S04.E14: Mitch's Son and the Unconditional Approval of a Government Agency

[shapeshifter]

2 hours ago, rhys said:

I thought the message was due to the 2 peoples deaths that were on the vanity card. I just figured they both died from colon cancer.

I'm not seeing that particular card right now. Is it still up somewhere?

 

1 minute ago, rmontro said:

Then when I woke up I was in intense pain, apparently they had blown too much air in me, and it was intensely uncomfortable until I was able to release it all several hours later.  Even then I was sore for about a week.

I'm sorry that happened to you. It happened to my sister too. My Gastroenterologist takes time to vacuum out the excess air. Not all Gastroenterologists are created equal. I may go back to Illinois when I need my next one in a few years.

[rmontro]

13 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

I'm sorry that happened to you. It happened to my sister too. My Gastroenterologist takes time to vacuum out the excess air. Not all Gastroenterologists are created equal. I may go back to Illinois when I need my next one in a few years.

In the grand scheme of things, it wasn't that big of a deal.  If that's the worst of my problems, I'll be doing pretty well.  Vacuuming out the excess air sounds like it would have been a heck of a good idea though.

As for the vanity card, here's a link:

http://chucklorre.com/?s=3

[Chit Chat]

24 minutes ago, rmontro said:

When you talk about older relationships, there aren't many illusions left about the less pleasant aspects of our anatomies.

It's just that they haven't been dating that long.  For me, I would be uncomfortable going through that with someone with whom intimacy was fairly new.  I think the show was just trying to encourage couples to get a colonoscopy together, but I really don't need this show to be a PSA for my medical needs.  ;)

29 minutes ago, rmontro said:

Then when I woke up I was in intense pain, apparently they had blown too much air in me, and it was intensely uncomfortable until I was able to release it all several hours later.  Even then I was sore for about a week.

I'm sorry that you had a difficult time.   I had forgotten about the bloating afterwards.  I was lucky not to be in pain, but I hate that it did that to you.  That's rough.

[rmontro]

43 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

I'm sorry that you had a difficult time.   I had forgotten about the bloating afterwards.  I was lucky not to be in pain, but I hate that it did that to you.  That's rough.

Sucked at the time, but it's not that big a deal.  That too passed, no pun intended  :)

[rhys]

4 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

I'm not seeing that particular card right now. Is it still up somewhere?

 

Oh geez, I'm an idiot. I have never read/noticed those vanity cards before. I thought you all were talking about the dedication notices at the end of the show. Mea culpa. 

[shapeshifter]

4 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

 

7 hours ago, rhys said:

I thought the message was due to the 2 peoples deaths that were on the vanity card. I just figured they both died from colon cancer.

I'm not seeing that particular card right now. Is it still up somewhere?

 

4 hours ago, rmontro said:

s for the vanity card, here's a link:

http://chucklorre.com/?s=3

I saw that vanity card but that one does not acknowledge “2 peoples deaths,” although I think I did see such a card. I’ll try to find on my laptop later, or maybe someone else will. 

[Chit Chat]

There were 2 names that scrolled by before the vanity card.  It might've said 'in memory" or "for".  I can't remember the details. 

[Gimmick Genius]

17 hours ago, rmontro said:

 The yippee-ki-yay Mr. Falcon commentary about censored movies was pretty funny, although I'm not sure how much of a joke it was since it was real.

Georgie said "Mister Falcon" wasn't anybody, just a line to change... not exactly true. I'm not looking up the specific but at some point there was a "falcon" reference about the bad guy played by Franco Nero; a code name for the transport or something. So it's not completely out of nowhere. 

My favorite is the edited version of THE HARD WAY. Michael J. Fox is a Hollywood actor shadowing (and annoying) tough cop James Woods. At one point Woods handcuffs him to a couch to ditch him, and Fox goes into a rant: "You slug in a ditch! Oh, you slug in a ditch. SLUG IN A DITCH!!" Marginally more clever than "Son of a Mitch" but come on...

[ams1001]

3 hours ago, ChitChat said:

There were 2 names that scrolled by before the vanity card.  It might've said 'in memory" or "for".  I can't remember the details. 

I googled and found two separate articles on different sites (both are those poorly written sites that are more a vehicle for ads than information) each mentioning one person, one was apparently a crew member (but wasn't clear on what he actually did) and the other was a hairdresser for the show.

[Gimmick Genius]

2 minutes ago, Gimmick Genius said:

Marginally more clever than "Son of a Mitch" but come on...

And more recently: in the Avengers movies, Captain America has been teased for his early prudish objection to bad "Language!" However he has become more accepting of it. Then in the TV broadcast of ENDGAME, Steve Rogers comes face to face with Captain America in 2012 Stark Tower and mutters: "You've got to be cheating me!" They edited that? THAT? (But not the "America's ass" line 😊)

[hoodooznoodooz]

On Brooklyn 99, Charles Boyle sweetly misunderstands McClane and earnestly believes he is yelling, “Yippee, kayak, other buckets!”

