alexa April 10, 2020 Share April 10, 2020 2 hours ago, teapot said: I know a lot of people don’t like Katie that much, but ...really, Tori??? I can’t watch the video. Can you summarize? It did cause me to look at recent news, and she is getting slammed for wanting to charge for a meet and greet. Didn’t go so well with fans. And her daughter posed as a ghetto person on Instagram, and Tori had to take that down too. Oh dear! Lol 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-6055807
teapot April 10, 2020 Share April 10, 2020 Sorry! It’s that Without a Crystal Ball vlog. Basically, Tori is charging fans $95 for a 1 minute face time call. When there was back lash, Dean gets on Instagram & starts ranting that his wife has every right to provide for her family. He actually said, if you visited your friend who was a computer programmer and he was working from home, would you say *he* was greedy? smh. Not. The. Same. Thing. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-6056170
DangerousMinds April 10, 2020 Share April 10, 2020 5 hours ago, alexa said: I can’t watch the video. Can you summarize? It did cause me to look at recent news, and she is getting slammed for wanting to charge for a meet and greet. Didn’t go so well with fans. And her daughter posed as a ghetto person on Instagram, and Tori had to take that down too. Oh dear! Lol A “ghetto person?” Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-6056278
alexa April 10, 2020 Share April 10, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, DangerousMinds said: A “ghetto person?” Yes, do a quick google search of Tori Spelling and click news. Tori had no idea it would offend anyone lol. They were just being creative. Omg. 7 hours ago, teapot said: Sorry! It’s that Without a Crystal Ball vlog. Basically, Tori is charging fans $95 for a 1 minute face time call. When there was back lash, Dean gets on Instagram & starts ranting that his wife has every right to provide for her family. He actually said, if you visited your friend who was a computer programmer and he was working from home, would you say *he* was greedy? smh. Not. The. Same. Thing. That is funny. I saw the articles of Dean yet again defending his wife. They are such a joke and out of touch. Edited April 10, 2020 by alexa 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-6056417
TheRealT August 22, 2020 Share August 22, 2020 Tori is still whining about Dean's infidelity and now she's got the kids in on it (which was inevitable). Is it really a thing to "forgive" your partner for (allegedly one-time) infidelity, go through a huge process which includes therapy, humiliating him on TV, and whining endlessly to anyone who will listen for months and months, but then you get to keep talking about it, even doing media interviews, forever? And the thing is, you'd think Tori would be more understanding about (allegedly one-time) infidelity since she cheated on her husband with Dean, having sex with him the day they met, and left her husband for him. Like, how can someone who does that have the attitude that infidelity, no matter how (allegedly) meaningless and short-term, is THE WORST THING EVER? I'm not even defending Dean because I can't stand him either, but her complete lack of self-awareness, coupled with her complete self-absorption, is stunning. 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-6302332
Picture It. Sicily August 22, 2020 Share August 22, 2020 She makes a living parading their private lives for all to see, produces a reality show based on them dealing with his infidelity, then is shocked that their daughter found out about Dad's cheating on google? Is she for real? She can't be this stupid. 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-6303409
Iris987 August 27, 2020 Share August 27, 2020 On 8/23/2020 at 5:11 AM, Picture It. Sicily said: She makes a living parading their private lives for all to see, produces a reality show based on them dealing with his infidelity, then is shocked that their daughter found out about Dad's cheating on google? This is what drives me crazy about these two. The kids were always going to find out (although I'm pretty sure they already knew, even if they didn't understand what it meant) because Tori and Dean are celebrity adjacent but she then runs to the paps and tells them about it? THIS is why the older two got so horribly bullied at school. Every moment of their parents train wreck of a marriage has been public. Their father talks about every sex act he's tried on their mother and his sex addiction on his podcast. Their mother documents every neurosis she has and forces them to be part of every product she shills on Instagram. Kids are horrible. I'd bet my life this is the stuff that they were harassed with. Yet she keeps doing it. She also needs to stop adopting animals. She can't take care of herself or her children. I'm fairly sure those animals aren't thriving either. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-6312526
TheRealT August 27, 2020 Share August 27, 2020 10 hours ago, Iris987 said: She also needs to stop adopting animals. She can't take care of herself or her children. I'm fairly sure those animals aren't thriving either. Remember when she killed that baby pig when she was in a manic spiral and impulsively bought it? And then made it all about herself and how she was in a manic spiral, so she shouldn't be blamed for killing the pig (and probably traumatizing the kids). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-6313282
