toolazy June 9, 2016 Share June 9, 2016 The fuck is she wearing? Why can't she dress herself properly? Oh, screw it. She's gorgeous anyway. 1 Link to comment
Summer June 9, 2016 Share June 9, 2016 (edited) Good Lord, yet another Twitterstorm. This time regarding Caitriona and something she said in an interview that fans apparently took as a dis and somehow William Shatner got involved. The shitshow that ensued between the fans was unreal. Seriously, unreal. I'm done. I just went and unfollowed every single Outlander fan site on Twitter. I find I prefer to be blissfully unaware. Also, I just don't get THAT worked up over a TV show and the actors involved. I feel better already Edited June 9, 2016 by Summer Link to comment
Keeta June 9, 2016 Share June 9, 2016 Oh boy, I don't even want to know... Some people really need to calm down. Unrelated, I don't recall seeing Caitriona's interview on Conan posted, and finally got around to watching it. It's broken into three different clips. http://teamcoco.com/video/caitriona-balfe-whitest-model 2 Link to comment
maraleia June 9, 2016 Author Share June 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Summer said: Good Lord, yet another Twitterstorm. This time regarding Caitriona and something she said in an interview that fans apparently took as a dis and somehow William Shatner got involved. The shitshow that ensued between the fans was unreal. Seriously, unreal. I'm done. I just went and unfollowed every single Outlander fan site on Twitter. I find I prefer to be blissfully unaware. Also, I just don't get THAT worked up over a TV show and the actors involved. I feel better already Wow people really need to get a life...Sam and Cait are not a couple and they can't handle the truth. 1 Link to comment
bearcatfan June 9, 2016 Share June 9, 2016 6 hours ago, Summer said: Good Lord, yet another Twitterstorm. This time regarding Caitriona and something she said in an interview that fans apparently took as a dis and somehow William Shatner got involved. The shitshow that ensued between the fans was unreal. Seriously, unreal. I'm done. I just went and unfollowed every single Outlander fan site on Twitter. I find I prefer to be blissfully unaware. Also, I just don't get THAT worked up over a TV show and the actors involved. I feel better already I think Shatner got involved because this is the 3rd or 4th Twitterstorm in a week because someone said that Sam and Cait aren't a couple, or something related to it. First, Shatner made a joke when someone jokingly said that he should fix Sam up with one of his daughters. Shatner said his daughters were married but @lisamariiiie is single and met Sam at the Paley event. She must have received some hate tweets because then she said that they can stop hate tweeting her because she didn't attend with Sam, she went with Paul Camuso. Then Paul chimed in and said that he knew for a fact that Sam and Cait are not a couple. Both of these people are friends with Shatner. Then, when Cait said in her interview that she and Sam aren't a couple and that some people seem to have a problem separating the actors from their characters, both Sam and Cait were bombarded with tweets about throwing the fans under the bus and calling fans stupid and how Sam and Cait are responsible because of how they act when doing publicity for the show. That's when I think Shatner got fed up and entered the fray. Once you are in his inner circle, he is a very loyal friend. Considering his twitter picture is a picture of him and Sam, I'd say Sam has reached Shatner's inner circle. I don't follow an fan sites so I learned all this from the twitter accounts of Sam, Cait and Bill Shatner. Bill is also friends with the actors on Supernatural so it's not like he hasn't dealt with intense fandoms before. 2 Link to comment
peacefrog June 10, 2016 Share June 10, 2016 Shatner is a bully himself and this isn't the first fandom he's trolled. It's a perfect storm of drama out there. Outlander fandom extremists come off very entitled, mothering and lacking self awareness. They dog pile on bloggers, reviewers and even people who have just posted pictures of cast and production. T & L stopped their reviews because fans wouldn't follow the guidelines(spoiling with book plotlines) and attacks on them. SpoilerTv contributor can't even post the ratings and making the general comment that ratings went down without being tweeted that he's being negative and not reporting right. Terry received a long message or something with hurtful things about her marriage because they don't agree with how Moore runs the show. It's not just shippers or anti-shippers. It's random, very vocal fans. Other things. I love Cait's dress. She looks stunning in it and it's one of my favorite looks of hers. Only she could pull it off! I think those writers may be assistants? Otherwise that's a ton of writers to have. 1 Link to comment
