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'Agent Carter' Sets 'Resurrection' Reunion With Kurtwood Smith (Exclusive) OCTOBER 22, 2015 1:00pm PT by Lesley Goldberg http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/agent-carter-season-two-kurtwood-833978 Ken Marino Joins Season 2 Cast of ‘Marvel’s Agent Carter’ (EXCLUSIVE) NOVEMBER 4, 2015 | 12:00PM PT Elizabeth Wagmeister http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/ken-marino-agent-carter-marvel-cast-1201632853/

https://twitter.com/mguggenheim/status/662302040220110848

Here's one review that appears to be on Laurel's side and also brings up the possibility of a GA/BC romantic pairing... Same Geek Channel: ‘Arrow’ Episode 4.05 “Haunted” Posted on 6 November, 2015 by Joey L. Mills http://geekdad.com/2015/11/sgc-arrow-4-05/

About that dead peacock feather... Arrow Quietly Took A Shot At NBC During The Constantine Episode BY ADAM HOLMES 16 HOURS AGO http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Arrow-Quietly-Took-Shot-NBC-During-Constantine-Episode-97227.html 3 Big Reasons Constantine Needs To Come Back To Arrow BY LAURA HURLEY YESTERDAY http://www.cinemablend.com/television/3-Big-Reasons-Constantine-Needs-Come-Back-Arrow-97057.html Also, check out Laura Hurley's latest joke tweets (they're hilarious!)... https://twitter.com/lah9891

Ashley's win was the biggest non-surprise in PR history. On one of last night's entertainment news shows (airing prior to PR), there was a lengthy interview with Ashley - a "Project Runway finalist" - focusing on her plus-size fashion line. Right then and there, I knew that she would win and didn't bother watching the show. Incidentally, in next week's TV Guide, there's an article on Project Runway Junior in which Tim Gunn throws shade on Season 14. When asked why he decided to sign up for the spinoff, he said: "I will tell you, I thought 'I don't know if I can sustain this.' But I'm so happy I did it because I hated everything about Season 14 of Runway. Junior was this tremendous antidote to that. It was so uplifting and inspiring."

JustAboutWrite's review is quite lengthy (I've only quoted portions, so you may want to read the whole article)... Arrow 4x05 "Haunted" (Something's Made Your Eyes Go Cold) 6:00 PM http://www.itsjustaboutwrite.com/2015/11/arrow-4x05-haunted-somethings-made-your.html

Questions and WTF moments from WhatCulture... Arrow Season 4: 12 Questions We're Asking After 'Haunted' Hello, John Constantine! 5 Nov 2015 James Hunt http://whatculture.com/tv/arrow-season-4-12-questions-were-asking-after-haunted.php Arrow Season 4: 15 WTF Moments From 'Haunted' 6 Nov 2015 Andrew Pollard http://whatculture.com/tv/arrow-season-4-15-wtf-moments-from-haunted.php

Before 405 aired, MG said he did not think the leak would affect their ratings (warning - rest of article contains spoilery info)... http://deadline.com/2015/11/arrow-constantine-spoilers-flash-marc-guggenheim-matt-ryan-legends-of-tomorrow-batman-1201606994/

Tell me this doesn't look like two BC cosplayers...

io9 reviewer thought that Alex was the best character in 405 (this review is pretty funny)... This Arrow Episode Is Filled with Magic, and John Constantine Is Just One Part of It Esther Inglis-Arkell 11/05/15 10:00am http://io9.com/this-arrow-episode-is-filled-with-magic-and-john-const-1740715003

Yahoo gave 405 a positive review and thought that Constantine was worked into the show really well... 'Arrow' Recap: John Constantine Is the Godfather of Soul Robert Chan November 4, 2015 https://www.yahoo.com/tv/arrow-recap-haunted-john-constantine-matt-ryan-025527659.html

Arrow, Ep. 4.05, “Haunted” Randy Dankievitch November 5, 2015 http://www.popoptiq.com/arrow-haunted-review/

Collider gave 405 a mixed review... ‘Arrow’ Recap: “Haunted” – Constantine Conjures up a Crossover BY DAVE TRUMBORE 12 HOURS AGO http://collider.com/arrow-recap-haunted-season-4-episode-5/

Den of Geek reviewer gave 405 a score of 3/5 (and didn't mention Laurel at all)... Arrow: Haunted review Mike Cecchini 11/4/2015 at 9:00PM http://www.denofgeek.us/tv/arrow/250251/arrow-haunted-review

IGN had a mixed review but overall thought 405 "delivered a memorable team-up adventure"... ARROW: "HAUNTED" REVIEW JESSE SCHEDEEN 4 NOV 2015 http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/11/05/arrow-haunted-review?utm_source=IGN%20hub%20page&utm_medium=TV&utm_content=6&utm_campaign=Blogroll

The EW review is also mostly a recap of 405... 'Haunted' Arrow Season 4, Ep. 5 | Aired Nov 04 Posted November 4 2015 — 9:00 PM EST BY JONATHON DORNBUSH http://www.ew.com/recap/arrow-season-4-episode-5

The Forbes reviewer mostly recapped what happened in 405 with almost zero analysis - but at least he's happy with S4 so far... 'Arrow' Season 4, Episode 5 Review: 'Haunted' Erik Kain NOV 4, 2015 @ 09:08 PM http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2015/11/04/arrow-season-4-episode-5-review-haunted/

Robert Dougherty gave 405 a score of 6/10... Arrow S4: E5 -- 'Haunted' By Robert Dougherty November 05, 2015 08:55AM EST http://www.themovienetwork.com/review/arrow-s4-e5-haunted

