Trials and Tribulations of Juicy and Tre...

[WireWrap]

And the thing is, had they lived an honest life, they would be sitting very pretty right now. Teresa's cookbooks were very successful, she had a good contract with Bravo, Milania hair care, all the Fabellin/Fabulicious stuff.....they really screwed themselves (along with all the others they ripped off).

Had they lived an honest life to begin with, Teresa would never have been on the HW show and with no HW show there would have been no cookbooks, hair care line or any other products. They did not hire middle income HWs back then. Now, had they never filed for BK and paid their bills, including the money they got through fraud, there would have been no Federal investigation, no federal indictments and they would not be admitted/convicted felons today!

[mwell345]

 

They did not hire middle income HWs back then.

 

But they did. Danielle was not rich by any means. Nor was Bethenny on NY.   And if I remember correctly, someone (and it may have been Caroline - I just don't know) brought Teresa to the producer's attention.  There was a connection with another castmate, I just don't know who. 

[Lura]

I feel, just judging from Teresa's personality traits, that no matter how much illegal activity went on, Teresa would still have made a bundle of money from being on this show.  She's a real go-getter, and she's super creative, and I think she would have come up with a million ideas for things to sell.  Back in the beginning, look at the sale of her cookbooks!  While they didn't rival Ina Garten's, they were still marketed in a way that would sell.  For instance, one of them was geared toward recipes from her Italian kitchen.  How many Italian women in this country watch this show?  Millions, I'll bet!  That had to have made her far more than pocket change!

 

The other thing Teresa had going for her was her beauty.  She sculpted her body a la Hollywood, and she learned the professional secrets of doing makeup, although IMHO she doesn't need all that makeup to be beautiful.  But she took the knowledge she'd gained and turned it into profits, and she counted her money all the way to the bank.  Then, I imagine, there was a certain segment of the population who would buy anything Teresa said was good!

 

If she and Joe had only reported their earnings, she'd be more than halfway to being rich, and all of it would have been legal.  If she'd been half as smart as she was creative, she'd be sitting pretty today.  There she was, with all of those blessings, but she was too greedy to be happy with what she had.  It's enough to make a grown girl cry!

 

 

[zoeysmom]

I feel, just judging from Teresa's personality traits, that no matter how much illegal activity went on, Teresa would still have made a bundle of money from being on this show.  She's a real go-getter, and she's super creative, and I think she would have come up with a million ideas for things to sell.  Back in the beginning, look at the sale of her cookbooks!  While they didn't rival Ina Garten's, they were still marketed in a way that would sell.  For instance, one of them was geared toward recipes from her Italian kitchen.  How many Italian women in this country watch this show?  Millions, I'll bet!  That had to have made her far more than pocket change!

 

The other thing Teresa had going for her was her beauty.  She sculpted her body a la Hollywood, and she learned the professional secrets of doing makeup, although IMHO she doesn't need all that makeup to be beautiful.  But she took the knowledge she'd gained and turned it into profits, and she counted her money all the way to the bank.  Then, I imagine, there was a certain segment of the population who would buy anything Teresa said was good!

 

If she and Joe had only reported their earnings, she'd be more than halfway to being rich, and all of it would have been legal.  If she'd been half as smart as she was creative, she'd be sitting pretty today.  There she was, with all of those blessings, but she was too greedy to be happy with what she had.  It's enough to make a grown girl cry!

Teresa made a ton of money off the show because she exploited the hell out of her co-stars.  Once her cookbooks weren't filled with cast member trivia and insults they flopped.  Teresa hired people to be creative for her-there is nothing particularly original about her other than she will do anything for money.  Her recipes were simplistic and uninspiring but the talk of Danielle being a whore managed to get them flying off the shelf.  Teresa used and sold out her TV friends and family all because she felt she was the only one who deserved to cash in on the RHONJ notoriety.   

 

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and I would  be one that would not consider Teresa either beautiful or well sculpted.  The NJ cast to me past and present has yet to bring on a Joanna Krupa or Lisa Vanderpump or even Tamra Barney in the beauty department-Dina is about as close as it gets to a beauty in that franchise.   Personally, I think it is ridiculous for "fans" to buy her hair care products because half the hair is not hers and she probably spends more in month to maintain it than most people's mortgage payments.  

 

Teresa's case is about claiming to have income they did not have to obtain loans they could not pay back or refused to pay back.  It was a decade long Ponzi scheme and somewhere along the line she fell into success on RHONJ.  Had Teresa and Joe used the earnings from the RHONJ to right their wrongs and pay their bills,  there is an excellent chance they would not be convicted felons.  They cheated to get what they have and then they cheated to get out of paying for what they obtained illegally to begin with.  It has been five plus years of watching these clowns pay attorneys and use every delay tactic in the legal system to subvert the justice system.  Not satisfied in wrangling the gift of a sentence they received through the highly paid counsel she has resorted to more legal with chicanery with filing a frivolous lawsuit against a BK attorney who serves her very well for five years and whose advice she regularly refused to follow.

