Matt and Caryn

[LilyD]

So, he’s continued adding to the big house till this day?I wonder why as I fail to see any reason why?  I don’t know about its layout but I have seen quite a few houses that ‘suffered’ from numerous remodelling projects. Those floor plans never make sense.

I think he needs something to keep him occupied. Once he loses interest, which is usually soon, he’ll abandon it and starts something new. If Matt ever sells the place, the buyer is gonna lots of huge skips to get rid of all the junk on the premises.

[pdlinda]

50 minutes ago, LilyD said:

So, he’s continued adding to the big house till this day?I wonder why as I fail to see any reason why?  I don’t know about its layout but I have seen quite a few houses that ‘suffered’ from numerous remodelling projects. Those floor plans never make sense.

I think he needs something to keep him occupied. Once he loses interest, which is usually soon, he’ll abandon it and starts something new. If Matt ever sells the place, the buyer is gonna lots of huge skips to get rid of all the junk on the premises.

I was thinking maybe the entire parcel would be bought by an investor developer as a "tear down."  Gut everything on the property and turn it into a "luxury condo" or "luxury single family home" or "mixed use" community.

[Absolom]

8 minutes ago, pdlinda said:

I was thinking maybe the entire parcel would be bought by an investor developer as a "tear down."  Gut everything on the property and turn it into a "luxury condo" or "luxury single family home" or "mixed use" community.

They would have to get the zoning changed and that's no easy matter. 

[EllaWycliffe]

7 minutes ago, LilyD said:

So, he’s continued adding to the big house till this day?

Dunno about adding to it - he says remodeling. I have noticed, from watching the show, that Matt tends to be constantly remodeling

9 minutes ago, LilyD said:

I wonder why as I fail to see any reason why?

Well, there was a whole lotta "Amy let all the maintenance go" complaining but really it all sounded like normal wear and tear. Matt also tends to make things sound much bigger than they actually are. The "major remodeling" he talks about for example? Might be painting a room or two. At one point he was "remodeling" the double wide, which amounted to painting the cabinets and changing the flooring. 

Made worse that yeah, he's constantly saying he won't live there.

24 minutes ago, LilyD said:

 I don’t know about its layout but I have seen quite a few houses that ‘suffered’ from numerous remodelling projects. Those floor plans never make sense.

Its genuinely hard to tell what's going on with the floor plan of the Big House. I know, for example, that there's still three bedrooms on the second floor but there's ALSO a really extensive great room and maybe another bedroom? On the first floor there was a LARGE office for Matt that once he moved out seemed to never really be used again (Amy may have used it as a playroom for the grandkids. There's the really large great room attached to the kitchen and a dining room and the original smaller office/den, and the original rarely seen bedroom and bathroom for Matt and Amy. And there is a six car garage that also seems to have office space. 

One reason I found the "OMG I MUST BUILD A NEW GARAGE PRONTO!" silliness so silly is that if no one is living in the big house... why not park your cars there? Even if the other Karen was still renting, most people don't have six cars to begin with and garage access isn't much to ask for from a renter. 

But then who knows how many cars Matt owns? 

54 minutes ago, LilyD said:

I think he needs something to keep him occupied. Once he loses interest, which is usually soon, he’ll abandon it and starts something new.

I am curious if he ever starts the barbie dream house, just how long it will take. The last major change to the house was a six month long, if not more, nightmare of Matt making changes to everything and running out of money which shut down building. And that was with Amy and the kids nagging him.

 

1 minute ago, Absolom said:

They would have to get the zoning changed and that's no easy matter. 

Exactly! And honestly, if it was easy peasy make a butt ton of money to sell to developers Matt would have sold the property decades ago.

[katycat74]

Matt just posted 16 acres of their farm is on the market of their original 109. Sorry the links he posted aren't working for me

Edited May 12, 2022 by katycat74

[ginger90]

The house is for sale, along with about 16 acres

[Jeanne222]

Just now, ginger90 said:

The house is for sale, along with about 16 acres

Yes I just saw that. I went to the linc he posted but it’s disabled.  Wondering the price. 

[EllaWycliffe]

Interesting! Did it say how much?

[EllaWycliffe]

Its a nice place but I will be genuinely shocked if he gets 4 million for it. 

I'm more impressed that he was allowed to split the property. 

 

[EllaWycliffe]

I tried to look at the listing at Global Properties  but its timed out 503.

