Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[SweePea59]

1 hour ago, Desperado said:

Phyllis seems a bit less over the top,

Just wait five minutes. And what were those big black splotches all over her dress? Did she change the oil in her car before she got there?

2 minutes ago, Waldo13 said:

I’m now more than ever I’m convinced that The Bold and The Beautiful follow parallel story lines.

Constantly. For years and years.

[NinjaPenguins]

Hey, it’s country club douche canoe Chet Montmorency Massengill VI, ready to cut loose and cut the cheese so he can blame the working class peon serving him breakfast. He cheats at golf, spouts “do you know who my father is” at least once per visit and owns a cyber truck because of overcompensation issues. The common phrase “if you give an inch, they’ll take a mile” helps him understand why people only take a few yards, if that. One day, he’ll inherit the family business and bankrupt it betting on wet T-shirt contests through an illicit VIP tier service on DraftKings. Chet - wait, that’s Kyle? Is he wearing that get up as an Audra repellent?

Lol@Phyllis not being inflicted on the other groups. Now I know DOO-mah is a classy host.

I’m sorry, but… has there ever been a meeting of corporate power players where anyone asked “Hey, where’s Abby Newman-Winters?” Also, does anybody think DOO-mah would give the slightest of fucks if Nick took his banana and went home?

Well, we all know that no character is allowed to get one over on Victor, so wtf is the point of casting Billy Flynn as a business hotshot? I hope his character has a different legal name, because I never want to hear DOO-mah again. He’ll probably be Tucker McCalled if he proves to be charismatic and popular.

[surfgirl]

46 minutes ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Chet Montmorency Massengill VI

You had me at ^this^!

[MollyB]

13 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Are there more than one train?  

Probably the sleeping cars were shunted off at arrival and parked on this vast mountainous estate Dum-fook has.  With a full terminal and turnabout. =riiiiight= Then the locomotive goes down to pick up another one.  (Major carbon footprint, btw - bet it's not an electric train) I agree with the rest of your post, Waldo.  I can't believe that Dum-foker's train cars are the elite special edition with full service bathrooms.  Is his 'chateau' so tiny he can't have guests?  Then why did he let all the plus-ones and invitation beggars get on board?  The only explanation I have for this stupidity is that when the cars go down with this load of boors, the whole train goes off the rails over a cliff into the sea.

Clothes Rant:  Y'all know I love my men in suits-Jack being #1.  So why the hell did they put him in that ill fitting, wrinkled mess with the black (Viktor Virility) shirt? The Jack I know and love would never show up for cocktails in such disarray.  Shame on you, costumers.

 

[One Tough Cookie]

15 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

as anyone else noticed that Manic Pathetic Phyllis🐍’s teeth glow in the dark 😜.  

She's her own nite light.

[Js Nana]

As of 1:01 PM EDT, I am guessing that AD is either Cane Ashby or Joe Clark - but the reveal has yet to happen, so only time will tell.

[Bunnyto4]

Womp womp. 
I was so hoping for Tucker McCall.

[Js Nana]

3 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

I am guessing that AD is either Cane Ashby or Joe Clark

So, Billy Flynn is the new Cane Ashby - is there an emoji for bummed?

[Js Nana]

6 minutes ago, Bunnyto4 said:

I was so hoping for Tucker McCall.

. . . and I was hoping for someone totally brand new who was going to blast TGVN back to the planet Uranus, where he would spend eternity seated on his red leather throne issuing commands to non-existent lackeys while his children, and grandchildren, work as baristas at Crimson Lights.

[lightninggirl]

26 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

So, Billy Flynn is the new Cane Ashby - is there an emoji for bummed?

God, what a letdown. Daniel Goddard is a babe, and this guy... newp. Definitely does not do it for me, but I'm happy for those he does do it for! Or something like that. 😂😉

[Desperado]

Call me disappointed. I had no use for the Cain character before, I have even less now. (I would’ve been incandescent with rage if I had watched 6 months of BS hearing “Doomaw” every 5 minutes though).

Of course Victor knew and I guess from the preview, Michael breaking up with him was a ploy?

And just like that, I’m back to finding Phyllis unbelievably annoying, @SweePea59 called it.