[HouseofBeck]

On 4/15/2021 at 7:54 PM, ChitChat said:

If they could make the prep something other than that horrible syrupy liquid then it wouldn't be so bad, but after half of a bottle (which is huge), I couldn't take one more sip without gagging and almost throwing up!!  There has to be a better way. We can land a rover on Mars, but we can't come up with a better way to make a person poop their guts out in an easier way? C'mon researchers!  Develop something better.   

I have yet to have a prep that tastes anything less than foul. Give me pills instead! It is, however, the worst part of the experience, along with the fasting. By the time you get to the actual procedure, it’s a relief, and you don’t feel a thing. 

I don’t think having another person go through it at the exact same time I am would make a difference to me, but I hope Meemaw finds it more bearable.

Still sick of Sheldon once again getting away with going against a parent’s wishes just for the sake of his ego—and ultimately being allowed to. It makes me never want to rewatch Big Bang.

[eel21788]

On 4/16/2021 at 12:32 PM, Katy M said:

I'm with Connie.  Avoid the doctor and just plop over dead when it's time.

My father had a friend who always said, "If you go to the doctor, he'll find something wrong with you." Not going was just a better option as far as he was concerned. He died at 87. (He either hit a tree then had a stroke, or had a stroke then hit a tree). 

[Ms Lark]

On 4/15/2021 at 8:54 PM, ChitChat said:

If they could make the prep something other than that horrible syrupy liquid then it wouldn't be so bad, but after half of a bottle (which is huge), I couldn't take one more sip without gagging and almost throwing up!!  There has to be a better way. We can land a rover on Mars, but we can't come up with a better way to make a person poop their guts out in an easier way? C'mon researchers!  Develop something better

Keep it ice cold. Use a small glass. Hold your nose and chug it down. Rinse. Keep the glass in the fridge, too.

[eel21788]

3 hours ago, Ms Lark said:

Keep it ice cold. Use a small glass. Hold your nose and chug it down. Rinse. Keep the glass in the fridge, too.

I agree with the ice cold part but not the chugging. I filled up a cup and just took constant small sips from it. I was still getting in the proper number of ounces per ten minutes that was required in the instructions but felt a lot less bloated by it, and it made the taste more tolerable, too. (I did go through all four flavor packets). 

[ItCouldBeWorse]

On 4/16/2021 at 2:32 PM, Katy M said:

I'm with Connie.  Avoid the doctor and just plop over dead when it's time.

But what if you don't "just plop over dead"? What if you suffer for an extended time from a condition that would have been treatable if caught earlier?  And your family suffers with you?  (Upon early diagnosis, you could still choose to decline treatment if you want.)

[SmithW6079]

Normally, I hate episodes where Sheldon is a smug, know-it-all little prick, but I thought this episode was pretty funny. Yes, he was wrong for stealing the check to the IRS, but the showdown between him and the IRS agent made me laugh out loud several times. However, Sheldon's work-around for "getting paid" for doing his parents' taxes was pretty much a lie, and supposedly he can't lie. George is the football coach, but what else does he teach? Is it gym or health? Either way, it's not economics and he's not teaching Sheldon a lesson. Also, a train is not "payment" for doing the taxes, but perhaps by that point, the IRS agent was humiliated by being bested by an 11-year-old.

I'm not a fan of Dale, so I wish they'd kill him off or write him off sooner rather than later. He was a prick to Georgie, so why is Connie still with him?

One does not do colonoscopy prep with another person. In the same house. With one bathroom. I, too, have had many over the years (and my last prep was the best-tasting stuff I've had, as those things go). I think it was either Clenpiq or Prepopik.

[Katy M]

21 minutes ago, SmithW6079 said:

He was a prick to Georgie, so why is Connie still with him?

Because he apologized and gave him his job back.

[suzsqueak]

On 4/15/2021 at 5:54 PM, ChitChat said:

If they could make the prep something other than that horrible syrupy liquid then it wouldn't be so bad, but after half of a bottle (which is huge), I couldn't take one more sip without gagging and almost throwing up!!  There has to be a better way. We can land a rover on Mars, but we can't come up with a better way to make a person poop their guts out in an easier way? C'mon researchers!  Develop something better.   

There is a bunch better prep option now using Miralax that a lot of GI MDs use instead of GoLightly or one of those other grossly flavored preps. I felt for MeeMaw and Dale drinking that awful liquid even though it wasn't real.

