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[Morbs]

The word "committed" is now avoided in discussing suicide because it has religious and legal undertones.

[backformore]

Elisabeth and her fellow right wingers are so conditioned to hate the other team that when one of their own does something so horrific they can't possibly explain it, excuse it, blame it on someone else they don't know what to do.  If this was some "liberal" family Fox News would be camped outside their door and interviewing everyone who ever had a conversation with them.  Elisabeth would be screaming "what about the children?"  "where were the parents?"  But because it is a family she considers to be "on her side" she can only pick on the fact information was released. 

well, if you want to truly understand Bitsy and her right-wingers, see how the Duggar discussion is derailed by saying that Liberals support Lena Dunham and Caitlyn Jenner: http://www.newshounds.us/howard_kurtz_likens_duggar_criticisms_to_attacks_on_caitlyn_jenner_060415

especially this: 

 

 

“At that time, many on the right, went after her and many on the left defended her,” Kelly continued. “I mean, is there sort of nothing that we can keep our politics out of? …Why must it go to the red/blue place every time?”

Kurtz replied, “Because we live in such a polarized media and political culture that that becomes more important than anything else. …It saddens me.”

And yet the two of them work for a news network whose entire mission plan revolves around polarizing and dividing red and blue.

It reminds me of Bitsy, when anyone said ANYTHING critical of sarah palin, would wail "What about Obama?"  

Edited June 8, 2015 by backformore

[GHScorpiosRule]

The word "committed" is now avoided in discussing suicide because it has religious and legal undertones.

 

Sorry. I didn't know that.

[springtime]

Rosie had been in touch with Kalief as it was the week of his birthday

https://www.rosie.com/

yesterday at 11:03
he texted me

K – Srry rosie i need sum time to myself

R – ok no problem !!! be well

K – Mental struggles thanks for understandin

R- totally get it – i am a text away – if u need anything – peace and i love u

an hour later he was gone
i wished i called instead of texting
i wish i could soothe his fears
calm his terrorized brain

my thoughts are with her as well as his Mom 

[Morgalisa]

That made me cry. Love, love Rosie and miss her humanity and compassion on The View.

[Cosmocrush]

The word "committed" is now avoided in discussing suicide because it has religious and legal undertones.

Thank you Morbs.  I did not know that either.    In fact, I find out about more things on these threads than on this stupid show's Lame Topics 'conversations.'  

[GHScorpiosRule]

Thank you Morbs.  I did not know that either.    In fact, I find out about more things on these threads than on this stupid show's Lame Topics 'conversations.'  

 

Folks that write articles about suicide should also get up to speed. The author of the piece that Morbs linked used the word "committed."

[Morbs]

Man, it's pretty heartbreaking Rosie was texting him hours before.  I also wonder if she was the one who was paying his tuition, but since his story also touched so many and even Jay Z wanted to meet him it could have been anyone.  I'm always drawn toward stories of suicides, so I've noticed how careful they are with how they write about it, trying not to stigmatize it but also trying not to glamorize it or encourage it.  Sometimes I think people write "died by suicide" which is even more awkward than "completed".

Edited June 9, 2015 by Morbs

[MatchaLove]

That made me cry. Love, love Rosie and miss her humanity and compassion on The View.

Yes.  Love and compassion need to be front and center.  I think, whether they/we realize it out loud, need more of that.  

Edited June 9, 2015 by MatchaLove

[TribbleTrouble]

Folks that write articles about suicide should also get up to speed. The author of the piece that Morbs linked used the word "committed."

Well, yes and no. That particular phrasing has been in use by some for at least a decade or more, but professional journalists and copy editors don't like the term because it's not strictly accurate in a journalistic context. That's why it hasn't caught on in the media or in common usage and probably isn't likely to anytime soon. My take is that, outside its valid use in medical literature, the expression “completed suicide” is being used as a euphemism by some who feel there’s more of a stigma attached to saying that someone “committed suicide.” In a non-technical context, “completed suicide” is redundant. Suicide is a word like murder; the single word says it all. There can be nothing incomplete about a suicide. It is an accomplished act. One can speak of “a failed suicide attempt.” Once the act has been committed, it’s a suicide. Personally I find "died by suicide" to be more objective and less judgmental (albeit a little awkward to the ear), and I see that terminology used in the media quite a bit instead of "committed." The American Foundation for Suicide Prevention also suggests using "died by suicide" rather than "committed." And, of course, terms like "successful" suicide should never be used.