Some things (sadly), never change.

[surfgirl]

Canus Douchbagus: A special breed of dog that is a total asshole in every regard.

The only upside of this being Cane? That Daniel Goddard is probably shitting himself with angst right now! Remember his lame 'campaign to bring himself back'?!? 🤣

[Js Nana]

3 minutes ago, surfgirl said:

Remember his lame 'campaign to bring himself back'?!?

Looks like he's broadcasting his gratitude for the GH gig - is Prof. Henry Dalton destined to become a regular, or will his storyline be written out?

[Js Nana]

Did anyone else notice the difference in the closing credits for today's show?  The closing credits have always just listed the behind-the-scenes staff and crew, but todays was a rolling list of what looked like every actor on the show sans the behind-the-scenes staff and crew, which seemed very retrospective to me, like the return of Cane Ashby was signaling a new era for the show - or maybe that's just me thinking wishfully.

4 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Chet Montmorency Massengill VI

Who?

4 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

I hope his character has a different legal name

He does; Billy Flynn is the new Cane Ashby.

[ScoobieDoobs]

So this means we’re never gonna hear dat dumbass name ever again?  If so . . . YAY!

The casting of Billy Flynn as Cane?  He’s too young.  And him as a billionaire?  Not buying it, unless he inherited dough from someone.  👎👎👎👎

Pomp in swimwear?  FF please — and quick!!!

[Denize]

21 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Kyle's outfit today. So Preppy Handbook circa 1980.

I hadn't heard or thought about the Preppy Handbook since the 1980s but this is the second time I've heard about it in 2 days. I just finished reading Blood Will Out: The True Story of a Murder, a Mystery, and a Masquerade, a 2014 memoir by Walter Kirn about his encounters with 'Clark Rockefeller'. I've always wondered why Preppies wear loafers without socks - does the Preppy Handbook explain that enigma?

 

Edited Friday at 07:17 PM by Denize

[Js Nana]

1 hour ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Pomp in swimwear?  FF please — and quick!!!

Another reason to fast forward: "Oh, Pompy-poo, will you rub this super-duper sunscreen lotion on my back?" How can anyone on that show keep a straight face when Pomp acts like he knows what he's doing?

1 hour ago, Denize said:

I've always wondered why Preppies wear loafers without socks

Because they want any one nearby to have to hold their nose when they take off their loafers?

[pvandal]

I know ages mean nothing in soap opera land but am I really supposed to believe this Cane and Lily are parents of post college age kids? Are either of them 40 in real life? And is he not Australian anymore?

[Js Nana]

18 minutes ago, pvandal said:

Are either of them 40 in real life?

Billy Flynn is 40 and is playing a character who was born in 1973, which would make Cane Ashby 52 years old.

Christel Khalil is 38 and is playing a character who is supposed to be 37 years old - Lily Winters original birthdate on the show was June 26, 1995, but was later changed to June 26, 1988.

Charlie & Mattie Ashby original DoB 6/25/2010 changed to 6/25/2001 Age: 24

A 37-year-old woman having 24-year-old children would mean that she would have to have given birth to them when she was 13 years old. I'm guessing that there's going to be some switching around with dates-of-birth for one or more of these characters - either Cane's going to have some years deducted from his age and Lily's going to have some years added to her age or the kids are going to have some years deducted from their ages.

[babyhouseman]

46 minutes ago, pvandal said:

And is he not Australian anymore?

Maybe the superrich can change their country of origin and their age. Good plastic surgery.

Every time I hear Cane, I think of the cow mafia, the moofia, something someone here came up with.

Edited Friday at 09:33 PM by babyhouseman

[ScoobieDoobs]

So Vic was slumped over in a chair, looking half-dead (or mostly dead?) & smiling smugly, while Cane suggests he knew all along.  Did he?  Meh, I don’t believe it & even if he did, so what?  He certainly didn’t act like he did, cuz why would he waste his time being there at all if he knew this was some dumb fake out by Cane?  To see what Cane was up to?  Meh, not buying it.  Sounds like a bluff or shitty writing.

