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Jack knows Victor is coming after the Abbotts and Jabot--again--yet he thinks it's a great time for Diane and him to take a belated honeymoon. This is my I can't face.

Sure, Michael, you'll dump Victor until he needs your help fighting off Aristotle Dumas. AFAIC Lauren was 100% right to be skeptical.

40 minutes ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Good move!  I’m jelly cuz at least you were near the toilet.  I needed the toilet and/or a vomit bucket after watching Vic & Nikki (uh, Mr, & Mrs. Satan) fondly (ick!) reminisce about the start of their true wuv.  Yuck, still nauseous from watching that.

OMG, so many references to barfing by the Preverts today! Um, has anyone heard of sympathetic vomiting? It's a thing. Give us a break, JG.

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There is nothing wrong with romance among the older crowd. However, there is nothing romantic about bickering over your husband’s loyalty to a misanthropic shitlord, obsessing over your granddaughter’s infatuation with a box of hair or being all up in your feels over a half assed home remodel. What was even the point of any of this? An hour long guided tour of Billy’s nostrils would be more fulfilling. 

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Some of us might remember those Love in the Afternoon promos back in the 80s. That's all I could think about today.  I'd post a link but I don't know how (I'm that old). The ONLY moment that might move the story ahead today was Michael's telling Lauren he's done with Victor.

Victor autocorrected to Victor!  Still won't let me use the G word for Victor!

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2 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

a half assed home remodel.

Every time someone walks from the brightly lit foyer of Abbott mansion into the Aubergine drenched walls of the living room, it looks to me like they're walking into a cave.

. . . and speaking about the Abbotts, is it my imagination, or does Diane rarely, if ever, respond with an "I love you, too" whenever Jack tells her he loves her?

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3 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

Is today some special milestone episode or something?

I think this episode, with Y&Rs three long-term couples, Victor/Nikki, Jack/Diane and Michael/Lauren, assessing their relationships, is some kind of set-up for the "Aristotle Dumas reveals himself to the denizens of Genoa City" story arc that is to come - maybe as soon as next week - will he be a surprise non-invitee at Nikki's birthday bash?

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Just wondering if the introduction of the Aristotle Dumas character into the life of Genoa City represents a major change in direction for Y&R - when I started watching soaps, back at the dawn of time, elderly main characters would be retired to cameo appearances so as not to overtax the actors playing them and to bring fresh blood into the storylines, is that what's going to happen with Y&R - will Aristotle Dumas take the place of Victor Newman as a main character?

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5 hours ago, One Tough Cookie said:

I am just wondering if the producers are going to torture us with geriatric sex scenes. 

As someone who is geriatric, I couldn't agree more - close your eyes and remember what you looked like 50 years ago, when Y&R was a brand-new half-hour soap and some of its present-day actors were heading into puberty.

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Will someone handstamp "Real Abbott" on Diane's wrist and we can be done with all that?

Can someone put one of those electric shock collars on Michael so Lauren can zap him when and if he backslides to Victor?

Can someone, anyone, bury Victor alive?  Under ground or under a pile of brussels sprouts, your choice but just DO it.

 

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5 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Someone over on reddit posted this fake ad they made from an Ai app:

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I'd buy some of it just to help make Kyle lose his sh!t.

Or his hair. (the ratings for this would be off the charts)

Could Alexander Dumas be Michael? Js Nana speculated that the Alexander Dumas character may have been brought in to eventually replace Victor as a leading character; which could be true. But "Alexander" does not roll off the tongue as easily as Victor. 

 

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16 hours ago, Foghorn Leghorn said:

wondering if Aunt Mamie is Alexander Dumas

Only if Veronica Redd has been replaced by Billy Flynn (played Chad DiMera on DOOL) in playing Mamie Johnson.

2 hours ago, Kemper said:

"Alexander" does not roll off the tongue as easily as Victor.

I can't imagine that "Aristotle" would do any better, but what if "Aristotle Dumas" is just an alias and AD turns out to be someone from Victor's past.

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3 hours ago, Kemper said:

Could Alexander Dumas be Michael?

Could be but it'd be turning Y&R into a horror series. Michael would have been dead for over 150 years. Yeah, let's bring back Passions. New on CBS!

8 hours ago, boes said:

Can someone put one of those electric shock collars on Michael so Lauren can zap him when and if he backslides to Victor?

