Felicity Smoak: Bitch With Wifi

[wingster55]

I would prefer her to just know basic self defense at most. Like said above I don't need to see every character be a physical bad ass...I think it's actually refreshing to see a character be a bad-ass because she can out think someone. Early Chloe Sullivan or Veronica Mars for example. 

[statsgirl]

Felicity's mother showing up would be all about Felicity, it's character stuff, whereas her dad whether he's a supervillian or not is probably going to be this big plot thing. Considering S3 spoilers I'd rather have the character stuff, guest star Ms Smoak snr (who for some reason I imagine being Lwaxana Troi like) for one episode so we get to know a bit more about Felicity's past and then in s4 or 5 bring in the dad. 

That would be hilarious, and it would explain the "My mother is .... my mother."

 

I agree, Felicity's father is probably going to be All About Oliver and I'd rather meet her mother first too.  I don't know which is more likely if they only promised her one parent, the father because that will be about Oliver or her mother because AK asked for casting suggestions last season.

 

 

We saw Diggle training Felicity in Season 1, but her form (according to Sara) had gone all to hell, so maybe it's just not in her wheelhouse.

Diggle probably taught her what he himself had learned -- as Sara said, small people need different tactics than large ones like Diggle with his huge arms and serious height and muscle.

 

I don't want Felicity out there fighting with Oliver, Diggle and Roy but I also don't want her to be the DiD and kidnapped regularly because she doesn't have self-defense skills.

Edited July 9, 2014 by statsgirl

[Velocity23]

Maybe Felicty just wants to have some alone time with Sally just once. I mean Oliver shares very rarely! 

[Password]

I think it would be very foolish for Felicity to not have at least basic fighting skills. She doesn't need to be Sara 2.0 (which I hear Laurel is aiming for) but she's surrounded by guys who fight and she's in dangerous situations sometimes. Girl's gotta learn something. If not fighting, then some sort of weaponry, be it techie stuff or a glock.

[VCRTracking]

I just remembered in the first season casino scene Felicity complaining about the lack of slot machines and saying "How can you call yourself a casino without any Lucky 7s?!" You could say she probably grew up around them!

Edited July 10, 2014 by VCRTracking

[Starfish35]

Wasn't there also something once about Felicity knowing wines, or am I misremembering that?

[apinknightmare]

Wasn't there also something once about Felicity knowing wines, or am I misremembering that?

 

She likes red wine, but I don't know how much of a connoisseur she is.

[catrox14]

SA could have a new wine....from his Nocking Point Winery

 

"Knocking Felicity"

 

I'll see myself out...

Edited July 10, 2014 by catrox14

[foreverevolving]

SA could have a new wine....from his Nocking Point Winery

 

"Knocking Felicity"

 

I'll see myself out...

that's how crude i am (or just have a very dirty mind... ;-P) i laughed at your comment, and i am still smiling a couple of minutes later.

it's been a rough day emotionally so thank you for being the second thing after my cats to make me laugh today!!!

[catrox14]

I'm here to help. :)

[stormborn]

 

She likes red wine, but I don't know how much of a connoisseur she is.

 

Ahh!! I am forever mad that the show has never revisited the greatness that could've been wino!Felicity (i say that as a fellow wino myself). Like maybe she keeps a bottle of cheap red under her desk in the Arrow Lair and after a long day of crime fighting, she pulls the bottle out and just takes it to the head whilst Oliver and Digg look on in disbelief. That's a great sight gag just begging to happen. 

Edited July 10, 2014 by stormborn

[BkWurm1]

Like maybe she keeps a bottle of cheap red under her desk in the Arrow Lair and after a long day of crime fighting, she pulls the bottle out and just takes it to the head whilst Oliver and Digg look on in disbelief. That's a great sight gag just begging to happen.

 

What?  Are you trying to get the writers to make Felicity and Laurel bond at AA meetings or something?? ;)

[AnyoneButYou]

At least Felicity would probably be a fun drunk. She wouldn't throw stuff. Look how fun she was on those "aspirins."

[Password]

Ahh!! I am forever mad that the show has never revisited the greatness that could've been wino!Felicity (i say that as a fellow wino myself). Like maybe she keeps a bottle of cheap red under her desk in the Arrow Lair and after a long day of crime fighting, she pulls the bottle out and just takes it to the head whilst Oliver and Digg look on in disbelief. That's a great sight gag just begging to happen.