Nidratime June 10, 2016 Share June 10, 2016 Even more information about this season's costumes, from the Paley Center. https://www.buzzfeed.com/caseyrackham/outlander-costume-secrets?utm_term=.fsqD20LV1#.yeXrDaBod Link to comment
toolazy June 10, 2016 Share June 10, 2016 It's to the point where I'm almost embarrassed to admit on the internet that I'm an Outlander fan. The fawning syncophants on Diana's Facebook page, the Sam & Cait shippers and the idiots who drove Tom & Lorenzo to stop covering the show are all just so very terrible. I'm mortified to have anything in common with them at all. 6 Link to comment
maraleia June 10, 2016 Author Share June 10, 2016 2 hours ago, toolazy said: It's to the point where I'm almost embarrassed to admit on the internet that I'm an Outlander fan. The fawning syncophants on Diana's Facebook page, the Sam & Cait shippers and the idiots who drove Tom & Lorenzo to stop covering the show are all just so very terrible. I'm mortified to have anything in common with them at all. Me too, however, I did ask Tom and Lorenzo a valid question and they blocked me on twitter and for them to get their panties in a twister when they've put themselves out there is really ridiculous. The rest of the rabid fans are another thing. 2 Link to comment
WatchrTina June 11, 2016 Share June 11, 2016 (edited) For those of you who don't Twitter and missed yesterday's twitter storm, count your blessings. But that also means you missed this tweet from Sam containing a particularly fetching photo, so I thought I'd share it. You're welcome. https://twitter.com/SamHeughan/status/741148460926308352 Edited June 11, 2016 by WatchrTina 1 Link to comment
WatchrTina June 11, 2016 Share June 11, 2016 Oh. My. God. The twitter storm yesterday has now become so infamous that people are posting recaps of it. I have to admit -- this is a pretty funny article. http://thats-normal.com/2016/06/william-shatner-and-outlander-fans-shatlander/ But I don't like the term "Shatlander." I prefer "Shipocalypse". (I just made that up.) Link to comment
Dust Bunny June 11, 2016 Share June 11, 2016 (edited) Sweet. Looks like I picked the right week for breast reconstruction surgery. Not only have I been high on Percocet the last 3ish days, I've apparently avoided stupid Outlander fandumb. Win-win. It's a fantastic idea to piss off the very people that make your favorite thing happen. What could possibly go wrong? Remember when civility used to be a value? Now it's whoever makes the most noise or inspires the most memes. Edited June 11, 2016 by Dust Bunny 6 Link to comment
toolazy June 11, 2016 Share June 11, 2016 10 hours ago, WatchrTina said: For those of you who don't Twitter and missed yesterday's twitter storm, count your blessings. But that also means you missed this tweet from Sam containing a particularly fetching photo, so I thought I'd share it. You're welcome. https://twitter.com/SamHeughan/status/741148460926308352 Holy shitsnacks! Who knew he'd be as hot in a cowboy hat as he is in a kilt?! 1 Link to comment
WatchrTina June 11, 2016 Share June 11, 2016 Quote fandumb Snerk. I love that. I am totally stealing that. Best wishes for a speedy recovery Dust Bunny. 2 Link to comment
morgan June 11, 2016 Share June 11, 2016 Well said Dustbunny, and wishes for a speedy recovery. 1 Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule June 11, 2016 Share June 11, 2016 20 hours ago, WatchrTina said: For those of you who don't Twitter and missed yesterday's twitter storm, count your blessings. But that also means you missed this tweet from Sam containing a particularly fetching photo, so I thought I'd share it. You're welcome. https://twitter.com/SamHeughan/status/741148460926308352 Another Twitterstorm? But my GOD, that picture! It's no secret that I LOATHE Twitter, and I'm totally blaming @WatchrTina for the dream I had last night--in order for me to "talk" to Sam, I got a Twitter account and he "talked" to me. A pox on you, WatchrTina for making me even think about getting an account! 3 Link to comment
WatchrTina June 11, 2016 Share June 11, 2016 Come to the dark side GHScorpiousRule, the water's fine. ;) I prompted you dream about Sam? Shouldn't you be thanking me for that? 3 Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule June 11, 2016 Share June 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, WatchrTina said: Come to the dark side GHScorpiousRule, the water's fine. ;) I prompted you dream about Sam? Shouldn't you be thanking me for that? I'll thank ye fer the dream, but not fer tempting me to get Twitter! 2 Link to comment
