tvfanatic13 September 7, 2020 Share September 7, 2020 Shawn looks like he smells like a stale bathroom. I have no idea why I think that, but I do. 2 4 Link to comment
margaritanosalt September 7, 2020 Share September 7, 2020 i appreciated jessica’s dad offering a father/son relationship to maurice. i think maurice really wants (and needs) it, and i hope he doesn’t fuck it up. dad doesn’t seem like the type to give second chances! also, why is everyone jumping on quaylon over shavel buying him/bribing him with a truck? every indication is that he did not ask her to buy him a vehicle, and that he was just as shocked as everyone else. i like him - he seems to want to live life on the up and up, including keeping his word to his loved ones. i feel bad for him, being torn in two directions really sucks. heather is a piece of fucking WORK! dylan - blink twice if you need help! not that he’s all that innocent, writing her letters addressed to “mrs smith.” then again, what the hell else was he going to do with his time in prison? Link to comment
Auntie Anxiety September 7, 2020 Share September 7, 2020 Lindsey really has missed a branding and merchandising opportunity, but it still might not be too late. She should be doing makeup tutorials for prisoners (and all of the criminal wannabes out there) and she could develop a makeup line with product names like Breaking & Entering Eyeliner, Police Chase Mascara, eyeshadow palettes which include colors like Parole Pink, Assault & Battery Blue, Armed Robbery Red, Neck Tattoo Taupe, Jumpsuit Orange.....you get the picture. 1 14 5 Link to comment
Kangatush September 8, 2020 Share September 8, 2020 If Dylan put on 80 pounds in prison, he must have been like 40 pounds when he went in. 6 3 Link to comment
RealReality September 8, 2020 Share September 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Kangatush said: If Dylan put on 80 pounds in prison, he must have been like 40 pounds when he went in. Prison inmates always skip leg day so I look forward to seeing his chicken legs trying to run away from Heather. 11 2 Link to comment
Empress1 September 8, 2020 Share September 8, 2020 16 hours ago, Kangatush said: If Dylan put on 80 pounds in prison, he must have been like 40 pounds when he went in. She described him as “huge.” I was picturing The Rock or something! He may be muscular but he’s lean. 3 Link to comment
hookedontv September 9, 2020 Share September 9, 2020 I think Heather fell out of the minivan on her way to rehab on an episode of Intervention and landed on Love After Lockup. Boy oh boy, she is ROUGH. I know she's had a tough past that she's likely never dealt with but all I see are psychological issues paired up with some sort of addiction. Heather is just "too much" and "too special" in her own head. How is she driving a Cadillac? I think Dylan plays for both teams. And I think he'll be getting away from Heather as soon as he can. She's crazy. I just can't with these entitled bitches Lindsey and Destinie. Asking for unlimited money from these guys. And these stoooooopid guys who just give it to them. 1 12 Link to comment
mamadrama September 9, 2020 Share September 9, 2020 On 9/7/2020 at 11:51 AM, Auntie Anxiety said: Lindsey really has missed a branding and merchandising opportunity, but it still might not be too late. She should be doing makeup tutorials for prisoners (and all of the criminal wannabes out there) and she could develop a makeup line with product names like Breaking & Entering Eyeliner, Police Chase Mascara, eyeshadow palettes which include colors like Parole Pink, Assault & Battery Blue, Armed Robbery Red, Neck Tattoo Taupe, Jumpsuit Orange.....you get the picture. Making "prison recipes" is a common YouTube challenge. I bet Lindsey could have a successful YT channel if she did prison makeup tutorials. 3 Link to comment
RealReality September 9, 2020 Share September 9, 2020 2 hours ago, hookedontv said: I think Heather fell out of the minivan on her way to rehab on an episode of Intervention and landed on Love After Lockup. Boy oh boy, she is ROUGH. I know she's had a tough past that she's likely never dealt with but all I see are psychological issues paired up with some sort of addiction. Heather is just "too much" and "too special" in her own head. How is she driving a Cadillac? I think Dylan plays for both teams. And I think he'll be getting away from Heather as soon as he can. She's crazy. I just can't with these entitled bitches Lindsey and Destinie. Asking for unlimited money from these guys. And these stoooooopid guys who just give it to them. I wondered about the origins of the cadillac too. I thought that maybe she got some settlement from that "camp" or if her parents feel awful and just give her money. Or maybe her look is model marketable? But she just doesn't seem like the type I normally associate with a cadillac. She looks like she'd drive a nissan cube with Dylans picture screenwrapped on it. 11 1 Link to comment