From a 10-year-old journalism blog regarding the use of 'completed' suicide:

http://commonsensej.blogspot.com/2005/10/completed-suicide.html?m=1

[CathinAZ]

Read today about raven's hire as a co-host. Out of curiosity I checked sherri's Twitter which she posts to regularly to keep her name out there and Twitter numbers up. Twitter = free PR for celebs. Interestingly, Sherrie did not mention it or offer public congrats to Raven. I hope she sent private congrats to her - hopefully she learned that some things are not appropriate for Twitter and are more sincere done privately . . .i still can't get over that she tweeted condolences to Whoopi when her brother passed. So tacky!

[mbutterfly]

Virtually every single sports team (football, baseball, basketball) are named for animals or nouns.  Indians and Redskins stand out as racial.  Think about it, Elisabeth.  She makes my flesh crawl at the best of times.  

Never going to defend Elizabeth, but two of my grandchildren attend a public school system in which the football team is the "Fighting Quakers." It's a community founded by the Quakers and, I believe, the local Friends Meetings enjoy the name. I know it is different, it just make me think there are exceptions. 

[backformore]

Bitsy just keeps on going with her quest to make all schools conform to wacky out-moded ideas. 
I cannot imagine why Hasselbeck takes on such a ridiculous non-issue.  A high school  decides to stop having white for girls, blue for boys at graduation, and have all students wear blue - BECAUSE IT"S WHAT THE STUDENTS WANT.  And Bitsy has to entertain a guest moaning about "political correctness". 
Because, of course, it has to be connected to the idea that gay and transgender students are uncomfortable with choosing . 
 
http://www.newshounds.us/20150611_elisabeth_hasselbeck_laments_unisex_graduation_robes

 

(eta -   Merriebreeze and I are posting together!) 

of all the stupid crusades Eliz has taken on, this one is indeed the funniest.   WHY does she care?  Why is it important that girls wear white gowns to graduation? 

As the voice of 1950's America, Fox & Friends loves tradition and believes that anybody who doesn't is a tool of the Marxist/feminist/gay agenda. Elisabeth Hasselbeck and her Fox & Friends guest demonstrated this retro thinking when they dissed schools that have abandoned sacred tradition to allow gender neutral graduation robes.

Poor Elisabeth just couldn't seem to get her head around the fact that students support this. She played video of rabble rousing students who said that that she separation of students, by gender, is unnecessary and insensitive. She then read a statement from a student advocacy group who say that students shouldn't have to choose a color if they are uncomfortable doing so. As she spoke, the banner provided the Fox agitprop message that this is a bad thing: "Tradition Trounced."

Edited June 12, 2015 by backformore

[merriebreeze]

kudos backformore. Need to delete my post

[springtime]

Sherri tweeted congratulations to Raven today  (It is buried among discussion about butt implants)

 

Is anything private these days?

[backformore]

kudos backformore. Need to delete my post

No need!  I thought it was funny that we were both posting the same link at the same time.   I love that Newhounds site, especially their motto "we watch Fox News so you don't have to" 

And the stuff that Bitsy gets upset about are hilarious!  She seems severely outraged over this!  

Edited June 11, 2015 by backformore

[merriebreeze]

Only outraged because someone told her to be.

Edited June 11, 2015 by merriebreeze

[Cosmocrush]

Read today about raven's hire as a co-host. Out of curiosity I checked sherri's Twitter which she posts to regularly to keep her name out there and Twitter numbers up. Twitter = free PR for celebs. Interestingly, Sherrie did not mention it or offer public congrats to Raven. I hope she sent private congrats to her - hopefully she learned that some things are not appropriate for Twitter and are more sincere done privately . . .i still can't get over that she tweeted condolences to Whoopi when her brother passed. So tacky!