And sheesh, there’s The Red Beast trying a seduction act on Cane in the previews?  Ew, please, Show, don’t get too graphic on what she’ll offer Cane in her desperation for a job, any job, cuz it’ll really make me nauseous!

Wowza, Amanda continues to be cagey, cagey, cagey.  But her hair looked nice..

Wait, did I hear a mention of Chance in the previews?  Will he be there?  Alrighty then, I’ll watch next week, but prepared to do plenty FF’ing past The Red Beast scenes.  And Claire & Holden may be getting “friendlier”?  Oh yeah!

[MsMalin]

So Turniphead is Dumbass. Wasn't he a loser in the past?

[Js Nana]

4 minutes ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Will he be there?

I think I saw him hiding behind Michael, Lauren and Abby when they arrived - I re-ran my recording of the show, and, yep, that was Chance, wearing what we used to call when I was a kid a Hawaiian shirt in a black on white pattern.

4 minutes ago, MsMalin said:

Wasn't he a loser in the past?

but this is the new, improved younger turniphead.

41 minutes ago, babyhouseman said:

the cow mafia, the moofia, something someone here came up with.

OK, I gave your comment an LOL,babyhouseman, but that was just to go along with everyone else because I have no idea what "cow mafia" means.

[NinjaPenguins]

When you have the opportunity to play a gaslighting, cow-tipping dirtbag once portrayed by a liver-lipped creeper, you jump in with both feet. Grab that (br)ass ring, Billy Flynn!

I’m with ScoobieDoobs. Victor didn’t know sweet fuck all about Aristotle MOO-mah; he just recognized Cane and pretended to know all along. Surely Victor didn’t know the whole time because surely he’d say something to Lily, who he just respects sooooo much because of his friendship with Neil. Speaking of shit Newmans, Nikki came ttthhhiiiissss close to blaming Sharon for her two ordeals. Stay classy.

Please show, ease up on the Phyllis content. She’s acting like a whiny, impatient child and it’s wearing me out. Between her complete lack of boundaries and her grandiose delusions of success lies my remote with its seductive mute button.

I know I said I never wanted to hear the name Aristotle Dumas again, but there was, in fact, a name I wanted to hear even less and it’s, ugh, Cane Ashby. Like, does the esteemed head writer think we don’t remember what a putz he was. Oh, and that he was an Aussie putz? He was most certainly not a late blooming billionaire to be. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

What the heck was that mattress in Nikki and Victor's private sleeping car made of, straw? It sure didn't seem to be providing much support while Victor was sitting on it.

Wait, did we miss a scene? The episode just jumped right out with Dumas and Amanda and skipped an establishing moment. Whatever, Dumas looked to me like he had a head cold or he'd been crying a lot.

On another soap site they were comparing Carter to one of those robot Hosts from the Westworld TV series. I'm thinking they might be his cousins from the same manufacturing batch, ha ha.

AFAIC nuCane is a straight up whackadoodle. I was cracking up at the way he was acting with Lily. Dude, have you met Lily before? She is not here for your "international man of mystery" nonsense.

Then Lily had a panic attack too. Damian must've breathed in her general direction. 🙄

Re the previews for next week:  AW SHEE-YIT! CLAIRE AND HOLDEN ARE STILL HAPPENING, BABY! 

Edited Yest. at 06:00 AM by Joimiaroxeu

[Waldo13]

Please give me a fucking break!  A typical sleeping train car is absolutely nothing like the monkeys with a keyboard depicted.  A sleeping car is only 10’ wide with a 3’ passage way. That would leave 7’ for the sleeping area.  It looked much bigger than 7’. Why in the world why they chose a sleeping car instead a bedroom at the chateau?  

I get that Cane Ashby was recast but the recast is nothing like the Cane Ashby of old. Could the monkeys with a keyboard casted an actor with a slight Austrian accent and somewhat older.  As I said before, new Cane/Dumas looks younger than Nick🦍. 

 

Manic Pathetic Phyllis🐍 snaking her way through the maze is comical. She doesn’t need use the usual reptilian tongue to guide her way, she just follows the glow of her teeth.  Manic Pathetic Phyllis🐍’s the back of dress looks like her depends failed her.  On the same ilk as Lauren as she walked out of CL. 

