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51 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Don't threaten me with a good time.

I don't know if a parade of Port Chuckers crying at Carly's bedside and reminding her how strongbravebeautiful she is and begging her to live because PC is so much better with her in it is a good time.

It's more like strap a bag of rocks to your back and jump off a bridge type of good time.

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The stupidity of all things legal on this show is really ruining it for me. The sheer laziness of ignoring a 2 minute Google search - the implied condescension that none of us are smart enough to even notice burns. 

There's a good chance that Martin's fee hasn't even cleared the bank yet. Sonny's been in the house days, not months. Alimony is mainly monitored at the federal level by the IRS and would include garnishments and processes like that long before prosecution.  Now child support in arrears  might eventually lead to some sort of inter-state prosecution but the writers have never mentioned any kids for Martin. Ugh. I feel like I lose brain cells watching this show. (Note: I am not a lawyer but this was just me googling on a commercial break. I really hate them some days.)

Otoh, at least BLQ was smart enough to realize her anger at Lois and Gloria made her a hypocrite for not telling Chase that Dante was the guy. 

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I can't quite say they're growing on me, but I actually watched all of the Trina/Kai scenes today.  I do think TA has done a great job all along at portraying a young woman in grief.  

Don't know what to think about Martin except that it's going to take all of JE's and MW's skills to sell me on a relationship with Tracy. Guess it's good they have the chops. I will expect to eat my words.

Glad Brook Lynn told Chase, and I'm looking forward to the fallout among them, Dante, Lulu and, eventually, Gio.  Hope we get to that particular revelation soon.

I truly doubt that the writers have thought this polonium idea all the way through.

Valentin. I'm one of the people who have never warmed to him, and that was even before he contributed to the ruination of Anna. He's got enough convoluted connections with so many other characters that I suppose it made sense to bring him back.  Just hope he leaves Anna alone.

 

 

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I both laughed my head off and rolled my eyes at Not!Brennan throwing his weight around the hospital. Especially him ordering Willow that she couldn’t notify Cujo’s next of kin.

So, since Sasha is having Jaysus’ “baby” she can sit with people who are technically I guess, her employers? I don’t ever recall any of the Cooks doing the same.

As idiotic, insulting, not to mention unbelievable Marty’s arrest was-No tears from me. You lie with dogs, you get fleas.

And for all that is HOLY, Tracy did NOT assault that surveyor! She knocked his thingamajig out of his hands!

Watching the documentaries on Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy was more interesting than the last few episodes of this show.

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6 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

So, since Sasha is having Jaysus’ “baby” she can sit with people who are technically I guess, her employers? I don’t ever recall any of the Cooks doing the same.

She was doing this before anyone knew she was knocked up. I remember a scene in the Q kitchen after the nanny cam footage was shown where she was gossiping with Brook Lynn and Chase over desserts. 

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5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I understand why Trina doesn't want to give Esmé any benefit of the doubt, but her upbringing was as chaotic in its own way as Spencer's. And it's not as if Nik reluctantly slept with Esmé.

 

She also conveniently left out the fact that Esme ended up pregnant, kidnapped and had amnesia for almost a year thanks to Nikolas. Or the fact that Spencer just assisted Nikolas who was on the run from the law in kidnapping Ace. When Kai asked Trina what Esme wanted when she followed Spencer and Trina to Paris, the correct answer was that she wanted her son and she would have killed Trina if Spencer wouldn't have gotten Nikolas to give Ace back to Esme.

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Sonny's guards are where? 

Is living in that fishbowl of a house safe?

There's an old Columbo episode (Murder of a Rock Star) where Columbo finds a champagne cork in the kitchen and finds it unusual for champagne to be opened without both parties present -- it's the popping of the cork that's part of the romantic experience.  Then there's GH, with Carly opening and guzzling poisoned champagne alone.   At least she managed to get poisoned when Isaiah and Willow, GH's only employees, were working.