The Wall Street Journal article says the castle and the pirate ship and western town are included, thanks for the link Dustbunny!

8 minutes ago, Dustbunny said:

me too, he can ask whatever he wants for the place but asking and getting are two very different things

Agreed. And if thats close to the deal offered to Zach, not sure I can blame Zach for being pissed. Matt bought *half* the property from Amy for 975k just last year. He's now offering to sell essentially half of the original 32 acres for 4 million. Admittedly the "good half" but thats still one HELL of a mark up. 

[Jeanne222]

Actually the kids might make out quite well. If Matt bought from Amy for under one million and sells it for four million that will surely be a huge inheritance for the four Roloff children. 
 

Matts pretty smart with $$$. I bet Amy’s  really 😡 pissed!

[EllaWycliffe]

3 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Actually the kids might make out quite well. If Matt bought from Amy for under one million and sells it for four million that will surely be a huge inheritance for the four Roloff children. 

Hehehe this assumes that Matt doesn't spend it on his own plans. Point - wasn't there some speculation recently that Matt simply couldn't afford to build his barbie dream house? Maybe this is how he gets the cash....

I also wouldn't expect any inheritance from Matt at this point if I was one of those kids.  (not that it should be expected either, but I have a feeling Matt is all about Matt)

8 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Matts pretty smart with $$$. I bet Amy’s  really 😡 pissed!

Only if he actually sells it for that price - he took out an 867k mortgage on it just last year to pay Amy and most buyers at this level do pay attention to prior sale prices. Matt paid Amy 975k total for her *half* the property just last year. Now he's selling the admittedly better half for 3 times that? I mean, he's also saying (as of right now) that pumpkin season will continue which means any buyer will be dealing with people non stop trespassing in October...

[EllaWycliffe]

In what seems like a really classic passive aggressive bitch move, everyone knows this announcement is on Jackson's birthday, right? :)

Super classy!

[pdlinda]

23 minutes ago, EllaWycliffe said:

39 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Actually the kids might make out quite well. If Matt bought from Amy for under one million and sells it for four million that will surely be a huge inheritance for the four Roloff children. 

Hehehe this assumes that Matt doesn't spend it on his own plans. Point - wasn't there some speculation recently that Matt simply couldn't afford to build his barbie dream house? Maybe this is how he gets the cash....

I also wouldn't expect any inheritance from Matt at this point if I was one of those kids.  (not that it should be expected either, but I have a feeling Matt is all about Matt)

39 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Matts pretty smart with $$$. I bet Amy’s  really 😡 pissed!

Only if he actually sells it for that price

Won't the APPRAISAL amount be crucial in determining whether $4 million is a justified asking price?

[EllaWycliffe]

5 minutes ago, pdlinda said:

Won't the APPRAISAL amount be crucial in determining whether $4 million is a justified asking price?

Of course. I'd love to see the appraised value. Is it in the listing? I could have missed it. 

What I did see was the last sale value a little over a year ago that was 975k. I don't know how finishing the play pirate ship and burying some gold coins in the sandbox increased the value by over 3 million, but hey maybe its a lot of pirate booty buried there....

[EllaWycliffe]

8 minutes ago, Dustbunny said:

he mentioned putting up a wall between the 2 properties, he said something like "Great Wall of China" not sure what that will look like but I guess it's better than living in the farm house with tourists wandering around, taking pictures etc during pumpkin season.

For a variety of reasons I do not think "having pumpkin season" will survive this sale (pretty much all of the sites and infrastructure including parking lots is in the listing photos for the sale) but I do hope any potential owners consider what Matt's plans for his property will be. Not sure, for example, how I'd feel about buying a nice whimsical piece of land only to see my next door neighbor  building a "Great Wall of China" so close to my property. Nor would I be pleased with a pumpkin season (if it were to happen) where the patrons were used to being on and wanting to see *my* property. 

3 minutes ago, Dustbunny said:

I don't know about Portland, Oregon but where I live house prices have quadrupled in the last 2 yrs

That farmhouse and 16 acres would easily be in the 3-4 million range

All you get here for a million dollars is a shack on a 60'x120' lot.... basically a gut job or tear down

Oh prices have definitely gone up but its a pretty niche property.  And the market for gigantic expensive houses in Matt's neck of the woods without all the strings attached of being the ex Roloff Farms property isn't blazing. 