PrincessPurrsALot September 9, 2020 Author Share September 9, 2020 I am trying to remember how many Chinese characters she had on her Dylan tattoo. I need to get a screen grab. I am convinced it says lady is a lunatic. 11 Link to comment
Enero September 10, 2020 Share September 10, 2020 On 9/6/2020 at 4:26 AM, RealReality said: He got a job, and again, given that a black engineer would have been such a rarity, he would have likely dealt with racism and a hostile work environment. Maybe he didn't, but nearly every older, educated black professional I've spoken to had to deal with shit in the workplace. His ability to keep that job or to keep that career seems like it would also involve patience, dedication, drive and focus. Delurking to say my sister got me watching this train wreck, but the commentary in these episode threads are way more interesting than the show. You guys have me LMAO and often agreeing with your comments. Regarding Tyrice’s “engineering” job, after seeing his place of residence I wonder if Engineering is nothing more than a supped up name for IT Specialist. At times an IT professional can carry the title of Systems Engineer and I’m wondering if that’s the case with Tyrice. If he is a true Engineer he’d be at least in the low-mid $100k+ and would surely be able to afford a place of residence that had a modern kitchen and furniture that was not equivalent to something you’d see in a hotel room from the 90s. And don’t even get me started on the leather couch with holes in it. Unless they were filming at a location that wasn’t his home. However, the ill fitting suit and the fact that he was trolling for a girlfriend on a prison pen pal site also gives me pause and makes me question how successful this guy truly is or isn’t. 1 10 Link to comment
RealReality September 10, 2020 Share September 10, 2020 8 hours ago, Enero said: Delurking to say my sister got me watching this train wreck, but the commentary in these episode threads are way more interesting than the show. You guys have me LMAO and often agreeing with your comments. Regarding Tyrice’s “engineering” job, after seeing his place of residence I wonder if Engineering is nothing more than a supped up name for IT Specialist. At times an IT professional can carry the title of Systems Engineer and I’m wondering if that’s the case with Tyrice. If he is a true Engineer he’d be at least in the low-mid $100k+ and would surely be able to afford a place of residence that had a modern kitchen and furniture that was not equivalent to something you’d see in a hotel room from the 90s. And don’t even get me started on the leather couch with holes in it. Unless they were filming at a location that wasn’t his home. However, the ill fitting suit and the fact that he was trolling for a girlfriend on a prison pen pal site also gives me pause and makes me question how successful this guy truly is or isn’t. Ha ha, welcome! I hope you contribute more! I understand your point about the "engineer" title, but I choose to believe in unicorns. LOL. His home didn't seem palatial at all,. But he was raising a few kids (I assume?) and reading between the lines there may not have been a woman in that house. In my experience, a lot of single men aren't as plugged into asthetics so...as long as the appliances are working they don't care if it was last used by carole brady. So, while I think it's totally reasonable to judge income by things like a house and fixtures...I don't know. He has an escalade or a navigator right? I think those are pretty pricey so he'd have to make enough to afford the payments in that. Now I'm wondering what kind of engineer tyrice is! 4 Link to comment
AZChristian September 10, 2020 Share September 10, 2020 11 hours ago, Enero said: However, the ill fitting suit . . . On his personal Facebook page, there is a picture of him in that suit dated May 2018. NO ONE has told him in two years that the label is still on the sleeve? I suspect he is a sanitation engineer. And his car payment (or monthly leasing fee) is probably bigger than his rent/mortgage payment. Also - he is selling a line of t-shirts now with things like "Do I look like I'm gonna let a m**********r use me?" and "I'm gonna tear up that a**" on the front. Keeping it classy. 6 5 Link to comment
sempervivum September 10, 2020 Share September 10, 2020 On 9/9/2020 at 8:53 AM, hookedontv said: How is she driving a Cadillac? 22 hours ago, RealReality said: But she just doesn't seem like the type I normally associate with a cadillac. 1) Anybody can rent a Cadillac, no? 2) The Caddy is Red's version of the limos that several of the dupes have rented for picking up their jailbirds. She's trying to impress Dylan and demonstrate her level of devotion. 4 Link to comment