[boes]

If Chance is showing up, I hope the reunion between him and his once upon a time daddy is touching.

Cane first showed up pretending to be Jill's son, Philip, until later he was exposed as the son of an Australian cattle rustler and all around moobster,  Wait till he sees his "son" is now the same age as himself!

[Joimiaroxeu]

On the clothing front today:

I liked Nikki's shiny top but thought her black grease pencil eye makeup was a bit much.

The fit of Amanda's suit was interesting, like it was made for someone with the physique of a professional wrestler. Her hair was fabulous though. 

Lily was showing plenty of cleavage. That could've gone either very well for  her or very badly given who she was about to meet. 👀

I'm with Diane: I would've spilled a drink on Audra too, if only to find out if she was wearing anything at all underneath the skintight dress. Maybe it's time for Audra to change up her look away from so much bodycon.

[Js Nana]

Carter's played by an actor named Vincent Stalba who is known for his disturbing on-screen presence in films and television - he's 37 and 6 feet tall and Y&R looks like his first soap.

[Snaporaz]

6 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

So this means we’re never gonna hear dat dumbass name ever again?  If so . . . YAY!

The casting of Billy Flynn as Cane?  He’s too young.  And him as a billionaire?  Not buying it, unless he inherited dough from someone.  👎👎👎👎

My guess is that Cane either kept some of Devon's money, or he made some lucrative investments before returning it.  Interesting that Amanda represented Colin (posing as Chance) in that con, making me think her return here is a bookend to that story.

New Cane isn't too bad to look at, so that's a plus on a show that doesn't have much of that. And as annoying as the hedge maze was, it was refreshing to see something besides Society/GCAC/Crimson Lights.  I was hoping Jack Nicholson would come staggering through with an axe. Redrum! REDRUM!  

[Sake614]

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Maybe it's time for Audra to change up her look away from so much bodycon.

If you’ve got it, flaunt it. And she most definitely has it. Unlike Phyllis, who needs to eat several chocolate cakes. I mean, I admire MSt’s ability to stay so slim at her age, but it wouldn’t do her any harm to gain a few pounds.

[boes]

3 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

New Cane isn't too bad to look at, so that's a plus on a show that doesn't have much of that.

Old Cane is now on General Hospital, playing a dirty old man.  He's a surprisingly good fit for the role, in every way.

As for New Cane's lack of an accent, perhaps that balances U.S.A. born and bred Victor Newman sounding like he's got a weinerschnitzel stuck in his throat every time he talks.

Oh!  At some point, I heard somebody, maybe Nick, say something about Victor "digging in his heels".  I had a vision of that literally happening......

and I know I'm not the only one willing to pay good money to see Victor, the supposed king of the world, give that a try.

[surfgirl]

I'm not sure which was the bigger let down:

1. Reliquary!

OR

2. Cane is Dumas

Edited Saturday at 07:51 AM by surfgirl

[Chatty Cake]

What a let down! Couldn’t they have just said that Cane was returning? Instead of what felt like months of Dumas this and Dumas that. 
Victor doing his best smug act was bullshit too. EB is clearly frail and having him act as the tough Victor Newman is not working. 

[NinjaPenguins]

They could have easily explained the actor’s frailty by having Victor survive the gunshot with some kind of permanent damage that slowed him down. It could have possibly led a story where Victor must come to terms with his physical limitations and realize how antiquated and pointless pretending to be He-Man is. Ha ha. I crack myself up.

And because I haven’t said it yet today: Fuck Cane Ashby. I am curious to know just what part of The Count of Monte Cristo this pretentious git thinks relates to his life.

[MollyB]

13 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

And as annoying as the hedge maze was, it was refreshing to see something besides Society/GCAC/Crimson Lights.  I was hoping Jack Nicholson would come staggering through with an axe. Redrum! REDRUM!  

We still had a bunch of people sitting around drinking, stuffing their faces and talking, talking, repeating, talking repeating in a set that gave me claustrophobia.

Hey, Snap, you have a new addition to the Clue game:  Jack Torrence in the Maze with an axe.

Edited Saturday at 03:30 PM by MollyB

[ByaNose]

Our national nightmare of Dumas is finally over. Good lord! That was a long storyline and it hasn’t even started yet. 

