.  I probably won't attend - I'd hate to rub it in that I've remained youthful and fresh faced when they clearly have not.

Of course there is the barest possibility that the mirrors in my house have been lying to me...

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PRgal

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51 minutes ago, Dimity said:

My high school graduating class is having a big reunion this spring and I just got some links to it.  I was shocked to see how old some of my former classmates look.  Poor things.  I probably won't attend - I'd hate to rub it in that I've remained youthful and fresh faced when they clearly have not.

Of course there is the barest possibility that the mirrors in my house have been lying to me...

I went to my 25th a couple of years ago.  Most of us looked our age - 42/43 at the time - but for those of us who were mothers (this is a girls-only school), we seemed to be in varying stages of parenthood.  One gal had her first child young and showed us pictures of her daughter in her prom dress while others had very young children!  My little guy was about to wrap up Junior Kindergarten that year.  He's now in Grade 1.  While there, we saw some women who were attending their 50th and we were all like "will we be like those ladies in 25 years?"  My 30th will be in 2028.  

fastiller

fastiller

Last year I went to my 35th.  I held out on attending reunions until my 30th.  We all look quite well.  We look our age, to be sure, but well.

My Secondary School does these as Old Scholar Weekends, thru the OS Organisation.  Anyone from any year is welcome at all OS weekends, but they really do focus on the fives & tens.  For some reason, my year always has a strong showing.

Joining us for the 2023 OS weekend were a few folks who were 60 years out (Class of '63).  So, they were in their late 80s.
Also notable at the 2023 OS was in the in memoriam section: Sinéad O'Connor, who attended for a brief time in the early-mid '80s.  OS was just a few months after she died, so she was a big presence for the weekend.

These weekends are planned for both days. On the Saturday there's usually some kind of sporting event like the OS field hockey match, followed by dinner at a nearby hotel.  Sunday has additional activities on campus, including a tree planting ceremony, and if you want to, for even more nostalgia: Sunday Dinner in the school dining room.  I did that last bit at the 30th, with about a half dozen of my year. We sat at the same table we did back in 6th Form. Was kinda surreal to be going thru the line, tray in hand, as we did for all those meals: breakfast, dinner, tea; for all those years.
 

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We're in the throes of Christmas Eve and Hanukkah is already out with at least the "shrub" lit and decorated and some presents are on the table.  My daughter tries to keep each holiday in a separate room and the menorahs won't come out until sundown tomorrow. Meanwhile kids are showering and will soon get to open their "early Christmas present" which as usual is Christmas pajamas.  I bought them last February! 

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Cloud9Shopper

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Does anyone else hate group pictures, or am I alone in that? I understand why they’re so important to people, in a way, but in another I just hate how you can’t not be in them.

I went to church tonight and the choir director is big on group photos. He wants to take one after every special Mass and it grinds my gears. And you are not allowed to say no thank you. One other girl tried to decline and everyone was like no come on you HAVE to! I’m also short so I had to stand in the front row. I wanted to hide in the back but my mom was like oh don’t hide come on! And oh, also, three different people were taking the picture. Meanwhile mostly everyone else in the church had gone home. I hate the badgering, you MUST be in this picture or the world will end and we HAVE to take one because we didn’t do it last year! Did anyone really miss it besides the choir director? (He is one of those people who takes pictures of everything. Many of our event photos are people eating or giving the camera blank/WTF looks because he’s always taking pics.)

I just hate my body right now (lost 50 pounds, gained it all back plus a few) and hate the forced nature of these pictures and how you can’t decline to be in them. And because I’m short I get shoved up front. And I hate them when you just want to go home and put pajamas on. But at the same time, now I feel really guilty for getting upset and letting it ruin my night to the point where I’m sitting here in tears. And I feel bad that I was kinda snippy with my mom when she wanted a picture of us in front of the altar. Maybe I can suggest we try another one in front of the tree at home tomorrow or again after Mass on Sunday (not like they are going to take the decorations down that fast)? No one will know or care if we take it on Sunday instead when there’s not as much pressure. 

 

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Ancaster

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2 hours ago, Cloud9Shopper said:

Does anyone else hate group pictures, or am I alone in that? I understand why they’re so important to people, in a way, but in another I just hate how you can’t not be in them.

I went to church tonight and the choir director is big on group photos. He wants to take one after every special Mass and it grinds my gears. And you are not allowed to say no thank you. One other girl tried to decline and everyone was like no come on you HAVE to!

