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NUguy514
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He is applying for the religious exemption based on his "devout" Catholic faith, so he actually is exactly defining himself through his Catholic faith in this instance.  Nothing about Catholicism is a

Popples
Popples

On one hand, I have a lifelong loathing of Notre Dame and I hate seeing them win. On the other hand, Dabo Swinney has shown himself to be an insufferable, holier-than-thou ass-mongrel. OMG,

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roamyn

roamyn

3 hours ago, Carey said:

What if all the Bama players transferred to Michigan & all the Wolverine players moved to the Tide

Or better yet, tOSU gets the bulk of both?  😁

We've already got several AL ones.

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Carey

Carey

I do have to check to see if the most recent format includes re-seeding.  What's ludicrous is if a 12 seed moves on to face a crap-ass conference winner whereas in a strong year with a 8 & 9 seed being great, they could move on to face the one seed & possibly upset them on a neutral field.  To which "people" would lump that in with actual unexpected wins in the history of sports.  Of course, that would feature a 4 seed, awful conference winner going on a run, avoiding adversity, winning the Natty, and people thinking it's the best thing since sliced bread.

If there's re-seeding, then I don't think it's a big deal.  TBH, even if there isn't, I'd be okay with it more often than not.  I don't imagine the ACC being a complete dumpster fire going forward.  We'll get some bad years but mostly, it'll be okay.  Pittsburgh & Clemson, who both lost a game or two in the previous 2 years, looked more than champions than Florida State.

At the end of the day, it's not a big deal since the winners of the opening round get another week on a neutral field.  I believe.  Personally, having one Group of Five team instead two isn't cool (only in seasons where there are 2 decent teams from the American or elsewhere)

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mojoween

mojoween

Reggie Bush and his Heisman have less than zero impact on my life, and yet I am still happy that he’s getting something back that never should have been taken away in the first place.

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Carey

Carey

Couldn't agree more.  Now, given that the story of Planet Earth from start to finish includes 2004-2005, the sooner USC is recognized as a winning program during that span, the more sane TPTB are

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Black Knight

Black Knight

College football for school pride instead of money has been over for many years. This is just eliminating the pretense. College football is a business, and there's no reason the players should be left out of that. The argument that they are reimbursed in the form of an education is a joke - just look at the training/practice/travel/game schedules, and it's obvious how little time there is for class or assignments.

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Stats Queen

Stats Queen

On 5/24/2024 at 9:17 AM, Black Knight said:

College football for school pride instead of money has been over for many years. This is just eliminating the pretense. College football is a business, and there's no reason the players should be left out of that. The argument that they are reimbursed in the form of an education is a joke - just look at the training/practice/travel/game schedules, and it's obvious how little time there is for class or assignments.

I totally agree with this. It is a business that makes a lot of money. They players sacrifice so much to play and have the potential to be injured for life, so I agree they should have be share in the revenue. I guess I’m hoping for an imaginary world where they profit but yet choose to go to a school to represent that school.

 

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Black Knight

Black Knight

On 6/18/2024 at 8:25 PM, Stats Queen said:

I guess I’m hoping for an imaginary world where they profit but yet choose to go to a school to represent that school.

I totally get that. It's how we like to think of pro athletes too - that even though they're generally taking the highest bid, they are invested in their team and their team's city. I loved when Matt Leinart chose to return to USC for his senior year.

What hurts that on the college side, of course, is that the players aren't locked into multi-year contracts. If they don't like how things are going, they can hop into the transfer portal. We see some of that in pro sports too, with athletes "requesting a trade" and such, but that's pretty much reserved for stars.

It feels like multi-year contracts for college athletes will be the next thing that happens. The coaches are so unhappy and stressed out - understandably - about the transfer portal that people will be looking for ways to decrease the number of players going into the transfer portal. The multi-year contracts wouldn't come from the colleges, of course, but NIL deals could be structured that way. And if a player agrees to go to the school until they turn pro, that player will probably become fond of the school even if it started off as pure business.

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Carey

Carey

If you asked me on a Sunday if I felt bad for the players, I'd say yes.  If you asked me on a Friday if I felt bad for the players, I'd say no.  As neutral as it gets, I suppose.

As mentioned, change is inevitable.  Not a big fan of it, but I respect it.  I'm more annoyed at things to where changing things is a popular decision, but then we're told, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

I think I'm okay with the current version of college football, and cannot wait for the upcoming decision.  I do/will miss the tradition of big games like UCLA vs USC and the Game, along with many others that were done away with due to the changing landscape.  The money part is tough.  Since I'm not getting any of it, I can't be too thrilled about the decision to change College Football.  I don't hate it, but I'm not going to care about all the movement within a sport when it does nothing to better my life & well-being.

