Carlin and Evan: But Mostly Carlin!

[Salacious Kitty]

And they're back in Nashville after spending the early part of the week in Vegas. Are they ever home?

[Notabug]

5 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Those jeans are an eyesore.  She is an attractive woman with a nice figure, if that outfit is so unflattering on her, no way it is going to look good on anyone at all.  The obsession with beige, oatmeal, tan with the occasional touch of rosewood is also not benefiting her appearance or anyone else' either. 

 The very same outfit could be purchased at H&M, Old Navy, Target, Marshall's or any number of retailers for half the price.  Or, better yet, get a better outfit that is far more flattering for half the price at any of those places.

[Cinnabon]

If you’re going to be a basic bitch, pay basic prices! 😃

[dargosmydaddy]

Granted I am not a fashionista, but how the hell do you wear jeans and a tank top "styled in different ways"? Maybe sometimes she tucks the shirt in? Or wears the hat backwards? Or... no, I'm lost here.

[Lisa418722]

2 hours ago, clueless101 said:

I don’t believe there is anything wrong with this woman other than attention seeking.  

I know she was in the wheelchair while they were in Las Vegas, but did she ever have any other episodes while they were there?

Edited August 13, 2022 by Lisa418722

[GeeGolly]

3 hours ago, dargosmydaddy said:

Granted I am not a fashionista, but how the hell do you wear jeans and a tank top "styled in different ways"? Maybe sometimes she tucks the shirt in? Or wears the hat backwards? Or... no, I'm lost here.

Lol!! During her shills she shows shirts that are longer, shorter, tucked and untucked, so yes, just what you said, same shit different day.

[Salacious Kitty]

2 hours ago, Lisa418722 said:

I know she was in the wheelchair while they were in Las Vegas, but did she ever have any other episodes while they were there?

The last episode they've copped to was the one at Vacation Bible School. Of course, no episodes while traveling. 🙄

[lookeyloo]

55 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

The last episode they've copped to was the one at Vacation Bible School. Of course, no episodes while traveling. 🙄

Or that they showed.  Could go either way. Showing for clicks or not showing so she can drive

[Salacious Kitty]

6 minutes ago, lookeyloo said:

Or that they showed.  Could go either way. Showing for clicks or not showing so she can drive

In my state, it's a six month suspension from the date of the last episode (just learned that in CPR/First Aid training yesterday). I have no clue what the law is in TN.

[lookeyloo]

Just now, Salacious Kitty said:

In my state, it's a six month suspension from the date of the last episode (just learned that in CPR/First Aid training yesterday). I have no clue what the law is in TN.

And I guess we would have to wonder if they think the law is for them?   Even if a dr. submits something to the DMV, could imagine them saying who will know.  

[Heathen]

33 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

In my state, it's a six month suspension from the date of the last episode (just learned that in CPR/First Aid training yesterday). I have no clue what the law is in TN.

It's six months in my state as well, but a year in Tennessee. I was surprised that Tennessee was so strict. 

I think Carlin and Evan are in for a rude awakening very soon. Even some of the Bateshumpers in the Bates subreddit are becoming vocally skeptical about the Stewarts' BS. 

[Cinnabon]

2 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

The last episode they've copped to was the one at Vacation Bible School. Of course, no episodes while traveling. 🙄

Shocking!

1 hour ago, lookeyloo said:

And I guess we would have to wonder if they think the law is for them?   Even if a dr. submits something to the DMV, could imagine them saying who will know.  

More of the “law and order” crowd at work.

[SMama]

Is Evan due to return to work Monday? 

[Salacious Kitty]

11 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

More of the “law and order” crowd at work.

Our instructor said that the majority of seizure patients don't want to go to the ER because they know about the consequences of losing their license. But it's recommended that they get checked out. But now we know why Carlin avoids the ER.

[Tdoc72]

19 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

Shocking!

She did go back on her meds and they probably regulated by now. When she was on them before, she said she had less seizures, less powerful if she had one and she could feel them coming on. So maybe she hasn’t had one or felt it coming hence the wheelchair. 🤷🏻‍♀️

10 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Our instructor said that the majority of seizure patients don't want to go to the ER because they know about the consequences of losing their license. But it's recommended that they get checked out. But now we know why Carlin avoids the ER.