 

[lh25]

On 4/16/2021 at 4:02 PM, rmontro said:

Dale and MeeMaw would probably be smarter doing their colonoscopies on separate occasions.  That way they could drive each other home  afterward. 

That's what I was thinking.  This way, a third person has to be involved, and unless the facility has two rooms to do the procedure and two sets of staff, they will be one after the other.  Meaning a longer wait time for the driver.

[SoMuchTV]

8 minutes ago, lh25 said:

That's what I was thinking.  This way, a third person has to be involved, and unless the facility has two rooms to do the procedure and two sets of staff, they will be one after the other.  Meaning a longer wait time for the driver.

In my experience, TV colonoscopy clinics always have unlimited appointments and facilities to accommodate the last-minute friend whose bluff was called.

[chediavolo]

On 4/15/2021 at 8:32 PM, Spartan Girl said:

Well, it was nice to see Sheldon owning up to possibly getting his family in real trouble with the IRS all because he couldn’t face that he was possibly wrong. Even when it turned out he was right, I still loved him and George teaming up against the IRS.

Missy finding loopholes for swearing was priceless.

I’m not looking forward to getting a colonoscopy. I don’t have to worry about it for a while but still.

It was good to see Missy taking a part inthis episode & not just sitting on the couch. I found the swearing thing typically juvenile but maybe more funny with a younger child. 
Colonoscopy is not necessary unless you have personal issues or a close family history. I have a friend who had hers punctured by the procedure & subsequently had to have 2 operations & is suing.   Ask for the ColoGuard  test. 

Also, that did not look like the scene in DieHard where he says that infamous line. 

Edited April 27, 2021 by chediavolo

[Katy M]

1 hour ago, chediavolo said:

Also, that did not look like the scene in DieHard where he says that infamous line. 

It's when he says it in Die Hard 2.  

[shapeshifter]

1 hour ago, chediavolo said:

Colonoscopy is not necessary unless you have personal issues or a close family history.

--or if you are over a certain age, which MeeMaw is.

At 63 I had "no personal issues," no family history, not even risky dietary or lifestyle choices, but I did have Stage IV colon cancer. 

 

50 has been the age doctors recommend a first colonoscopy, but statistics are suggesting it be lowered.
But insurance will cover it at 50.

1 hour ago, chediavolo said:

I have a friend who had hers punctured by the procedure & subsequently had to have 2 operations & is suing.

Not all gastroenterologists are created equal. Ask friends for recommendations. Based on this thread alone, most will be only too happy to talk your ear off about it. ;)

[Callietwo]

4 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

But insurance will cover it at 50.

Mine was covered by my insurance much younger than that, but they only did the colonoscopy after a whole host of other tests failed to show the issue.  That didn't either and I ended up with a Camera Endoscope instead, which finally did provide results that gave a diagnosis.  

I agree with those that think Connie & Dale doing this 'together' was incredibly stupid especially if she only has one bathroom.  Egads what a nightmare.  

Edited April 27, 2021 by Callietwo

[chediavolo]

1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:

--or if you are over a certain age, which MeeMaw is.

At 63 I had "no personal issues," no family history, not even risky dietary or lifestyle choices, but I did have Stage IV colon cancer. 

 

50 has been the age doctors recommend a first colonoscopy, but statistics are suggesting it be lowered.
But insurance will cover it at 50.

Not all gastroenterologists are created equal. Ask friends for recommendations. Based on this thread alone, most will be only too happy to talk your ear off about it. ;)

So sorry hope you are well now❤️For my own curiosity, Had you been having yearly stool tests or cologuard tests before your colonoscopy?

[shapeshifter]

1 hour ago, chediavolo said:

So sorry hope you are well now❤️For my own curiosity, Had you been having yearly stool tests or cologuard tests before your colonoscopy?

I had a couple of negative fecal occult blood tests 7+ years before my stage IV diagnosis.
Then that doctor quit practicing and my new doctor didn't order them again.
The excellent doctor who eventually did my colonoscopy with the watery type of prep (and who used a child-sized scope because of my colon structure, and routinely vacuums out extra air to prevent post-procedural discomfort) said that my cancerous, inoperable polyps had been growing there for "at least" 7 years.

I'm glad they had MeeMaw and Dale get colonoscopies on the show if it normalizes them enough to save the life of even one viewer, but I'm not sure the plot point about prepping together was well thought out. I can see it potentially being very funny, but they left out the funny parts, which would have resulted in them retiring to their own bathrooms to complete the prep. Maybe they decided that would give a negative spin on the procedure and so left it out. Okay, but then leave it out entirely.
IDK. I guess it got us talking.

[eel21788]

8 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

50 has been the age doctors recommend a first colonoscopy, but statistics are suggesting it be lowered.
But insurance will cover it at 50.