The players weren't forced to play the game, but they do have a right to get more & collect something as they are worth something.  Without them, the sport dies.  For me, it's all about middle ground; I agree that things should get under control.  For instance, I don't think players that are less than average should be transferring all over the country.  I think they are also taking a spot for someone else that might want to actually go to school, learn something, acquire a skill, and collect their degree.  Maybe TPTB can allow someone to enter the portal, but if they go in more than once and/or nobody "signs" them, they'll have to sit out a year.  There is, after all, a reason why you're transferring (more than once) in the first place.

Too bad the rivalry games are going to take a hit, but I'm okay with it.  Maybe they can meet up in the 12-team playoff, which would be even better to be honest

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Calvada

Calvada

The NCAA hands out penalties to Jim Harbaugh, the 2024 winner of the Pete Carroll Award for Getting Out of Town Ahead of the NCAA Police.

I'm sure Jim will take the NCAA's action to heart as he cashes the checks from the Chargers.  

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Carey

Carey

Harbaugh Out As Michigan Honorary Captain

Meh.  I guess it's the right call, and for what someone knows is the real reason, if applicable.  Not sure if there was any need to mention an NFL conflict, since the league is off during that first week of College Football action.

 

As mentioned elsewhere, former ESPN College Football Analysts RGIII and Samantha Ponder are out at ESPN.

I'm not going to re-link the source as I've already done so in the NFL thread, in which both were a big part of the ESPN NFL coverage there.  While I'm not a fan of either one, I didn't lose sleep when they were both booted from the "worldwide leader" last week.

Unless I'm missing something, Sam Ponder pretty much only was on television for 3 hours a week over the course of the past half decade, and just during the football season.  Not a big loss.  Meanwhile, which Robert was replaced for MNF, I'm not a big fan of his dismissal for CFB.  I'm not in the camp of, "He's totally going to unseat Herbie!" but he was pretty valuable for the sport.  Those FSU comments didn't help TBH

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AimingforYoko

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One of the few games that featured two top 25 teams wasn't much of a game as Georgia beat down Clemson 34-3. Staying out of the transfer portal and running a static offense is OK when you're winning NCs, but the slack Dabo got for winning those is not going to last infinitely.

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Carey

Carey

I suppose there are fans of Brian Kelly, and in advance, I'll apologize here.

I will say, however, a big reason as to why I didn't ROTFALMAO is that it's relatively early in the AM.  Not that early, but early enough as it's a holiday.

The presser did generate a big grin though!

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Carey

Carey

In the first super legit rankings: Georgia, Ohio State, Texas, Alabama, and Notre Dame round out the Top Five.  Oregon & Mississippi, who are 5th & 6th, respectively in the Coaches Poll (where Notre Dame is 7th), are respectively 6th & 7th within the AP poll.  Penn State is 8th on both.

To complete the Top 10, Missouri & Michigan are 9th and 10th (reversed on the Coaches Poll).  Nonetheless the best ten teams are the same within both rankings.

Unless I'm mistaken, on Saturday, for the first time in quite awhile, we have our Top 10 match-up before the autumn season arrives, in which the game features 2 teams that have each played at least one game.  Despite the fact that the teams in the Big 10 & the SEC have more room for error, it's still worth the watch!

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Carey

Carey

The good news, if you're a Michigan fan* is that it's way too early (for me) to write off the season.  No thanks to the chances of Connor Stalions being available for work, which can happen in a hurry when you're coaching a team to a 60-0 loss.

* Yes, I heard that pin drop. Loud and clear!

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roamyn

roamyn

I think I'm a TX fan now - at least for a week.  That one fumble of TTUN was f*g hilarious! 

See what happens when cheating Khaki Pants isn't there?

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AimingforYoko

AimingforYoko

25 minutes ago, roamyn said:

See what happens when cheating Khaki Pants isn't there?

Yeah, that's it. Not the 13 players drafted into the NFL. Coaching matters, only so much as they're the ones acquiring the talent. And talent trumps all.

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Carey

Carey

The beauty is that ND could find themselves on the outside looking in & no control of its own destiny.  If they were part of the Big Ten, losing to nobody wouldn't be the end of the world.  However, it is what it is

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roamyn

roamyn

2 hours ago, AimingforYoko said:

Yeah, that's it. Not the 13 players drafted into the NFL. Coaching matters, only so much as they're the ones acquiring the talent. And talent trumps all.