They know about the No driving for a year thing; they’ve mentioned it. They also mentioned why they don’t go to the ER every time. I don’t think it’s to avoid restarting the year over. 

[Cinnabon]

52 minutes ago, Tdoc72 said:

She did go back on her meds and they probably regulated by now. When she was on them before, she said she had less seizures, less powerful if she had one and she could feel them coming on. So maybe she hasn’t had one or felt it coming hence the wheelchair. 🤷🏻‍♀️

They know about the No driving for a year thing; they’ve mentioned it. They also mentioned why they don’t go to the ER every time. I don’t think it’s to avoid restarting the year over. 

Conveniently, she has been free of “episodes” on every single vacation they’ve taken in the last few months. There’s the grift, imo.

Isn’t it a year from the last seizure whether they go to the ER or not? If her last one was 2 weeks ago, the clock starts then.

Edited August 14, 2022 by Cinnabon

[BitterApple]

Omg, you guys. Check out Jinger Duggar's stories. BSB sent her "happy mail" in the form of clothing and it literally looks like castoffs they couldn't sell at the cash-and-carry. I guess free publicity was worth the price of postage, but it seriously looks like they just plucked random shit from the boxes and threw it in a mailer. 😂😂🤣

Edited August 14, 2022 by BitterApple

[Salacious Kitty]

Yikes! That was a whole lotta fug. 

[GeeGolly]

If the BSB sent Jing clothes for exposure, the IG story was barely 3 seconds long, lol. Other than that its odd they sent Jinger clothes and not one of the other sisters. Maybe the clothes were tiny sizes that no one else would fit into?

[So unbelievable]

I find it odd that she hasn't been tired once in the past week plus.  She said the medication made her so tired and couldn't function.  Hell couldn't even function enough to get up the stairs to her bedroom.  But now she's been off to Vegas and Nashville and out about town no problems.  They just make me sick.

[Lisa418722]

10 hours ago, Cinnabon said:

Conveniently, she has been free of “episodes” on every single vacation they’ve taken in the last few months. There’s the grift, imo.

1 hour ago, So unbelievable said:

I find it odd that she hasn't been tired once in the past week plus.  She said the medication made her so tired and couldn't function.  Hell couldn't even function enough to get up the stairs to her bedroom.  But now she's been off to Vegas and Nashville and out about town no problems.  They just make me sick.

 We will probably see something now when they get back home that she is just so EXHAUSTED after restarting her meds, but "Thank You God I Didn't Have Any Seizures While I Was In Las Vegas or Nashville." 
Of course Evan will say something like "after many prayers, our family has decided I cannot return to work at this time because I need to be available to help Carlin 24/7."  You know we have to go to Starbucks every day and we have to be able to go on multiple trips a year and I can't go on trips and work because I'm not given unlimited vacation time.  My coworkers would resent me. 

[Cinnabon]

5 hours ago, So unbelievable said:

I find it odd that she hasn't been tired once in the past week plus.  She said the medication made her so tired and couldn't function.  Hell couldn't even function enough to get up the stairs to her bedroom.  But now she's been off to Vegas and Nashville and out about town no problems.  They just make me sick.

Well, it made her feel that way when they were not on vacation. Duh!

3 hours ago, Lisa418722 said:

 We will probably see something now when they get back home that she is just so EXHAUSTED after restarting her meds, but "Thank You God I Didn't Have Any Seizures While I Was In Las Vegas or Nashville." 
Of course Evan will say something like "after many prayers, our family has decided I cannot return to work at this time because I need to be available to help Carlin 24/7."  You know we have to go to Starbucks every day and we have to be able to go on multiple trips a year and I can't go on trips and work because I'm not given unlimited vacation time.  My coworkers would resent me. 

I’d actually respect him a bit if he just told those truths. 

[Absolom]

I'm merrily waiting to pop popcorn and watch the unfolding of the saga if they present a resolution.  She's a Bates.  She may just expect the questions to fade away without explaining the bare facts of what was/is wrong.

[Heathen]

19 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Our instructor said that the majority of seizure patients don't want to go to the ER because they know about the consequences of losing their license. But it's recommended that they get checked out. But now we know why Carlin avoids the ER.