 

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On 3/12/2025 at 4:05 AM, absnow54 said:

With Charlotte’s scenes yesterday, they really should have saved the WSB recruitment story for her. She’s developed skills from years of living on the run and she has built in conflict with Anna and Brennan. Obviously they’d have to wait a few more years, but the drama and stakes would be so much higher. 

But she’s not a Carly……..

1 hour ago, ciarra said:

Sonny's guards are where? 

Is living in that fishbowl of a house safe?

There's an old Columbo episode (Murder of a Rock Star) where Columbo finds a champagne cork in the kitchen and finds it unusual for champagne to be opened without both parties present -- it's the popping of the cork that's part of the romantic experience.  Then there's GH, with Carly opening and guzzling poisoned champagne alone.   At least she managed to get poisoned when Isaiah and Willow, GH's only employees, were working.

 

Am I the only one who screamed “Die Carly!  Die!” At the TV when she started choking?

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I know we are having issues with hospitals and such in real life but GH is vastly understaffed. Willow is working the ER and the nurses station at the same time. Jessie would have been bored to death by this inactivity. 

nuBrennan yelling at everybody (2 people) was a little OTT but he’s in wove with Carly so I understand. LOL!!!

I kind of liked the ending with Valentin finding his Will Courtland passport and Sonny lurking in the dark with fun in hand. I think I might have my money on Valentin because Sonny will probably have another ill timed heart attack. Buh-bye Sonny. I got to go. LOL!!!!

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So…. Did anyone else notice that Federal Marshals have absolutely nothing to do with delinquent alimony payments?  And why would Martin need to disclose funds from the sale of a client’s home?  And why would Martin receive those funds as income?  And even if any of the other bullshit details were true, under what system would he be required to disclose said funds less than a month after the sale closed?  
 

Are the writers even trying anymore?  This makes me want to go to a fan convention so I can dress these people down in person.

3 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

I know we are having issues with hospitals and such in real life but GH is vastly understaffed. Willow is working the ER and the nurses station at the same time. Jessie would have been bored to death by this inactivity. 

nuBrennan yelling at everybody (2 people) was a little OTT but he’s in wove with Carly so I understand. LOL!!!

I kind of liked the ending with Valentin finding his Will Courtland passport and Sonny lurking in the dark with fun in hand. I think I might have my money on Valentin because Sonny will probably have another ill timed heart attack. Buh-bye Sonny. I got to go. LOL!!!!

But does Brennan love with his WHOLE HEART, like Carly?

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14 hours ago, JMO said:

I truly doubt that the writers have thought this polonium idea all the way through.

There was polonium poisoning a few years ago, a Russian spy. The people sent to kill him put it in his underwear. It was all over the news. He died because that's what polonium does. It kills. 

Carly drank half a bottle of champagne. Unless the writers are actually planning on killing her, then don't waste my time.

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1 hour ago, YaddaYadda said:

There was polonium poisoning a few years ago, a Russian spy. The people sent to kill him put it in his underwear. It was all over the news. He died because that's what polonium does. It kills. 

In addition to that, this Show already did a polonium poisoning-with Luke and also Sean. It was when Anna, Felicia, Robert (?), and Luke went to Ireland and we got to see Sean-now wheelchair bound and ill, and who had the last of the antidote or something. Then we had a good old fashioned mystery with Anna-Sean and Tiffany's daughter, as she had applied to the WSB. We also got to hear from Tiffany on the phone.

Or am I conflating two different plots?

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14 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

So, since Sasha is having Jaysus’ “baby” she can sit with people who are technically I guess, her employers? I don’t ever recall any of the Cooks doing the same.

That's what happens when you hire a friend instead of someone from an agency.

9 hours ago, ByaNose said:

I think I might have my money on Valentin because Sonny will probably have another ill timed heart attack.

Ill-timed for whom? Certainly not this viewer, heh. This reminds me too much of Carly's "high-risk" pregnancy with Donna: She could stroke out at any moment, but she wasn't even mildly woozy once. Don't give people these things if you can't follow through, Show. We all know Sonny won't die, but at least do more than have him clutch his chest and force poor Isaiah to sekritly minister to him.