Nidratime June 12, 2016 Share June 12, 2016 Just FYI, Outlander trending tonight in my city: 10:17 p.m. eastern time in Washington, DC Washington Trends #OJMadeInAmerica 17.2K Tweets #blackboysbreaktheinternet 86.7K Tweets #USAvPAR 74K Tweets #COLvCRC Just started trending#Outlander 22K Tweets Vamos Colombia Started trending in the last hour Drew Carlton Started trending in the last hour Carlos Martinez Just started trending Beckerman Started trending in the last hour Venegas Just started trending 1 Link to comment
toolazy June 12, 2016 Share June 12, 2016 8 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said: Another Twitterstorm? But my GOD, that picture! It's no secret that I LOATHE Twitter, and I'm totally blaming @WatchrTina for the dream I had last night--in order for me to "talk" to Sam, I got a Twitter account and he "talked" to me. A pox on you, WatchrTina for making me even think about getting an account! He is awfully pretty in that hat. Cripes, I might need a cold shower. 1 Link to comment
Keeta June 12, 2016 Share June 12, 2016 On 6/11/2016 at 5:26 AM, Dust Bunny said: fandumb Hahaha, genius. Link to comment
Wouldofshouldof June 12, 2016 Share June 12, 2016 On 6/11/2016 at 5:31 AM, toolazy said: Holy shitsnacks! Who knew he'd be as hot in a cowboy hat as he is in a kilt?! Uh, everydamnbody? ; ) 2 Link to comment
WatchrTina June 12, 2016 Share June 12, 2016 (edited) Here's a link to Connie Verzak's photo recap of episode 209, Je Suis Prest. The photos-with-captions are, as usual, very funny. I almost did not post this, however, because I'm mad at ScotlandNow for creating that whole stupid "Jump the shark" kerfuffle a few weeks ago. But I just read a LONG post on Diana's Facebook page about it and in it she shares that an editor from the newspaper did eventually reach out to her and acknowledge that they did err in accepting the story that was submitted to them without vetting it with Diana. So, here you go. http://www.scotlandnow.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/outlander-season-2-episode-9-8122802 Edited June 15, 2016 by WatchrTina 1 Link to comment
WatchrTina June 12, 2016 Share June 12, 2016 Here's an interview with Sam and Tobias about the process of being cast. http://www.backstage.com/interview/outlander-men-auditions-and-adaptations/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Editorial+Posts This is the my favorite part: Quote “In Glasgow no one cares about us,” Heughan says when discussing the intense fan love the show has inspired. “The other day I was walking down the street and some car drove past and they’re like, ‘You! You! “Outlander!” ’ I was, like, ‘Yeah!’ And they’re, like, ‘Wanker.’ ” Heughan and Menzies both laugh. Link to comment
WatchrTina June 12, 2016 Share June 12, 2016 Here's an interview with Stephen Walters (Angus) regarding ep 210, Presontpans and his character's exit. http://tvline.com/2016/06/11/outlander-angus-dies-dead-season-2-episode-10-stephen-walters-interview/ 1 Link to comment
Wouldofshouldof June 13, 2016 Share June 13, 2016 Quote Quote I actually find out by reading a script that was sent to me and I was kind of like ‘OK.’ Then it was explained to me, the backstory, about how the character of Willie, they were intending to kill that character, but then the actor who played him was contracted so he had to bail out on a second season and I guess I took the bullet. Thanks for that, WT. This quote I messed up formatting is from the interview. If Willie was originally meant to be killed off in this scene instead of Angus, I wonder if that means they had always planned to have Dougal's death scene go down differently, rather than have Willie witness it. Link to comment
Nidratime June 13, 2016 Share June 13, 2016 Hmm, do we even want to know what that new plot is? Let the speculation begin. New 'Outlander' Seasons Will Stray From The Books, So Get Ready For Unpredictable Episodes http://www.bustle.com/articles/166235-new-outlander-seasons-will-stray-from-the-books-so-get-ready-for-unpredictable-episodes Link to comment
WatchrTina June 15, 2016 Share June 15, 2016 Here's Connie Verzak's photo recap of episode 210, Prestonpans for Scotland Now. http://www.scotlandnow.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/outlander-recap-season-2-episode-8178760 Link to comment