RealReality September 10, 2020 Share September 10, 2020 6 hours ago, AZChristian said: On his personal Facebook page, there is a picture of him in that suit dated May 2018. NO ONE has told him in two years that the label is still on the sleeve? Also - he is selling a line of t-shirts now with things like "Do I look like I'm gonna let a m**********r use me?" and "I'm gonna tear up that a**" on the front. Keeping it classy. ugh. I hat when reality show people come out with tee-shirts. Its just so stupid. Who wants to wear a shirt with a saying from some z list celebrity? A lot of people DON'T watch the show and won't know what the hell your tee shirt is about....do you really want to have to explain this show and your tee shirt to a stranger? If you have to explain the show to someone, they won't even get the joke. I have seen this happen at least twice and I find it so ridiculous and arrogant. Yes, you're on a popular reality show, but you're not a Kardashian, and I don't even think they have a line of Hanes Beefy Tees with their sayings iron labelled on. 48 minutes ago, not you again said: Regarding speculation about Tyrice and what kind of engineer he might be - my mind went to train engineer. It's funny where our minds go; I wouldn't have thought IT engineer, and I've worked with them LOL. So many kinds of engineer! Railroad jobs (at least used to) pay very well. Being a railroad engineer sounds like an amazing job. I do not know the education requirements, but it sounds like fun. 3 Link to comment
RealReality September 10, 2020 Share September 10, 2020 4 hours ago, sempervivum said: 2) The Caddy is Red's version of the limos that several of the dupes have rented for picking up their jailbirds. She's trying to impress Dylan and demonstrate her level of devotion. Well then she should have gone with my idea of the Nissan Cube with Dylan's face screenwrapped all over it. I bet she carries a picture of him on her dashboard so he can focus on him while she is driving and not the pesky traffic. 2 1 Link to comment
bichonblitz September 10, 2020 Share September 10, 2020 What is Scott's deal? I thought he portrayed himself as some high powered exec with loads of cash. He had a year to fix up that house and it was still a complete filthy sty. Not that Lindsey deserved any better but still. Yuk. She did have me laughing when she was yelling about her 5x8 cell being cleaner than the house. Well, Linds, you can always go back! 7 Link to comment
Maybeitsme September 11, 2020 Share September 11, 2020 So this chick with the short red hair supposed model, something is wrong with her. You can't tell me she's not doing some type of drugs And I feel for her sad past, no joke but she is... Well I don't know but something is wrong And her con ain't all that, I know I know personal choice and all that 6 Link to comment
Maybeitsme September 11, 2020 Share September 11, 2020 Chandra just used her guy for some getting started money at the halfway house, and some food. she has no intention of being with ty Geez she was almost running bobing and weaving everytime he got near her 5 Link to comment
Pepper Mostly September 11, 2020 Share September 11, 2020 On 9/5/2020 at 7:21 AM, ErikaOnline said: Lindsay looks like everyone else. Nothing special about her looks and I guess her personality either. She looked like she wanted to hit Scott at one point. He is right she is ungrateful. He was taking care of her fucking kid and she acts like this smh. I once read in an English novel ("South Riding" by Winifred Holtby and I highly recommend it) a character described as having a "pretty, but common" face. That's Lindsey. She's the cutest waitress at the donut shop, the one who ended up getting pregnant in high school and had five kids by the time she was 25 and aged fast. Or, you know, the one who went to prison for selling drugs. On 9/6/2020 at 7:52 AM, Empress1 said: Another funny moment: when Shawn was looking at rings and his friend says something like “she doesn’t need platinum. Isn’t she more used to steel? Or iron?” The shade! Shawn's friend fancies himself quite the comedian. But I bet he tries to get with Destinee before long. He's kinda sleazy. On 9/6/2020 at 8:24 PM, tvfanatic13 said: Shawn looks like he smells like a stale bathroom. I have no idea why I think that, but I do. Shawn looks like the kind of guy who thinks it's not necessary to shower every day. I don't even want to speculate about how often he changes his sheets. If he has any. On 9/9/2020 at 9:53 AM, hookedontv said: I think Heather fell out of the minivan on her way to rehab on an episode of Intervention and landed on Love After Lockup. Boy oh boy, she is ROUGH. I know she's had a tough past that she's likely never dealt with but all I see are psychological issues paired up with some sort of addiction. Heather is just "too much" and "too special" in her own head. How is she driving a Cadillac? Her webcam business must be going well. 1 1 3 Link to comment
OoogleEyes September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 Lindsey "at this point" is the love of my life. Way to commit, Scott! 6 Link to comment