9 hours ago, Suicidy 2.0 said:

And why would Martin need to disclose funds from the sale of a client’s home?  And why would Martin receive those funds as income?

As I understand it, Martin gets a piece of the sale proceeds as his fee or whatever, so that would be considered income. He wasn't acting as a neutral third party who's holding the funds until things clear.

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2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

even after Lucy sold Valentin's house to Mooby, he's kept all the furniture! Cheap Frank rearing his head again? Can't afford new props for Mooby

I’ll actually give them a pass on this one since Sonny said it was just a temporary house until the apartment is fixed. But why he would rather live in an apartment (even if it is a penthouse) than an actual house with a backyard for Donna and Avery, is beyond me.

 

9 hours ago, Suicidy 2.0 said:

Are the writers even trying anymore?  This makes me want to go to a fan convention so I can dress these people down in person.

Wouldn’t do any good. The execs don’t attend the fan events, only the actors and occasional staff. I went to one years ago for OLTL. Was asked to do a focus group because they ‘really, truly wanted’ suggestions for what was and wasn’t working. Turns out they only wanted to hear that what WASN’T working, was actually the best story on the show. 

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Joss fighting with her trainer is not entertaining. Why does this show think that every relationship has to start out as antagonists? (e.g. Trina/Kai, Brook Lynn/Chase, possible Tracy/Martin and Molly/Cody). The only one that isn't antagonistic is Isaiah/Jordan which maybe should be because there is so little chemistry now.

Brennan is allowed to see Carly but he keeps her family away?  Sure, show. Was there some love potion that Brennan drank? Because this is way too much, too fast. Meanwhile, he is keeping Joss's whereabouts a secret from her.

Amanda Setton must be loving all this emotion from Brook Lynn's story. Me, not so much.

Sasha is an absolute nutcase now. She's hysterical that Willow moving in with Drew will hurt Michael, she wishes he could have heard that baby's heartbeat with her, but she wants him and his family to have nothing to do with the baby. Pick a lane, woman.

According to this site, a lawyer makes between $800 and $1500 for selling a property. Even if you doubt that if it's very expensive, that's still at most $3000 and there are expenses that come out of that. That's chicken feed in terms of what Martin should be making, and as others have said, shouldn't even need to be reported yet.

22 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I understand why Trina doesn't want to give Esmé any benefit of the doubt, but her upbringing was as chaotic in its own way as Spencer's.

The irony is that a psychosis usually isn't under the control of the person. Sociopathy is. So Trina is unwittingly giving Esme more of an out.

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Did I hear correctly that off-screen Robin worked with WSB to save Carly's miserable life?

I call it now: Carly's going to say she went into cardiac arrest because she sensed that Jason had decided not to tell her something very important.

I was really waiting for lightning to strike Sonny, who has had one son critically wounded in childhood and adulthood, one son dead, a daughter nearly killed by a car bomb he set, and children kidnapped, for telling Valentin "you don't deserve to be a father."

BLQ, your husband doesn't want to go along with you keeping this secret because your reasoning sounds like bullshit to him just as much as it does to the audience. She wants to believe she is doing this to protect the adult child, but it sounds more like she doesn't want to wreck her friendship with Dante and have the family furious with/hurt by her and Lois. 

Telling Chase that she didn't tell Dante the truth as an adult because she realized he didn't have "lingering feelings" for her, makes this retconned secret even more gross. Her ego was hurt because he wasn't interested in sex with her a second time, so she resorted to trying to rape him while he was under the influence?!  (That's what I got out of her talk with Chase; he just doesn't know specifically that Lulu actually caught Brook Lynn in Dante's lap after she slipped something in his drink.)

Basically, she wanted $ from Carly, to have the ego trip of Dante wanting her, and to stick it to Lulu. Girl, you were not a teenager at the time as an excuse for bad behavior and that is not friendship.

If the situations were reversed and Dante was telling this story about withholding a very important truth from BLQ because she was not willing to cheat on her boyfriend with him, this would cause outrage.

