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Matt's Inside Line: Scoop on Once, Scorpion, Quantico, Major Crimes, Castle, Blindspot, Supergirl and More By Matt Webb Mitovich / October 18 2015, 3:23 PM PDT http://tvline.com/2015/10/18/once-upon-a-time-season-5-fall-finale-episode/

This is a great article... Eat, Prey, ‘Arrow’ — Oliver Queen’s Guide to Traveling The World by kayti burt 4h ago http://www.mtv.com/news/2352426/eat-prey-arrow-oliver-queens-guide-to-traveling-the-world/?xrs=_s.tw_news

In the Social Media thread (page 246), I posted some tweets about Arrow, Flash, Gotham and Supergirl banners being posted on the WB water tower. Here's some articles about that historic event (apparently it's a temporary makeover and those banners will stay up for only 90 days)... Warner Bros Gives Superhero Makeover To Iconic Water Tower by Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 2015 11:17pm http://deadline.com/2015/10/warner-bros-adds-super-hero-banners-to-water-tower-1201588402/ FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, THE WARNER BROS. WATER TOWER GETS A MAKEOVER DCTV SUPER HERO TAKEOVER INCLUDING ARROW, THE FLASH, GOTHAM’S DETECTIVE GORDON AND SUPERGIRL UNVEILED ON ICONIC STRUCTURE BURBANK, Calif. (October 19, 2015) http://warnerbrostv.tumblr.com/post/131516106500/wb-water-tower-makeover

Get to know ‘Arrow’s new superhero actor Echo Kellum Colleen Bement October 19, 2015 10:51 PM MST http://www.examiner.com/article/get-to-know-arrow-s-new-superhero-actor-echo-kellum