Didn’t like Billy Flynn’s shirt. It looked like he picked it up from the floor. It could use a good ironing but that’s the summer look I guess. 

Obviously, Y&R really didn’t like Daniel Goodard. He’s been begging to get back on the show for years and Y&R said Nah! We’re just gonna replace you with a slightly shorter non Aussie. 

Poor Abby. At least, she got a shout out. They mentioned Chance but I keep thinking he’s either already been written out or he didn’t resign. It’s a shame because Connor Floyd has great hair and scruff. Opportunity missed.

Finally, what’s the 411 on Amelia Heinle? I think I saw her once in the last few weeks. Is she on vacation or something? 

 

[slayer3]

Oh good grief Lily is such a drama queen. I wish Davetta Sherwood were still in the role, all this valley girl knows how to do is snap at people and perfect her snooty glare. It's like she's Nikki in training. Ugh why did you storm off if you didn't know the way? Moron.

 

On a positive note I like Amanda's suit, MM looks great, Phyllis is behaving really nutty but Amanda know how to handle her. Billy Flynn will always be a DiMera to me so any former DiMera would make an excellent foil to the man who currently can't even stand up straight. Anyone who annoys that irritating Newman clan is a friend of mine. Speaking of, can we kill one of the Newmans off? Why hasn't a regime change tried that? If you can kill of the great John Abbott you can sure as hell kill off Victor, Nikki, Nick or Victoria. The only one off limits is Abby IMO because she's an Abbott and I'm sick of Abbott children getting killed off.

 

ETA Yes I know EB has health issues and if he weren't such a dictator on and off screen I'd have sympathy but I can't stand inexcusably dominant Boomer men or the type of men who have "Victor always has to win" in their contract. How fragile is his self-esteem, it ruins the show, I'm sick of it and I'm sick of him. "He's always ten steps ahead?" he can't even walk ten steps! Goddamnit I'm sick of it and him.

Edited Saturday at 04:45 PM by slayer3

[slayer3]

23 hours ago, Js Nana said:

. . . and I was hoping for someone totally brand new who was going to blast TGVN back to the planet Uranus, where he would spend eternity seated on his red leather throne issuing commands to non-existent lackeys while his children, and grandchildren, work as baristas at Crimson Lights.

This is my dream, f*cking hell I hate this man and his sh*tty little family too.

On another note I never noticed CK was pregnant I only discovered it reading the boards. I really miss Davetta.

Edited Saturday at 04:48 PM by slayer3

[SweePea59]

33 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

Finally, what’s the 411 on Amelia Heinle? I think I saw her once in the last few weeks. Is she on vacation or something? 

Just be grateful and let sleeping dogs lie.

I could not believe that Lily did not recognize Cane's voice. She hears him before she see him and just did not recognize the voice of her ex who she spent years with? Not even possible. Unless it's because he done lost his accent. Cane's being Australian is written into the show. Story lines revolved around that fact. So Billy Flynn takes a job as an Australian and can't be bothered to do an accent? Is it too hard for him? Some actor, sheesh. I already hate him as much as I hate Cane. I hate when people are well paid to do a job and do it badly. And how about how he just stood there, stiff as a board, not a trace of emotion on his face while Lily lit into him. Another epic fail in your first week, Billy Flynn. Try acting like a human. Or is that too hard for him, too? Well, at least he'll be written out in six months like the others before him. I just hope he takes Fake Amy and the alien symbiont on her head with him.

And why is Carter acting like he hates everyone? I guess it's because he works for a lying two-faced 10,000-backstoried moofia bastard. That would put anyone in a bad mood.

So where's Sam?

[boes]

2 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Fuck Cane Ashby. I am curious to know just what part of The Count of Monte Cristo this pretentious git thinks relates to his life.

Exactly.  If Cane needed to choose a book on which to base his new life, then it should have been "Everyone Poops".  

But then, everyone would have known who he really was.

[Joimiaroxeu]

2 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

Fake Amy and the alien symbiont on her head

Hah! Now I'm imagining Amy's wig jumping off her head and scurrying away like that chestburster did in Alien.