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14 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Did I hear correctly that off-screen Robin worked with WSB to save Carly's miserable life?

Of course she did.

Iron Man Eye Roll GIF

Judge Judy Eye Roll GIF

This is the same fucking show, with the same fucking show runner, who had Robin THANK Cujo and say she was the best for Jaysus or whatever bullshit was written for Kimberly to spout, and that she, Robin was "wrong" when Robin and Patrick got remarried and left the show. Why should Robin be shown as better than this hosebeast of a shebeast?

disney rage GIF

 

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Good for Dante for correcting Lulu's "I have my kids with me" to "you mean ours?" 

9 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Sasha is an absolute nutcase now. She's hysterical that Willow moving in with Drew will hurt Michael, she wishes he could have heard that baby's heartbeat with her, but she wants him and his family to have nothing to do with the baby. Pick a lane, woman.

Sasha needs to read up on custody laws at the same time. Sole custody is not granted just because a spouse has had an affair or a kid with someone else. 

I hate how the show so regularly falls back on pregnancy/baby/custody stories. It's so lazy and boring, and ultimately makes no difference.

"You had to hear that from Lulu? Can't she keep her mouth shut about anything?" Right on, Chase. Right on.

Whenever Lulu mentions Rocco, it sounds like an afterthought.

I hope JPS's mustache is for another role, because it's awful.

A teary bedside confession to Carly from Brennan? No, just no.

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23 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

 had Robin THANK Cujo and say she was the best for Jaysus or whatever bullshit was written for Kimberly to spout, and that she, Robin was "wrong" when Robin and Patrick got remarried and left the show.

IMO you can dismiss what Robin said to Carly when Robin and Patrick re-married and left the Show, because Billy Miller was in the role of Jason-soon-to-be-Drew at the time. So, Carly being all gleeful around Robin about having her Jason back didn't really count.

KMcC/Robin didn't see SB/Jason again until Robin and Patrick had Noah off-screen in California, and Sam and Jason/Drew had Scout.

Just now, Bringonthedrama said:

IMO you can dismiss what Robin said to Carly when Robin and Patrick re-married and left the Show, because Billy Miller was in the role of Jason-soon-to-be-Drew at the time.

In my head, those scenes never happened, as I was raging when it did, and just figured I was in a fugue state.

1 minute ago, Bringonthedrama said:

KMcC/Robin didn't see SB/Jason again until Robin and Patrick had Noah off-screen in California, and Sam and Jason/Drew had Scout.

I remember. How she said he couldn't be Jason when Burton returned for...reasons. Then he said something and she believed it was him.

I'm glad Dante stood his ground about what's best for Rocco.  He was remarkably restrained not to remind Lulu that she's had months to reconnect with her son, despite the couple of throwaway lines that were supposed to make us think it was happening off screen.

Maybe it's different with the WSB, or for recruits whose parents are shady characters, but our own alphabet agencies do allow immediate family to know that their loved one has joined.  Just a ridiculous story line in my estimation. It's not like this fulfills some long held dream for Joss, and there's no real reason why she should do it.

Considering the Russian who was polonium-poisoned in the UK had to be buried in a lead-lined coffin, GH's radiation exposure protocols seem lacking.  

Carly's arrhythmia reminded me that only Brennan and Joss actually know that Cyrus is dead, yet no one seems to be looking for him.

Chase is a good guy, but he looks so young that I'm having trouble seeing him eventually becoming Gio's stepdad.

The whole Sasha/baby/Jason/Michael thing is stale.  And I still don't like Valentin.

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1 hour ago, TVbitch said:

Wow, Chase's explosive emotional reaction to the Dante reveal was really worth the wait ....

Haven't seen it yet, so I'm not sure if this is sarcasm.  Probably.

Anyway, Chase will probably be upset for about a minute, like he was when Finn was possibly his dad, when Willow cheated on him, and when Gregory died. 

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I just want Cujo to be told she’s ALIVE because of ROBIN, just to see if she’ll show any gratitude.