 

These two spent before they earned and Teresa's never ending over consumption got her where she is today-incarcerated.  No one knows what the future holds for Teresa but her return to a life of luxury and overspending depends far more on the public's desire to revisit her than her creativity.  I see her future more along the lines as a player on "Mob Wives", she married a career criminal and now we are suppose to be surprised or sympathetic because they both ended up in prison? 

[AnnA]

Teresa made a ton of money off the show because she exploited the hell out of her co-stars.........

Teresa used and sold out her TV friends and family all because she felt she was the only one who deserved to cash in on the RHONJ notoriety...   

 

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and I would  be one that would not consider Teresa either beautiful or well sculpted...

 

Teresa's case is about claiming to have income they did not have to obtain loans they could not pay back or refused to pay back.  It was a decade long Ponzi scheme and somewhere along the line she fell into success on RHONJ.  Had Teresa and Joe used the earnings from the RHONJ to right their wrongs and pay their bills,  there is an excellent chance they would not be convicted felons.  They cheated to get what they have and then they cheated to get out of paying for what they obtained illegally to begin with...

 

These two spent before they earned and Teresa's never ending over consumption got her where she is today-incarcerated.  No one knows what the future holds for Teresa but her return to a life of luxury and overspending depends far more on the public's desire to revisit her than her creativity...

Brava zoeysmom!

I couldn't have said it better!

[WireWrap]

But they did. Danielle was not rich by any means. Nor was Bethenny on NY.   And if I remember correctly, someone (and it may have been Caroline - I just don't know) brought Teresa to the producer's attention.  There was a connection with another castmate, I just don't know who. 

Danielle was upper middle class, as was Bethenny, not mid or lower middle class. It was Dina/Caroline that recommended Teresa and that was because they thought Teresa/Joe were wealthy through legal means, not grifting/stealing.

 

I feel, just judging from Teresa's personality traits, that no matter how much illegal activity went on, Teresa would still have made a bundle of money from being on this show.  She's a real go-getter, and she's super creative, and I think she would have come up with a million ideas for things to sell.  Back in the beginning, look at the sale of her cookbooks!  While they didn't rival Ina Garten's, they were still marketed in a way that would sell.  For instance, one of them was geared toward recipes from her Italian kitchen.  How many Italian women in this country watch this show?  Millions, I'll bet!  That had to have made her far more than pocket change!

 

The other thing Teresa had going for her was her beauty.  She sculpted her body a la Hollywood, and she learned the professional secrets of doing makeup, although IMHO she doesn't need all that makeup to be beautiful.  But she took the knowledge she'd gained and turned it into profits, and she counted her money all the way to the bank.  Then, I imagine, there was a certain segment of the population who would buy anything Teresa said was good!

 

If she and Joe had only reported their earnings, she'd be more than halfway to being rich, and all of it would have been legal.  If she'd been half as smart as she was creative, she'd be sitting pretty today.  There she was, with all of those blessings, but she was too greedy to be happy with what she had.  It's enough to make a grown girl cry!

The only reason that Teresa had any products was due to someone else, every single time. None of her "products" were her ideas or work to begin with and without her notoriety from the show she would not have had anyone help "brand" her. The cookbook idea was Caroline's, not Teresa's, she stole that idea, used someone else's recipe's and on top of that she had someone else write it and that same person wrote all of her cookbooks and even wrote some of the recipe's herself, no recipe's were ever written by Teresa exclusively.

 

As for her other products, the hair care line, the food line, the sparkling wine, the manufactures of all products came to Teresa and paid her a small % to act as spokes person, she had zero to do with any formulas, recipe's for the food or the wine. That was all done before Teresa signed on the dotted line to become nothing more than a talking head for the differing products. In other words, Teresa hustled nothing!

 

It was a well known fact, thanks to Joe's big mouth, that Teresa did not do her own hair or makeup but paid someone else to do it for her. Her fan base willing to buy any product's has dwindled so much that the products she was representing have not sold out as of today even though nothing new was made since they pled guilty months ago.

 

They, the Giudice's, started stealing from their newlywed/honeymoon bed and never looked back. They never planned on repaying anyone, even the DR that gave them Adrianna through IVF! SMH

[zoeysmom]

Danielle was upper middle class, as was Bethenny, not mid or lower middle class. It was Dina/Caroline that recommended Teresa and that was because they thought Teresa/Joe were wealthy through legal means, not grifting/stealing.

 

The only reason that Teresa had any products was due to someone else, every single time. None of her "products" were her ideas or work to begin with and without her notoriety from the show she would not have had anyone help "brand" her. The cookbook idea was Caroline's, not Teresa's, she stole that idea, used someone else's recipe's and on top of that she had someone else write it and that same person wrote all of her cookbooks and even wrote some of the recipe's herself, no recipe's were ever written by Teresa exclusively.

 

As for her other products, the hair care line, the food line, the sparkling wine, the manufactures of all products came to Teresa and paid her a small % to act as spokes person, she had zero to do with any formulas, recipe's for the food or the wine. That was all done before Teresa signed on the dotted line to become nothing more than a talking head for the differing products. In other words, Teresa hustled nothing!