Keywestclubkid September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 You CAN cancel a bond.....The good news is that bail bonds can be canceled. If you begin to suspect that the accused is not going to comply with bail conditions, you should consider canceling the bond. When you cannot get in touch with the accused or you have reason to believe that they will not appear in court, cancel the bond. If you find out that either they have already committed a crime while out on bail or you suspect they might, cancel the bond. If you wait too long and your loved one or friend gets arrested, you may lose your financial stake. You should understand that a canceled bond means that the accused must go back to jail to await their court dates behind bars. Consider the effects carefully before you take action. Most people benefit from being out on bail because they are able to work better with an attorney to plan their defense. Just the same, don't hesitate to take action to initiate a bond cancellation if you feel the need. In some cases, it can take several days for the cancellation to be complete. You are not likely to be refunded the bail bonding fee when you cancel since the agent performed the work of having the accused released from jail. Any property or cash you pledged as collateral, however, will be returned once the accused is back behind bars or they appear for all subsequent hearings. Speak to a bail bondsman to learn more. 7 1 2 Link to comment
Pepper Mostly September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 @Keywestclubkid, you have taught me more than I ever expected to know about the bail bonding process! This is why I love Primetimer. Educational! 2 5 Link to comment
Keywestclubkid September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said: @Keywestclubkid, you have taught me more than I ever expected to know about the bail bonding process! This is why I love Primetimer. Educational! That was my whole question that I kept asking the tv to dipshit if she is saying she will do what she wants no matter what just revoke the bond then you don’t have to worry about being on the hook for 50k. The fact she thinks she can fuck other people but goes HAM on dude for talking to the mother of his children and freaking assaults him is beyond nuts. 1 7 Link to comment
Pepper Mostly September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 She knows her mark. She's a user and a con, so she is well prepared to take advantage of the first poor sap who'll take her shit. Plenty of other guys might have been willing to knock boots once she got out, but only dumb, doleful, naive, stupid Shawn thought they were in love and was prepared to open up his bank book--I mean heart. Its so blatantly obvious that she's using him. Except to him, poor fool. 7 Link to comment
Keywestclubkid September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said: She knows her mark. She's a user and a con, so she is well prepared to take advantage of the first poor sap who'll take her shit. Plenty of other guys might have been willing to knock boots once she got out, but only dumb, doleful, naive, stupid Shawn thought they were in love and was prepared to open up his bank book--I mean heart. Its so blatantly obvious that she's using him. Except to him, poor fool. The way she was acting and talking like rich men would just fall at her feet and give her an unlimited supply of funds whenever and wherever she wanted just didn’t match up to her potato body and butter face and sparkling personality lol ... Edited September 12, 2020 by Keywestclubkid 8 4 Link to comment
Pepper Mostly September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 Right? Points for her confidence, but.... 4 Link to comment
ChristmasJones September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 I can't remember any of the names... but the girl who punched the guy with six kids in the head, at the end of the episode .... would he be able to report her to the cops and get her arrested for that? If he stays with her after that he is even more pathetic than he already was. 11 Link to comment
RealReality September 13, 2020 Share September 13, 2020 13 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said: @Keywestclubkid, you have taught me more than I ever expected to know about the bail bonding process! This is why I love Primetimer. Educational! Totally agree. Thank you @Keywestclubkid 8 hours ago, ChristmasJones said: I can't remember any of the names... but the girl who punched the guy with six kids in the head, at the end of the episode .... would he be able to report her to the cops and get her arrested for that? If he stays with her after that he is even more pathetic than he already was. He is a total idiot for not cancelling her bond after that. 6 Link to comment
Hgirllooking September 14, 2020 Share September 14, 2020 I never noticed that Lindsey has a 5head until this episode. 3 3 Link to comment