Who am I kidding? I can’t have nice things so of course it won’t be mentioned.

I really don’t give a shit about Cujo-but what the hell gives Not!Brennan any rights over her family/next of kin knowing about what happened? Of course Anna would call Jason.

My face at Not!Brennan sniveling his wuv for Cujo:🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Oh do STFU, Mooby. Like he’s any better than Valentin.

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36 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Robin? ROBIN SAVED HER?

I feel utterly betrayed now.
But if it causes Carly's head to explode and she dies anyway I'll take it. 

Yes. When told Cujo had Polonium poisoning, Anna called Robin and had her speak with Isiah, since she knew how to make the antidote. Then the WSB synthesized it, I guess? Since one of Not!Brennan’s minions came running with it to give to Cujo.

And so it seems Not!Brennan was behind the bombing of Mooby’s apartment. Unless Valentin was lying.

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5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Good for Dante for correcting Lulu's "I have my kids with me" to "you mean ours?"

Long may he continue. She thinks that Rocco should live with her at Laura's place because she didn't live with him for 4 years? Rocco should have a major say.  This version of Lulu is very self-absorbed.

4 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I remember. How she said he couldn't be Jason when Burton returned for...reasons. Then he said something and she believed it was him.

She told him that it didn't matter how he felt, he wasn't Jason. It was the cruelest I've ever seen Robin.

3 hours ago, JMO said:

Maybe it's different with the WSB, or for recruits whose parents are shady characters, but our own alphabet agencies do allow immediate family to know that their loved one has joined.  Just a ridiculous story line in my estimation. It's not like this fulfills some long held dream for Joss, and there's no real reason why she should do it.

I still can't understand why Joss is willing to take time away from college to have a secret life and lie to her family and friends. She never struck me as the 'save the world' type.

Joss' boyfriend dies of cancer; she becomes pre-med. Joss second boyfriend is stabbed; she joins law enforcement. If her next boyfriend dies by being struck by a fallen lamp post, will she become a linesman?

52 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And so it seems Not!Brennan was behind the bombing of Mooby’s apartment. Unless Valentin was lying.

Just before the bomb went off, Sidwell skipped across the room to go outside and watch.... something. And then the bomb went off.  It could have been a distraction though.

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Joss trining to be a WSB agent is so dumb. That’s all I got.

Lucas hooks up with a guy and barfs all over him isn’t a good first impression. The new guy (whose name escapes me) is good looking in a weird sort of way. His hair looks like Sonny’s shoe polish. Wait! Could the new guy be Sonny’s new grandson? Just joking. 

What happened to Sasha taking up Sidwell’s money offer? I thought she accepted it or did I miss something?

I’m glad Brook Lynn told Chase about her & Dante. Unfortunately, that means Dante, Carly and Sonny will be over Leo like nobody’s business and start trashing Brook Lynn. At least, we won’t have to suffer through a custody battle. 


 

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5 hours ago, ByaNose said:

I’m glad Brook Lynn told Chase about her & Dante. Unfortunately, that means Dante, Carly and Sonny will be over Leo like nobody’s business and start trashing Brook Lynn. At least, we won’t have to suffer through a custody battle. 

I don't see it. 

When BLQ got pregnant, no one knew that Dante was Sonny's son. And even if they did, what is it any business of his?

Lois made sure Sonny was in Gio's life.

Carly has actually shown BLQ a lot of grace. And she knows that Dante is the father.

7 hours ago, ByaNose said:

The new guy (whose name escapes me) is good looking in a weird sort of way. His hair looks like Sonny’s shoe polish. Wait! Could the new guy be Sonny’s new grandson? Just joking. 

Eva LaRue confirmed that he is Marco, the Bigoted Natalia's son; and also Sidwell's. Of course, nothing official from the Show who he is.

7 hours ago, ByaNose said:

What happened to Sasha taking up Sidwell’s money offer? I thought she accepted it or did I miss something?