What?  Are you trying to get the writers to make Felicity and Laurel bond at AA meetings or something?? ;)

Both scenarios would have me dying of laughter especially Felicity pulling out a bottle and Dig and Oliver looking on in disbelief. Laurel was a fun drunk in my opinion with the exploding glasses. I don't think Felicity has that super power.

[calliope1975]

Felicity even recognized that the Lafite Rothschild was a red wine which is more than I could do. I would've been all - is that some sort of alcohol? So, she's not just a casual wine drinker. 

 

And yes, I'm all for drunk Felicity at some point. 

[stormborn]

 

What?  Are you trying to get the writers to make Felicity and Laurel bond at AA meetings or something?? ;)

 

Oh god, I shouldn't have even put that out into the ether because I wouldn't put it past them.

 

"Felicity and Laurel coming together through their shared issues with alcohol is us giving you the show you need..." 

Edited July 10, 2014 by stormborn

[TwistedandBored]

 No. I don't want Laurel anywhere near Felicity. 

[TanyaKay]

 No. I don't want Laurel anywhere near Felicity. 

 

yups, neither do I. Felicity is cool and fun and awesome and she should be kept away from all things weird, whiney, and clumpy mascara.

 

Laurel, you stay in your little corner like DA's office and your dad's home and Felicity, you do your thing where you are required to, like the Arrow Lair, QC, your cute little townhouse and wherever Oliver is taking you on your first date.

[Password]

A new Vertigo should bring up some unpleasant memories for Felicity (and even Oliver). I wonder if they'll ever allow Felicity to suffer some sort of PTSD. She's been through a few ordeals now where her life has been in danger. At some point these things will pile up.

[HighwayFlower]

I love Sara and Caity Lotz, but if there had to be a magical jacket passing, it actually would have made sense if Sara had given to Felicty and I could totally get behind Felicity becoming a tech wiz/Black Canary with Sara's blessing. She has been working on the team and more then proved herself with Slade. I could see Sara giving her the jacket based on that. The training would be an issue, but no more then with Laurel.

If only the show had the balls to do it. Sara giving it to Laurel for no reason was ridiculous.

[BkWurm1]

Yesterday. 3:42 pm

I love Sara and Caity Lotz, but if there had to be a magical jacket passing, it actually would have made sense if Sara had given to Felicty and I could totally get behind Felicity becoming a tech wiz/Black Canary with Sara's blessing

 

And as absurd as my gut tells me this would be, it  just reinforces IMO how terrible an idea and how silly and sloppy an execution is the passing of the magic leather jacket to Laurel.  Laurel IS IMO so much father away from do the super hero thing than Felicity.  I desperately don't want Felicity to become a costumed hero but yeah, Sara handing it to Felicity makes more sense than giving it to Laurel who just found out about this world. 

[TwistedandBored]

For some reason, I don't want Felicity to be a costumed hero. I like her just the way she is. To me, she is one of the superheroes of Arrow. However, she does need a codename for when they are communicating with one another as a group. They can't keep using her real name. 

[TanyaKay]

I agree, Felicity does not need a costume, she is perfect the way she is. A little bit of self defense training is rational given her life but her skill set is different and should remain that way.

[MsSchadenfreude]

Unless Felicity is going to a costume party, I do not want to see her in a superhero costume.  It wouldn't make sense for her character. Felicity is smart enough to know not everyone needs a costume to be a hero and take down the bad guys.  (It's a lesson someone else on the show could probably stand to learn)

[doesntworkonwood]

I think Felicity does sort of have a 'costume'. The blonde hair, the glasses, the short(ish) dresses and the heels all make up an 'iconic' look for her, which I think is almost as iconic as Oliver's hood. I'm certain that if anyone were to show me some outfits of hers, I'd easily be able to point out why the clothes belong to her and how they fit with previous outfits of hers.

 

I really don't need Felicity running around in leather trousers, shooting people. Admittedly, some self defense training would make sense, but she should stick to what she's best at, which is her computers.

 

I think Felicity is a Hero in her own right, as much as Diggle and Oliver are. She helps to save the city in her own way, and without her intelligence and without her ability to gain information, the team would not be able to do as much as they do as successfully as they do. She's a vital member of the team, which is shown by the fact that she's there through the criticism of the show (I'm pretty sure people criticised the pilot because there was no way that Oliver would be so technologically advanced after having spent five years on an 'Island')

 

Like all hero's, Felicity has her strengths and weaknesses. Fixing her 'weaknesses' by turning her into Black Canary 3.0 isn't the answer, rather the show should focus on her strengths by showing us how amazing and useful she is with her computers, and not diminish that by considering her to be a weak woman just because she doesn't run around in fishnets.