alexa November 1, 2020 Share November 1, 2020 I was looking at her most recent pics on Instagram. I think she is auditioning for the Real Housewives based on her latest pics. I have never seen her with so many fillers, etc. Also, her dislike of Hattie still shows. She literally picked the most unflattering picture of her in her slideshow (the most recent pic, last in the group of pics). 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-6429223
alexa September 4, 2021 Share September 4, 2021 Well, so she is pretty much not with Dean anymore it seems. But I am so saddened to see what she has done to herself. I guess someone offered her free surgery for her face and body, because she is still broke. That is her on the left. If you scroll down in her feed you can see more normal pics. https://www.instagram.com/p/CTYevdCHEFH/ 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-6987456
MargeGunderson September 4, 2021 Share September 4, 2021 Wow, she looks like Khloe Kardashian there. Not original Khloe, but the one that doesn’t look like her anymore either. 1 2 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-6987968
GaT September 5, 2021 Share September 5, 2021 16 hours ago, alexa said: Well, so she is pretty much not with Dean anymore it seems. But I am so saddened to see what she has done to herself. I guess someone offered her free surgery for her face and body, because she is still broke. That is her on the left. If you scroll down in her feed you can see more normal pics. https://www.instagram.com/p/CTYevdCHEFH/ 8 hours ago, MargeGunderson said: Wow, she looks like Khloe Kardashian there. Not original Khloe, but the one that doesn’t look like her anymore either. She really does look like Khloe! And how sad that you have to specify which Khloe face she looks like 🤣 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-6988357
jcbrown September 5, 2021 Share September 5, 2021 She looks dreadful. Verging into Uncanny Valley territory. Where did you see she and Dean have split?, @alexa? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-6988372
alexa September 5, 2021 Share September 5, 2021 5 hours ago, jcbrown said: She looks dreadful. Verging into Uncanny Valley territory. Where did you see she and Dean have split?, @alexa? There have been news articles speculating, and he hasn’t been shown or mentioned in a long time. One of the articles stated they couldn’t afford a divorce. Lol. He was working for a while, but it still seems they aren’t much of a couple right now. I think her new look also kind of trends towards the single Beverly Hill divorcee, lol. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-6988458
LemonSoda September 9, 2021 Share September 9, 2021 New show? Tori’s Single Life? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-6996810
Stuckathome December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 On 9/9/2021 at 5:43 PM, LemonSoda said: New show? Tori’s Single Life? Oh, absolutely.....it will be such a trainwreck. She was spotted coming out of a divorce lawyer's office yelling into her phone when they photog zoomed in on her notepad the words "assets" and custody etc were there......Dean-o was also left out of the family Xmas pic and doesn't have a stocking. I remember watching the last season of whatever iteration of show she had and feeling so sorry for her kids and Dean. He actually seemed like a decent guy who would be a "normal" dad to those kids and give them some structure. I would not doubt that Tori has some serious mental health issue--bipolar? developing schizophrenia? Something brought on by so many pregnancies back to back? Who knows, but I too remember the incident with the baby piglet. I think Dean stayed as long as he did more for his kids than her money (cause it seems like they are always broke and being chased by creditors). 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7162809
LemonSoda December 9, 2021 Share December 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Stuckathome said: Oh, absolutely.....it will be such a trainwreck. She was spotted coming out of a divorce lawyer's office yelling into her phone when they photog zoomed in on her notepad the words "assets" and custody etc were there......Dean-o was also left out of the family Xmas pic and doesn't have a stocking. I remember watching the last season of whatever iteration of show she had and feeling so sorry for her kids and Dean. He actually seemed like a decent guy who would be a "normal" dad to those kids and give them some structure. I would not doubt that Tori has some serious mental health issue--bipolar? developing schizophrenia? Something brought on by so many pregnancies back to back? Who knows, but I too remember the incident with the baby piglet. I think Dean stayed as long as he did more for his kids than her money (cause it seems like they are always broke and being chased by creditors). I missed some of their shows over the years but he seemed the most natural with the household stuff. Does anyone remember their Food Network Thanksgiving show? Dean handled all the cooking and Tori made a crazy table scape that ended up not fitting on the table. Which going back to older posts it’s a shame with their combined talents they had to reduce themselves to tabloid crap. Tori can’t seem to stick to anything long enough to let it grow. She seems to be beyond emotionally needy. I can see her pouting or getting a migraine when she feels she’s not getting the attention she needs. All the money stuff makes me laugh because they’ve had money troubles since the very beginning. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7164126
