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This same review was posted on two sites (I actually thought it was too harsh on Laurel)... ARROW Review - S4 Ep.4 (Beyond Redemption) By boboMELOSHE - 10/28/2015 http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/OTLNews/news/?a=126413 http://otlnews.net/2015/10/29/arrow-review-s4-ep-4-beyond-redemption/

'Arrow' 4x04 'Beyond Redemption' Review: Desperate Times Allison Nichols October 28, 2015 :02 PM MST http://www.examiner.com/review/arrow-4x04-beyond-redemption-review-desperate-times

Best 'Arrow' Quotes from 'Beyond Redemption' http://www.buddytv.com/slideshows/arrow/best-arrow-quotes-from-beyond-redemption-39843.aspx

How to fall off a high-horse and other things: 4x04 Thoughts 5 hours ago http://outoftheclosetshipper.tumblr.com/post/132139314413/how-to-fall-off-a-high-horse-and-other-things

Arrow, Ep. 4.04, “Beyond Redemption” Randy Dankievitch October 29, 2015 http://www.popoptiq.com/arrow-beyond-redemption-review/

'Arrow' Recap: Dirty Cops and Dirtier Cops Robert Chan October 29, 2015 https://www.yahoo.com/tv/arrow-recap-dirty-cops-and-dirtier-cops-044758405.html

I believe the similarities were supposed to be in terms of personality, humor, and being a quirky tech genius. Ray was his example of the wrong way to clone Felicity. I couldn't quote the entire Doughterty article on Felicity, but he does address the stalker issue - also from that article:

Again, I could only quote excerpts, so you may want to read the entire review... Arrow 4x04 "Beyond Redemption" (Save What Had Been Lost) 6:49 PM arrow review, s04.04 http://www.itsjustaboutwrite.com/2015/10/arrow-4x04-beyond-redemption-save-what.html

Dougherty considers Ray Palmer to be LoT's Felicity equivalent. And here's Dougherty's review of 404... Arrow S4: E4 -- 'Beyond Redemption' By Robert Dougherty October 29, 2015 09:16AM EDT http://www.themovienetwork.com/review/arrow-s4-e4-beyond-redemption

I could only quote excerpts, so you may want to read the whole article... The TV Superhero Descendants Of Felicity Smoak By Robert Dougherty Oct 28, 2015 12:15 PM http://www.themovienetwork.com/article/tv-superhero-descendants-felicity-smoak

Arrow Recap: Karma Police By Jenny Raftery October 29, 2015 9:09 a.m. http://www.vulture.com/2015/10/arrow-recap-season-4-episode-4.html?mid=twitter-share-vulture

ARROW: "BEYOND REDEMPTION" REVIEW BY JESSE SCHEDEEN 28 OCT 2015 http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/29/arrow-beyond-redemption-review

I just posted the full ComicBook interview with WM in the Spoilers thread. Apparently, there will be no more new costumes this season (bad luck, Mr. Terrific). They made a "conscious decision" to focus on Diggle's and Felicity's individual back stories this season. Also, the EPs seem proud of how they're balancing screen time for all of the characters this year, (eye roll)

I believe I was the one who came up with that scenario when I was playing devil's advocate. I was in a depressed, distrustful state where I was imagining how the EPs could force a ridiculous plot contrivance. To clarify, I do not want that to happen at all.

https://twitter.com/mguggenheim/status/659548062516285440

This episode highlighted even more the League assassins' incompetence last season. Now even SCPD cops can defeat Laurel, Thea and Diggle - and even Oliver! - in hand-to-hand combat, but not League assassins. Yes, the cops had special hi-tech gadgets, but that just means the LOA is outdated and irrelevant (with their purple smoke signal communications and apparent lack of any tech). I guess this means Quentin has joined TA - or at the very least become their Commissioner Gordon. Despite the mediocrity of this episode, there were some really good acting scenes between PB and SA. I'm fine with the one-second shot of Felicity crying while listening to Ray's audio recording. She cared about him as a friend, so of course she grieved. (If she hadn't shown grief, she'd be criticized for being unfeeling and only dating him last season because he was rich.) She doesn't seem to have very many friends, so if any one of them died, she'd cry for them. I think Oliver and Felicity purchased (not leased) the building that now houses his mayoral campaign hq and the new Arrowcave, so that they can control the facility. Maybe after the campaign is over and he's elected Mayor, the campaign hq can be converted into a flower shop. Then Laurel can quit her ADA job and become a florist (BC) while also guarding the entrance to the Arrowcave... ;) BTW, I noticed that AK and SS (Sarah Schecter) were included among the EPs listed in the opening credits (in addition to MG, WM and GB). When did that start happening? And are MG and WM now included in the opening credits for The Flash?

This is an interesting perspective (I could only quote excerpts, so you might want to read the whole article)... Bam, Crash, Snooze: TV Fight Scenes Have Never Been Less Fun to Watch By Willa Paskin OCT. 28 2015 8:02 AM http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/10/28/tv_fight_scenes_from_supergirl_to_quantico_why_they_have_never_been_less.html

'Sleepy Hollow' Promotes Jessica Camacho to Series Regular (Exclusive) OCTOBER 27, 2015 9:00am PT by Lesley Goldberg http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/sleepy-hollow-promotes-jessica-camacho-834757 Sleepy Hollow - Episode 3.08 - Novus Ordo Seclorum - Press Release Posted by Nirat Anop at Tuesday, October 27, 2015 http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/10/sleepy-hollow-episode-308-novus-ordo.html

FOX Upcoming Episode Press Releases - Various Shows - 27th October 2015 Posted by Nirat Anop at Tuesday, October 27, 2015 http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/10/fox-upcoming-episode-press-releases_27.html

CWFanTalk (on CWSeed - recording not yet posted) for last night's episode of The Flash had as its special guest, DC Comics Creative Director Dan Evans, who said: "Felicity Smoak was just a minor character and now she's just - EVERYBODY loves her." Source: https://twitter.com/CammienRay/status/659150943481700352

Arrow | Stunts: The Candidate | The CW Published on Oct 26, 2015, by The CW Television Network

Last week Laura Hurley wrote this article on "5 Reasons Arrow Is Better Than The Flash". Now her colleague at CinemaBlend, Eric Eisenberg, has written his rebuttal article titled "5 Reasons The Flash Is Better Than Arrow". Two of his major points seem to be: (1) Flash's "monster-of-the-week" storytelling makes the show fresher and more original than Arrow's serial drama (I disagree, I think the monster-of-the-week storytelling is repetitive and boring); and (2) "ewww... no girl cooties" on Flash (well, okay, I'm paraphrasing).

https://twitter.com/lah9891/status/659141310222352384

My recollection is that she was bumping into people on the street and knocking things over in the office... but maybe I've just been influenced by multiple media reviews describing Kara as clumsy.

EW review of last night's episode... '4,722 Hours' Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 3, Ep. 5 | Aired Oct 27 Posted October 27 2015 — 10:00 PM EDT BY ANDREA TOWERS http://www.ew.com/recap/agents-of-shield-season-3-episode-5