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10425-NW-Helvetia-Rd-Hillsboro-OR-97124/186249293_zpid/ This place for example on zillow, not a roloff address but literally down the road from Roloff Farms is 1,750,000,000 - its on 10 acres and has the same 5 bedrooms, 6 baths and its been on Zillow for 19 days already. 

12 minutes ago, Dustbunny said:

Can't wait to see if Matt's place sells and for how much

I'm curious to see how it does. I suspect this new season will be al about it. 

[Jeanne222]

1 hour ago, Dustbunny said:

Lovely young man!  Don’t worry kiddo. Daddy will once again load your pockets with gold and you will never have to work!

[Jeanne222]

1 hour ago, pdlinda said:

Won't the APPRAISAL amount be crucial in determining whether $4 million is a justified asking price?

Yes but lately the housing market has been going every which way. Many are paying cash for large purchases. If they want it they buy it!

Bitcoin, fir one, made a lot of big time spenders!  I posted that one because on house hunters a buyer was paying cash from Bitcoin!

Homes in our area are selling at way over listing and appraised prices. Buyers just come up cash for the difference!

[LilyD]

20 minutes ago, EllaWycliffe said:

Oh prices have definitely gone up but its a pretty niche property.  And the market for gigantic expensive houses in Matt's neck of the woods without all the strings attached of being the ex Roloff Farms property isn't blazing. 

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10425-NW-Helvetia-Rd-Hillsboro-OR-97124/186249293_zpid/ This place for example on zillow, not a roloff address but literally down the road from Roloff Farms is 1,750,000,000 - its on 10 acres and has the same 5 bedrooms, 6 baths and its been on Zillow for 19 days already. 

Matt has talked about selling for so long that I wonder whether he actually wants to sell. Only a Huge profit might possibly sway him to sign it over, otherwise he won’t (or so I believe)

I also fully agree with you this being a niche property. It’s a miniature theme park (no pun intended) that’s past it’s glory days and possibly doesn’t meet safety regulations. It probably all needs to go.
As for the house; the built in cabinets still seem to be low, as are all the windows and the fence around the porch. A new owner will probably want this changed.
I also suspect there’s a lot of wear and tear still that is not immediately visible from the pictures… This house definitely needs some money to fix all this.

[YupItsMe]

28 minutes ago, EllaWycliffe said:

For a variety of reasons I do not think "having pumpkin season" will survive this sale (pretty much all of the sites and infrastructure including parking lots is in the listing photos for the sale) but I do hope any potential owners consider what Matt's plans for his property will be. Not sure, for example, how I'd feel about buying a nice whimsical piece of land only to see my next door neighbor  building a "Great Wall of China" so close to my property. Nor would I be pleased with a pumpkin season (if it were to happen) where the patrons were used to being on and wanting to see *my* property. 

Oh prices have definitely gone up but its a pretty niche property.  And the market for gigantic expensive houses in Matt's neck of the woods without all the strings attached of being the ex Roloff Farms property isn't blazing. 

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10425-NW-Helvetia-Rd-Hillsboro-OR-97124/186249293_zpid/ This place for example on zillow, not a roloff address but literally down the road from Roloff Farms is 1,750,000,000 - its on 10 acres and has the same 5 bedrooms, 6 baths and its been on Zillow for 19 days already. 

I'm curious to see how it does. I suspect this new season will be al about it. 

I’m sure it’s just a typo but that property is $1,675,000 not one billion 750 million.

[Jeanne222]

Matt might also be looking at what the market will bear on that property. 

A home equity loan is supported by an appraisal.   Finding out the property is worth much more than the appraisal could mean building Matt’s dream home with home equity money. 

I may not always agree with everything Matt does but I do think he’s super money smart!

That man knows how to make a buck with big time moves. 

[EllaWycliffe]

Heheeh yes a typo, its 1.75 million with same rooms and property and neighborhood. 

I noticed in the kitchen pictures that the counters and stove top still seem low which means a buyer needs to consider that as well. 

5 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

That man knows how to make a buck with big time moves. 

I would suggest waiting until he's actually made a buck....

He may very well - it is a nice property. But rates are going up....

[Jeanne222]

Matt has already lined all his kids pockets with gold 

How do we know this?  Nobody works!  They all have lovely everything. 

That all came from somewhere. 