My guess about Carlin  avoiding the ER is that they know she's full of shit. I don't think there is anything physically wrong with her. I have epilepsy, and I also did the epilepsy first-aid training through the EFA last year. (It was online, if anyone is interested.) We were taught that most people with diagnosed epilepsy don't need to go to the ER after every seizure unless it lasts longer than five minutes, is followed by another seizure, the seizure happens in water, or they hurt themselves in the fall (I've done that). 

Shall we start a countdown until Evan announces that he's abandoning his electrician license, five years of schooling, and a real job in order to be a full-time fame whore? 

[Cinnabon]

If she starts driving before next July (assuming she doesn’t have another “episode” after that, starting the year over), people have the receipts so she can expect to be reported to law enforcement and the DMV. There might be a downside to making her personal medical problems public. 

Edited August 15, 2022 by Cinnabon

[ginger90]

[Salacious Kitty]

I guess that's the closest admission we'll get that Evan quit his job.

[BitterApple]

Oh, of course! No seizures in glitzy Las Vegas during fun times, no seizures in Nashville where the Stewarts are playing nanny, but the second she sets foot in her own door and has to resume adult responsibilities, she falls out. So now Callie, Addie and Ellie will watch the kids and deal with the house while Carlin sits on her lilypad and makes sad faces for the 'Gram. I'm respectful of those with chronic illness, but she is so full of shit. 

[GeeGolly]

Hmmm, what a contrast to the video they did. Carlin said 99% of the time she is fine and the docs said just keep living your life. Yet here she says seizures and talks about recovery time. If she is having even one seizure a week, with one day of recovery, that's a lot more than 1% of her waking hours.

@Cinnabon - new start date for driving restriction. 

[Heathen]

Didn't her doctors (if they actually exist) rule out cardiac-related triggers a few months ago? 

Don't these fundie parents teach their kids not to lie? 

[3 is enough]

If that isn’t a set up for “Evan will not be returning to work when his FMLA is up because I still need him” I don’t know what is. 🙄

[GeeGolly]

Do any of you sleep with a bra on? It seems in every picture of Carlin in pajamas, she is wearing a bra.

[Heathen]

28 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Do any of you sleep with a bra on? It seems in every picture of Carlin in pajamas, she is wearing a bra.

I do. Can't stand not to wear one, even to sleep. But I'm sure those photos of Carlin are planned, staged, and edited just like everything else she puts on social media. She's wearing makeup in that last photo, too. 

[Tdoc72]

16 hours ago, So unbelievable said:

I find it odd that she hasn't been tired once in the past week plus.  She said the medication made her so tired and couldn't function.  Hell couldn't even function enough to get up the stairs to her bedroom.  But now she's been off to Vegas and Nashville and out about town no problems.  They just make me sick.

That what happens when she first starts taking it/until it regulates. Both times she has started it, she said this happens. 
They showed her in Vegas in the wheelchair and mention she wasn’t feeling good. Also, no matter how much they post, we don’t see them 24/7 and don’t know what they’re doing. And this is just my opinion, she has major FOMO and does a bunch of stuff despite being sick and she should be resting. 

[cereality]

Sounds like it's been multiple episodes. It sounds like something happened last night - Saturday night when she was out for a girls night for that girl Christian's bday. If there have been multiple episodes yet Vegas was fine, then maybe something on Wed night/Thursday in Nashville? Bc they flew most of the day Wed, Thurs was quiet, but then on Friday she and Evan were out at some pizza place on Broadway, she took a million pics holding Zade in a touristy area, out to a baseball game in a stadium with his family, and then at some point that evening they drove to Law's house and drove home to Knox late that night. They've continuously been moving since last Sunday when they flew to Vegas to a girls night on Saturday "because she never gets to do girls nights" -- uh sweetie you dumped your kids for three days just this week, didn't you?

Pretty sure that's as direct an announcement as they're going to make about Evan's work. If he was returning, he'd be back to work tomorrow as it's been 12 weeks. I feel like now they just ignore the issue until weeks/months from now they answer it in an IG question series or on a YT live. And if in the meantime people offend them by asking that question on their IG posts, they'll start deleting and blocking.