Well, Sherri is the definition of  tacky so there's that.   I didn't know she tweeted her condolences though.  Hasn't she heard that Whoopi doesn't read tweets or emails [as in,"Don't tweet me, I don't care!"] 

 

I could be wrong and I hope I am, but Sherri's tweets, including condolences, aren't ever really about anyone but herself.  In that example it's not about sending condolences to Whoopi but for all her Twitter followers to see that she sent condolences.  Just like Congrats to Raven has nothing to do with congratulating Raven but about Sherri looking like she is congratulating Raven. 

[CathinAZ]

CosmoCrush, I agree. I went and looked for her tweet and here it is:

Sherri Shepherd ‏@SherriEShepherd May 13

Much love and prayer to @WhoopiGoldberg as you deal with the tragic loss of your brother Clyde. He and your mom understood you so well #RIP

What is particularly tacky is that U.S. news media and The View had been particularly protective of Whoopi and discrete saying only she was off for a "family emergency". British tabloids had published the reason, her brother's death around May 12 but on the 13, when Sheerie posted, the U.S. news media was still being fairly sensitive about posting - but not Sherrie!

(While checking her Twitter to find the post, I noticed several pictures of herself she posted. I realize she is probably an emotional wreck with her court issues, divorce, etc. but it is kind of sad to see that she has gained a lot of weight back)

[mbutterfly]

Bitsy just keeps on going with her quest to make all schools conform to wacky out-moded ideas. 

I cannot imagine why Hasselbeck takes on such a ridiculous non-issue.  A high school  decides to stop having white for girls, blue for boys at graduation, and have all students wear blue - BECAUSE IT"S WHAT THE STUDENTS WANT.  And Bitsy has to entertain a guest moaning about "political correctness". 

Because, of course, it has to be connected to the idea that gay and transgender students are uncomfortable with choosing . 

 

http://www.newshounds.us/20150611_elisabeth_hasselbeck_laments_unisex_graduation_robes

 

(eta -   Merriebreeze and I are posting together!) 

of all the stupid crusades Eliz has taken on, this one is indeed the funniest.   WHY does she care?  Why is it important that girls wear white gowns to graduation? 

I don't get this because neither my high school not the one my children attended had gender specific gowns. There was a gown color and everybody wore it. Since I was in one city and they were in a different town, I can't think we were unique. 

[springtime]

I wish someone would help Sherri tweet- She seems to choose a topic a day and tweets nonstop about it

 

Her dogs, her plans for butt enhancement and today its the NAACP story of Rachel Dolezal  

 

A blog would be a better fit her writing style! 

Edited June 12, 2015 by springtime

[TribbleTrouble]

I don't get this because neither my high school not the one my children attended had gender specific gowns. There was a gown color and everybody wore it. Since I was in one city and they were in a different town, I can't think we were unique.

I agree, I've never heard of gender specific graduation gowns either. It's usually one color, often a school color, and everybody has the same thing except maybe for valedictorian etc. I'm on the West Coast. Maybe it's a regional tradition? Odd. But Bitsy and her Fox friends being ignorant asses about it? Yeah, must be a day with a Y in it....

[LoveIsJoy]

It has to be regional then. I've lived in 3 states (midwest) and in each city where I attended graduations, they had the same scenario...school colors, girls wear the lighter and boys wear the darker. My daughter had white and the fellas were blue; my niece in red/guys in black; niece #2 gold/boys in green. It's really visually pleasing to see them walk in separate colors and then merge.

[GHScorpiosRule]

East Coast here: high school, girls wore a light blue, the guys a dark blue. (MD). 

[ginger90]

PA here, 3 graduates, same school, boys wore blue, girls white. I never gave it a thought, lol.