Are Audrey and Jeremy back from their month vacationing in Hawaii. 

I’m sure they are anxious to work on their vacation home. 

[Absolom]

Molly decided working and having her privacy was the way to go so at least one works and Audrey works hard pitching her MLM business.  

[ginger90]

[chenoa333]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

Hope you enjoyed Jackson's birthday with you Matt.  It might be the last time you see him til he's 18.

Tori and Zach using the kids to manipulate and get revenge for their own selfish reasons is disgusting. I can't even imagine what those kids would go through if Zach and Tori ever got divorced.

Stay tuned for Little People BIG Mess. It's coming soon.

[Absolom]

There's no saying when the photo was taken.  That was the first thing I noticed.  No birthday presents or decorations.  It could just be this is the photo we picked for the internet happy birthday.

[readheaded]

32 minutes ago, chenoa333 said:

Hope you enjoyed Jackson's birthday with you Matt.  It might be the last time you see him til he's 18.

Tori and Zach using the kids to manipulate and get revenge for their own selfish reasons is disgusting. I can't even imagine what those kids would go through if Zach and Tori ever got divorced.

Stay tuned for Little People BIG Mess. It's coming soon.

What did I miss that we've seen Zach and Tori using their kids that way? 

[chenoa333]

13 minutes ago, readheaded said:

What did I miss that we've seen Zach and Tori using their kids that way? 

Zach and tori having Jackson announce to Grandpa that they were moving. 

It's my opinion and perspective of them. 

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

Personally I think he is about a year late putting the property up About a year ago you could get a 30 yr, fixed rate mortgage for under 3% and now its over 5 1/2%. At that time the homes in my area were being sold within a day or two of hitting the market, I have noticed a sharp decline in quick sales.  It wouldn't surprise me if Matt was told what it was worth and he felt he could get much more. 

[iwantcookies]

https://people.com/home/matt-roloff-of-little-people-big-world-selling-family-farm-featured-in-series-for-4-million/

[LilyD]

18 hours ago, chenoa333 said:

Zach and tori having Jackson announce to Grandpa that they were moving. 

It's my opinion and perspective of them. 

I haven't seen this and completely missed this announcement, so I may completely misread the situation.  But is it really that bad to 'use' kids to make announcements? It can make for funny scenes. Heck, my eldest wore a t-shirt saying "soon-to-be-big-sister" on my birthday and it took my family forever to pick up on that huge hint.... it was so funny!

[ginger90]

9 minutes ago, LilyD said:

But is it really that bad to 'use' kids to make announcements?

Judge for yourself:

Spoiler

 

 

Edited May 14, 2022 by ginger90

[scenicbyway]

Yikes! Caryn and Matt come off as jerks (which they probably are). Matt would know how much money Zach can afford, he’d also have an idea of the health care expenses Zach and the kids will have over the next several years. I would guess his price would take all of Zach’s money. Good for them for walking away. I noticed Jer and Auj have moved their “office” off the farm too.

Caryn is a piece of work that sure looks like a gold digger. Matt will irreparably alienate his kids for a profit. Very sad.

[Joan of Argh]

22 hours ago, chenoa333 said:

Zach and tori having Jackson announce to Grandpa that they were moving. 

It's my opinion and perspective of them. 

Zach even told Jackson how to do it for maximum effect... he coaches Jackson to walk up to them and say it

so don’t just say it from here where we’re standing… march over there and tell them to their faces

4 hours ago, LilyD said:

I haven't seen this and completely missed this announcement, so I may completely misread the situation.  But is it really that bad to 'use' kids to make announcements? It can make for funny scenes. Heck, my eldest wore a t-shirt saying "soon-to-be-big-sister" on my birthday and it took my family forever to pick up on that huge hint.... it was so funny!

of course it’s fine if it’s happy news and it’s something that everyone will enjoy hearing

this wasn’t that type of situation

[LilyD]

2 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

Zach even told Jackson how to do it for maximum effect... he coaches Jackson to walk up to them and say it

so don’t just say it from here where we’re standing… march over there and tell them to their faces

Thanks Ginger for sharing, which helped clarifying the scene Joan referred to. Yeah… that certainly was awkward.  I guess they used Jackson that way to prevent another explosive argument, which would have been far worse for the kids, in my opinion. But generally speaking, leave kids out of arguments!