 

It was a well known fact, thanks to Joe's big mouth, that Teresa did not do her own hair or makeup but paid someone else to do it for her. Her fan base willing to buy any product's has dwindled so much that the products she was representing have not sold out as of today even though nothing new was made since they pled guilty months ago.

 

They, the Giudice's, started stealing from their newlywed/honeymoon bed and never looked back. They never planned on repaying anyone, even the DR that gave them Adrianna through IVF! SMH

One thing I found very disturbing about Teresa is her out and conniving.  Apparently, Teresa called Jacqueline every morning to crow about herself.  On at least two occasions Jacqueline mentioned she had been approached by someone to spokesperson a product one was teeth whitening the other was a hair product.  Teresa then had her people contact competitors of the companies that had approached Jacqueline and entered into endorsement deals.  Of course that made Jacqueline undesirable in those markets.  The unfairness was Jacqueline is actually a licensed cosmetologist and does spend a fair amount of time researching products. 

 

I must say I am one of the few who does not dislike Jacqueline.  I have always found her a  little too real and very sensitive.  Plus I think her husband is a good guy.  He is patient and kind on the show and loves Jacqueline-warts and all.  Anyway this post was just a little more conversation on the very specific incidents Wire Wrap so wisely raised. 

[WireWrap]

One thing I found very disturbing about Teresa is her out and conniving.  Apparently, Teresa called Jacqueline every morning to crow about herself.  On at least two occasions Jacqueline mentioned she had been approached by someone to spokesperson a product one was teeth whitening the other was a hair product.  Teresa then had her people contact competitors of the companies that had approached Jacqueline and entered into endorsement deals.  Of course that made Jacqueline undesirable in those markets.  The unfairness was Jacqueline is actually a licensed cosmetologist and does spend a fair amount of time researching products. 

 

I must say I am one of the few who does not dislike Jacqueline.  I have always found her a  little too real and very sensitive.  Plus I think her husband is a good guy.  He is patient and kind on the show and loves Jacqueline-warts and all.  Anyway this post was just a little more conversation on the very specific incidents Wire Wrap so wisely raised. 

 I think Teresa and her team went out of their way to sully all the women both on and off camera to keep Teresa as the only 1 with "products". Her "team" included not only her real PR team but her minions like Penny, JTG and Kim D just to name a few. The damage they did to Jac still stands today, so many really believe that Jac is a drunk because of them.

[Jennifersdc]

One of the things that irks me most about the Giudice's is what a low-level con it was and how inept they were at it.

This whole prison thing could have been avoided, if they didn't file that ludicrous bankruptcy petition. Signed Teresa's book advance shortly after they filed (definitely mostly negotiated before), didn't include her HW "slush" fund (or her new RH raise), at least two properties (at least one of which the knuckleheads actually filmed for TV), etc...

I think it maybe only $1M+/- in assets they tried to conceal (poorly)? They were on a "reality" TV show about affluent women (supposedly) and Teresa's priority still seemed to be to walk around like Leona Helmsley even after they filed. They had to have some sort of inkling the money Teresa could make thorugh RHNJ and literally threw it away. It's beyond my comprehension.

Oh I forgot - it was all Monica Chacon's fault. I've asked for, but never received that hotline to the Feds. That would be awesome to have.

Edited January 15, 2015 by Jennifersdc

[LotusFlower]

Back in the beginning, look at the sale of her cookbooks!  While they didn't rival Ina Garten's, they were still marketed in a way that would sell.  For instance, one of them was geared toward recipes from her Italian kitchen.  How many Italian women in this country watch this show?  Millions, I'll bet!  That had to have made her far more than pocket change!

I think the show, at its peak, attracted about 2+ million viewers, and I very much doubt that most of them were Italian! I also co-sign what the others have said - none of these "creative" ideas came from Teresa. She stole the cookbook idea from Caroline, and was approached by companies to endorse their products on all the other endeavors.

On the cooking show concept - I saw a video from an appearance on Fox that Teresa did to promote her last cookbook on grilling, and she was terrible!! Even worse than those cooking demonstrations on Glam - much worse! She had no idea how to present her recipe, and when the host asked her what they were making (ie. chicken cacciatore), she didn't understand, blinked, and finally said: well, chicken breasts! I was almost embarrassed for her.

 

The other thing Teresa had going for her was her beauty.  She sculpted her body a la Hollywood, and she learned the professional secrets of doing makeup, although IMHO she doesn't need all that makeup to be beautiful.  But she took the knowledge she'd gained and turned it into profits, and she counted her money all the way to the bank.  Then, I imagine, there was a certain segment of the population who would buy anything Teresa said was good!

I think you're really overestimating Teresa's appeal. She didn't take any beauty industry knowledge and turn it into profits. First of all, the hair company approached her to endorse a hair care line, not the other way around. Secondly, it flopped. As did all of her products (minus the cookbooks), which we know from court filings.