 

Since you know it's going to happen, could you just grab your coat as soon as practice is over and scurry away, calling over your shoulder, "Sorry.  Gotta go.  I'm meeting someone/expecting a phone call/need my ice cream fix," or some such excuse?

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Cloud9Shopper

Cloud9Shopper

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7 hours ago, Ancaster said:

 

Since you know it's going to happen, could you just grab your coat as soon as practice is over and scurry away, calling over your shoulder, "Sorry.  Gotta go.  I'm meeting someone/expecting a phone call/need my ice cream fix," or some such excuse?

I actually did put my coat on after Mass and my mom (who was also singing with the choir) told me “now come on take your coat off!” The other girl who didn’t want to be in the photo also tried standing near the photographers rather than getting in with the group. She wasn’t rude or complaining; she just stood quietly away from the group. And everyone was like come on so and so, get in here! They would not take it without her. 

These people are obsessed with their pictures. No is not an option to them. 

It hasn’t just happened at church either. When I have tried to decline to have my picture taken at family gatherings, I am always told I have to smile and just suck it up and let my dad or uncle or whoever take the picture. Or I get lectured for having an attitude because we have to do a photo with my grandparents who won’t be here much longer.

I will get photos taken other times, but I have to want to be in it or in the right mood. I’ve even thought about buying myself a photo shoot when I feel more confident in my own skin (I want the casual/posed versions of senior pictures I never got to have in high school and have the photoshoot experience.) But I hate the forced you MUST be in this picture and you don’t have a choice because the choir director/Mom or Dad/Grandma/aunt and uncle said so. 

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Ancaster

Ancaster

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5 hours ago, Cloud9Shopper said:

I actually did put my coat on after Mass and my mom (who was also singing with the choir) told me “now come on take your coat off!” The other girl who didn’t want to be in the photo also tried standing near the photographers rather than getting in with the group. She wasn’t rude or complaining; she just stood quietly away from the group. And everyone was like come on so and so, get in here! They would not take it without her. 

These people are obsessed with their pictures. No is not an option to them. 

It hasn’t just happened at church either. When I have tried to decline to have my picture taken at family gatherings, I am always told I have to smile and just suck it up and let my dad or uncle or whoever take the picture. Or I get lectured for having an attitude because we have to do a photo with my grandparents who won’t be here much longer.

I will get photos taken other times, but I have to want to be in it or in the right mood. I’ve even thought about buying myself a photo shoot when I feel more confident in my own skin (I want the casual/posed versions of senior pictures I never got to have in high school and have the photoshoot experience.) But I hate the forced you MUST be in this picture and you don’t have a choice because the choir director/Mom or Dad/Grandma/aunt and uncle said so. 

Maybe just tell your mom, "I'll wait for you in the car" and leave?  Perhaps that small act of standing up for yourself like that will help with your self-confidence?  Please stop letting people push you around; you don't deserve that.

You say, "No" is not an option for your family members.  How about, "Yes" is not an option for you?  It seems you have two options - you know what they want and if you want to keep the peace, suck it up and get in the picture without comment, or, stand your ground and leave the room.

You do have a choice.

PS:  If you want me to stop with the advice from an internet stranger, just let me know.  I do just want the best for you.

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Cloud9Shopper

Cloud9Shopper

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6 hours ago, Ancaster said:

Maybe just tell your mom, "I'll wait for you in the car" and leave?  Perhaps that small act of standing up for yourself like that will help with your self-confidence?  Please stop letting people push you around; you don't deserve that.

You say, "No" is not an option for your family members.  How about, "Yes" is not an option for you?  It seems you have two options - you know what they want and if you want to keep the peace, suck it up and get in the picture without comment, or, stand your ground and leave the room.

You do have a choice.

PS:  If you want me to stop with the advice from an internet stranger, just let me know.  I do just want the best for you.

It’s OK. I do need to be less of a people pleaser in general, and it’s one of my goals for 2025. So I’ll take any and all advice! 

The pic wasn’t really for my mom and I wasn’t depending on her for a ride home from church. The choir director wants group pictures after big Masses like Christmas, Easter, and other special days. And everyone goes along with it or is pressured into the picture if they try and decline. (Like I said, another girl tried to not be in it and they told her she needed to be and were like “no come on get in here!”) My mom was in the choir with me, though, so she insisted that I needed to be in the picture. If she weren’t in the choir I would have left the church and been in the car before anyone could find me. 

But yes, at past family gatherings, I have never been allowed to decline a photo. 