Since some threads/posts have been merged, I don't know if all of the source citations are still accurate... SUMMARY OF ALL SPOILERS FOR NEXT THREE EPISODES (403 - 405) S4, Episode 3: Restoration -- Production code: 403. Director: Wendey Stanzler. Airdate: Oct. 21, 2015. -- 403 synopsis: "The growing tension between Oliver (Stephen Amell) and Diggle (David Ramsey) puts both their lives at risk when they go after Damien Darhk (guest star Neal McDonough) and a H.I.V.E. deployed meta-human. Meanwhile, Laurel (Katie Cassidy) talks Thea (Willa Holland) into returning to Nanda Parbat to ask her father (John Barrowman) to put Sara (guest star Caity Lotz) into the Lazarus Pit. However, Laurel is surprised when Nyssa (guest star Katrina Law) refuses to do it. Wendey Stanzler directed the episode written by Wendy Mericle & Speed Weed (#403). Original airdate 10/21/2015." -- 403 preview pics posted. (amellynation article, page 23 of Spoilers thread) -- 403 producer's preview video posted. (WM tweet, page 23 of Spoilers thread) -- 403 sneak peek videos posted. (CW Arrow tweet and TV Guide article, page 23 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, Billy Joel song for 4x03 would be "I Go to Extremes." (MG tumblr post, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- Jeremy Tell aka Double Down (JR Bourne) and Conklin (Ryan Robbins) will debut in this episode. Jocelyn Ott and Giles Panton will appear in an early episode of S4 and may be working with JR Bourne. (JO, JRB and GP tweets, page 183 of Behind the Mask thread) -- JR Bourne has been cast as Jeremy Tell, a/k/a Double Down, a DC comic book villain. Tell is a metahuman who can turn his playing card tattoos into deadly weapons. He will appear in 4x03. (TheWrap article, page 18 of Spoilers thread) -- In response to a fan asking if we're gonna see Felicity in a casino playing cards again because she's so awesome at it, MG: "There’s kind of a reference to it in Ep. 403." (MG tumblr post, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- On their encounter with Double Down [in 403], EK: "This meta-human tracks down Felicity, and Curtis is with her, and they kind of go through a sequence where Felicity's badass-ness has to come into the forefront. She has to shut down that situation and save the day. So I think it's a really cool moment because you get to see Felicity really be the hero that she is." (TV Guide article, page 23 of Spoilers thread) -- Double Down approaches elevator which has Curtis and Felicity in it. Felicity kicks Double Down back just as elevator doors close. Curtis asks "since when are you such a badass?" Felicity answers "since always." (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Per MG, Malcolm Merlyn will keep the long cape but will get back in the hood in 4x03. (Flicks and the City video of full Arrow panel at SDCC 2015, page 64 of Starling City Times thread, and TVLine article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Ryan Robbins has been cast in the recurring role of Conklin for S4. Conklin is "a sadistic and ruthless member of Shadowspire who will be an adversary for Oliver" in flashbacks. This flashback arc will also see Oliver take on Baron Reiter, who is the leader of Shadowspire. Conklin will make his first appearance in 4x03. (Variety article, page 18 of Spoilers thread and page 563 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- [ALREADY DEBUTED] Jimmy Akingbola has been cast in the recurring role of Baron Reiter. He is the leader of the nefarious group Shadowspire. He will be Oliver’s adversary seen in flashbacks. This grizzled, hardened and commanding man, who has no conscience and few compunctions, offers Oliver a job in his underground organization." (Deadline article, page 559 of Spoiler Discussion thread) S4, Episode 4: Beyond Redemption -- Production code: 405. Director: Lexi Alexander. Airdate: Oct. 28, 2015. (Production codes are in production order, not air date order.) -- 4th ep. synopsis: "Laurel (Katie Cassidy) must deal with the repercussions of taking Sara (guest star Caity Lotz) to Nanda Parbat. Meanwhile, Oliver (Stephen Amell) asks Captain Lance (Paul Blackthorne) for a favor and while he’s not surprised at the response, he is surprised at what he finds out next. Lexi Alexander directed the episode written by Beth Schwartz & Ben Sokolowski (#405). Original airdate 10/28/2015." -- Per MG, Billy Joel song for 4th episode would be "Great Suburban Showdown." (MG tumblr post, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- Liza Warner (Rutina Wesley) may be making her debut in this episode. (RW tweet and instagram pic, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Arrow Production Offices tweet, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- Conklin (Ryan Robbins) will appear in this episode (in addition to previous episode). (LA tweet, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, "the title refers to more than one person or thing... There’s a bunch of things in episode 4 that are beyond redemption. It’s something that keeps coming up in that episode. There’s a bunch of big revelations in that episode, and some key discoveries. It’s an episode where the title pretty much touches on the different storylines to that episode.” (GreenArrowTV article, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- Oliver surprises TA with a new, upgraded Arrowcave. (Video promo for 404 in Pidank tumblr post, page 24 of Spoilers thread) S4, Episode 5: Haunted -- Production code: 