[Jennifersdc]

I do think Teresa could have leveraged enough off RHNJ to at least be able to keep her "dream" house (aka the "Monstrosity") long-term . Her first few cookbooks were pretty successful, but as I always said how many Teresa Giudice cookbook's does one need? She pretty much over saturated the market on everything.

I always thought she could've done OK on Fabellini even just selling in some regional stores. That's probably why they terminated the contract with the local winery and bought/brought it themselves from Italy.

My conspiracy theory is that the reason why they don't have the deal with the distributor anymore is cause they needed a loan to continue and they're kinda banned from getting any of those right now.

[zoeysmom]

I do think Teresa could have leveraged enough off RHNJ to at least be able to keep her "dream" house (aka the "Monstrosity") long-term . Her first few cookbooks were pretty successful, but as I always said how many Teresa Giudice cookbook's does one need? She pretty much over saturated the market on everything.

I always thought she could've done OK on Fabellini even just selling in some regional stores. That's probably why they terminated the contract with the local winery and bought/brought it themselves from Italy.

My conspiracy theory is that the reason why they don't have the deal with the distributor anymore is cause they needed a loan to continue and they're kinda banned from getting any of those right now.

I think one of Teresa's huge problems once the money started rolling in she had to start paying taxes.  I am guessing her run on RH probably brought in about 3 maybe 4 million.  Seven years of $144,000.00  a year in house payments-plus the payments on the shore house another 25,000.00 a year eats up over a million bucks.  If she paid the appropriate taxes even at 30% she is at 2 million and that is before she makes a car payment or pays for other expenses associated with life.  So in the past seven years I can easily see her blowing a million bucks and that is before her attorneys fees.  From her delay in paying the Feds I think they were truly spent and I am almost certain he has to file monthly income and expense declarations with the court.  I am fully expecting come May to hear the mansion is being auctioned off.  I am sure the shore house is probably going to be on the auction block very soon.

 

I do think Teresa and Joe were kind of the mindset go big or go home when they decided to finance Fabellini.  Since the whole concept grosses me out  I can't imagine it being a huge seller.   Teresa drinking it with everything from tomato based entrees to desserts is maybe the weak link.  I think it had zero appeal to male drinkers.  I am just wondering if post prison there will be any interest in her products.  The whole idea may seem stale.

[FairyDusted]

Excellent layout of the numbers," Real Folk Style."  Shiiiiiit. Felon Teresa could have just about BOUGHT my used house for one year in the Manor. Sweet Dreams Tree!  

[Emme]

I wonder how much Juicy has spent on his side pieces over the years?

I'm guessing not much. I believe one news piece had him meeting a supposed mistress at an Applebee's. Romantic.

[Emme]

I must say I am one of the few who does not dislike Jacqueline.  I have always found her a  little too real and very sensitive.  Plus I think her husband is a good guy.  He is patient and kind on the show and loves Jacqueline-warts and all.  Anyway this post was just a little more conversation on the very specific incidents Wire Wrap so wisely raised.

Zoeysmom, I've always had a soft spot for Jacqueline too. I think Chris has always seemed very supportive and loving toward her. I used to enjoy watching them on the show. I also admired Chris as a father - particularly in his dealings with Ashlee. He seemed to have the perfect balance as a stepfather - firm, loving, concerned, yet cognizant of his role, and willing to work with her birth father when needed for Ashlee's benefit.

[One Tough Cookie]

The damage they did to Jac still stands today, so many really believe that Jac is a drunk because of them.

 

 

I think Jaclyn's performance on the show is the reason so many people think she's a drunk.

[zoeysmom]

For those who might not be buying the Teresa Giudice upcoming thriller about her life and thought(s) behind bars:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/6497-what-awaits-marion-jones-in-prison-camp

 

Where Teresa get these hairbrained ideas from: http://www.allabouttrh.com/teresa-giudice-update-inmates/

 

I may be alone here but does anyone see a correlation between the lives of Martha Stewart and Teresa Giudice?  They are both on TV.  IIRC Martha did not write a book about her experiences.

Edited January 15, 2015 by zoeysmom

[WireWrap]

I think Jaclyn's performance on the show is the reason so many people think she's a drunk.

Jac drank no more than the rest of the cast, except for Joe Giudice, she drank far less than he did. Joe is a drunk, not Jac. Jac is emotionally weak/vulnerable but she is not mean nor a drunk. 

 

For those who might not be buying the Teresa Giudice upcoming thriller about her life and thought(s) behind bars:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/6497-what-awaits-marion-jones-in-prison-camp

 

Where Teresa get these hairbrained ideas from: http://www.allabouttrh.com/teresa-giudice-update-inmates/

 

I may be alone here but does anyone see a correlation between the lives of Martha Stewart and Teresa Giudice?  They are both on TV.  IIRC Martha did not write a book about her experiences.

Teresa is as far from MS as someone can get and still be on TV. Teresa is an admitted liar, thief, grifter that has to partner up with a real writer to even put out a basic cookbook featuring recipes written by someone other than herself. Teresa has never had an original idea.