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Yeah No

Yeah No

22 hours ago, Cloud9Shopper said:

I just hate my body right now (lost 50 pounds, gained it all back plus a few) and hate the forced nature of these pictures and how you can’t decline to be in them. And because I’m short I get shoved up front. And I hate them when you just want to go home and put pajamas on. But at the same time, now I feel really guilty for getting upset and letting it ruin my night to the point where I’m sitting here in tears. And I feel bad that I was kinda snippy with my mom when she wanted a picture of us in front of the altar. Maybe I can suggest we try another one in front of the tree at home tomorrow or again after Mass on Sunday (not like they are going to take the decorations down that fast)? No one will know or care if we take it on Sunday instead when there’s not as much pressure. 

Ho boy, do I relate to this! Fortunately when I was in a choir I was younger and thinner so it didn't bother me so much, especially because we wore robes and any photos were taken when we were wearing them. And they hide a lot.

I only just had to agree to a family photo today. Hated it, especially that it will likely be posted on Facebook on my SIL's page whether I like it or not. 

I always get shoved in front too because I'm short and it's a pet peeve of mine by now because they usually angle me and of course that's not the most flattering position if you have anything to hide weight-wise.

I had that happen on my birthday but I was having too good a time to prevent it. But now the photos are there on Facebook forever. Meanwhile my tall SIL knows just how to pose and is tall and always hiding behind people, so of course she looks GREAT!

I promised a friend I'd post photos of me on my cruises but hated the way I looked in them so much I never did it. Same reason. 

I wish it didn't bother me so much but then when I see people that can hide behind other people and face front so you don't see their double chins and stomachs it really bothers me. And I don't want to be that person that spoils the fun or tells people they need to change things for me, even though I wish I could!

Anyway, no advice, just sympathy!

 

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shapeshifter

shapeshifter

2 hours ago, Cloud9Shopper said:

So I’ll take any and all advice! 

Ooo. Even from an oldster like me with a tendency to being a know-it-all?

Okay, this is just a slightly silly suggestion, that might be hard for you to pull off:
Right when they're about to snap the picture, you bend down to "fix" your shoe. 
So they do a retake, and this time you turn around to look at some [imaginary] thing in the opposite direction (or to the side, since you're in the front row with us shorter people). You keep doing stuff like that, feigning innocence, until they (your mom or the choir director) says something in an exasperated tone like, "Cloud9Shopper, can you please hold still for 2 seconds?" to which you reply, "Sure. But first I really need to go to the bathroom and cannot possibly hold still until I do," and then you go to the bathroom — maybe not returning, if possible.
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partofme

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I also hate pictures especially group photos.  I’ve always been thin I just don’t like the way I look, I think I’m what people would describe as a butterface.  I’ve always wanted a nose job but have never been able to afford one.  Sometimes I will like the way I look in the mirror and then I‘ll see a photo from the same day and it’s really disgusting, almost like it’s a completely different person.  

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shapeshifter

shapeshifter

11 hours ago, partofme said:

I also hate pictures especially group photos.  I’ve always been thin I just don’t like the way I look, I think I’m what people would describe as a butterface.  I’ve always wanted a nose job but have never been able to afford one.  Sometimes I will like the way I look in the mirror and then I‘ll see a photo from the same day and it’s really disgusting, almost like it’s a completely different person.  

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PRgal

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@Cloud9Shopper When you said graduation photos for high school, do you mean the "official" ones you get done through the school?  Ones that the school display in their alumni hallway?  Just wondering since the Glamour Shots style pics that you do outside of school isn't a common thing for high school graduation in Canada. Or in Toronto, anyway.  But everyone is expected to get the "official" pics done.

As for MY Christmukkah, it was great.  We started with gift opening (kiddo got a GIGANTIC Simba and Monopoly Junior from Santa (plus a Slinky)!!!  He doesn't get THAT much since Santa knows he also gets Chanukkah gifts plus a remote control car from Daddy and art supplies from me.  More art supplies to come on the last night of Chanukkah) and then had baked French toast for brunch.  Didn't watch a movie as a family but I saw The Six Triple Eight on my own. Dinner was Chinese takeout.

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Browncoat

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14 hours ago, partofme said:

Sometimes I will like the way I look in the mirror and then I‘ll see a photo from the same day and it’s really disgusting, almost like it’s a completely different person.  

I can't tell you how many people swear they can take a good photo of me, and every single one of them fails, every single time.  There have been maybe three good photos of me in my lifetime, and two of them were when I was a toddler.  The third, well, everything conspired against that one being a decent photo, and somehow it turned into the best one of me as an adult.  