Stuckathome December 9, 2021 Share December 9, 2021 11 hours ago, LemonSoda said: Which going back to older posts it’s a shame with their combined talents they had to reduce themselves to tabloid crap. This....100%. It kills me when these people whine about how they just want a normal life. OK, then go get it! I mean, with her connections and talents she could have been a very successful party planner or PR person or something along those lines. She wouldn't have even had to do the grunt work, she could have started the company and run it as a figurehead type, while Dean continued to work in his B movies and helped raise the kids outside the Hollywood spotlight. I mean, isn't that sort of what her brother does? I never hear about him in the tabloids really.......Just saying there are plenty of people who are actors and actresses, B and lower level, who manage to make a living and raise a family without all this tabloid drama. But, this is Tori and she CRAVES the paps and attention and glamour. Too bad she wasn't born with any good looks or acting talent. Sadly, she discovered her talent was popping out babies (that she really has no interest in parenting) and I think she thrived on the attention she got when she was pregnant and all the associated drama ("OMG I almost DIED during my last pregnancy! I shouldn't be pregnant again but oops we can't afford a vasectomy! ") 1 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7164831
LemonSoda December 9, 2021 Share December 9, 2021 36 minutes ago, Stuckathome said: This....100%. It kills me when these people whine about how they just want a normal life. OK, then go get it! I mean, with her connections and talents she could have been a very successful party planner or PR person or something along those lines. She wouldn't have even had to do the grunt work, she could have started the company and run it as a figurehead type, while Dean continued to work in his B movies and helped raise the kids outside the Hollywood spotlight. I mean, isn't that sort of what her brother does? I never hear about him in the tabloids really.......Just saying there are plenty of people who are actors and actresses, B and lower level, who manage to make a living and raise a family without all this tabloid drama. But, this is Tori and she CRAVES the paps and attention and glamour. Too bad she wasn't born with any good looks or acting talent. Sadly, she discovered her talent was popping out babies (that she really has no interest in parenting) and I think she thrived on the attention she got when she was pregnant and all the associated drama ("OMG I almost DIED during my last pregnancy! I shouldn't be pregnant again but oops we can't afford a vasectomy! ") I’ve always wondered what the pay check was for “Inn Love” because that’s what started the reality and over sharing hamster wheel they can’t seem to stay off of. Before that both had careers. Dean was never going to be an Oscar contender but he’s a good actor. Until their reality train he was a working actor. He might’ve ended up getting a regular part on a series. Plenty of working actors out there do just fine. Tori’s poor money management and attention seeking seems to destroy everything. I know I’ve been broken record annoying on here but it kills me that two people with so much, who have been given so much opportunity haven’t been able to create anything successful or sustainable. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7164906
Tatum December 10, 2021 Share December 10, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 8:36 AM, LemonSoda said: I’ve always wondered what the pay check was for “Inn Love” because that’s what started the reality and over sharing hamster wheel they can’t seem to stay off of. Before that both had careers. Dean was never going to be an Oscar contender but he’s a good actor. Until their reality train he was a working actor. He might’ve ended up getting a regular part on a series. Plenty of working actors out there do just fine. Tori’s poor money management and attention seeking seems to destroy everything. I know I’ve been broken record annoying on here but it kills me that two people with so much, who have been given so much opportunity haven’t been able to create anything successful or sustainable. Tori could have survived just fine on a more modest lifestyle (which is still way more luxurious than the average Joe). I remember this was the girl (she was still working on the 90210 original series then, so she was probably like 22-23 at the time) who proudly bragged to People magazine (or something of that ilk) that she left her house/apartment and moved into a $500/night hotel- bear in mind, this was like 1994, not $500 in 2021- because the presence of a kitchen in her living space offended her. It didn't matter that she didn't have to use it, she didn't even want to see it. She just has no concept of money. I think her parents really crippled her and Candy continues to enable her. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7167314
Stuckathome December 13, 2021 Share December 13, 2021 On 12/10/2021 at 11:33 AM, Tatum said: She just has no concept of money. I think her parents really crippled her and Candy continues to enable her. I agree.....but, again, her brother seems to be doing just fine and he had the same experience. 2 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7173428