[Jennifersdc]

 

I may be alone here but does anyone see a correlation between the lives of Martha Stewart and Teresa Giudice?  They are both on TV.  IIRC Martha did not write a book about her experiences.

Martha didn't need the money.

Martha also realizes how embarrassing it is (the not a famewhore thing).

I honestly don't really see a major correlation beyond the prison thing. I'm not personally a fan, but I give her credit for revolutionizing (maybe a strong word) home entertaining. I don't think her conviction defines her. It sure will always define Teresa though. The woman who's contribution is artificially flavored Andre.

[Padma]

Jac drank no more than the rest of the cast, except for Joe Giudice, she drank far less than he did. Joe is a drunk, not Jac. Jac is emotionally weak/vulnerable but she is not mean nor a drunk. 

 

Teresa is as far from MS as someone can get and still be on TV. Teresa is an admitted liar, thief, grifter that has to partner up with a real writer to even put out a basic cookbook featuring recipes written by someone other than herself. Teresa has never had an original idea.

I couldn't agree more about the differences between the two. Martha is an incredibly hard worker, runs honest businesses and knows what is happening in them--very hands on and -genuinely- knowledgable. Teresa, as you say, is a liar, thief and grifter and we saw on RHs how little she knows about writing OR about "her" own recipes.

 

And Martha went to prison for not cooperating in testifying to law enforcement about a tip she probably received from her friend recommending selling her stock sooner rather than later. It was a one time thing, she made relatively little money from it, and I think people could understand the choice she made even if they disagree completely with it. She took her punishment quietly and came out with dignity.

 

Teresa is just disgusting.

[zoeysmom]

Martha didn't need the money.

Martha also realizes how embarrassing it is (the not a famewhore thing).

I honestly don't really see a major correlation beyond the prison thing. I'm not personally a fan, but I give her credit for revolutionizing (maybe a strong word) home entertaining. I don't think her conviction defines her. It sure will always define Teresa though. The woman who's contribution is artificially flavored Andre.

At first I made the comment one of the differences between Teresa and Martha was 30 IQ points.  Then I realized I was insulting Martha it is probably closer to 50 IQ points. 

 

I really didn't know who Martha Stewart and one day I was walking by a coffee table book sale and picked up her Martha Stewart Gardening-this has to be at least 20 years ago.  She is an incredible researcher.  I also admire her organization skills.  In the spirit of honesty I just made a batch of her  French Butter cookies with  only have the use of one arm and I make her Potatoes Pave-the best potatoes ever.  Then I tell myself I am not a fan but I sure as heck seem to have incorporated several of her ideas into my life.  I have exactly ZERO of Teresa's.  I never really held Martha's conviction against her -it was the price she paid for being the ultimate control freak.

 

When Teresa gets out of prison she has four daughters and a convict husband to look out for, uncertain housing and mountain of debt.  Martha had a billion dollar empire and some companion animals and horses that  needed tending.

[Persnickety1]

Persnickety!  The mugshot has disappeared!  More conspiracy? You mentioned that the friend that posted it to your FB feed, swears that it's authentic but couldn't reveal her source.  Does she have friends in the picture taking department of the penitentiary?  Very curious, indeed.

 

A quick google search came up with nothing.  Anybody?

 

Good question.  I don't know her well, but she did say her friend lived in Connecticut and works "in the system."

 

My theory (which could be wrong but it's mine, hehe) is that the person who had access to that picture sent it to her friend confidentially and it was't supposed to be distributed, so the person posting it into my newsfeed yanked it as soon as she found out her friend (the source) could get into trouble.  

 

Anywho, I've been reading everywhere that Bravo initially wanted to bring back Jacqueline (hopefully that godawful Manzo'd with Assholes tanked) back to RNONJ, as well as Jacqueline, to fill the void left by Teresa (presumably those abysmal twins as well and the breast cancer survivor).

 

Then I read where Bravo was dragging its heels and not wanting to film anything at all until Teresa's stint is over.

 

That would be a long gap between seasons; however, Bravo wasn't shy about waiting almost 2 years, I believe it was, before bringing on the previous season of RHONYC, so it wouldn't be totally unheard of them to let something sit for awhile.  I also think the godawful "Thicker Than Water" waited more than a year between seasons.

 

One of the reports I read yesterday indicated that Caroline and Jacqueline were practically fire-breathing dragons at the thought of having to wait on a Bravo paycheck until Teresa is released.

 

I think the source was Radar OnLine but, because I love to picture Caroline and Jacqueline totally pissed off, I kind of want to believe it.  Even if it isn't true.  

Edited January 16, 2015 by Persnickety1

[AnnA]

 

 (hopefully that godawful Manzo'd with Assholes tanked)

 

 

 

I hate to burst your bubble but Manzo'd with Assholes was renewed for a second season.

 

Manzo'd Renewed for S2

 

I don't remember which site it was but a different site reported that Caroline told Bravo she could do both shows (Manzo'd and RHONJ).   