hookedontv September 15, 2020 Share September 15, 2020 On 9/12/2020 at 9:58 PM, RealReality said: On 9/12/2020 at 8:55 AM, Pepper Mostly said: @Keywestclubkid, you have taught me more than I ever expected to know about the bail bonding process! This is why I love Primetimer. Educational! Totally agree. Thank you @Keywestclubkid On 9/12/2020 at 1:52 PM, ChristmasJones said: I can't remember any of the names... but the girl who punched the guy with six kids in the head, at the end of the episode .... would he be able to report her to the cops and get her arrested for that? If he stays with her after that he is even more pathetic than he already was. He is a total idiot for not cancelling her bond after that. I too must thank @Keywestclubkid for this information that I find fascinating yet I am hoping to never have to deal with bail bondsmen in any sort of situation. But now I am prepared! When Destinie beat the snot out of Shawn, I was screaming at the TV - Someone call the cops and press assault charges! Please excuse me while I get on my soap box for the umpteenth time but: These shows should have a zero tolerance policy towards violence. They should make it clear that as soon as someone lays hands on another, they are immediately removed from the show. I particularly hate the double standard that exists these days -- no one steps in to help Shawn who is getting assaulted. If the roles were reversed and Shawn was smacking Destinie, you better believe people would have stepped in and there would be an uproar in the media. Shawn, as stooopid and dull as he is, was the victim here. I don't know why I keep on saying this stuff. It's just seeing Nicole smack/push Azan, Angela pulling this crap with Michael (90D references my friends), Destinie smacking Shawn, Lacey shoving her latest Dick Appointment around -- DRIVES ME INSANE. (Hops down from soap box, pushes my hair out of my eyes and takes a deep breath - just walk away now.) 16 Link to comment
Keywestclubkid September 15, 2020 Share September 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, hookedontv said: I too must thank @Keywestclubkid for this information that I find fascinating yet I am hoping to never have to deal with bail bondsmen in any sort of situation. But now I am prepared! When Destinie beat the snot out of Shawn, I was screaming at the TV - Someone call the cops and press assault charges! Please excuse me while I get on my soap box for the umpteenth time but: These shows should have a zero tolerance policy towards violence. They should make it clear that as soon as someone lays hands on another, they are immediately removed from the show. I particularly hate the double standard that exists these days -- no one steps in to help Shawn who is getting assaulted. If the roles were reversed and Shawn was smacking Destinie, you better believe people would have stepped in and there would be an uproar in the media. Shawn, as stooopid and dull as he is, was the victim here. I don't know why I keep on saying this stuff. It's just seeing Nicole smack/push Azan, Angela pulling this crap with Michael (90D references my friends), Destinie smacking Shawn, Lacey shoving her latest Dick Appointment around -- DRIVES ME INSANE. (Hops down from soap box, pushes my hair out of my eyes and takes a deep breath - just walk away now.) I agree with this ... they don't do shit when its the woman being the aggressive one its total bullshit they should be removed and ejected from the show ... Dont throw hands .. I will give it to dipshit that he didn't try to hit back which is a good thing 7 Link to comment
PrincessPurrsALot September 15, 2020 Author Share September 15, 2020 I 100% agree that the gender of the aggressor should be irrelevant. The women on these shows think it is acceptable to hit men. It absolutely is not. Many shows used to have a zero tolerance policy for physical aggression. LAL finds it part of the drama. Destinie should have moved right back to her prison accommodations after attacking Shawn. 7 Link to comment
John M September 21, 2020 Share September 21, 2020 Just getting around to this episode so some stray thoughts... 1. If you are dealing drugs and the police catch you, you were not "set up", you were a drug dealer who got caught doing a crime. There is not "set up" if you admit to being a criminal. 2. Same for the restaurant bust, you knew what you were doing was wrong, you thought you were being super sneaky and getting away with something you weren't allowed to do. Yeah, I think the criminal justice system is over controlling and punitive in situations like this but you made to clear that you knew what you were doing was wrong, you just thought you were too smart to get caught on a technicality. Oops! Play stupid games win stupid prizes. 3. Oh, you jobless criminal didn't get Malibu Barbie's dream house? You just got a shitty castle? Player got played. Wealthy people that have their shit together do not troll prisons for girlfriends 8 Link to comment