[Velocity23]

 

They truly like to do parallels with Felicity and Oliver. 

[Ceylon5]

From the Heartaches Thread:

I think more could have been done with the rumor that Felicity and Oliver are seeing each other.  We never got to see Felicity react to that gossip or see if it effects her.  Are her old friends in the IT department treating her differently?  I imagine they would be confused about why Felicity would be an EA rather than continue in the field of her expertise.  Would they  see it as confirmation of the rumors?  I just need them to let her have one non-Oliver connected friend to have these types of conversations with.

 

I agree.  Given how charming and friendly Felicity is (and how competent at her job), I find it hard to believe that she didn't have plenty of friends in the IT Department.  Even though she doesn't have a lot of free time anymore, she can still text and e-mail and call people, and she has lunch and weekends (daytime at least), so she could still meet up with friends and do stuff.  Also, what about her friends from MIT - surely she made at least one long-lasting friend?  What kind of person would make friends with the likes of Felicity Smoak and not keep in touch with her?  Given that we've never even seen her home, though, she could have tons of friends we just don't know about.  As far as being truthful with them is concerned, she could dodge around having to explain her night-time activities easily enough - it's not the same with friends as it is with boyfriends or family, who are far more in one's space.  But how she explained her sudden job change and her closeness with Oliver without people thinking there was more to it than she was saying, I don't know.  And I'd really like to know!

Edited July 20, 2014 by Ceylon5

[TwistedandBored]

I am honestly interested in her MIT days. I don't need a flashback to those days. Just the occasional one line or two lines about her life there. 

[Ceylon5]

It's just occurred to me that the writers actually use Felicity's lack of verbal filter the same way they would usually use a friend or confidant.  Because she's so honest in what she says (sometimes intentionally, sometimes not), you generally know what's going on in her head at any given moment.  Rather than have her confide in a friend about how hot she thinks Oliver is, for example, they just have her make embarrassing Freudian slips instead.  They've used that as a crutch or a short-cut to save them the trouble of having to give her a life of her own.  That worked okay in the beginning when she only played a bit part, but now they're just cheating us out of character development by making her tell us everything herself (and she's actually told us very little of a personal nature), instead of showing us more about her life.  Spend some money, show, and give Felicity a home, a mother and at least one pre-Oliver friend!  She deserves at least that much, surely?

[Password]

The show has incorporated our lack of knowledge about Felicity's past or personal life in a way that makes her seem very closed off, and someone who uses humour to hide from things. I already pretty much summed that up myself because it's an easy tactic, particularly now that we know her relationship with mama Smoak probably isn't fun (although perhaps mama Smoak is just overbearing), and and daddy Smoak ran away. They basically have a blank canvas to work with concerning Felicity and they can throw pretty much anything at us concerning her past as long as it keeps in line with her character.

 

As long as none of the shenanigans of the Tockman episode comes up (although if daddy arrives they may well) then I think it'll be ok. They really have no reason not to give Felicity some agency outside of Oliver to make us see her as a more fleshed out character. Diggle has Lyla, Afghanistan, Suicide Squad and H.I.V.E which includes Deadshot. Lots to work with. We have a few give away lines from Felicity about her past.

 

She's the most popular character (IMO) but we know the least about her. For shame. For that reason alone I really hope they end up in Vegas because that has fun written all over it. Not just fun, but the kind of fun we had in season 1 with the Merlyn job where team Arrow worked together.

[Advance35]

I have a question.   Why does everyone seem to regard the idea of Felicity as an Executive Assistant with such derision?  I don't get it.   Maybe because I'm an EA in real life but if one is an EA to a CEO that's actually an accomplishment, trust, they have a very HIGH turn-over rate for a variety of reasons.

 

I would have no problem if Felicity managed to hang onto the job of EA to the new CEO of Queen Enterprises.