Hmm, an electric shock collar on a zombie. How would that work? Maybe I need to start watching Walking Dead again. Jeffrey Dean Morgan is hot AF. Zaddy vibes all day. 

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9 hours ago, boes said:

Can someone, anyone, bury Victor alive?  Under ground or under a pile of brussels sprouts, your choice but just DO it.

What is dead can never die. I think that was said about Cthulu but it also applies to Victor.

My mother and I watch the afternoon soaps together. We are currently skipping B&B, which is vile, and yesterday my mom asked if we could just skip the last three quarters of Y&R and head straight for the Gates. My mother typically takes what the soaps give her without complaint but yesterday broke her, I think. She never skips Y&R. Even the most loyal of viewers will eventually peace out when the show is just a monotonous patchwork of stories that go in circles, repeat conversations and days upon days of people yammering at various restaurants without advancing any plot an inch.

JG is wasting our time and insulting our intelligence. The least he could do is aspire to mediocre. That would be an improvement.

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I feel like everybody on this show is so shady…. between the guilty looks and the nonsense they spew….. It is hard to enjoy or get engaged in any of these characters….

Nate is suspicious by nature so how on earth can he be taken in by Audra no matter how many times he asks her for the truth ?

Lilly won’t give a straight answer to Damien and then there is Kyle with all of the nonsense that he’s giving to Claire.

…. then there is Miss Shady herself, Amanda, who speaks in circles and says nothing !

….and these were just the people that were on today….. don’t get me started on the rest of the characters !

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Hey, it's Abby.

Yay, Amanda got her hair did. 🥳

Okay, Damian, those ill-fitting stonewashed jeans were bad enough but your manspreading was like rancid icing on a rotten cinnamon roll. Stop it.

Dang, Claire was still coming at Audra hard. Interesting how Claire knows Victor is financing whatever Audra's up to wrt Kyle but she considers Audra the bigger problem.

4 hours ago, lgprimes said:

Is anybody out there rooting for Kyle and Claire?

Hah! Apparently TPTB are. I wish they'd stop screwing with the audience and let Claire get with Holden. Kyle would be old news and it would take care of two annoyances for Audra.

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Lily, Damian is working you! Theorizing about Aristotle Dumas with him just plays into Damian's hands. Geez, buy a clue.

Ha ha, Abby. What happens when you fail to mind your own business: you get read like one of Dominic's pre-school primers. Amanda has told you 47 times she's not here for you or Devon. Simmer down.

Or what, Devon? You can't force Dumas to meet with you by pressuring Amanda. FOH with your blustering.

2 hours ago, SiouxB said:

then there is Miss Shady herself, Amanda, who speaks in circles and says nothing !

Amanda's like a cat who plays with a bug before stomping and eating it. Most of these GC fools are easy prey for someone who's trained to out-talk all challengers.

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Damian told Lily he's worried about his pal Holden becoming collateral damage in whatever Dumas is up to. It doesn't seem to me Holden is the one who's needed protection.

Funny how Audra, Claire, Nate, and Kyle were seated only a few feet from each other in Society but they couldn't hear each other's conversations. Society has been proven to have notoriously bad acoustics. Hmm. 🤔

1 hour ago, lilmarysunshine said:

The only stories they come up with are “business intrigue” ones.

I dunno, Diane remodeling the Abbott manse wasn't a corporate intrigue. The Jordan and Ian sagas weren't corporate intrigues. Ashley and Traci vs. Martin/Alan wasn't a corporate intrigue either. But those storylines got run into the ground too.

It seems to me--especially since the writers strike--the aim now is to have a couple of umbrella plots that can involve one or more of the main GC family groups for multiple months. What's oddly annoying is how the writers use the same basic dialogue over and over. Do they think we all have bad memories or something?

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I read the comments re Y&R on Facebook (I am old, so Facebook is a wonder toy) from people who have watched for years, decades. Most can usually find some positive thing to say. But not lately. They are just as bored and crabby about Show as most of us here. But it would seem that no one from the network listens. Every day is Groundhog Day. 

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Dear Abby  (haha, see what I did there?),

Don't flatter yourself or your unattractively scowling husband. Amanda is happy to have dodged that Devon bullet. Why are you attacking her when you were caught humping on the couch? 

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General Hospital has been on fire for the last 2 weeks. Today was incredible.  They leave Y and R in the dust.