AshleyLynn October 17, 2020 Share October 17, 2020 Lindsey is definitely using scott and is completely ungreatful, she thinks she is hotter and deserves more than she actually does, you could tell from the beginning that she was using scott and was disgusted by him and not into him at all, although not to be heartless but he should have seen it coming, and heather is definetly on something and if she isn’t she is very manic and my jaw dropped when she treated her 90 year old aunt with such disrespect! Destinee is using Shawn as well and is also as much of a brat and full of herself like Lindsey. 2 Link to comment
CloseThisAccount December 9, 2020 Share December 9, 2020 Here's what I'm imagining fueled Linsey's meltdown. She's in prison, looks ok. According to Chaundra she should be working five or six guys. So she's auditioning all these sugar daddies, which has been her way of getting by pre-prison. Scott is the one who promises the home of her dreams with a wonderful room for her daughter so she cuts the other prospects, all of whom she imagines are millionaires, loose, then comes home to Scott's dump. Then she can't even see her daughter except through glass -- like prison -- for 14 days. And even after that her kid can't stay there cos her room isn't ready. So Linsay imagined a dream manse with her daughter and the occasional gross act with flappy but she ended up with nothing but flappy. I think she's as mad at herself for not picking one of the other marks as she is at him; I'd meltdown, too. 3 Link to comment
heatherchandler December 9, 2020 Share December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, TakeAPinotGrigio said: Here's what I'm imagining fueled Linsey's meltdown. She's in prison, looks ok. According to Chaundra she should be working five or six guys. So she's auditioning all these sugar daddies, which has been her way of getting by pre-prison. Scott is the one who promises the home of her dreams with a wonderful room for her daughter so she cuts the other prospects, all of whom she imagines are millionaires, loose, then comes home to Scott's dump. Then she can't even see her daughter except through glass -- like prison -- for 14 days. And even after that her kid can't stay there cos her room isn't ready. So Linsay imagined a dream manse with her daughter and the occasional gross act with flappy but she ended up with nothing but flappy. I think she's as mad at herself for not picking one of the other marks as she is at him; I'd meltdown, too. I bet this is exactly what happened. And I imagine that if FLAPPY is the winner, there must have been some real losers in the mix. I am sure she thought he had a lot of money when she was whittling them down. 2 Link to comment
AZChristian December 9, 2020 Share December 9, 2020 24 minutes ago, heatherchandler said: I bet this is exactly what happened. And I imagine that if FLAPPY is the winner, there must have been some real losers in the mix. I am sure she thought he had a lot of money when she was whittling them down. Well, when he told the "interior decorator" that there were no budget limitations for her to re-do the house according to Lindsay's dreams . . . we have to figure that he was lying to Lindsey, too. Especially after we saw the house with NONE of the designer's recommendations implemented. 1 2 Link to comment
RealReality December 10, 2020 Share December 10, 2020 15 hours ago, TakeAPinotGrigio said: Here's what I'm imagining fueled Linsey's meltdown. She's in prison, looks ok. According to Chaundra she should be working five or six guys. So she's auditioning all these sugar daddies, which has been her way of getting by pre-prison. Scott is the one who promises the home of her dreams with a wonderful room for her daughter so she cuts the other prospects, all of whom she imagines are millionaires, loose, then comes home to Scott's dump. Then she can't even see her daughter except through glass -- like prison -- for 14 days. And even after that her kid can't stay there cos her room isn't ready. So Linsay imagined a dream manse with her daughter and the occasional gross act with flappy but she ended up with nothing but flappy. I think she's as mad at herself for not picking one of the other marks as she is at him; I'd meltdown, too. This is real talk. Lindsay may be a lying con artist, but so is Scott. I believe he promised her champagne wishes and caviar dreams and instead she got a beer and pretzel catnap. And not fancy beer either, like Natty Light. I don't think Lindsay is pretty, but I realize that there are guys out there, especially with the pictures who would think she is hot. And you are so right, they are all probably millionaires. But I think that if Lindsay had been better informed, she might have chosen a sucker who looked a little better and had a decent pension or something. 1 Link to comment
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