[Ceylon5]

Firstly because Felicity loves computers and has a degree from MIT in (I presume) that field.  Oliver forced her to do a job she wasn't trained for and had no interest in and took her away from a job she loved (given that she's kind of a genius, I would think that she's actually over-qualified for both the jobs she had at QC, but at least she enjoyed her IT work and chose that job).  Secondly, Oliver had zero training, ability or interest in being a CEO, which just made Felicity's job suck even more.  To add insult to injury, she would probably have made a vastly more qualified and competent CEO than he did (if she had the inclination, which I imagine she does not), which must have just been plain aggravating.  And lastly, because he didn't ask her.  He just bulldozed over her and made her do what he wanted.

[Morrigan2575]

I have a question.   Why does everyone seem to regard the idea of Felicity as an Executive Assistant with such derision?  I don't get it.   Maybe because I'm an EA in real life but if one is an EA to a CEO that's actually an accomplishment, trust, they have a very HIGH turn-over rate for a variety of reasons.

 

I would have know problem if Felicity managed to hang onto the job of EA to the new CEO of Queen Enterprises.

Coming from someone with a technical background I'd find it pretty much to be a demotion and well beneath me to be an EA to a CEO...I wouldn't even care about the pay because it's not even remotely close to what I know I can do, nor something I would enjoy doing.  Not to mention the fact that I just know (In my bones) that these producers thought it would be funny...and never would have considered making Felix the Male IT Genius Oliver's EA.  That wouldn't have been as funny as the pretty blonde girl getting accused of wearing too short skirts and sleeping with her boss.

 

Plus...everything @Ceylon5 mentioned.

Edited July 21, 2014 by Morrigan2575

[Ceylon5]

Oh, yes, thanks @Morrigan2575, I forgot a biggie there - the fact that her "promotion" was so peculiar and out of left field that everyone assumed she had to be sleeping with Oliver to get the job!  She deserves better than that!

[Sakura12]

There's nothing wrong with being an EA to a CEO it is a good position. But for someone whose skills were in a completely different field like Felicity it makes no sense. She went to MIT for computer science so her career trajectory would be more like IT dept to Network Admin or something. Being an EA is not even in her skill set and it takes her away from what she does best. It's like say you were an art teacher that loved their job then someone just took you away from that job and made you an accountant. That's not a skill set you have nor a position you wanted to be in. That's what it is for Felicity. 

 

So like most everyone here, I hope Felicity gets back into the IT dept. next season. But I don't see that being the case since they need her to interact with the new CEO probably on somewhat daily basis. She can't do that in the IT dept. of a company as large as QC. Since I don't imagine he'll find her randomly and ask for favors like Oliver did. 

[KirkB]

The whole point of Felicity becoming Oliver's EA had nothing to do with her job skills. They needed an excuse for Felicity to be close to Oliver all the time, so they could run off to the Arrowcave without arousing suspicion. Yes, Felicity was probably qualified to run Queen Consolidated's IT department (or for all I know, R&D) but doing that would have kept her away from Oliver and too busy to help him.

Edited July 21, 2014 by KirkB

[Ceylon5]

Making her take that job wasn't about Felicity's job, though, it was about Oliver's.  In season 1, before he became CEO, Felicity didn't have any trouble juggling her work and her Arrow stuff.  It was Oliver who needed an EA who wouldn't give him grief for being so crap at his job.  He wanted someone in the know next to him while he didn't do his CEO stuff to simplify his life and only Felicity could fill that role for him.  His comment about not being able to go to her in the IT department was stupid - ever heard of e-mail, Oliver?  Or texting?  Or phoning?  Or whatever he did the whole of the previous year when he didn't even work at QC?

 

And going forward in the coming year, he presumably can't expect her not to have a job or earn a pay-check, just so she can be at his beck and call 24/7!

[KirkB]

Making her take that job wasn't about Felicity's job, though, it was about Oliver's.

 

   Well of course it was. Oliver is the star of the show, was the CEO at the time, and is just a wee bit self centered even now. Everything was and is about him and his mission. I don't think he was being intentionally trying to demean Felicity though, nor do I think he spent much time considering how making her his EA might make her look to the rest of the company. He needed the person best at what they do at his side and that was Felicity.

[Morrigan2575]

   Well of course it was. Oliver is the star of the show, was the CEO at the time, and is just a wee bit self centered even now. Everything was and is about him and his mission. I don't think he was being intentionally trying to demean Felicity though, nor do I think he spent much time considering how making her his EA might make her look to the rest of the company. He needed the person best at what they do at his side and that was Felicity.