404. Director: John Badham. Airdate: Nov. 4, 2015. (Production codes are in production order, not air date order.) -- 5th ep. synopsis: "When things take a turn for the worse with Sara (guest star Caity Lotz), Oliver (Stephen Amell) calls in a favor from an old friend who deals in the mystical, John Constantine (guest star Matt Ryan). John Badham directed the episode written by Brian Ford Sullivan & Oscar Balderrama (#404). Original airdate 11/4/2015." - Per MG, Billy Joel song for 5th episode would be a tie between: "Modern Woman", "Only the Good Die Young", "She's Always a Woman", "She's Right on Time" and "That's Not Her Style." (MG tumblr post, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- John Constantine (played by Matt Ryan) will appear in this episode. Per MG, he "will factor into the fallout from bringing Sara Lance (Caity Lotz) back to life via the Lazarus Pit." He will provide “critical support to Oliver (Stephen Amell) when arrows aren’t enough.” (SpoilerTV, TVInsider and EW articles, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- Per WM, Constantine's role was "born out of the storyline for Sara Lance. We needed someone to come in and help bring her back.". (IGN article, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- Constantine will be "key" in resurrecting Sara, whose presence will be met by "very different reactions" from her family. (TVLine article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- On Sara's resurrection via the LP, WM: “It’s a different thing than it was with Thea... To put it bluntly, she’s more dead. We needed somebody to come in and basically resurrect her and bring her soul back. We were really thrilled that we were able to get Matt Ryan. He’s the perfect character to do it.” (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- MG: "When you see him in the show, honestly it feels like we’re doing a Constantine/Arrow crossover, and it’s so exciting… We’re just really glad we got the chance to extend Matt Ryan’s run as Constantine by at least one more hour of television. I think you’ll see he fits very neatly into our universe. It never feels forced, it feels right. Stephen’s on screen vibe with Matt is just very natural, it’s as if these guys had been working together forever." (SuperHeroHype article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- On Constantine, WM: "Absolutely. He is coming in fully as who he was on the show. We’re getting wardrobe. We’re very excited to have him. He’s a tremendous actor. It’s so cool to have that cross-pollination. We are very lucky and DC was very generous letting us have him. It was born more out of the storyline for Sara Lance. We needed someone to come in and help bring her back. He felt like the most exciting possibility and we’re just thrilled to get him. He brings such a different element to the show." (IGN article, page 22 of Spoilers thread) -- MG: "It's really cool. We've got all the props, we've got all the original costumes, and we've got the original Matt Ryan. I think, for us, when we finished watching the first cut of it we were like, 'You know what, this feels like a legitimate crossover. This feels like we crossed over the other show, just the other show is not crossing over with us.'" (IGN article, page 22 of Spoilers thread, and ETonline article, page 22 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, they've already written and shot the Constantine episode, and Constantine doesn't die at the end. (GenderBiasedReviews article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- On the possibility of Constantine returning to the show, WM: "Right now, it really was -- it’s born out of necessity for this particular story. I think Mark [Pedowitz] said, and Mark was right, it is a one off and this is what we’re focusing on right now." (IGN article, page 22 of Spoilers thread) -- On TA's reaction to Constantine and the supernatural, MG: "If you go back and rewatch Season 3, [Oliver] refers to having some experience with the mystical. Oliver knows that the world is a larger place than most people think. So the team will have one reaction, but Oliver will have more of an experienced reaction." (TVInsider article, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, we "can expect some significant Constantine/Laurel interaction." (MG tumblr post, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- This episode wrapped shooting on August 26, 2015, and includes a scene with Quentin and Laurel next to the Lazarus Pit. (PB tweets and pics, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- Felicity and Constantine meet in this episode. (MG tumblr post, page 23 of Spoilers thread) -- Episode 4x05 is the episode for you if you want Oliver/Laurel scenes. (MG tumblr post, page 19 of Spoilers thread) [postED BEFORE PRODUCTION CODE NUMBER CHANGE] -- "There will be life after love for Thea, and it rears its 'handsome, charming, witty' head in Episode 5 in the form of Alex, a sharp and polished political consultant who will eventually get Speedy to utter these two very important words: 'Roy who?'" (TVLine article, page 18 of Spoilers thread) [postED BEFORE PRODUCTION CODE NUMBER CHANGE] -- Parker Young has been cast in the recurring role of Alex Davis, a clever, ambitious young man who begins working for Oliver and catches Thea's eye. (TV Guide article, page 19 of Spoilers thread; ETonline article, page 565 of Spoiler Discussion thread; and TVAfterDark article, page 71 of Starling City Times thread)