Actually last century, it was recommended that you have a sigmoidoscopy at 50 and 55 then your first colonoscopy at 60 if you didn't have a first degree relative with a colon cancer history. Around 2000-2002 it was decided that polyps and colon cancer didn't gravitate to the descending colon, so the sigmoidoscopy wasn't adequate. That is when the screening age for a first colonoscopy went down to 50. Now GI specialists are starting to lean towards starting at age 45. Usually once the recommendation is solidified, it takes a few years for insurance to get on board and become grudgingly agreeable to paying for it.

[SmithW6079]

On 4/17/2021 at 2:44 PM, Gimmick Genius said:

And more recently: in the Avengers movies, Captain America has been teased for his early prudish objection to bad "Language!" However he has become more accepting of it. Then in the TV broadcast of ENDGAME, Steve Rogers comes face to face with Captain America in 2012 Stark Tower and mutters: "You've got to be cheating me!" They edited that? THAT? (But not the "America's ass" line 😊)

Well, come on, it is Chris Evans we're talking about. Truly, it is America's ass. 😉

[John Potts]

“I have a physical tomorrow”

“So your plan is to start eating healthy now!?”

I thought that Connie’s attitude to Doctors was completely understandable and Dale was actually sympathetic, if not above a bit of gentle ribbing.

On 4/16/2021 at 1:54 AM, ChitChat said:

If they could make the prep something other than that horrible syrupy liquid then it wouldn't be so bad, but after half of a bottle (which is huge), I couldn't take one more sip without gagging and almost throwing up!

Oh God, don’t remind me. The liquid seems OK at first but you never seem to reach the end of it. I found the colonoscopy itself quite interesting because the Doctor turned the monitor so I could watch. It’s definitely better than having an enema (don’t look it up) which is way way worse!

I would so not want Sheldon to be involved in any crimes I was perpetrating, as he’d immediately draw attention to whatever we were doing. Not that I have ever done any crimes that I’m prepared to admit to in a public forum.

On 4/16/2021 at 7:32 PM, Katy M said:

Regardless of whether or not this cost them any money, I still think George should have punished Sheldon. He specifically told him to let it go so that they wouldn't get on the IRS' radar and Sheldon did it anyway.  Kid needs to learn to listen and obey.

Particularly since IRL (but not in sitcoms), the government will rarely admit it makes mistakes and it will takes years of legal action you can't afford even if you are right. Sheldon has to learn some fights aren't worth taking on.

[proserpina65]

On 4/15/2021 at 8:54 PM, ChitChat said:

If they could make the prep something other than that horrible syrupy liquid then it wouldn't be so bad, but after half of a bottle (which is huge), I couldn't take one more sip without gagging and almost throwing up!!  There has to be a better way. We can land a rover on Mars, but we can't come up with a better way to make a person poop their guts out in an easier way? C'mon researchers!  Develop something better.   

I didn't have a huge bottle of stuff, just two much smaller bottles.  Still nasty tasting, though.  And I wasn't thrilled about spending that much time in the bathroom.  But I was out cold for the procedure itself, it went well, and I don't have to do it again for 10 years.  Yay!

I loved Missy's faux swearing.  "Yippee-ki-yay Mr. Falcon", indeed.  And using the Bible to do it was terrific.

Hell, any storyline which makes Mary annoyed is funny to me.

 

[proserpina65]

On 4/20/2021 at 12:41 PM, SmithW6079 said:

I think it was either Clenpiq or Prepopik.

I had Clenpiq.  It started off okay but got very salty tasting very quickly.

[proserpina65]

On 4/27/2021 at 6:01 AM, chediavolo said:

Ask for the ColoGuard  test.

If you using insurance, they might not pay for the ColoGuard test, and even if they do, they often won't pay for a subsequent colonoscopy if the ColoGuard test finds something requiring further investigation.  Most insurance plans cover the colonoscopy.   It's a trade-off.  Something to discuss with one's doctor, for sure.

On 4/27/2021 at 8:51 AM, chediavolo said:

Had you been having yearly stool tests or cologuard tests before your colonoscopy?

Not all insurance plans cover that.  Mine only covers the colonoscopy, and only at 50.  Yearly tests cost money and many doctors don't order them if there aren't any symptoms or a family history of colon cancer.

On 12/19/2021 at 6:38 PM, John Potts said:

I would so not want Sheldon to be involved in any crimes I was perpetrating, as he’d immediately draw attention to whatever we were doing. Not that I have ever done any crimes that I’m prepared to admit to in a public forum.

I'm with you on that.  Accomplices need to be silent and unobtrusive.

On 12/19/2021 at 6:38 PM, John Potts said:

Sheldon has to learn some fights aren't worth taking on.

I do wish he'd gotten more punishment for just this reason.  I'm sure the accountant cost a lot more the four dollars.