Based on her conversation with whoever (I rarely pay attention and am still hoping that it will turn out she's NOT a Scorpio), it sounded like she did-she told them money wasn't a problem anymore.

I just can't with this hypocritical, un-self-aware, con artist (I remember Valentin hired her to pretend to be Nina's child, so she can miss me with how Holly was the absolute worst and made her do cons with her, since she clearly didn't stop once Holly dumped her at gramma's), going on and on how she wished the SLS could have been here to see the sonogram. Bint, you told him you didn't want him involved in anything to do with your spawn from the get go. And that was before he was burned. And now Willow is the scheming ex, who will absolutely keep his other spawn from him if she learns the SLS also cheated? Please.

7 hours ago, ByaNose said:

I’m glad Brook Lynn told Chase about her & Dante. Unfortunately, that means Dante, Carly and Sonny will be over Leo like nobody’s business and start trashing Brook Lynn

It's Gio, and I doubt it. One because Mooby has been in Gio all his life; two, that's not who Dante is; and three, well of course, because Cujo is a baby hoarder, but Gio isn't a baby, and she already knows some of the history. But again, this is Cujo.

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15 hours ago, statsgirl said:

She thinks that Rocco should live with her at Laura's place because she didn't live with him for 4 years? Rocco should have a major say. 

The problem with that is that he might feel he has to live with Lulu because they missed four years together. Poor Rocco. He's really stuck between a rock and a hard place, and despite what his mother says, he's still not an equal priority for her.

15 hours ago, statsgirl said:

I still can't understand why Joss is willing to take time away from college to have a secret life and lie to her family and friends. She never struck me as the 'save the world' type.

I feel like Joss was coerced into this. Brennan told her he'd never tell anyone she killed Cyrus, but the threat is always there. Jack sold her a decent story about saving the world and serving her country and all of that, but it's all OOC for Joss. It's also ridiculous that Joss can't get her undergrad degree at the same time, but I guess the WSB wants them dumb and stupid so they can mold them into emotionless robots. No wonder Brennan was so hot to keep Jason on the payroll.

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4 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Eva LaRue confirmed that he is Marco, the Bigoted Natalia's son; and also Sidwell's. Of course, nothing official from the Show who he is.

Based on her conversation with whoever (I rarely pay attention and am still hoping that it will turn out she's NOT a Scorpio), it sounded like she did-she told them money wasn't a problem anymore.

I just can't with this hypocritical, un-self-aware, con artist (I remember Valentin hired her to pretend to be Nina's child, so she can miss me with how Holly was the absolute worst and made her do cons with her, since she clearly didn't stop once Holly dumped her at gramma's), going on and on how she wished the SLS could have been here to see the sonogram. Bint, you told him you didn't want him involved in anything to do with your spawn from the get go. And that was before he was burned. And now Willow is the scheming ex, who will absolutely keep his other spawn from him if she learns the SLS also cheated? Please.

It's Gio, and I doubt it. One because Mooby has been in Gio all his life; two, that's not who Dante is; and three, well of course, because Cujo is a baby hoarder, but Gio isn't a baby, and she already knows some of the history. But again, this is Cujo.

Yes. I meant Gio. I honestly can’t remember if I typed Leo or it autocorrected from Gio to Leo which would be funny because there used to be a Leo but he hasn’t been seen in ages. Also, it does not matter the age. Everyone will want a piece of Gio. 

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Doesn't polonium take longer to take effect than a few minutes?  That's one of the reasons it's such an effective poison.

Why is Anna taking orders from Brennan not to call Sonny? Brennan should have zero say in it. The crime happened in Port Charles, and Brennan is not Carly's PoA.

Sonny wants Brennan to murder Valentin. Anna's right, our show's hero is a bastard. If one of them has to go, I want it be Brennan.

3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

The problem with that is that he might feel he has to live with Lulu because they missed four years together. Poor Rocco. He's really stuck between a rock and a hard place, and despite what his mother says, he's still not an equal priority for her.

That's a good point. In that case, I hope that Dante fights for Rocco living with him and Danny at least 50% of the time.

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