In show, my objection was that Oliver made the decision without discussing it with Felicity and that it was a demotion and a bit demeaning.  However, at the time (in show) I also understood that Oliver needed the support and that he was partially fair in that Felicity/Diggle brought him back from the Island and forced him back into Arrow and QC so they could help him out since he needed it.

 

My main objections, were mostly (out of show) i just felt like the EPs were sitting around the writers room, thought it would be funny.  The big thing though is that it was totally unnecessary because they dropped that fight for QC plot like a hot potato after 208.  So really what was the necessity of having Felicity as his EA?  Because it really didn't seem necessary to the main S2 plot at all.  Other than Isabel's irrational hatred for Felicity which the producers didn't even think was worth explaining, what would have changed in S2 with Felicity not being Oliver's EA?

Edited July 21, 2014 by Morrigan2575

[Sunshine]

As Oliver's EA, she was also free to come and go all hours of the day and night with him as needed.  If she is working in IT and he needs something Arrow related at 2:00pm outside the office he can't very well just say let's go.  She has at least the head of the department to answer to.  Hanging around at 9:00pm at an investors' party also raises eyebrows if she is just IT personnel.  No one thought twice about Diggle because he was the driver/bodyguard.  His EA was about the only thing she could be without someone questioning why she was with him all the time.  Also as his EA, no one would be suspicious of her conversing with the driver/bodyguard frequently.  I don't know what other position would make her available all the time without raising questions.  (Example:  Russia).

Edited July 21, 2014 by Sunshine

[Ceylon5]

If I recall correctly, there was an episode when something was happening in the daytime and Oliver was running around the city (I think it was S01E18 with the guy on the subway train who was murdering people he thought had let down the people in the Glades) and Oliver specifically said that he couldn't dress in his Arrow clothes because it was daytime.  From that, I basically concluded that being Arrow is essentially a night-time activity only.  Sure, they can follow up on leads and stuff in the daytime (which Felicity can, and does, do from pretty much anywhere with wifi), but the bulk of what they do happens at night.  And that daytime episode happened while Felicity was working in the IT department, so either it was the weekend, or she had the day off, or Oliver went to the IT department and told them he needed her (they're not going to say 'no' to a Queen).  Later, as CEO, he certainly could have commandeered her time as he chose, regardless of where at QC she worked.

 

They never indicated that Felicity's job in any way impacted her Arrow contributions negatively in Season 1, and I'm willing to guess they never will going forward either if she has jobs that don't have her working directly with Oliver in the future.  That was just an unnecessary plot contrivance played for laughs, as @Morrigan2575 pointed out.  Yes, it initially made things marginally easier for Oliver and his 'mission'; that's why he did it.  My contention is that her sacrifice far, far outweighed any minor benefits of convenience that came out of it.  Having willingly given half her life to Arrow's cause, I thought it was beyond selfish and thoughtless of Oliver to think he could hijack the other half of her life (which affects her career and her reputation) without so much as a by your leave.  And given that he essentially stopped going into the office entirely after the first couple of months (remember her bringing him stacks of messages from the office which he told her to throw away?), he did all that for nothing in the end.  The ends did not justify the means at all and I wish she'd stuck to her guns and refused to let him bully her into it.  She needs to occasionally put herself first and Oliver should get his head out of his ass (as Felicity would put it)!

[apinknightmare]

If I recall correctly, there was an episode when something was happening in the daytime and Oliver was running around the city (I think it was S01E18 with the guy on the subway train who was murdering people he thought had let down the people in the Glades) and Oliver specifically said that he couldn't dress in his Arrow clothes because it was daytime.  From that, I basically concluded that being Arrow is essentially a night-time activity only.  Sure, they can follow up on leads and stuff in the daytime (which Felicity can, and does, do from pretty much anywhere with wifi), but the bulk of what they do happens at night.  And that daytime episode happened while Felicity was working in the IT department, so either it was the weekend, or she had the day off, or Oliver went to the IT department and told them he needed her (they're not going to say 'no' to a Queen).  Later, as CEO, he certainly could have commandeered her time as he chose, regardless of where at QC she worked.