WatchrTina June 16, 2016 Share June 16, 2016 Here's a 35-minute Skype interview with Cait by the good folks at Gold Derby. She talks about being cast in Outlander, a fair amount about season 2, and bit at the end about making Money Monster. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv21sA0QA94&feature=youtu.be 1 Link to comment
Petunia846 June 16, 2016 Share June 16, 2016 Guys, guys, guys, go watch this tiny clip from this week's episode. I don't want to die alone. http://www.marieclaire.com/culture/news/a21085/exclusive-outlander-sneak-peek/ 3 Link to comment
Nidratime June 16, 2016 Share June 16, 2016 Just saw that tweeted. I wish I could understand what he's saying! Link to comment
AheadofStraight June 16, 2016 Share June 16, 2016 Nidratime - looks like it's adapted from a convo in the book: Let me tell ye in your sleep how much I love you. For there’s no so much I can be saying to ye while ye wake, but the same poor words, again and again. While ye sleep in my arms, I can say things to ye that would be daft and silly waking, and your dreams will know the truth of them. Go back to sleep, mo duinne. 1 Link to comment
maraleia June 17, 2016 Author Share June 17, 2016 Check this out...all about Fergus (no spoilers) http://www.tvguide.com/news/outlander-fergus-gif-tribute/ 2 Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule June 17, 2016 Share June 17, 2016 7 hours ago, Petunia846 said: Guys, guys, guys, go watch this tiny clip from this week's episode. I don't want to die alone. http://www.marieclaire.com/culture/news/a21085/exclusive-outlander-sneak-peek/ Me: SWOOOOOOOOOOOON 1 Link to comment
Keeta June 17, 2016 Share June 17, 2016 9 hours ago, maraleia said: Check this out...all about Fergus (no spoilers) http://www.tvguide.com/news/outlander-fergus-gif-tribute/ GIF for #6 is so great. As is Fergus. More Fergus please. Link to comment
Clawdette June 17, 2016 Share June 17, 2016 Additional pictures for Episode 11. There are several I haven't seen before. Spoiler Claire with BlackJack and Hugh Munroe Episode 11 photos Link to comment
toolazy June 17, 2016 Share June 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Grashka said: That's not BJR (thanks heaven), that's someone listed as Lieutenant Barnes Reveal hidden contents probably one of the Red Coats escorting Claire from church. Whoa! I totally thought it was BJR and I was confused. Link to comment
Clawdette June 19, 2016 Share June 19, 2016 Well, that was a downer. I just listened to the Scot and the Sassenach podcast and they are less than enthusiastic about Episode 11. They loved the first half but think things go off the rails when Claire arrives at the Duke's house - they term it an unintentional French farce. They don't lay all the fault with Diana, noting that decisions had to be made based on other choices made earlier in the season. But, in their opinion, there is too much exposition once at the Duke's home, a bad choice to have Mary kill the rapist, and they hate Murtagh killing the Duke in front of Claire and Mary (because he made his vow to show Jamie alone). While I understand what they are saying, I still loved the episode. Sigh 1 Link to comment
toolazy June 19, 2016 Share June 19, 2016 I think it was a great choice to have Mary kill her rapist. In other, extremely embarrassing news, here's an article from Vox about Outlander's toxic fandom: http://www.vox.com/2016/6/17/11943538/outlander-fandom-william-shatner-shipping-controversy Link to comment
Nidratime June 19, 2016 Share June 19, 2016 Quote Well, that was a downer. I just listened to the Scot and the Sassenach podcast and they are less than enthusiastic about Episode 11. They loved the first half but think things go off the rails when Claire arrives at the Duke's house - they term it an unintentional French farce. If you like the episode, that's all that matters. I've been rolling my eyes at the TSatS analysis. They intro the whole thing by talking about how great the episode was and then they piss all over everything, leaving the listener to wonder what was great. Were they grading on a very steep curve? Frankly, if they really think the episode is not good, they should say so. Then, the listener won't be scratching their head wondering why their effusiveness doesn't align with their analysis. Oh, by the way, the stuff that happened in Sandringham's castle was pretty similar to what happened in the book, so that means they had a problem with that as well. 6 Link to comment