LemonSoda January 4, 2022 Share January 4, 2022 On 12/10/2021 at 8:33 AM, Tatum said: Tori could have survived just fine on a more modest lifestyle (which is still way more luxurious than the average Joe). I remember this was the girl (she was still working on the 90210 original series then, so she was probably like 22-23 at the time) who proudly bragged to People magazine (or something of that ilk) that she left her house/apartment and moved into a $500/night hotel- bear in mind, this was like 1994, not $500 in 2021- because the presence of a kitchen in her living space offended her. It didn't matter that she didn't have to use it, she didn't even want to see it. She just has no concept of money. I think her parents really crippled her and Candy continues to enable her. This is the first thing I thought of when she started talking about her love of cooking on Inn Love. What happened to the woman so offended by a kitchen she moved to a hotel? On 12/13/2021 at 1:05 PM, Stuckathome said: I agree.....but, again, her brother seems to be doing just fine and he had the same experience. She seemed to do okay when limited. When she met Dean she had that house in the Valley. I think it’s a compulsion, chasing a feeling not lack of understanding budgets. I say that because in her books many times she clearly realizes she’s doing something wrong but does it anyway. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7209641
GaT February 5, 2022 Share February 5, 2022 Tori Spelling Reveals Her 13-Year-Old Daughter Urged Her to Get Breasts Redone Quote "OK so I set a date yesterday. February 27th," Spelling said at the time. "They don't know what's in there until they get in there, basically. So [the surgeon] is going to take them out, clean them up and put new implants in.” Didn't we hear she did this a while ago? I could have sworn we did, why is she still waiting? And why does she refer to them as her "expired and recalled" implants & not just her "implants"? It sounds like she has multiple implants & she's only getting rid of some. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7274545
jcbrown February 5, 2022 Share February 5, 2022 26 minutes ago, GaT said: Tori Spelling Reveals Her 13-Year-Old Daughter Urged Her to Get Breasts Redone Didn't we hear she did this a while ago? I could have sworn we did, why is she still waiting? And why does she refer to them as her "expired and recalled" implants & not just her "implants"? It sounds like she has multiple implants & she's only getting rid of some. I assume she means that her implants are both expired (because FDA said they would not last more than ten years and she has had them for more than 20) and recalled (because silicone gel implants have been found to be bad news as they may leak and cause all kinds of systemic problems). She did talk about them needing replacement forever ago but Tori is a weird constellation of paranoia and denial so I assume she has been ignoring that until Stella pointed it out. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7274598
Onefineday February 21, 2022 Share February 21, 2022 What bothers me about Tori is that her mother pays all of her household bills, the food, the children's nannies and private school and the rent on her house and probably even her cars and insurance. Tori makes some money from her side gigs but how does she manage to go hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt? 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7304726
Scarlett45 March 21, 2022 Share March 21, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 9:15 AM, Onefineday said: What bothers me about Tori is that her mother pays all of her household bills, the food, the children's nannies and private school and the rent on her house and probably even her cars and insurance. Tori makes some money from her side gigs but how does she manage to go hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt? As my grandfather said "its not what you make its what you spend". Of course everyone has to spend money to live, so no one can live on 0, but if your expenses exceed your income, it doesn't matter what your income is, you'll stay in debt. Tori is an interesting case study to me, because its clear she has emotional and mental issues around compulsive spending. The "typical" person with these issues doesn't go into debt as deeply as Tori because they don't have access to the funds, and they have to spend SOME of their income on living expenses or they will be on the street- Tori knows her Mom would never let her be on the street. I think a more "typical" version of Tori is a single parent who claims raising a child is hard and money is tight, but always has disposable income to do what they want to do, because they are supported by their parents (the child's grandparents) who are paying all the REAL bills, and the parent spends their money on the child's clothes/toys and complains they don't have money to get what they want. Its a perspective thing. Tori isn't lazy, and she isn't stupid- she has had SEVERAL great ideas that could've really blown up (I loved al there stuff on the Style Network back in the day, her party planning ideas, her pet care products) but her executive functioning skills are poor. I do think Tori may be the type that was hurt by growing up with wealth rather than helped. Had she been a typical middle class girl she may have had the drive to put those ideas to good use and lived within her means, or she might just be so damaged she would still be a mess with money. But that is less destructive than drugs or alcohol or even food (compare someone 50lbs overweight to someone on My 600 LBs Life). 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7355664