https://twitter.com/mguggenheim/status/656320524759363586 7:35 AM - 20 Oct 2015 https://twitter.com/amellywood/status/656478762142269442 https://twitter.com/warnerbrostv/status/656317105701126145 https://twitter.com/tbrick2/status/656314183693258752 https://twitter.com/AliAdler/status/656316092206419968

Someone posted this over in the Agent Carter forum and it's just so hilarious, I wanted to share it here (collection of AC dubsmash vids)... http://www.buzzfeed.com/sabrinabarr/25-times-the-cast-of-agent-carter-season-2-were-1qpyv#.lanbQD5dj

From TWD fan premiere at Madison Square Garden on Oct. 9, 2015 (whole cast - plus surprise guests, Emily Kinney, Jon Bernthal, Scott Wilson, Michael Rooker, and others)... The Walking Dead Fan Premiere Video - Season 6 Madison Square Garden Published on Oct 12, 2015, by JustinColbyTv The Walking Dead Season 6 FAN PREMIERE HIGHLIGHTS - TWD at Madison Square Garden MSG Published on Oct 11, 2015, by Jim Depaul AMC The Walking Dead Throws Awesome Party at Madison Square Garden Published on Oct 11, 2015, by CelebrityMagnet0105 Walking Dead Fan Premiere Q&A Madison Square Garden New York City Part 1 Published on Oct 11, 2015, by deadendust Walking Dead Fan Premiere Cast Q&A Madison Square Garden New York City Part 2 Published on Oct 11, 2015, by deadendust

All about the music behind the shows... ‘Arrow’ and ‘The Flash’ Soundtracks Review: How Blake Neely Infuses a Unique Sound Into Both Shows OCTOBER 19, 2015 http://fangirlish.com/arrow-and-the-flash-soundtracks-review-how-blake-neely-infuses-a-unique-sound-into-both-shows/ This was retweeted by Blake Neely... https://twitter.com/tvinsider/status/654771453397594112

Arrow Season 4: 8 Theories For Who’s In The Grave James Hunt 19 OCT 2015 http://whatculture.com/tv/arrow-season-4-8-theories-for-whos-in-the-grave.php

Thanks! Some more 402 reviews (the first one is the best of the below articles, imo)... Arrow “The Candidate” Review (Season 4, Episode 2) Jessica Breaux October 15, 2015 http://www.tvequals.com/2015/10/15/arrow-the-candidate-review-season-4-episode-2/ ARROW’S “THE CANDIDATE” (S4,EP2): THAT OLD DEVIL MAGIC Posted on October 16, 2015 by Kelly Konda http://weminoredinfilm.com/2015/10/16/arrows-the-candidate-s4ep2-that-old-devil-magic/ Arrow Season 4: 6 Things The Candidate Got Right (And 4 It Didn’t) James Hunt 16 OCT 2015 http://whatculture.com/tv/arrow-season-4-6-things-the-candidate-got-right-and-4-it-didnt.php Arrow 4×02 Review – The Candidate By: Alisha Bjorklund October 16, 2015 http://www.threeifbyspace.net/2015/10/arrow-4x02-review-the-candidate/#.ViVHm36rTIU Arrow Does the One Thing None of Us Thought It Would Do Esther Inglis-Arkell 10/15/15 1:25pm http://io9.com/arrow-does-the-one-thing-none-of-us-thought-it-would-do-1736660455 Same Geek Channel: ‘Arrow’ Episode 4.02 “The Candidate” Posted on 16 October, 2015 by Joey L. Mills http://geekdad.com/2015/10/arrow-4-02/ ‘Arrow’ Post-Show Analysis: Season 4, Episode 2: ‘The Candidate’ by CA Post-Show Team October 16, 2015 9:00 AM http://comicsalliance.com/arrow-season-4-episode-2-the-candidate/ ‘Arrow’ Review: “The Candidate” Posted on October 16, 2015 Nora Dominick ’17 http://emertainmentmonthly.com/2015/10/16/arrow-review-the-candidate/ Arrow, Ep. 4.02, “The Candidate” Randy Dankievitch October 15, 2015 http://www.popoptiq.com/arrow-the-candidate-review/ ARROW: "THE CANDIDATE" REVIEW BY JESSE SCHEDEEN 14 OCT 2015 http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/15/arrow-the-candidate-review