[WireWrap]

Good question.  I don't know her well, but she did say her friend lived in Connecticut and works "in the system."

 

My theory (which could be wrong but it's mine, hehe) is that the person who had access to that picture sent it to her friend confidentially and it was't supposed to be distributed, so the person posting it into my newsfeed yanked it as soon as she found out her friend (the source) could get into trouble.  

 

Anywho, I've been reading everywhere that Bravo initially wanted to bring back Jacqueline (hopefully that godawful Manzo'd with Assholes tanked) back to RNONJ, as well as Jacqueline, to fill the void left by Teresa (presumably those abysmal twins as well and the breast cancer survivor).

 

Then I read where Bravo was dragging its heels and not wanting to film anything at all until Teresa's stint is over.

 

That would be a long gap between seasons; however, Bravo wasn't shy about waiting almost 2 years, I believe it was, before bringing on the previous season of RHONYC, so it wouldn't be totally unheard of them to let something sit for awhile.  I also think the godawful "Thicker Than Water" waited more than a year between seasons.

 

One of the reports I read yesterday indicated that Caroline and Jacqueline were practically fire-breathing dragons at the thought of having to wait on a Bravo paycheck until Teresa is released.

 

I think the source was Radar OnLine but, because I love to picture Caroline and Jacqueline totally pissed off, I kind of want to believe it.  Even if it isn't true.  

LOL, I would rather watch Caroline/family, Jac/family, Melissa/family, Kathy/family with a limited Dina/daughter than Teresa/family any day of the week, but that is just me.

[Rahul]

I couldn't agree more about the differences between the two. Martha is an incredibly hard worker, runs honest businesses and knows what is happening in them--very hands on and -genuinely- knowledgable. Teresa, as you say, is a liar, thief and grifter and we saw on RHs how little she knows about writing OR about "her" own recipes.

 

And Martha went to prison for not cooperating in testifying to law enforcement about a tip she probably received from her friend recommending selling her stock sooner rather than later. It was a one time thing, she made relatively little money from it, and I think people could understand the choice she made even if they disagree completely with it. She took her punishment quietly and came out with dignity.

 

Teresa is just disgusting.

 

Martha Stewart also has genuinely marketable skills and talent. Teresa has none whatsoever.

[zoeysmom]

I hate to burst your bubble but Manzo'd with Assholes was renewed for a second season.

 

Manzo'd Renewed for S2

 

I don't remember which site it was but a different site reported that Caroline told Bravo she could do both shows (Manzo'd and RHONJ).   

I don't mind the Manzos but their second season will last about three episodes without a RHONJ lead in.

[zoeysmom]

LOL, I would rather watch Caroline/family, Jac/family, Melissa/family, Kathy/family with a limited Dina/daughter than Teresa/family any day of the week, but that is just me.

Count me in....much like Brandi I always felt Teresa didn't belong.  I knew her wealth was fake when she ended up at the end of the first season at a picnic table in front of the mansion telling Dina they had moved in the day before.

[Olive]

Olive can correct me if I am wrong-but it is my understanding that Joe has to comply with the court orders and file monthly financial statements with the court.  Now I don't know how the court feels about some kind benefactor making payments on their behalf but I would think that one of the questions the government might have is how the loan is being serviced on the "house that fraud built".  Maybe someone in New Jersey knows the foreclosure process.  To me, if I were the note holder as soon as the note was 90 days behind I would file for foreclosure.  There is still an outside possibility the note would be paid and the property would no longer be subject to the lender's mortgage.  So maybe come April we will see the great foreclosure sale.

 

Teresa and Joe seemed to resign themselves to the fact they would lose their properties-although I would think they could manage the house they call the rental.  Also, the restitution was for Wells Fargo-so some of the notes on either the shore house or the rental should be paid off after distribution of the restitution funds.

I don't really know the workings of the court, but I don't think they care if someone else pays, as long as they get the money.

[hottesthw]

Jac drank no more than the rest of the cast, except for Joe Giudice, she drank far less than he did. Joe is a drunk, not Jac. Jac is emotionally weak/vulnerable but she is not mean nor a drunk.

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I can't stand Ashlee/Ashley but I felt incredibly bad for her watching her asshole mother berate her, put her down, embarrass her and chew her out on national tv. A nice person doesn't do that IMO. Jac is mean on a good day, I can only imagine what she's like after a few drinks.

Remember when Teresa screamed at Danielle that her house cost $5 million? Heh, that lying liar knew good and damn well her house wasn't worth anywhere near that. It's all about material wealth - or the illusion of it - for Teresa, even to the detriment of her children's well-being. Pretty sick.

Back when she said it I'd believe the house was worth $5mil. Now, not so much.

That's the reason for no visit, to not disrupt the girl's plans? Oh I don't think so. It was the very first time they could visit and they didn't. To me, it seems like there has to be something else.

It could also be a simple reason of paperwork not being completed. The folks at BOP don't work at lightening speed that's for sure. And if you ask they'll just tell you it will be done when it gets done.

