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Collider is doing an Arrow After-Show now (I haven't watched them yet, so I have no idea if they're any good).. Arrow Recap & Review - Season 4 Episode 4 "Beyond Redemption" Arrow Recap and Review - Season 4 Episode 3 "Restoration" Arrow Recap and Review Season 4 Episode 2 "The Candidate" Arrow Recap Show Season 4 Episode 1 "Green Arrow" ETA: Okay, I've now watched two of these videos, and I won't be posting their after show videos again. These reviewers are like children.

I'm sorry, but the Canary Cry just looks stupid (no matter who does it). Maybe it works great in the comics, but for the tv show, they should've just had Laurel use Sara's sonic device... (source)

Nice mention of the Green Arrow... Which superheroes could the Yankees be for Halloween? 31 Oct, 2015 in Editorial by Delia Enriquez http://bronxbaseballdaily.com/2015/10/which-superheroes-could-the-yankees-be-for-halloween/

Laura Hurley's "I have kidnapped you!" joke tweets...

Laura Hurley split her review of 404 into two parts... Arrow S04E04: What worked and what didn't with "Beyond Redemption" Laura Hurley October 31, 2015 11:34 AM MST http://www.examiner.com/article/arrow-s04e04-what-worked-and-what-didn-t-with-beyond-redemption Arrow S04E04: What needs to happen next after "Beyond Redemption" Laura Hurley October 31, 2015 11:55 AM MST http://www.examiner.com/article/arrow-s04e04-what-needs-to-happen-next-after-beyond-redemption Also, here's a "deleted scene" from Hurley's 404 review (that discusses Felicity's delayed reaction to Ray's death): http://laurawritesabout.tumblr.com/post/132330852811/emily-better-rickards-destroyed-me-with-her

Cross-posting this here for archival purposes (in case we ever need to find it again)...

https://twitter.com/GBerlanti/status/660493059193372672

If this new "warmth" between Oliver and Laurel leads to Oliver shedding a tear over Laurel's grave, then go for it, show. ;)

I guess I've been reading too many reviews of superhero shows (including Arrow). Initially I thought that episodes that were light on action/stunts and heavy on personal drama were complained about. Now, however - esp. after reading reviews about the latest Arrow episode focusing on Quentin - I believe that only romantic drama is the thing causes complaints. "Beyond Redemption" had several emotion-laden scenes, including a teary scene where Quentin breaks down. Yet, while reviewers were mixed as to whether this was the best or the worst episode of S4, they universally loved the Quentin story. If the episode had focused on the relationship between Oliver and Felicity, there would've been complaints of too much romantic melodrama and get back to the action. Anyway, I've noticed that it's only the superhero's romantic relationship that gets flak, but that it's fine if the focus is on the hero's relationship with his parent or paternal figure, his mentor, his sibling, his best friend, etc. The latest AoS episode featuring Simmons did involve use of the hot guy on alien planet cliche and there's been lots of flak about that. (Since it's a Whedon show, I have my suspicions that things are not what they seem.) I've even read some stuff about The Flash being better than Arrow because it's backed off of the Barry-Iris romance, plus kudos to Barry's relationships with his real father and his father figure Joe. I have yet to see anything original on any TV show - they all use cliches and tropes. It's all a question of how well they execute it. Love is part of life. To make a superhero asexual, or to have a superhero develop deep relationships with everyone in his life except a romantic partner, is ridiculous. Love is often messy - hence, unrequited love, the dreaded love triangle, etc. It's all how the show handles it. Yes, I may be overreacting or overgeneralizing - but this is the bitterness thread and I'm going by my gut reaction. It just seems to me that as soon as a hint of romance (or sex, for that matter) enters the plot of a superhero show, there's this immediate reaction of 'oh no, it's like a CW romantic melodrama!' But the show can spend tons of time on the hero's relationships with his father or best friend, and it's all good.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Round Table: Alien World Hook Up Henry A. Otero at October 30, 2015 3:30 pm http://www.tvfanatic.com/2015/10/agents-of-shield-round-table-alien-world-hook-up/

This is one person's very detailed review of the S3 Blu-ray (including a review of the Extras)... Arrow: Season 3 (Blu-ray) Review by Adam Tyner | posted October 31, 2015 | http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/68701/arrow-season-3-blu-ray/

From Forbes reviewer, Erik Kain (will wonders never cease?)... In Season 4 'Arrow' Finally Starts To Shine Again Erik Kain OCT 30, 2015 @ 01:06 PM http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2015/10/30/in-season-4-arrow-finally-starts-to-shine-again/

No. There was that big 'welcome home' party for Sara when she turned up alive (the first time).

On Arrow, Everyone is So Disappointed With Everyone Else Esther Inglis-Arkell 10/29/15 3:20pm http://io9.com/on-arrow-everyone-is-so-disappointed-with-everyone-els-1739439266

This is really cool (again amazed at fan talent)... Source: http://glamorous-enterlude.tumblr.com/post/128418595648/arrow-season-4

Good interview with PB (nothing much spoilery now)... Arrow Season 4: Paul Blackthorne Discusses Lance’s Darhk Turn By Merrill Barr 10.29.2015 http://screenrant.com/arrow-season-4-paul-blackthorne-interview-oliver-mayor/

ARROW’S “BEYOND REDEMPTION” (S4,EP4): 6 RANDOM OBSERVATIONS Posted on October 30, 2015 by Kelly Konda http://weminoredinfilm.com/2015/10/30/arrows-beyond-redemption-s4ep4-6-random-observations/

Some amusing tweets from AC (Anarky) recently... https://twitter.com/Alex8Calvert And here's one from RR (Conklin)... https://twitter.com/RyRobbins/status/659602808224661504 ER with LA... https://twitter.com/elysiarotaru/status/659585691769155584

https://twitter.com/PaulBlackthorne/status/659528673251319808

Burlingame is Senior Staff Writer for ComicBook.com... https://twitter.com/russburlingame/status/659806592653787136

The only reason they didn't change Sara's clothes is because TIIC wanted to keep her in a strapless, cleavage-baring bustier (skimpy clothes - the very definition of fan service).

This is pure speculation, but I think the EPs' original plan for S3 was to kill off Sara permanently, use the LP to heal Oliver's near-mortal sword wound, and when Oliver made Malcolm the new Ra's, have Nyssa destroy the LP in anger at the end of S3. But after the unexpectedly strong fan backlash over Sara's death and the tepid response to the introduction of Ray Palmer, they decided to bring Sara back and build the spinoff around her (and Ray). So the LP resurrection/destruction was delayed to S4 and used for Sara. Instead, in S3, Oliver was healed using "magic herbs" - and the rest of the S3 storyline was quickly revised. Now some bitterness. So I guess it's okay for an Arrow episode to focus on a personal relationship between Oliver and another character - a relationship that's full of angst and drama, and to have several scenes that are emotional, including one where the character breaks down and cries... so long as that relationship is paternal, fraternal, familial or platonic (anything but romantic).

From Cerone (Constantine EP/writer)... https://twitter.com/DanielVCerone/status/660133169211928576

This whole article is great (I could only quote excerpts, so you may want to read the rest of this article)... Why ‘The Flash’ And ‘Arrow’ Are What Young Science Nerds Have Been Looking For "Arrow" and "The Flash" sure love their scientists, and that could have far reaching implications for the kids who might become scientists themselves. by victoria mcnally 10/28/2015 http://www.mtv.com/news/2355893/flash-arrow-science-nerds/?xrs=_s.tw_news

Now all this talk of alternate universes has me thinking of Stargate SG-1, where in an alternate reality O'Neill and Carter were a couple (which they weren't in our reality).