Not that they share everything but I wonder if the cardiologist will want further testing. She and Evan keep saying they don't have results yet, but the heart monitor was done like the week after Law's wedding in mid May and even if things are super slow [which they are due to pandemic related cardiac issues], the cardiologist would still have gotten results by late May and if he saw something worrisome/wanted more testing, he wouldn't wait until mid Aug to get her into the office/into testing.

[3 is enough]

51 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Do any of you sleep with a bra on? It seems in every picture of Carlin in pajamas, she is wearing a bra.

She’s still breastfeeding/pumping.  I don’t sleep in a bra, but I did when I was nursing my babies.

But since every photo is staged I’m sure she always has a bra on, even when she isn’t nursing.

[Kiss my mutt]

Is anti-seizure medicine even safe to take while breastfeeding?

[Heathen]

25 minutes ago, Kiss my mutt said:

Is anti-seizure medicine even safe to take while breastfeeding?

Some are, some aren't. This is probably what she's on, if in fact she's on anything. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK501229/

More accessible info: https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-18053/keppra-oral/details

Edited August 15, 2022 by Heathen
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[Cinnabon]

3 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Oh, of course! No seizures in glitzy Las Vegas during fun times, no seizures in Nashville where the Stewarts are playing nanny, but the second she sets foot in her own door and has to resume adult responsibilities, she falls out. So now Callie, Addie and Ellie will watch the kids and deal with the house while Carlin sits on her lilypad and makes sad faces for the 'Gram. I'm respectful of those with chronic illness, but she is so full of shit. 

Don’t forget the long, chaotic trip to California. Hours in the airport and hours on a crowded, loud plane, round trip.  The post is BS, and of course she uses the unbelievably cringy “season of life.” Good lord.

[Cinnabon]

4 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I guess that's the closest admission we'll get that Evan quit his job.

See: lies of omission. Will they also delete comments from fans who ask about it?

4 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Oh, of course! No seizures in glitzy Las Vegas during fun times, no seizures in Nashville where the Stewarts are playing nanny, but the second she sets foot in her own door and has to resume adult responsibilities, she falls out. So now Callie, Addie and Ellie will watch the kids and deal with the house while Carlin sits on her lilypad and makes sad faces for the 'Gram. I'm respectful of those with chronic illness, but she is so full of shit. 

Didn’t they also just go on a beach vacation in July? No “episodes” then either, of course. How is anyone still buying her stories?

[Cinnabon]

3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Cinnabon - new start date for driving restriction. 

Yep! A year from today. If she talks about driving before then, hello DMV.

2 hours ago, Heathen said:

Didn't her doctors (if they actually exist) rule out cardiac-related triggers a few months ago? 

Don't these fundie parents teach their kids not to lie? 

From what I’ve seen, fundies lie a lot more than everyone else. I guess their Jesus is different than the one most of us learned and read about. 

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Do any of you sleep with a bra on? It seems in every picture of Carlin in pajamas, she is wearing a bra.

When you’re very well endowed, sometimes it’s more comfortable! 

[crimson23]

the part that is confusing and frustrating is that the events on the you tube videos are literally so last week, or maybe 2 weeks old. Then we see the current IG stories and nothing meshes. 

The trick to meds is sometimes getting the right combinations.  Some people can't even change the time of day they take their meds or they react differently. She said her meds were upped so hopefully things will regulate.  

[Cinnabon]

15 minutes ago, crimson23 said:

the part that is confusing and frustrating is that the events on the you tube videos are literally so last week, or maybe 2 weeks old. Then we see the current IG stories and nothing meshes. 

The trick to meds is sometimes getting the right combinations.  Some people can't even change the time of day they take their meds or they react differently. She said her meds were upped so hopefully things will regulate.  

Sounds like they’re “regulated” exactly how she planned. Lots of “episodes” at home, church, and the shop where she can be seen, and absolutely NONE on her many vacations.

[Tdoc72]

3 hours ago, Heathen said:

Some are, some aren't. This is probably what she's on, if in fact she's on anything. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK501229/

More accessible info: https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-18053/keppra-oral/details

She mentioned it once and Keppra does ring a bell. 