 

They never indicated that Felicity's job in any way impacted her Arrow contributions negatively in Season 1, and I'm willing to guess they never will going forward either if she has jobs that don't have her working directly with Oliver in the future.  That was just an unnecessary plot contrivance played for laughs, as @Morrigan2575 pointed out.  Yes, it initially made things marginally easier for Oliver and his 'mission'; that's why he did it.  My contention is that her sacrifice far, far outweighed any minor benefits of convenience that came out of it.  Having willingly given half her life to Arrow's cause, I thought it was beyond selfish and thoughtless of Oliver to think he could hijack the other half of her life (which affects her career and her reputation) without so much as a by your leave.  And given that he essentially stopped going into the office entirely after the first couple of months (remember her bringing him stacks of messages from the office which he told her to throw away?), he did all that for nothing in the end.  The ends did not justify the means at all and I wish she'd stuck to her guns and refused to let him bully her into it.  She needs to occasionally put herself first and Oliver should get his head out of his ass (as Felicity would put it)!

 

I think Oliver's a jackass and he is selfish, and he never should've made any personnel moves with regards to Felicity's job without consulting her first. And while he COULD have commandeered her time regardless of where she was working within QC, that would've been one of the stupidest things he could've done. If the rumors were bad when Felicity was "promoted," just think of how awful they would've been if Oliver randomly dragged her off whenever he needed her (presumably to somewhere private, since, if he had an EA, his office would've been off-limits). To arouse the least suspicion, he needed her close. I wouldn't have minded her being his EA if he had asked her first and she agreed. That's my whole issue with it.

 

While I'm sure she did a lot of QC work in her post as an EA, she spent a great deal of her time working on Arrow business (she did interrupt Oliver several times during the day with case "updates"). A part of me that wants to believe something good of Oliver hopes that another reason he moved her was partially so she'd get compensated for her work "outside" of QC as well.

 

None of this really matters at this point though, I doubt she'll ever work for him again. Although I wouldn't be surprised if there is an instance (or more) of Oliver needing something during the day and contacting either Felicity or Diggle, with them having to tell him no, they can't help him right now.

[wonderwall]

Hopefully the writers know just how much Oliver still needs to grow especially in the 'thinking about others' department. Oliver is careless, thoughtless, and doesn't think half the time when it comes to his relationships with other people. I hope we will eventually see Oliver grow to be more conscientious, sympathetic, thoughtful towards others as the seasons go. 

 

How could the writers accomplish this? By using Felicity and Diggle, of course! They keep him on line, they don't baby him or brush his issues under the rug like everyone else in his life (bar Sara). That is what Oliver needs: tough love. 

 

Only then will I be completely convinced that Oliver deserves someone like Felicity. 

[Ceylon5]

And while he COULD have commandeered her time regardless of where she was working within QC, that would've been one of the stupidest things he could've done. If the rumors were bad when Felicity was "promoted," just think of how awful they would've been if Oliver randomly dragged her off whenever he needed her (presumably to somewhere private, since, if he had an EA, his office would've been off-limits). 

 

It would have been a lot better to be thought of as Oliver's "secret" girlfriend, surely, than to be thought of as having slept her way into a job promotion?

 

Even if she never works for/with Oliver again, for as long as she's at QC, that's going to hang over her.  It could even follow her to other jobs at other companies.  And there will surely be questions about her odd resume.  This would have long-term affects in the real world; hopefully in the story it will be quickly resolved and she'll be given a job more in keeping with her skills and interests.

[apinknightmare]

It would have been a lot better to be thought of as Oliver's "secret" girlfriend, surely, than to be thought of as having slept her way into a job promotion?

 

Even if she never works for/with Oliver again, for as long as she's at QC, that's going to hang over her.  It could even follow her to other jobs at other companies.  And there will surely be questions about her odd resume.  This would have long-term affects in the real world; hopefully in the story it will be quickly resolved and she'll be given a job more in keeping with her skills and interests.

 

Yeah, I'm not really sure there's much difference between people thinking Felicity got a promotion because she slept with the boss and people thinking she was just plain sleeping with him. There would be gossip regardless - what she gets out of it hardly matters. I mean, if she stayed in IT and Oliver dragged her away for clandestine meetings, there would be rumors that she was getting something out of it anyway. Not to mention, she couldn't have gotten a promotion in that scenario - her coworkers would've attributed that to her relationship with Oliver, too. There's no winning for her either way.

 

Given the spoilers/BTS pics I've seen, I'm not confident they're going to address this or course correct in S3, but here's hoping they're going a different route.