My take on the fall out: Zach’s words about controlling reveals a lot. It sounds a lot like Matt laying down the rules in a “take it or leave it” position. And Zach did that; he left. What’s more, this move emphasised that he wasn’t going to bend to Matt’s will. He really was serious about walking away.

As for selling the farm to one of the kids: For all his faults, Matt isn’t stupid. He achieved a lot. If he had really wanted to keep that farm in the family, he would have found a way to make it work. That he hasn’t, tells me that he is either not sure about stepping down, or completely blinded by the big bucks!

[Harry Wails]

On 5/13/2022 at 12:38 PM, chenoa333 said:

Zach and tori having Jackson announce to Grandpa that they were moving. 

It's my opinion and perspective of them. 

Typical cowardly Zach move

I'll send my 4 yr old over to drop the bomb

Zach's a lazy ignorant turd who needs to grow up

Bottom line he couldn't afford to buy the north portion of the farm and he's pissed that daddy wouldn't hand it to him on a silver platter, Tori's a giant asshole too.

Both are dunces who think they're..  Oh so special and entitled!  🙄

[Jeanne222]

All this going on!  My opinion…riving it up for the new season!  Stay tuned. 

Matt’s a genius at getting publicity to work for him!  The master of deceit!

[readheaded]

10 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Judge for yourself:

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Thanks for posting this; it's exactly why I'd asked what I'd missed because I hadn't seen it.

[chenoa333]

16 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

All this going on!  My opinion…riving it up for the new season! 

Yes indeed. I have no desire to watch but I will continue to come here to read the comments by posters who will eloquently describe the $hit show fakery.

#wheresChris? 

[Ms.Lulu]

I did have two other thoughts.  

We know Matt paid Amy out twice, once for some property and once for the business.  The speculation here is that it was a couple million total.  I wonder if Matt believes that if he paid Amy $2MM total for half that he is entitled to $4MM for the whole.

In looking at property taxes for that particular plot, it is work ~$2MM.

So I wonder if the this is a plot arc that will end with Matt approaching Zach on the last episode saying he'd like to sell, for half the market list price.

 

Edited May 15, 2022 by Ms.Lulu

[Absolom]

Matt had to buy Amy out for two pieces of property.  There was the side with the double wide and the side with the house.

[Joan of Argh]

1 hour ago, Ms.Lulu said:

So I wonder if the this is a plot arc that will end with Matt approaching Zach on the last episode saying he'd like to sell, for half the market list price.

 

I kind of doubt it since Zach and Tori just bought a new home in Washington and moved already

[LilyD]

Should anyone be interested: you can do a virtual tour of the farm if you google it and find the estate agent. I haven’t posted the link as I wasn’t sure if that’s allowed because it obviously displays the address too. The agent actively promotes it as the Roloff house with a word from Matt himself.

The house seems in a far better condition than I expected, though pictures obviously don’t show all there is to see. I hate the popcorn ceilings and odd plaster work that was applied through out. From what I can see, kitchen and bathrooms seem mostly still adapted to LP, which makes sense as it is still their house.

 

[PrincessPurrsALot]

Folks,

We are not allowing links directly to anything that shows the home address.  Roloff Farms is easy to find online; this is one of the issues when a family lives at the same location as business.   However, we will adhere to site policy that does not allow including home addresses on the forums. 

Thanks!

[ginger90]

[Jeanne222]

16 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Another one of Matt's cliff hangers!  Watch the show to find out this exciting news!

Will Zack drive the bus?  Will Amy dress up and sell salsa?  Will Jeremy make an appearance?  And finally will we get to see Jacobs marijuana farm if there is one!

[LilyD]

2 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

Another one of Matt's cliff hangers!  Watch the show to find out this exciting news!

Will Zack drive the bus?  Will Amy dress up and sell salsa?  Will Jeremy make an appearance?  And finally will we get to see Jacobs marijuana farm if there is one!

Well, considering the current family dynamics, this pumpkin season might actually be interesting for once!

[Joan of Argh]

2 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

Will Zack drive the bus?  Will Amy dress up and sell salsa?  Will Jeremy make an appearance?  And finally will we get to see Jacobs marijuana farm if there is one!

Will I barf while Amy talks with her mouth full of food?  Will Chris bring a spinner to the pumpkin patch?  Will Amy mud wrestle Caryn?  Will Jackson bitch slap Matt in a hostile takeover?

[ginger90]