Scarlett45 March 21, 2022 Share March 21, 2022 On 12/10/2021 at 10:33 AM, Tatum said: I think her parents really crippled her and Candy continues to enable her. On 12/13/2021 at 3:05 PM, Stuckathome said: I agree.....but, again, her brother seems to be doing just fine and he had the same experience. Randy had issues with substance abuse for a while- he has been clean for several years but is open about his struggles with addiction. I agree with you @Tatum- I am not blaming her parents, she is a grown ass almost menopausal woman, but I do think there were some serious missteps in her formative years, and now Candy feels guilty and puts a money bandaid on everything. I understand wanting to make sure her grandchildren are provided for, but she could've laid down the law and told Tori she was only going to pay the kids' school tuition if Tori cleaned up her debt and showed her, which would've been help not enabling. I have contended that Tori's claims that Nanny was the only reason she didnt end up in a ditch or on drugs was the truth. I think that Aaron wanted to have some children, found a pretty woman to birth them, and they left the nanny (Nanny) to raise them- neither Aaron or Candy were interested in the emotional labor it takes to raise children, and Nanny DID do a great job with them (I am sure she was well compensated and it was a good job for her- I also believe she loved them both). They knew the kids were safe, so they went on about their business. Aaron is now dead, and socially Candy gets more of the blame because she is the one with the uterus, and Aaron had the excuse that he was earning the funds to give them the luxurious lifestyle. Add in that upbringing with perhaps an addictive personality, enabling and the lack of a desire to grow and change as person- and there you go. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7355686
GaT March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 11:46 AM, Scarlett45 said: Aaron is now dead, and socially Candy gets more of the blame because she is the one with the uterus, and Aaron had the excuse that he was earning the funds to give them the luxurious lifestyle. Add in that upbringing with perhaps an addictive personality, enabling and the lack of a desire to grow and change as person- and there you go. Well, he's kind of the one who started all this. He raised his kids in extreme wealth & never gave any indication that it would be otherwise. When he died & he only left them less than a million each (I know, a ton of money to most of us) when he was worth approx $600 million, they were completely unprepared for it. If you're not going to leave your kids the money after raising them with it all their lives, & without preparing them for it, that's kind of a bitch move. 3 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7361411
LemonSoda March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 (edited) We’ve talked about it a lot on here but the most upsetting thing is Tori has skills, great business ideas but they never go anywhere because she lacks the executive functioning skills or partners with someone who lacks them. Almost every single one of her ideas over the years could’ve been successful. Everything from the fries to the party in a box which I’ve noticed another person online is having success with (themed boxes for events to renting table settings) to her party planning and craft kits. This is what kills. Tori does have talent. She also has as she mentioned in her book her Father’s skill of knowing what an audience wants to see. Even Dean for all his addictive personality mess has talent. He was never going to win Oscars but he did very well as a working actor before becoming a reality tv joke. The recipes he developed were wonderful. I still make some from their Thanksgiving special. So it’s hard when you have two skilled, talented people who can’t get out of their own way. I think Aaron knew Tori had the skills to be self sufficient. But what he didn’t know is she lacked the discipline to utilize those skills. Candy is well, Candy. But I think because she’s the living parent who happens to be a woman, society is harder on her than they need to be. She might’ve sucked as a Mom but there comes a time in life where a person has to step up and be responsible. Tori can’t spend her entire life being a mess because she had poor parenting. If I had Tori’s skills and social connections i would be very, very wealthy. Edited March 24, 2022 by LemonSoda 1 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7361697
Scarlett45 March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 3 hours ago, GaT said: Well, he's kind of the one who started all this. He raised his kids in extreme wealth & never gave any indication that it would be otherwise. When he died & he only left them less than a million each (I know, a ton of money to most of us) when he was worth approx $600 million, they were completely unprepared for it. If you're not going to leave your kids the money after raising them with it all their lives, & without preparing them for it, that's kind of a bitch move. I disagree to a point- I think no matter how much money Tori had access to her financial life would be a MESS because she’s emotionally a MESS. She would be dragging herself deeper and deeper into debt and random scams even if she had been left 100million dollars when Aaron died. She’s had opportunity after opportunity to clean up her messes-I could perhaps understand her squandering her early 90210 money- she was very young and the actors didn’t get great deals, especially considering how much of a pop culture icon the show became. But for reasonable people, I think when she was pregnant with her first child she would’ve “gotten with it” used that reality show money and learned to live within her means, which a lot of people do when they become parents. 