[RogerFromOhio]

Northwest Ohio....  we all wore blue

[backformore]

The thing is, it does not matter if graduates wear the same color or gender specific colors. Students at a school petitioned to have all graduates wear the same graduation gowns. Why Bitsy decided to have a snit about it, throwing around phrases like "PC Police", is a mystery. Mind your own business, Bitsy!

[springtime]

I would think that Sherri could and would inform Wendy Williams directly with this info (rather than tweet!)

Sherri Shepherd   

Fans- Please tell Wendy @WendyWilliams that her Cane Corso is pronounced Kah-Nay Corso. it's an Italian mastiff- hence the Italian name! :O)

Edited June 15, 2015 by springtime

[susieq147]

Sherri took the time to tweet that?  Wow, WTF cares?

[backformore]

I don't recall Sherri pronouncing it that way.  

And maybe Wendy Williams could tweet back "could someone tell @Sherri Shepherd that she grew up in a ritzy suburb of Chicago, NOT the projects, so she can let go of the fake ghetto accent?  "

[Former Nun]

Graduation gowns: I checked some stock photos online and the majority of pictures show students wearing the same color...boy or girl. Sad day when that's what Mrs. Hasselbeck decides to snit about.

[CathinAZ]

Arizona, school colors purple and white, graduated in the 70s, all students wore purple head-to-toe and still do at graduations.

[ginger90]

Some may recall it being mentioned that Sherri was going to be doing a cooking type show. Well here you go:

Sherri Shepherd ‏@SherriEShepherd  · 17h17 hours ago 

Sherri Shepherd retweeted Debbie H
New projects: @WoodlawnMovie 9/15; my first dramatic film lead
RideAlong2 1/16
Holy & Hungry - Cooking Channel 8/15

 

Holy and Hungry??? Oh my!

[Dissy]

 

Holy & Hungry - Cooking Channel 8/15

 

Holy and Hungry??? Oh my!

Sounds like a train wreck!  I'm in. Every time I see her eat, I lose my appetite. Should be great for my diet!

[susieq147]

 

 

Sherri Shepherd ‏@SherriEShepherd  · 21h21 hours ago 

Sherri Shepherd retweeted Megan Ridgway

Thank you!!!! I am #transphat

Yes I am screaming it to the world I AM TRANSPHAT! 

Love being a big girl!

 

 

 

So now Sherri likes being heavy?  Since when?  Probably since she gained weight again.

 

But I am willing to bet if some weight loss company offered her an endorsement deal she would jump on it.

[backformore]

Transphat? WTF does that mean?

Am I the only one who's thinking the show is going to end up to be more appropriately named "Holy Hungry and HORNY"?

[susieq147]

Transphat? WTF does that mean?

 

 

It hasn't made it into the Urban Dictionary so until it does it's just a made up word to me.

 

Sherri is just an idiot. She sees something and thinks she has to try it, or be it, or like it or whatever it.  She never seems to have an original thought.

[Morgalisa]

I think people who think it is funny to attach "trans" on to everything are making a mockery of the legitimate transgender struggle and they need to stop it.

[Dissy]

 

I think people who think it is funny to attach "trans" on to everything are making a mockery of the legitimate transgender struggle and they need to stop it.

I agree, Morgalisa. I hope it doesn't become like the "gate" trend!

[backformore]

I think people who think it is funny to attach "trans" on to everything are making a mockery of the legitimate transgender struggle and they need to stop it.

I'm coming out as trans-generational.  

 

 I'm a young person stuck in an old person's body. 

 

(don't take it as offensive, I am totally joking, I actually agree that using the "trans" that way is dumb and disrespectful to people actually struggling) 

Edited June 18, 2015 by backformore

[Former Nun]

If Sherri truly does get a cook-ack-ack-ack-ing show, PLEEZE let us post!

[springtime]

Info (and snark) about Holy and Hungry:

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/1012959

Who would you cast to host a new Cooking Channel show that visits restaurants owned by people of faith? How about a woman who has abandoned her own baby, dismisses evolution, believes that nothing predates Christianity and believes all LGBT people will go to hell? Ta da… meet Sherri Shepherd!