[Barb23]

LOL, I would rather watch Caroline/family, Jac/family, Melissa/family, Kathy/family with a limited Dina/daughter than Teresa/family any day of the week, but that is just me.

Count me in too. Caroline has never gotten on my nerves & my favorite line of all time is when she said (paraphrasing) "just watch, someone is going to go somewhere". Referencing Tre&Joe. She nailed it !

[One Tough Cookie]

Manzo'd with Assholes

 

 

I will love you forever for that!

[Persnickety1]

Anywho, I've been reading everywhere that Bravo initially wanted to bring back Jacqueline (hopefully that godawful Manzo'd with Assholes tanked) back to RNONJ, as well as Jacqueline, to fill the void left by Teresa (presumably those abysmal twins as well and the breast cancer survivor).

 

Then I read where Bravo was dragging its heels and not wanting to film anything at all until Teresa's stint is over.

 

That would be a long gap between seasons; however, Bravo wasn't shy about waiting almost 2 years, I believe it was, before bringing on the previous season of RHONYC, so it wouldn't be totally unheard of them to let something sit for awhile.  I also think the godawful "Thicker Than Water" waited more than a year between seasons.

 

One of the reports I read yesterday indicated that Caroline and Jacqueline were practically fire-breathing dragons at the thought of having to wait on a Bravo paycheck until Teresa is released.

 

I think the source was Radar OnLine but, because I love to picture Caroline and Jacqueline totally pissed off, I kind of want to believe it.  Even if it isn't true.  

 

And this just in:  Manzo'd with Assholes is coming back for a second season.  Which makes sense in a Bravo-world sort of way, if it was true that Bravo was putting RHONJ on the back burner until Teresa is released and Caroline and Jacqueline were screaming bloody hell about their need of those Bravo bucks.

 

http://realitywives.net/blogs/caroline-manzos-manzod-children-renewed-second-season-bravo/

Edited January 17, 2015 by Persnickety1

[zoeysmom]

And this just in:  Manzo'd with Assholes is coming back for a second season.  Which makes sense in a Bravo-world sort of way, if it was true that Bravo was putting RHONJ on the back burner until Teresa is released and Caroline and Jacqueline were screaming bloody hell about their need of those Bravo bucks.

 

http://realitywives.net/blogs/caroline-manzos-manzod-children-renewed-second-season-bravo/

Manzo'd won't make it without the NJ lead in.  They have Lauren's wedding and not  to be unkind I doubt that is going to be a ratings buster.  

[Showthyme]

It appears that Bravo signs new shows for two seasons: Kathy Griffin's talk show, Kandi's star search; and Property Envy all had two seasons. I hope that Manzo'd with Children is seeing its final season. I would like to see Property Envy again. Jeff Lewis was in his element on that show.

[AnnA]

It appears that Bravo signs new shows for two seasons: Kathy Griffin's talk show, Kandi's star search; and Property Envy all had two seasons. I hope that Manzo'd with Children is seeing its final season. I would like to see Property Envy again. Jeff Lewis was in his element on that show.

 

I believe the contracts are written so that the stars of the shows are under contract with Bravo for two years but Bravo reserves the right to cancel the show before the two years.

[AnnA]

I don't know why we're still posting in the "Watch Teresa's New Year's Video" thread so I've decided to move back here.

 

Does anyone think Teresa got a visit from her family this weekend?

Edited January 18, 2015 by AnnA

[FairyDusted]

Haven't looked around yet.....But I'm betting no visit for our Inmate.

[AnnA]

Haven't looked around yet.....But I'm betting no visit for our Inmate.

 

I looked and there's nothing..........not a single word about Teresa getting a visit or about Teresa.

 

Her PR peeps probably haven't gotten paid.  

[zoeysmom]

I looked and there's nothing..........not a single word about Teresa getting a visit or about Teresa.

 

Her PR peeps probably haven't gotten paid.  

One of two things-she has instructed her attorney not to release visitation information or they can't get Joe approved as a visitor and is awaiting a new candidate to bring the girls around.

 

My guess is anyone visiting a loved one at the same time as Teresa will make it public if they saw the girls or Joe there.

[pawsodoom]

Looks like Teresa had some visitors...

 

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/teresa-giudice-gets-first-prison-visit-from-joe-daughters-details-2015191

[Padma]

Thanks for the link. I thought that was kind of funny (if true) about so many women trying to be her best friend. I wonder if they've seen the show or just think she's some kind of tv star (an impression that Teresa would contribute to, since that's how she sees herself--plus, of course, as a "best selling author")?

 

Per article, how is "released two months early" = before Christmas?  Shouldn't she have to at least stay there until early 2016?

[ginger90]

I can't honestly picture prison inmates and staff being ga ga over Teresa. The only thing I would believe is Teresa crying, many would I'd say. So, good guess there!!

[AnnA]

Thanks for the link. I thought that was kind of funny (if true) about so many women trying to be her best friend. I wonder if they've seen the show or just think she's some kind of tv star (an impression that Teresa would contribute to, since that's how she sees herself--plus, of course, as a "best selling author")?