35 minutes ago, LemonSoda said: We’ve talked about it a lot on here but the most upsetting thing is Tori has skills, great business ideas but they never go anywhere because she lacks the executive functioning skills or partners with someone who lacks them. Almost every single one of her ideas over the years could’ve been successful. Everything from the fries to the party in a box which I’ve noticed another person online is having success with (themed boxes for events to renting table settings) to her party planning and craft kits. This is what kills. Tori does have talent. She also has as she mentioned in her book her Father’s skill of knowing what an audience wants to see. Even Dean for all his addictive personality mess has talent. He was never going to win Oscars but he did very well as a working actor before becoming a reality tv joke. The recipes he developed were wonderful. I still make some from their Thanksgiving special. So it’s hard when you have two skilled, talented people who can’t get out of their own way. I think Aaron knew Tori had the skills to be self sufficient. But what he didn’t know is she lacked the discipline to utilize those skills. Candy is well, Candy. But I think because she’s the living parent who happens to be a woman, society is harder on her than they need to be. She might’ve sucked as a Mom but there comes a time in life where a person has to step up and be responsible. Tori can’t spend her entire life being a mess because she had poor parenting. If I had Tori’s skills and social connections i would be very, very wealthy. Yup. I agree so much. Tori does have skills! And if she knew she was more a “creative director” type vs a “CEO type” she did have the resources and connections to hire someone to run the business side of a party planning/pet apparel (or whatever it was) while she did the advertising and creative brainstorming. I have noticed there are a lot of people like Tori in this world, most of them aren’t as wealthy as her, but there are a lot of people who never quite “get it together” and work menial jobs, always mooching financially off family members (if they have them) even though there’s no visible reason for it (like a disability of some kind or addiction problems). If a “Tori type” has no family to help them out/enable them, they usually try to partner with someone who’s more together, OR they “piddle” along through their middle years, and they are often bitter that life is “so hard” and they are unsuccessful when they get in their own way. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7361750
Tatum March 30, 2022 Share March 30, 2022 On 3/24/2022 at 3:26 PM, GaT said: Well, he's kind of the one who started all this. He raised his kids in extreme wealth & never gave any indication that it would be otherwise. When he died & he only left them less than a million each (I know, a ton of money to most of us) when he was worth approx $600 million, they were completely unprepared for it. If you're not going to leave your kids the money after raising them with it all their lives, & without preparing them for it, that's kind of a bitch move. Should they really have expected a payout though at his death? It would have been different if Candy was their stepmother, but in cases where a spouse dies and his nuclear family is intact, isn't it kind of standard to leave everything to the living spouse? With the thought that the living spouse will leave it to the kids when he or she dies? 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7373128
LemonSoda March 31, 2022 Share March 31, 2022 On 3/24/2022 at 4:58 PM, Scarlett45 said: But for reasonable people, I think when she was pregnant with her first child she would’ve “gotten with it” used that reality show money and learned to live within her means, which a lot of people do when they become parents. This is one of many reasons it’s really a shame that the “Inn” was just for show because had it been a real opportunity that she held on to, if she had been able to keep it up now in the AirBnB world with her themes, creativity I could see Tori having a lot of success with short term rentals, event hosting, party planning. As mentioned several pages ago she was the first celebrity i saw collaborate with brands way before the social media boom. Tori can’t get out of her own way. But with all of her skills there’s no excuse other than that why she’s not very wealthy and successful on her own terms. 4 hours ago, Tatum said: Should they really have expected a payout though at his death? It would have been different if Candy was their stepmother, but in cases where a spouse dies and his nuclear family is intact, isn't it kind of standard to leave everything to the living spouse? With the thought that the living spouse will leave it to the kids when he or she dies? I’ve always been curious about this. So many have went after Candy over the years which baffles me because that kind of entitlement is dangerous. I guarantee if Tori had received $100m it would all be gone now with not much to show for it. 1 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7373815