Halloween Costumes For Couples 2015: Dress Up As Favorite TV Characters From 'Empire,' 'Arrow,' 'Doctor Who' And More By Nicole Massabrook October 19 2015 2:07 PM EDT http://www.ibtimes.com/halloween-costumes-couples-2015-dress-favorite-tv-characters-empire-arrow-doctor-who-2146983

Hypable's best TV quotes of the week included the following Felicity line... Quote Hype: Top TV Quotes from ‘Arrow’, ‘The Muppets’, and more 2:15 pm, October 18, 2015 http://www.hypable.com/tv-quotes-ouat-arrow-muppet/3/

This GB quote is from a NY Times article about Supergirl, but it's just as applicable to Arrow and his other superhero shows... ‘Supergirl’ Leads a Wave of Female Heroes By DAVE ITZKOFFOCT. 16, 2015 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/18/arts/television/supergirl-leads-a-wave-of-female-heroes.html

‘Arrow': The Definitive Ranking of Every Character We Want Brought Back Via Lazarus Pit by kayti burt 7h ago http://www.mtv.com/news/2351840/arrow-lazarus-pit-resurrections/?xrs=_s.tw_news

DR's Guitar Hero challenge to be aired during Tuesday's Flash episode... Arrow | David Ramsey Preps For Battle | The CW Arrow | David Ramsey's Road to Victory | The CW

Arrow | Stunts: Green Arrow | The CW Published on Oct 16, 2015, by The CW Television Network

I'm going off-line for a few days, but hope to be back sometime next week.

From 402 The Candidate... Felicity to Curtis: "Let’s get one thing straight: The only person who is allowed to talk in sentence fragments around here is me."

402 reviews by jbuffyangel and JustAboutWrite... DARE TO BE DIFFERENT: THE CANDIDATE 4X02 REVIEW OCTOBER 15, 2015 http://jbuffyangel.tumblr.com/post/131211566048/dare-to-be-different-the-candidate-4x02-review Arrow 4x02 "The Candidate" (What Do You Stand For?) October 14, 2015 http://www.itsjustaboutwrite.com/2015/10/arrow-4x02-candidate-what-do-you-stand.html

402 reviews by Jenny Raftery (Vulture) and Robert Dougherty (TMN)... Arrow Recap: Electile Dysfunction By Jenny Raftery October 15, 2015 9:12 a.m. http://www.vulture.com/2015/10/arrow-recap-season-4-episode-2.html Arrow S4: E2 -- 'The Candidate' By Robert Dougherty October 15, 2015 08:38AM EDT http://www.themovienetwork.com/review/arrow-s4-e2-candidate Also, Laura Hurley's goodbye to Oliver's flashback wig... Arrow: R.I.P. Oliver's Wig BY LAURA HURLEY 9 HOURS AGO http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Arrow-R-I-P-Oliver-Wig-92357.html

Nothing spoilery... 'Arrow’ Co-Showrunner Wendy Mericle Explains Why People Still Want To Live In Star City BY: ASHLEY BURNS AND CHLOE SCHILDHAUSE 10.14.15 http://uproxx.com/tv/2015/10/arrow-season-four-wendy-mericle-star-city/