[GeeGolly]

Evan has said he takes pride in posting current YT videos, so between daily posts and YT videos, followers are seeing their lives almost in real time.

Evan had said he used up his PTO about three months ago. They've done a lot of moving and shaking in the last 12 weeks that they wouldn't have been able to do if Evan was working.

And oh yikes! IMO, the video of Layla singing, poking and kicking Carlin as she 'slept' proves to me that Carlin is a really good actor. There is no way, no how anyone would not wake up with a kid in their face like that, yet Carlin didn't flinch. Funny thing is, other than the shaking she looked very much like she does when she's having a 'seizure'. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Edited August 15, 2022 by GeeGolly

[65mickey]

I don't understand the big deal with Evan and his job and the FMLA. If he doesn't want to return to work why not just quit like Gil, Chad and Bobby did when he up and left the church gig after 6 months. All he has to say is I can't work and make sure that Carlin and the kids are safe end of story.  I just don't get all of the drama. But he better figure out a way to pay for medical insurance because hospitals and specialists do not take payment in trade with his electrical services. 

There are ways for Evan to return to work and keep the kids safe. Ask family members to stay with her one day a week and rotate the days. Hire sitters for a couple of days a week when the family can't help. Or put the kids in full time day care. And get a medical device that Carlin wears every minute of the day and in a non scary way work with Layla to push the button if she can't wake mommy up.  They have had 3 months to figure something out. 

[GeeGolly]

At the start of all this I defended Carlin, then I switched and stayed in the malingering/exaggeration camp. After seeing that mini reel of Layla laying all over Carlin while she was 'sleeping', I'm very close to thinking Carlin has Munchausen's/Factious disorder.

There is no doubt in my mind at this point Carlin may have been faking that '20 minute seizure' filmed at her inlaws. I hope for Evan's sake they're in this together, because if not he's being fooled too.

[BitterApple]

1 minute ago, GeeGolly said:

I'm very close to thinking Carlin has Munchausen's/Factious disorder.

A therapist said the same thing a while back on the subReddit and got ripped to shreds for it.

I have zero experience with neurology or mental health, but is it possible there's nothing physically wrong with Carlin, she just works herself up into such a state that it manifests into fainting and seizures? 

It's hard for me to believe she and Evan are above board, because their behavior makes no sense. 

It's also interesting how Layla's health issues aren't even mentioned anymore now that Carlin's found a more lucrative way to get the spotlight on herself. 

[GeeGolly]

28 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

A therapist said the same thing a while back on the subReddit and got ripped to shreds for it.

I have zero experience with neurology or mental health, but is it possible there's nothing physically wrong with Carlin, she just works herself up into such a state that it manifests into fainting and seizures? 

It's hard for me to believe she and Evan are above board, because their behavior makes no sense. 

It's also interesting how Layla's health issues aren't even mentioned anymore now that Carlin's found a more lucrative way to get the spotlight on herself. 

Munchausen's/Factious disorder is super rare and somewhat difficult to diagnose as it needs a coordinated effort between a mental health professional and medical professionals. Because the causes of seizures in and of themselves are hard to pin down it could be years before a medical professional's Spidey Sense would be aroused, as they're not seeing what we are seeing.

I'm going to guess if a doctor saw the 'seizure' reel followed by this latest Layla reel, they'd get a pit in their stomach and wonder if something was up. I hope someone on Redditt saved the reel.

As far as Carlin working herself up into some kind of stress/anxiety seizure - the answer IMO is no, not in my experience. I've been in the field forever and regularly fainting due to anxiety is not the norm.

[Absolom]

I've followed this story without watching their videos always remembering at base that Carlin has always been a drama queen.  I think she may have had an issue from recent delivery, bad diet, too much caffeine, and lack of sleep.  Getting so much attention would have appealed to her.  It could easily be just that. 

Then I remember a high school friend who was also a drama queen.  She claimed an injured knee and none of us took her seriously.  Soon she was out of school for knee surgery and we all had to rethink it.  

Would the doctors put her on medication if they didn't see at least something?  Today I'm leaning toward a combination of overly dramatic and some issue that may need treatment, but she's making the most of it.