 

Per article, how is "released two months early" = before Christmas?  Shouldn't she have to at least stay there until early 2016?

 

I don't believe that release date.  These websites often get their facts assbackwards.  I think her release date (with time off) is February 6, 2016.  I'm not 100% on that date but I'm pretty sure and it's the one stuck in my head.

 

I'm sure that almost anyone in prison is looking for a distraction from the day to day and having Teresa there fits the bill.

Looks like Teresa had some visitors...

 

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/teresa-giudice-gets-first-prison-visit-from-joe-daughters-details-2015191

 

I can't help but wonder what she told the two little ones.  I'd also love to know how Milania behaved during the visit.  My guess is she was too traumatized by her surroundings to misbehave.

[zoeysmom]

it looks like Teresa' attorney is comfortable spending the day with the Wakiles.  http://www.examiner.com/article/teresa-giudice-s-lawyer-hangs-with-kathy-wakile-joe-giudice-not-coping-well

 

In my long list of things of why Teresa is an idiot at the top of the list was her tossing her family aside for Joe's.  I would have been adamant about my kids going to my family.  Of course I also think Joe should have started serving his sentence back in October so he would be back with the family sooner.  Well it would still be three years.

[AnnA]

it looks like Teresa' attorney is comfortable spending the day with the Wakiles.  http://www.examiner.com/article/teresa-giudice-s-lawyer-hangs-with-kathy-wakile-joe-giudice-not-coping-well

 

In my long list of things of why Teresa is an idiot at the top of the list was her tossing her family aside for Joe's.  I would have been adamant about my kids going to my family.  Of course I also think Joe should have started serving his sentence back in October so he would be back with the family sooner.  Well it would still be three years.

 

 

Thanks for posting that link.  I'm surprised that Teresa would use that attorney considering his relationship with the Gorgas and Wakiles.

 

The BEST part of that article was the link to the piece in the Boston Herald.   It's a good read and I recommend it.

 

Boston Herald on Teresa in Prison

 

One of the things it clarified was the commissary rules.  Teresa cannot spend $320 per week.  

 

"The new inmate is allowed to spend up to $160 every two weeks at the lockup's store. Offerings include name-brand toothpaste ($3), hair color ($9), Cheetos ($2), mascara ($6) and 44 over-the-counter remedies. The shoe selection is less extensive: workboots ($70) or flip-flops ($1)."

Edited January 20, 2015 by AnnA

[zenme]

Hopefully that commissary operates on real funds. No credit for Teresa please.

[AnnA]

Hopefully that commissary operates on real funds. No credit for Teresa please.

LOL

The funds have to be in her commissary account before she can place an order. Having to pay "upfront" and live within a budget should be a valuable learning experience for Teresa.

I'm hoping the tabloids elaborate on the "Gia is becoming a wild child" comment in that Boston Herald piece. We can't believe everything we read but I'd like to think that the Boston Herald is more careful about the accuracy of what they print than the tabloids.

ETA: I just read that Boston Herald article again and noticed that they mentioned Teresa was issued khakis upon entering the prison camp and not a green uniform as shown in that mug shot. The greens are issued to female inmates of the main prison and are not used at the prison camp.

Edited January 20, 2015 by AnnA

[Jennifersdc]

Looks like Teresa had some visitors...

 

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/teresa-giudice-gets-first-prison-visit-from-joe-daughters-details-2015191

Did her lawyer release another statement? If we're lucky it's on his website.

I'm also seriously anticipating Better Call Saul. Feb 8th is the big day.

[Jennifersdc]

it looks like Teresa' attorney is comfortable spending the day with the Wakiles.  http://www.examiner.com/article/teresa-giudice-s-lawyer-hangs-with-kathy-wakile-joe-giudice-not-coping-well

 

In my long list of things of why Teresa is an idiot at the top of the list was her tossing her family aside for Joe's.  I would have been adamant about my kids going to my family.  Of course I also think Joe should have started serving his sentence back in October so he would be back with the family sooner.  Well it would still be three years.

I hadn't read this before I posted above about her new lawyer. I looked at the article link with accompanying photo/Twitter proof. Too funny. Just how many people can fit in that clown car?

[LotusFlower]

Per article, how is "released two months early" = before Christmas?  Shouldn't she have to at least stay there until early 2016?

I don't believe that release date.  These websites often get their facts assbackwards.  I think her release date (with time off) is February 6, 2016.  I'm not 100% on that date but I'm pretty sure and it's the one stuck in my head.

Right - Feb. 6, 2016 is her scheduled release date, with time off factored in for good behavior. (Obviously, the date will be pushed back if she "misbehaves."). But she also gets to apply for home confinement or a halfway house assignment for the last 10% of her sentence. If she applies (likely), and if she is successful (also pretty likely), then she would get to leave for wherever she's assigned around 6 weeks earlier than her Feb. 6 release date, which is indeed on or about Christmas, 2015.