How convenient that Thea's craziness didn't overtly manifest itself until after Oliver was back in Star City to notice it. How convenient that Laurel and Thea don't have a heart-to-heart about what happened to Thea in NP until now, despite living together for 5 months. Did Laurel even ask Thea if she wanted to return to NP or just tell her? If Oliver had been the one to tell Thea he was taking her back to NP to help her, she would've rebelled and said she can make her own decisions - and he'd be criticized in-show for being bossy and controlling. Also, if there was a way to fix Thea simply by bringing her back to Nanda Parbat, wouldn't Oliver have thought of that or contacted Malcolm for more info? Instead, Oliver is shown leaving Thea alone to work it out. Incidentally, when Oliver was leaving, he kissed Thea on the cheek and he then passed Laurel and leaned in - who else thought he was going to kiss Laurel on the cheek as well? Instead, he just asked her to watch over Thea. But instead of watching over Thea, Laurel decided to take her to NP and try to do whatever to her, without the knowledge of Thea's brother. Sara's corpse should've been a lot more decomposed after a year. How is Laurel going to transport the corpse to Nanda Parbat? Are she and Thea going to put the corpse in a bag and carry it to the plane? (Oh wait, Laurel carried Sara's arrow-ridden body from the alley to the foundry all by herself last year because she's so strong, so she won't need Thea's help.) I'm assuming they're going to hire a private charter plane with a discreet pilot, since TA's only pilot, Oliver, is out of the loop. I'm also assuming that Thea's paying for the plane (with her inherited Malcolm funds) since I don't think an ADA's salary could afford it. They can't ask Felicity for a PT plane because Felicity would tell Oliver, unless they lie about the destination (but the pilot would have to file a flight plan). The only other alternative would be Laurel contacting Nyssa or Malcolm, and asking one of them to send a LOA aircraft to get them - but I don't know why either would do that. Also, I believe there was a spoiler that Loved Lonnie Machin as Anarky. I thought his stunt fighting sequence with Oliver was pretty flawless. If he had a stunt double, I couldn't spot it. I call B.S. on Lonnie beating down Oliver, only to get beat down by the less trained Thea. I'm guessing that Oliver's fighting not to kill the guy, which limits what he can do since he's been trained to kill. I didn't quite understand DD's upset over Lonnie's actions, although I loved his line about order, discipline versus anarchy. Lonnie's kidnapping the Danforth daughter was messy? But blowing up a train and train station isn't? The show is equating the CEO job with ownership of the company (eye roll). Oliver lost his CEO position and somehow loses QC. Felicity inherits PT and becomes its CEO. Loved Curtis and his interactions with Felicity. Also loved her line about how she's the only one who gets to speak in fragments. Of course, I loved the Oliver & Felicity talking together as a mini-team scenes - and a new fern! I can now believe that Oliver can get elected Mayor, despite his lack of qualifications and experience. Everyone else is too scared to run. I do like and understand his motivation. Wow - Elysia Rotaru's appearance was practically a cameo - and we still don't know her name. Here's how they'll make Laurel heroic again (pure speculation) - next episode, we find out that the LP requires a life for a life in order to bring back someone who's been dead-dead for over a year. Then Laurel will heroically offer her own life, but of course something will happen and someone else ends up being sacrificed instead (Nyssa?).

Last season Oliver was lying and keeping secrets from the rest of TA. This season it looks like the rest of TA is lying and keeping secrets from him, while he's being honest with everyone. I'm a little confused about when we find out about DD's something that he loves. In the Eonline interview, NM says that we'll see something that DD does love about a third of the way through the season. But later in that same interview, NM says, "What's happening next week between me and Arrow, it's a massive spike between two of us. He messes with something that I actually love, and I'm going to break every limb in his body, and it sets up the scene which makes you realize, OK, Damien Darhk actually has, underneath all that—like the Grinch, whose heart was two times too small—his heart's probably 20 times too small, but there's some part in there underneath all that dark soul, and I'm so looking forward to next week." Next week's episode is 403 - I don't think that's a third of the way through the season.

My fanwank has changed since WM said something about how, in the past, Oliver's always said "I can't be in love and be the Arrow at the same time," while current Oliver is going to try to do both. (Official "A Sneak Peek at Arrow Season 4" video, page 21 of Spoilers thread). Now I think he meant that, "because of the life I lead," he can't be with someone he could fall in love with, but used the words "really care about" instead. He cared about and loved Sara, but he wasn't in love with her. However, he recognized that he could fall in love with Felicity if he let himself.