maraleia June 19, 2016 Author Share June 19, 2016 (edited) 11 hours ago, toolazy said: I think it was a great choice to have Mary kill her rapist. In other, extremely embarrassing news, here's an article from Vox about Outlander's toxic fandom: http://www.vox.com/2016/6/17/11943538/outlander-fandom-william-shatner-shipping-controversy I think there are elements of the fandom who don't want to believe the truth about, in this case, the fact that Sam and Cait aren't dating and they do bully those who believe it when Sam and Cait say they are dating other people. I hate that this is ruining a great experience for the majority of us. Also, note to twitter peeps. Don't piss off the Shat. On another note I've had to stop listening to TSatS podcast precisely for the same reasons as Nidratime. They are all over the place. Edited June 19, 2016 by maraleia 1 Link to comment
WatchrTina June 19, 2016 Share June 19, 2016 (edited) I'm with maraleia and Nidradine. I started listening to the TSatS podcasts only a few weeks ago and yeah, I've enjoyed it less and less as the weeks have gone on. Their focus does seem to be on the negative. I was really disappointed when they got on the band-wagon and stirred the whole "jump the shark" pot, (especially when it was later revealed to have been a tempest in a teapot based on a poorly-researched article that ScotlandNow should never have reported without vetting it with Diana first.) The two podcasters seem to be lovely, intelligent, thoughtful people (and a rather adorable married couple) but in order to fill an hour-long podcast and to promote discussion among their listeners, they do seem to focus on the negative. I waited and watched the most recent episode "live" last night so that means I did NOT watch the twitter feed nor live-tweet during that time-frame. Then, basking in the after-glow of a good episode, I scanned the Outlander-related twitter-feed for that hour and was shocked to see the TSatS team tweeting some really negative stuff. I'm not sure that pod-cast is contributing to my enjoyment of the show any more. Edited June 19, 2016 by WatchrTina 1 Link to comment
WatchrTina June 19, 2016 Share June 19, 2016 (edited) I take it all back. I just listened to TSatS's podcast for ep 211 and I'm back to loving these two all over again. I do NOT agree with everything they say but I even when I disagree I have to give them props for making their arguments in an intelligent and often very funny manner. I think they should tweet less because the limited format of tweeting can sometimes make them come off as harsh or unreasonable whereas the longer form of the podcast allows them the space they need to explain their reasoning and often even to debate and disagree on some points. The strong objections that they had to the confusing plot of the second half echoes some of the comments I made in my own post about the problems I had with the "choreography" of the plot -- especially the comings and goings around the Duke's house. Okay this the was funniest part of their podcast and it echos something Ron Moore and Diana Gabaldon said in the official STARZ behind-the-scenes podcast. Let's talk about Rupert's eye wound. According to Ron & Diana, the prosthetic for Rupert's eye wound was so realistic that Grant O'Roark (the actor who plays Rupert) had trouble dealing with it. He didn't want to look in the mirror. Well apparently Alastair (the "Scot" of TSatS) has a similar issue regarding eyes. Lani, his wife (Sassenach who makes up the second "S" of TSatS) said that she struggled with the scene where Claire works on Rupert's eye wound but she knew Alastair was going to have an even worse time of it because if she forgets to close the bathroom door and he catches sight of her taking out her contact lenses he is completely creeped out. He got creeped out just by her talking about it on the pod cast. I laughed. A lot. I have more to say about their criticisms of this episode but I think I'll take them elsewhere. I just wanted to take back what I said about not listening to them any more. Edited June 20, 2016 by WatchrTina 2 Link to comment
Nidratime June 19, 2016 Share June 19, 2016 Sam talking about Jamie's arc over the season, especially episodes 10 and 11. 4 Link to comment
toolazy June 20, 2016 Share June 20, 2016 (edited) The problem with that article is that the writer comes into it butthurt over things Gabaldon has said in the past and that casts a pall over everything else. Edited June 20, 2016 by toolazy Link to comment
Petunia846 June 20, 2016 Share June 20, 2016 Here's a really nice interview with Cait. I think it's from an actor's group, so it's got lots of nice discussion about acting and stuff. And he lets her just talk, which is lovely. 4 Link to comment
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