Vulture review of 405... Arrow Recap: No Judgment By Jenny Raftery November 5, 2015 8:29 a.m http://www.vulture.com/2015/11/arrow-recap-season-4-episode-5.html

Loved Constantine. Loved Diggle and Quentin working together. Loved the "This is your overlord, Felicity Smoak" line. Loved Oliver & Felicity sitting on the sofa just talking and clasping hands. Loved Curtis' manic energy. Loved Sara's beatdown of everything in her path. The Nanda Parbat sequence of fighting phantom LOA members and pulling Sara out of the LP was clunky and looked a bit silly. I never watched Constantine so I don't know what the guy's fighting skills are supposed to be, but having him fight with a sword seemed like a 'thank you' to MR by giving him some fun stunts. The several Laurel speeches that I believe were meant to make us feel that she was a sympathetic victim and understand her pain would've been more effective if her accusations had any merit - and if I hadn't watched the past 3+ seasons. For example (source): Laurel's accusations: (1) Oliver is a hypocrite because he did whatever he could to save Thea and objects to her doing the same to save Sara; (2) Oliver has never seen her as an equal because he never told her that he was the Arrow, because of his attitude toward her becoming the BC, and because he never told her there was a way to save Sara; (3) Oliver never considered what she was going through; and (4) Oliver doesn't give a damn about the Lance family, while Laurel has always loved the Queen family. I'm going to skip over (1), because that's been discussed ad nauseum in this forum already (Thea wasn't dead and could be saved, while Sara couldn't be saved because she had already died so it was a matter of resurrecting her),* and (3), because the self-centeredness of that statement by Laurel is obvious. (* Oliver has been a hypocrite in other ways, but not in this matter - the one she's calling him out on - imo.) Regarding (2), when it comes to fighting skills, Laurel is not Oliver's equal. She's had about one year's worth of training, while he's had several years of intensive training. His objection to her fighting was because he didn't want to see her get hurt. As for not telling her he was the Arrow, when he returned to Starling City, she was extremely hostile to him and later actively hunted him down as the vigilante; he was suffering from PTSD and closed off. He never told his mother, Moira, that he was the vigilante either, and I'm sure he considers her an equal. As for not telling her there was a way to save Sara, Oliver didn't think the LP could be used to resurrect someone who's been dead and buried a year. Regarding (4), Laurel's family consists largely of Quentin and Sara (forget about Dinah, the EPs have). I doubt that Laurel is referring to Oliver's feelings for Quentin in this instance (although he has shown care for Quentin in the past), so she's really talking about Oliver not caring enough about Sara to use the LP to save her. Aside from the irony(?) that it was too much love for Sara that led Oliver to sister-swap a few times in the past, Laurel's accusation is ridiculous. Sara's beloved, Nyssa, never asked Ra's to use the LP to bring Sara back and objected to Laurel doing so. Does that mean Nyssa didn't give a damn about Sara? And we have seen ample evidence of Oliver caring for both Laurel and Sara, as well as Quentin, in the past. (Also remember that, last season, Oliver told Quentin that he has always loved the Lance family, and Quentin punched him.) Maybe the hidden meaning behind this accusation by Laurel is that she thinks Oliver doesn't give enough of a damn about her.* (* Laurel saying that she has always loved Oliver's family just made me think of the flashback where Laurel was dreaming of becoming Mrs. Oliver Queen and joining the Queen family.) I feel like Laurel talking at Oliver and Oliver just passively taking it and then appeasing her is something that happened a lot back when they were dating. I think Laurel has finally realized that she doesn't know Oliver to his bones. No longer in denial, she has moved on to anger. Laurel's anger at Oliver all boils down to the fact that she's no longer the Most Important Person In the World to him. She's not as close to him as she used to be (and wants to be). She's not as trusted by him as she used to be (and wants to be). She's not as loved by him as she used to be (and wants to be). Finally, if Constantine needed two people who would bring out the best in Sara, they should've picked Quentin and Felicity. Instead, they went with Oliver and Laurel - two people who should remind Sara of a lot of the bad things that happened to her in life (sisterly betrayal on both sides, sister-swapping, 'dying' in the shipwreck, ending up a League assassin). Instead, they went with the masks. P.S. Thea said to Oliver "you have been in love with Laurel and Sara", therefore putting the two sisters in the same category. Personally, I don't believe he was in love with either sister, but did love them as far as it was possible for him to love as either cheating, pre-island Ollie or still-recovering-from-PTSD, post-island Oliver. I just think that Thea has this romanticized view of her beloved brother being in love with two women in order to justify his cheating on one sister with the other sister.

Hopes aside, I still don't think it's Laurel in the grave because she's the Black Canary and I can't see DC Comics approving that. Having just watched those promos for next week, I have to say that watching Sara and Laurel side-by-side in similar BC costumes just highlights the SWF aspect of Laurel's becoming BC - it also looks like they're cosplayers at a comic-con.

Actually, the eye roll was at the obviousness of the promotion. I thought, it's no coincidence that DC Comics is using a BC banner pic when we're in the middle of a Canary arc storyline.

Check out DC Comics' current twitter banner pic (eye roll)... https://twitter.com/DCComics

FYI, I've posted some nice EBR mentions in Brooklyn reviews in the Arrow Stars in Other Roles thread (page 14)... https://twitter.com/EmilyBett/status/662007956561600517

Check out the animated gif in the fan comments (posted by Wing Commander Roro) ... https://twitter.com/amellywood/status/661950003074629632