Cheating Khakhi Pants is the only reason they were allowed to win last season.  And I will blame him for everything, including the fall of democracy.

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Bastet

Bastet

I have no idea how many games seasons (best guess: a lot) it's going to take for me to handle USC being in the Big 10, but what I'll never accept is a Big 10 announcer calling the Coliseum "the Coli" during a USC game.  No one in Los Angeles has ever said that without a gun to their head, which is not a local crime of which I am aware.  I don't know which dude from tonight's game said it, but I looked them up and they both have Pac-12 experience, so there's no blaming it on producers/interns excuse. 

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Carey

Carey

For the first time ever, the Southeastern Conference obtained over 85% of the Associated Press Top 25 Football Poll, thanks to the Notre Dame upset as well as the close call in State College & Michigan's first loss since 2022 to the Longhorns.  Penn State is still in the Top 10, but six of the Top 7 spots are occupied by SEC schools, including the aforementioned Texas. 

Georgia & Alabama remain 1 and 4, and Ole Miss replaces Notre Dame in the 5 spot.  With the Longhorns win over the previous Top Ten school in TTUN, they swap with Ohio State in the 2 spot.  No changes in the Coaches poll however, where Mississippi was already in the 5th spot.  Speaking of which, Utah is in the Top Ten there, but not in the AP Poll, which has Miami there.  Both schools are 12th in the rankings in which they're outside of the Top 10.  USC is 11th in both, and despite the Wolverines' fall outside of the Top 15, they should be able to get into the Top 10 with a road win in the Big House.  Mizzou, Tennessee, and Oregon complete the top of the rankings.

Despite their horrible loss, Notre Dame remains inside the Top 20.  Kansas, Iowa, and NC State fall out of the Top 25.  In fact, NC State didn't even receive votes this time around.  Iowa State & Nebraska have entered the Top 25

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Notabug

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On 9/7/2024 at 8:01 PM, AimingforYoko said:

Yeah, that's it. Not the 13 players drafted into the NFL. Coaching matters, only so much as they're the ones acquiring the talent. And talent trumps all.

Because no other top college team has managed to lose a bunch of players to the NFL draft and/or graduation and managed to stay competitive?  The staff did a piss poor job of recruiting the past few years if that's the excuse for the reigning national champs to be defeated so thoroughly.  If Michigan didn't have players in the pipeline to replace those who would inevitably be leaving since it is college and not the pros; that is on them and their coaching staff, including Ole Khaki Pants who managed to bolt before the mighty fell.

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Carey

Carey

To be fair, it is only Week 2.  Michigan likely will have a miserable year, but they lost to a Top 5 team.  Doesn't matter if it occurred on their home turf.  A much, much, better program also failed to win on their home turf last season to the same team.

While I don't expect them to do anything this season, it's not as bad as Notre Dame's outcome

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Carey

Carey

I disagree.  Ohio State is going to the College Football Playoff for the rest of time.  If they take care of business elsewhere, The Game will become meaningless.  However, they would have to cash in the postseason; without a title, Day is gone.

In the aftermath, OSU will simply say that Ryan didn't hoist anything, but it probably will not be due to losing to TTUN.  Of course, losing to the same team in a playoff game will result in a coaching change

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Carey

Carey

Florida State, a school fresh off of their so-called snub, still hasn't won a game since that moment.  First team ranked prematurely in the Top 10 to lose each of their first 3 games to un-ranked teams

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bmasters9

bmasters9

The only consolation really for Purdue in that shellacking they suffered at the hands of Notre Dame is that at least Purdue is not winless (far as I recall, Purdue was 1-0 prior to this); had this shellacking dropped Purdue to 0-2 (meaning that Purdue had lost their first game), things would have been far, far worse.

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Carey

Carey

Other than a rather major move that featured Georgia & Texas, not much in terms of the ranking for The AP Poll & Coaches Poll.  The same top 12 teams are just that.  Ohio State didn't jump due to an idle week, and Penn State dropped for the same reason.  BTW, The Nos. 1 & 2 spot flipped in the AP Poll only, not the coaches poll.

Probably isn't a super big deal as it's Week 3 in a super-sized College Football season.  After consideration, I would've left Georgia alone.  Although their escape was to an unranked team, it's a close road win against a conference opponent, whereas Texas won big at home against a team that is so much more inferior to Kentucky

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