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lookeyloo

lookeyloo

22 minutes ago, PRgal said:

@Cloud9Shopper When you said graduation photos for high school, do you mean the "official" ones you get done through the school?  Ones that the school display in their alumni hallway?  Just wondering since the Glamour Shots style pics that you do outside of school isn't a common thing for high school graduation in Canada. Or in Toronto, anyway.  But everyone is expected to get the "official" pics done.

As for MY Christmukkah, it was great.  We started with gift opening (kiddo got a GIGANTIC Simba and Monopoly Junior from Santa (plus a Slinky)!!!  He doesn't get THAT much since Santa knows he also gets Chanukkah gifts plus a remote control car from Daddy and art supplies from me.  More art supplies to come on the last night of Chanukkah) and then had baked French toast for brunch.  Didn't watch a movie as a family but I saw The Six Triple Eight on my own. Dinner was Chinese takeout.

We watched Six Triple eight last night and enjoyed it.  If anyone read the book, First Ladies, which was about Eleanor Roosevelt and her friendship with Mary McLeod Bethune, it referenced that a bit.  

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Bastet

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On 12/25/2024 at 5:15 AM, Cloud9Shopper said:

No is not an option to them. 

It's not their option whether or not you're in a picture, it's yours.  If you don't want to be, don't be.  Decline.  When they pester you rather than accept it, leave. 

Especially for something like a group of people who sing together.  A family photo where there's a 90-something who's made happy by having a memento of everyone being together for what they fear may be their last Christmas, maybe participate in one a year and just request that nobody post it. 

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Dimity

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58 minutes ago, Bastet said:

When they pester you rather than accept it, leave. 

Exactly! 

Maybe it's one of the few advantages to getting older but I've reached a point where I realize, and embrace, that NO ONE can force me to do anything I don't want to do anymore.  Barring serious injury or an arrest that is!  But in the normal course of my life I get to choose what I want to do and where I draw a line.  Sometimes you do things to please someone else of course.  Still a choice though. 

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Cloud9Shopper

Cloud9Shopper

2 hours ago, Bastet said:

It's not their option whether or not you're in a picture, it's yours.  If you don't want to be, don't be.  Decline.  When they pester you rather than accept it, leave. 

Especially for something like a group of people who sing together.  A family photo with 90-somethings who are made happy by having a memento of everyone being together for what they fear may be their last Christmas, maybe participate in one a year and just request that nobody post it. 

Yes, when my aunt wanted to take a picture with me and my 93 year old grandma yesterday, I happily accepted that. Those are the pictures worth taking and remembering. I would bet very few people are going to look at a group photo of the church choir from Tuesday’s Mass in five or 10 years from now. (Just based on the fact that the other night no one was saying “hey here’s the Facebook memory of our Christmas Eve picture from 2022!” or whatever year you want to put here.)

 

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22 hours ago, partofme said:

Sometimes I will like the way I look in the mirror and then I‘ll see a photo from the same day and it’s really disgusting, almost like it’s a completely different person.  

That has always been the case with me. Also I feel like the camera adds more weight all the time. And I hate to say this but even though my husband is a photographer I've never liked the photos he takes of me. I take better selfies! And some of my best photos have been on my driver's license!

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chitowngirl

chitowngirl

23 hours ago, partofme said:

I also hate pictures especially group photos.  I’ve always been thin I just don’t like the way I look, I think I’m what people would describe as a butterface.  I’ve always wanted a nose job but have never been able to afford one.  Sometimes I will like the way I look in the mirror and then I‘ll see a photo from the same day and it’s really disgusting, almost like it’s a completely different person.  

If you hold the photo up to the mirror, it will look more like “you”. That’s how you’re used to seeing yourself.

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Does anyone else still use FB?  Lately I've noticed in their "reels" a disturbing number that are starting of showing very bullying behavior and also showing parents who appear to be about to use corporal punishment on their children - most of these seem like they originate in countries like India or China.  Anyway I refuse to click on the reels under any circumstances but especially with these.  Any idea what the hell these are all about?

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2 hours ago, Dimity said:

Does anyone else still use FB?  Lately I've noticed in their "reels" a disturbing number that are starting of showing very bullying behavior and also showing parents who appear to be about to use corporal punishment on their children - most of these seem like they originate in countries like India or China.  Anyway I refuse to click on the reels under any circumstances but especially with these.  Any idea what the hell these are all about?

I'm not seeing these.  Maybe it's your algorithms? 

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