Scarlett45 March 31, 2022 Share March 31, 2022 5 hours ago, Tatum said: Should they really have expected a payout though at his death? It would have been different if Candy was their stepmother, but in cases where a spouse dies and his nuclear family is intact, isn't it kind of standard to leave everything to the living spouse? With the thought that the living spouse will leave it to the kids when he or she dies? Aaron could’ve left all of his money to charity- or left most of it in a family trust to pay out to any grandchildren, their education or if a family member was disabled and needed the financial support. Assuming someone is an adult, has finished their education and is not disabled in such a manner that prohibits them from being self supporting, an inheritance is a GIFT. No one is entitled to anything. Aaron did set his kids up and was generous with them when he was living, they were both full on adults when he died (not 18-21 for example). I think inheritance is a wonderful thing, and a great way for the next generation to get a leg up financially, but it’s a GIFT. They ended up each with about $800k when he died, with Aaron probably assuming Candy would leave them the rest when she died. I wouldn’t do it like that but that’s not unusual, especially for a man of Aaron’s generation. Tori can’t blame her Dad for her financial problems. She was deeply in debt before he died! It’s not as if he was paying all her bills and then she got cut off and had to scramble to figure out how to keep up her lifestyle. Again, this was years ago. A 2001 Tori, at the end of 90210, realizing she squandered her salary is understandable, 20 years later, not addressing a single issue and just adding more mouths to feed is a sign of a deeper problem. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7373863
Tatum March 31, 2022 Share March 31, 2022 9 hours ago, LemonSoda said: I’ve always been curious about this. So many have went after Candy over the years which baffles me because that kind of entitlement is dangerous. I guarantee if Tori had received $100m it would all be gone now with not much to show for it. Oh most definitely. But even if Tori was financially responsible, and had a great relationship with both of her parents- in my world, the only time a parent would will things to his/her children over his/her spouse would be if the kids were from another relationship and the living spouse may or may not share the spoils. I mean, we don't have Aaron Spelling money, but when my dad dies, everything goes to my mom, not me. I do think Aaron and Candy failed Tori as far teaching her to be responsible with money, and that is something that as her parents, they should have done. But I just don't get why Tori would have expected a huge payout after her dad died. A lot of his net worth probably consisted of assets jointly owned with Candy in the first place so prior to his death it was already half hers. And Aaron may have been a shitty father in some ways, but Tori's got to be grateful that cash is still sitting with Candy and not wasted at various Four Seasons' around the world for the last 15 years. I am curious what Candy is going to do with the money upon her death though. Maybe a board of trustees? I would never give that cash to Tori. You'd be better off just donating it at that point. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7374178
Scarlett45 March 31, 2022 Share March 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Tatum said: I am curious what Candy is going to do with the money upon her death though. Maybe a board of trustees? I would never give that cash to Tori. You'd be better off just donating it at that point. Probably most of it is going to be tied up in a family trust- paying out to Tori, Randy and any future children/grandchildren they have a set amount per month to cover living expenses/education. When the trust is forced to dissolve, the rest to charity. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7374339
TeslaNewton June 20, 2022 Share June 20, 2022 This is sweet. Tori Spelling & Dean McDermott’s 15-Year-Old Liam Identifies as Trans, According to Dad 3 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7515810
GaT January 18, 2023 Share January 18, 2023 Has Tori stopped shopping there?????? America’s largest party supply store files for bankruptcy Quote Party City filed for bankruptcy protection Tuesday, weighed down by competition and years of financial losses. 1 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-7833339
TeslaNewton June 17, 2023 Share June 17, 2023 Probably not entirely unexpected. Tori Spelling’s Husband Dean McDermott Says They’ve ‘Decided to Go Our Separate Ways’ 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-8045542
Carolinagirl702 June 17, 2023 Share June 17, 2023 41 minutes ago, TeslaNewton said: Probably not entirely unexpected. Tori Spelling’s Husband Dean McDermott Says They’ve ‘Decided to Go Our Separate Ways’ Honestly took her long enough.. wonder why they decided to pull the plug now? I woulder if there was something in the prenup about how many years they are married and giving Dean alimony 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-8045570
Carolinagirl702 June 18, 2023 Share June 18, 2023 (edited) And in a post and delete apparently they're not getting divorced as the TikTok rumors say or did Dean-o jump the gun and announced it too soon.. Not getting a divorce? Edited June 18, 2023 by Carolinagirl702 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-8046142
Angeltoes June 18, 2023 Share June 18, 2023 No divorce....this week, anyway. https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/tori-spelling-and-dean-mcdermott-not-divorcing-source/ 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-8046718