Edited July 21, 2014 by apinknightmare

[Ceylon5]

Yours is kind of the worst case scenario.  I tend to think that because Oliver started coming to see Felicity in the IT department long before he became CEO, I don't believe anyone would really have drawn any nefarious conclusions about her having a relationship with him that happened to continue after he became CEO, provided he had just left her to do her thing as she had been doing.  Any promotions she earned within the IT department would happen internally and not involve Oliver, and given how brilliant she is at IT stuff, I doubt that any of her colleagues would honestly think that any promotion she got in that department was unearned, especially if she and Oliver weren't "going public" with their assumed relationship.  Also, he was only CEO for a short while, and there's no reason to assume she would have been promoted during those months, anyway, so the point would be moot.  If she'd just stayed in that job, Oliver's stint as CEO would have soon been over, and her life would have continued peacefully on its way.  No dings on her resume, no taint on her reputation.

 

Besides, I don't think he would have needed to take her off anywhere during the work day, so none of this is really relevant.  They could have communicated just fine by phone or whatever.  It was all very contrived and very irritating!

Edited July 22, 2014 by Ceylon5

[Advance35]

Well real world I can guarantee I make MUCH more than the Head of the IT Department, so in terms of monetary compensation, I could see Felicity's appointment as EA to CEO as a promotion.

 

But as some in this forum have pointed out,  I think it also made logistical sense for her to fill that role while Oliver was CEO.   There were cases where they rushed FROM the office out to wherever, an example being when they went to the QC Storage Facility and met Barry.   What would an IT associate be doing there with the CEO?

 

I don't know, I just get why Oliver thought it would be a good idea and I get why Felicity made her displeasure known but ultimately acquiesed. 

 

Yeah, I'm not really sure there's much difference between people thinking Felicity got a promotion because she slept with the boss and people thinking she was just plain sleeping with him. There would be gossip regardless - what she gets out of it hardly matters. I mean, if she stayed in IT and Oliver dragged her away for clandestine meetings, there would be rumors that she was getting something out of it anyway. Not to mention, she couldn't have gotten a promotion in that scenario - her coworkers would've attributed that to her relationship with Oliver, too. There's no winning for her either way

 

As someone who works in an office with politics that border on "Game of Thrones" brutality, I think this is VERY likely.    And I agree with upthread, it could have been interesting seeing Felicity try and tackle this during Season 2.   It could have been a way to foster the antagonism between Isabel and Felicity in a unique way.

[Tallis]

Yeah, I'm not really sure there's much difference between people thinking Felicity got a promotion because she slept with the boss and people thinking she was just plain sleeping with him. There would be gossip regardless - what she gets out of it hardly matters. I mean, if she stayed in IT and Oliver dragged her away for clandestine meetings, there would be rumors that she was getting something out of it anyway. Not to mention, she couldn't have gotten a promotion in that scenario - her coworkers would've attributed that to her relationship with Oliver, too. There's no winning for her either way.

I suppose the one silver lining is that, were she still working in the IT Dept., it would have ended up becoming a very very unpleasant work enviroment for her once the gossip and rumours really took hold. At least as Oliver's EA she didn't have to deal with snarky/hostile colleagues her entire work day. But you're right, she really couldn't win.

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I suppose the one silver lining is that, were she still working in the IT Dept., it would have ended up becoming a very very unpleasant work enviroment for her once the gossip and rumours really took hold. At least as Oliver's EA she didn't have to deal with snarky/hostile colleagues her entire work day. But you're right, she really couldn't win.

 

   That's a good point actually. From the viewpoint of outsiders in the company, any job Felicity had at QC would be suspect and make her somewhat unpopular among her colleagues given she was running off at inopportune moments to spend time with the boss. Regardless of whether she was an EA, head of the IT department, or a board member, jumping whenever Oliver called would have affected her status. Especially given Oliver's history, it would be assumed she was sleeping with him, not so much for her job but because that's what Oliver Queen does. Who she is and what she does or does not do wouldn't matter in the court of public opinion. Not that any of this would bother Oliver. Back in the day I really don't think he much cared about what anyone except maybe Moira thought. Felicity probably could not have worked for QC very long while Oliver was in charge, unless she wasn't worried about what people thought. The problem is, if she goes back to work there, won't she be in the same boat if she gets involved with the new head of QC?

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   The problem is, if she goes back to work there, won't she be in the same boat if she gets involved with the new head of QC?

 

My thoughts exactly. It seems like the same situation, regardless of whether or not Felicity is Ray's EA. She'd be once again sleeping with the boss. I really want to see how they handle this particular love interest and whether or not they address this time what people's opinions would be of Felicity.