As Sherri had posted just one date, my hope was that she was just on one episode!

[Fisher King]

Am I the only one who's thinking the show is going to end up to be more appropriately named "Holy Hungry and HORNY"?

 

SPEW !!!

Can I get a Hallelujah!?!

 

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Didn't Trump once say Bitsy was the dumbest woman on TV?

Yet she still calls him a "good guy."

 

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/17/not_classy_donald_trump_calls_fox_news_critic_in_wheelchair_a_loser_who_just_sits_there/

[Tunia]

LOL - Trump is, was, and always will be an idiot, no matter how rich he is.  He deserves all the support he may get from Bitsy!

[backformore]

LOL - Trump is, was, and always will be an idiot, no matter how rich he is.  He deserves all the support he may get from Bitsy!

Donald Trump is a rich fuck who announced his candidacy in front of an audience consisting of PAID ACTORS and people off the street who were offered free t-shirts to hold signs and pretend to be Trump supporters.   Trump started his speech by acting surprised and flattered by all the supporters who were PAID AND BRIBED to be there.  

 

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/donald-trump-campaign-offered-actors-803161

 

So I think the theme of his campaign will be "vote for me,  here's a hundred bucks"

Edited June 18, 2015 by backformore

[ChicagoCita]

I'm probably giving her too much credit, but "transphat" does seem to be an apt phrase for someone whose weight fluctuates wildly, as Sherri's does.  (And mine, too. I literally have clothes in my closet that get me up and down 100 pounds without having to buy a damn thing.)  Of course, unlike Sherri, I would never use it publicly, because it does have the potential to offend people.

 

I am stunned she keeps landing on her feet.  Not overly bright, not the least bit introspective, not the least bit intellectually curious, and at a real low in her career right now because of the public backlash against her trying to disavow the surrogate's baby.  Yet, she keeps getting hired. She's like an inflatable clown I had as a kid.  You could knock it down, but it always bounced straight back up, with a big grin on its face.

[Former Nun]

I wonder if Sherri even knows what transfat is. I'm sure she's heard the term...but has someone explained it to her (I don't expect her to look up anything)? Also, isn't "phat" old school and phased out now?

Edited June 18, 2015 by Former Nun

[Morgalisa]

 

Also, isn't "phat" old school and phased out now?

 

Yes, FormerNun.    Since the 90s I think.  Also, it meant "pretty hot and tempting" I believe.    So, I wonder what Sherri means by using it that way she did. 

[TribbleTrouble]

Info (and snark) about Holy and Hungry:

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/1012959

As Sherri had posted just one date, my hope was that she was just on one episode!

The cooking channel show was announced by the production company back in April, and that blog post is from more than a month ago. Not sure why Sherri is acting like it was a big secret that she couldn't announce until now. According to the blog post apparently non-Christian restaurants etc. need not apply. Charming, and I guess completely nonsurprising for someone like Sherri (there was nothing before Christianity) Shepherd. Interestingly I noticed the comments section for that blog post is 100% negative, and apparently the cooking channel's own website lists MC Hammer as the host. Guess there's a story there. Hmmm…

[TribbleTrouble]

I am stunned she keeps landing on her feet. Not overly bright, not the least bit introspective, not the least bit intellectually curious, and at a real low in her career right now because of the public backlash against her trying to disavow the surrogate's baby. Yet, she keeps getting hired. She's like an inflatable clown I had as a kid. You could knock it down, but it always bounced straight back up, with a big grin on its face.

I agree. I find it extremely distasteful that people like Sherri and Elisabeth continue to land on their feet in the way that they do in that industry. I guess in Sherri's case she must have a damn good agent or an admirable (I say begrudgingly) amount of hussle. Then again, she needs to work now that she has two children to support. Elisabeth's "success" is simply headshakingly bewildering to me. A smug, ignorant, no talent bottle blonde Foxbot who is presumably making millions a year in yet another cushy part-time job. The amount of sheer luck that she has had in falling into these gigs is unfathomable.