TeslaNewton June 19, 2023 Share June 19, 2023 What did Tori do? This is such a toxic relationship. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-8047679
TeslaNewton June 22, 2023 Share June 22, 2023 Dean McDermott Is '100% Serious' About Divorce from Tori Spelling: 'He Can't Take It Anymore' (Source) I can see this. Living with Tori must be exhausting. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-8051688
SunnyBeBe June 23, 2023 Share June 23, 2023 https://pagesix.com/2023/06/23/tori-spelling-wears-wtf-sweater-amid-dean-mcdermott-divorce/ What is wrong with her? I will say that I used to be a big fan of Tori’s, but watching her on her own show changed that. She has a lot of issues and I’ll always wonder why you have so many kids when you’re so troubled. I wish them all the best. I would say that she needs to use some restraint for the benefit of the kids, but she’s not capable, imo. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-8052354
Carolinagirl702 June 23, 2023 Share June 23, 2023 4 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said: https://pagesix.com/2023/06/23/tori-spelling-wears-wtf-sweater-amid-dean-mcdermott-divorce/ What is wrong with her? I will say that I used to be a big fan of Tori’s, but watching her on her own show changed that. She has a lot of issues and I’ll always wonder why you have so many kids when you’re so troubled. I wish them all the best. I would say that she needs to use some restraint for the benefit of the kids, but she’s not capable, imo. The kids are who I feel sad for because it seemed like Tori and Deal and calmed down from "cheating gate" and were living from what I could tell a relatively quiet life out of the tabs and gossip sites daily for a few and now here they go again. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-8052660
SunnyBeBe June 24, 2023 Share June 24, 2023 Do you recall all the illnesses Tori had on the show? It was addressed and implied that it really was out of hand. Then, over the years she continues to appear in ERs for mystery illnesses. Then her kids starting appearing. She’s now claiming it’s mold, but what about before they moved to that house? She has some kind of propensity to get ill….requiring hospital care. I hope Dean is addressing it. It’s unfortunate. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-8052956
Carolinagirl702 June 24, 2023 Share June 24, 2023 45 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said: Do you recall all the illnesses Tori had on the show? It was addressed and implied that it really was out of hand. Then, over the years she continues to appear in ERs for mystery illnesses. Then her kids starting appearing. She’s now claiming it’s mold, but what about before they moved to that house? She has some kind of propensity to get ill….requiring hospital care. I hope Dean is addressing it. It’s unfortunate. I remember that. Not to victim blame but IMO some of that was on her especially after having those last two children back to back. It was like in her mind if she didn't give Dean sex then he was gonna get it elsewhere. Maybe because she felt guilty for cheating with Dean that ended her first marriage and his. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-8053001
SunnyBeBe June 25, 2023 Share June 25, 2023 I’m not a medical professional, but Tori demonstrated multiple incidences of getting sick when she got anxious or unhappy. It was part of the show at least once. She actually admitted it. I would imagine her family has suffered from it. I know someone like that and it’s very stressful and frustrating for family and friends. Imo, it’s not right to expose your kids to it. It seems they have it too. She had that multiple illness thing going on before they moved to the place she claims has mold. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-8053684
alexa July 21, 2023 Share July 21, 2023 I really wish she would learn something from her brother who did the right thing, left Hollywood, and became a normal person with a normal house, family, and job. Instead she stays where she can't afford to live, tries to pretend she is 16--wears clothes of a young teenager and looks ridiculous with her over-whatever face (make up? surgery? who knows). She had so much potential and it is sad how she turned out honestly. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-8081589
jcbrown July 21, 2023 Share July 21, 2023 38 minutes ago, alexa said: I really wish she would learn something from her brother who did the right thing, left Hollywood, and became a normal person with a normal house, family, and job. Instead she stays where she can't afford to live, tries to pretend she is 16--wears clothes of a young teenager and looks ridiculous with her over-whatever face (make up? surgery? who knows). She had so much potential and it is sad how she turned out honestly. Especially because she actually has some talent. She had a show in the early 2000s (So NoTorious, I think?) that demonstrated that she actually has some comedic chops. But instead she decided to lean into her anxieties and hoarding and compulsive shopping and body dysmorphia and married Dean the barnacle and popped out a million kids. (I know much of that was not a conscious choice and she is someone who needed more mental health support than she got/sought.) 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/89021-true-tori-general-discussion/page/5/#findComment-8081627
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