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1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I wish they'd stop screwing with the audience and let Claire get with Holden.

For real! 
There is some actual chemistry between those two. And I realized that when Claire isn’t being written as sickly sweet the actress seems much more interesting. 
I don’t know what the fix is for Kyle. I just want to punch that face every time I see it. Most annoying character in the show for me (Victor is my most disliked, but annoying isn’t the right term for him).

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Anyone notice how Audra makes fish faces (sucking in her cheeks) & eye rolls when she’s lying her head off?  Ya couldn’t be anymore obvi when you were talikn’ to both Natey & Pomp, Audra!  Except Pomp is a smug, smirky moron & Natey is not.  And neither is Claire.  She (and Natey) could tell right off that Audra was acting mighty cagey & shifty . . .

And ya know who else was mighty cagey & shifty?  Amanda — big time!  And with a giant hostile chip on her that outweighed Devon’s always present hostile, angry chip!  Unpleasant shit to watch.  So Show, how long are ya gonna drag out when the intro of Doo-mah will be?  Meh, really not especially interested if it ain’t Tuck.

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41 minutes ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Anyone notice how Audra makes fish faces (sucking in her cheeks) & eye rolls when she’s lying her head off?

With that obvious a "tell," she should never play poker.

42 minutes ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

, really not especially interested if it ain’t Tuck.

Unless they replaced Trevor St. John with Billy Flynn (played Chad DiMera on DOOL), it ain't Tuck. 

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2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I dunno, Diane remodeling the Abbott manse wasn't a corporate intrigue. The Jordan and Ian sagas weren't corporate intrigues. Ashley and Traci vs. Martin/Alan wasn't a corporate intrigue either. But those storylines got run into the ground too.

It seems to me--especially since the writers strike--the aim now is to have a couple of umbrella plots that can involve one or more of the main GC family groups for multiple months. What's oddly annoying is how the writers use the same basic dialogue over and over. Do they think we all have bad memories or something?

I guess my problem is basically I think they are all boring. I did not care at all about the whole Ian and Jordan saga. I didn’t care that Phyllis and Sharon were kidnapped. I cannot remember the last Y&R storyline I found compelling. Probably Sally losing her baby. But that has been it for the last few years. (And even that they screwed up by making Adam make the call that would not be made so she could blame him.) 

I think my time watching this show is coming to an end. 

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Wasn’t Audra assignment to lure Kyle away from Claire/Eve?  There doesn’t seem to be any movement on that subject and completely opposite to that ends but Audra got her funding. Curious. 

Audra’s company is basically a start up. She would have to go a long long way to even complete with Jabot. The same goes for Billy👃for him to compete with NM.

Paranoia is the theme of the day in GC. Everyone is questioning everyone else’s motives. 

Why is Audra Amanda even fielding questions from Devon and Abby and even listening to his demand to meet with Aristotle. Just shut him down and tell him to hit the road.  Besides, who the F does Devon think he is to demand a meeting with Aristotle. 

I vote for Tucker being Aristotle since he shows great respect for Neil who took care of his son. 

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31 minutes ago, Waldo13 said:

I vote for Tucker being Aristotle since he shows great respect for Neil who took care of his son. 

TPTB certainly seemed to be hinting at that today.  Devon and Lily asking Amanda why Dumas is interested in protecting their company.  Of course, if it's Tucker, he wants to protect his son's company.

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22 hours ago, Js Nana said:

Every time someone walks from the brightly lit foyer of Abbott mansion into the Aubergine drenched walls of the living room, it looks to me like they're walking into a cave.

. . . and speaking about the Abbotts, is it my imagination, or does Diane rarely, if ever, respond with an "I love you, too" whenever Jack tells her he loves her?

And when they walk into the dung brown diningroom, it is like walking into a funeral parlour.  I noticed that the liquor is in there now - are they trying to cut back on their drinking by having to take 10 more steps to refill their glasses?

I too noticed that when Jack said "I love you", Diane just smiled the first time and said something like "back at you" the second time.  Why not a simple "I know", like Han Solo?

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Idk, I'm sensing a buyer's remorse vibe from Claire about Pomp.  She is clearly not liking the way he's interacting with Audra.  I thought Claire was making just-smelled-poop faces in response to his bullshit/blather about why he's acting so fucking weird with Audra.

Run, Claire, run!   Holden will be easy to find, hun!  He'll surely be at one of the 3(?) bars we always see, sipping a cocktail & waiting to stalk Audra.