2 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

I could not believe that Lily did not recognize Cane's voice. She hears him before she see him and just did not recognize the voice of her ex who she spent years with? Not even possible. Unless it's because he done lost his accent. Cane's being Australian is written into the show. Story lines revolved around that fact. So Billy Flynn takes a job as an Australian and can't be bothered to do an accent? Is it too hard for him? Some actor, sheesh.

I'm giving him a bit of grace until we see more of him. Maybe nuCane will have an explanation as to why he no longer has the Aussie accent. Whatevs, it's been my impression that it's a lot easier for Australians to drop their accent for acting roles than it is for non-Australians to pretend to have one.

Edited Saturday at 07:01 PM by Joimiaroxeu

[Joimiaroxeu]

17 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

My guess is that Cane either kept some of Devon's money, or he made some lucrative investments before returning it.

Since JG loves jumping on bandwagons, I'm guessing nuCane has his own bitcoin and he cashed it out while it was still at peak value.

[LadyWave]

I don't care if Billy Flynn is playing the spawn of Satan. He's looking mighty fine and will be the sole reason I don't fast forward through the whole show anymore. I liked his steely demeanor with Lily. It's a breath of fresh air compared to the whispering lech that was Daniel Goddard's Cane. 

[surfgirl]

Meh, I don't find this Billy Flynn guy attractive in any way, shape, or form, but hey, clearly it's just me.

I agree with whomever said up thread that this Virile TGVN act is not only tedious, but also ridiculous since all he seems to do is sit around mumbling threats while scrolling on his phone. My take: He has his lines sent to his phone but he can't read them without glasses so...yanno...not very helpful. Also, I can't get too empathetic about EB and his age/health challenges, etc. because he says in every interview since Beelzabub's time until now, that he will literally 'never leave' Y&R. So he is committed to declining on TV. It's such a weird way to go IMO, but clearly we viewers have no say in the matter so I wish TPTB would just greatly limit his screen time while bringing up new top dogs for the show. Jack used to be a foe but over the past few years we have witnessed The Pussification of Jaggabbit so he's not really a top dog anymore, sadly.

In summation, Show blows.

[SweePea59]

27 minutes ago, surfgirl said:

Meh, I don't find this Billy Flynn guy attractive in any way, shape, or form, but hey, clearly it's just me.

Not just you.

28 minutes ago, surfgirl said:

Also, I can't get too empathetic about EB and his age/health challenges, etc. because he says in every interview since Beelzabub's time until now, that he will literally 'never leave' Y&R. So he is committed to declining on TV. It's such a weird way to go IMO,

I know. I would expect that EB would want Victor to go out in an epic blaze of glory, with the kind of story that people talk about for years. Instead, there's an elephant in the room, a declining old man who everyone is pretending is not on his last leg, who can barely move or deliver lines of any importance or consequence to the story. It's sort of like, whatever thing he says they just roll with it and the other characters explain what is going on. It's weird and sad.

[Js Nana]

3 hours ago, slayer3 said:

I never noticed CK was pregnant I only discovered it reading the boards.

I think you mean CG (Camryn Grimes), because she is pregnant, again, but CK (Christel Khalil) isn't.

[surfgirl]

Also, can someone who has nit ourged this from their memory banks, please tell me why My Pretty Pony and CaneMah broke up for good? I seem to remember some scene on the front porch of thst condo they lived in, crying was involved, but I think I must've blacked out .

[Snaporaz]

3 minutes ago, surfgirl said:

Also, can someone who has nit ourged this from their memory banks, please tell me why My Pretty Pony and CaneMah broke up for good? I seem to remember some scene on the front porch of thst condo they lived in, crying was involved, but I think I must've blacked out .

While Lily was in prison, Billy saw Cane and Victoria kissing.  Billy took the express train to the prison to tattle, and that was the final nail in the coffin of the Lane marriage.  

[Js Nana]

23 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

I think you mean CG (Camryn Grimes), because she is pregnant, again

CORRECTION: After an extensive search of online sources, I have determined that neither CK nor CG are pregnant at this time, although I did think that CG was looking a bit plump and that a pregnancy leave for the actress would explain Mariah being off-screen for a while.