Sheesh, the scenes with Lils & Damian are a sure cure for insomnia -- zzzzzzz.

I don't remember Amanda being this snippy & nasty.  We're already stuck with The Red Beast, does Show really feel the need to bring on another unpleasant-to-watch character?  Yuck.

Devon, your angry/hostile routine is really tiresome -- where do you get off giving orders?  Abby may be turned on by this shit, but to the rest of us, you're still an annoying little creep.

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For the last month, Show has been as boring as watching paint dry. Wait, that is such an old saying. Let me try again. It's been as boring as watching:

A snail walk across the US

Grass grow during a drought

10 gallons of water come to a boil on low heat

Someone counting grains of sand on the beach

The writers of Y&R trying to come up with new ideas

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I see what the writers are doing. Make one day so deadly dull that the next episode seems almost watchable. That little gambit will always fail when Aristotle DOO-mah is mentioned 19 times.

I’m Team Amanda all the way. She is Dumbass’ lawyer and can only say so much. Lily and Devon and Nate and Abby came off as really paranoid to me, looking for hidden meanings and deeper layers that just don’t exist. I know they don’t understand what show they’re on, but there is no depth here, no underlying anything. Also, to quote a better soap, Abby should choose silence next time. How crass to roll up on the victim of your shit behavior with such hostility and entitlement. Repulsive Newman behavior for sure.

Putting the words “star-crossed lovers” in Audra’s mouth doesn’t make it so, show. Kyle and Claire aren’t in a relationship; they’re in a pointless campaign to get a reaction out of Victor. I hate soap couples where one of them prattles on and on about how the other made them a better person. Kyle, you’re not really a better person if you haven’t changed because it’s the right thing to do. You’re just on a temporary break from your jackass personality while seeing Claire.

Nate is about to logic himself into the truth about Audra’s plan. Seriously, by talking out loud in a restaurant, the dots are being connected. Damn, that’s exciting. 

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I agree with everyone who says this show is boring.  I come from a family that likes to sit around and talk/gossip about everyone and anything but the repeated conversations in this soap make my family look like mutes.  Why do they give a rat's potato chip about any of this sh!te? Most romances wear thin after six months and Claire really looks as if she's having second thoughts-and kinda taking control of the menfolk (Viktor and Kyle). Why care about how grown people who do not live in it feel about a much-needed redecorating job on a house? And if A. Doofuss can not show his face or even have his minions explain him-WHO CARES? I haven't watched a show clear through in about four weeks.  I've been in Seattle and then I'm battling bronchitis and the only good thing is when I try to watch I get the much needed sleep my doctor recommends.

A few questions:

  • Did Sally actually say "we should go to the office" at one of their interminable feedings at the GCAC?  There's an office?
  • So did Cole go to Urgent Care and then hole up in the GCAC? Housekeeping must be thrilled.  (Bet he has bronchitis. #beentheredonethat)
  • Why did Michael have to buy out the Jazz Lounge?  No GC denizens frequent any of the eateries/drinkeries of GC since each became a venue for the Legacy Families to argue and air their dirty secrets.
  • Why did Viktor give Audra her money?  Did I miss where she screwed the Pomp and posted it on SM?
  • What's Michael going to do now that he's no longer in the thrall of Viktor?  Is the DA's office still open?
  • How is Damian qualified for any position if all he has done is be a frontman for (and also pretending to own companies of) A. Dumbass? Oh, and overseeing some tenants in his buildings.
  • What was that creepy scene with Viktor putting the locket on Nikki?  How hard is it to attach two magnets?
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Would luv it if Ash comes back, plops herself down on the fugly pink sofa & screeches at Diane — WTF is up with this ugly shit & WTF did you do to this house, bitch?  New alter for Ash?  Nah, this is the new (& maybe not-so-improved?) Ash . . .

Oh Mikey, you silly thing, don’t ya know ya can never leave the Mob or the Godfather or Vic?

So wait, Jackie & Diane are leaving Pomp home alone?  Ruh-oh!  They’re leaving the big moron to run things at Jabot?  Ruh-oh!  Guess now’s the time for Audra to make her move.  Better keep Natey distracted with lots of sex & tighty-tight dresses, Audra — just quit making those fish faces, sweetie, cuz that shit is a sure giveaway you’re up to somethn’ shady, hun!

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