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I'm not sure what I think about Kim appearing on Dr Phil and now going to rehab in Malibu; I'm not sure that I care. What actually interests me and provokes concern is that her kids sound desperate for their mom to step up and get treatment, do the work this time and stop making excuses. It looks like Kim has always put drugs and alcohol ahead of everyone including her children, and I don't think now is any different. Her kids are the ones who should be in therapy and looking for ways to forge ahead with the reality that their mother will probably always be an addict and they can be sad about that but no longer get sucked into the vortex that is Kim Richards and move on with their lives and pursue their own happiness knowing their mother is a sick woman and there's nothing they can do about it.

Beautifully stated MSBLOSSOM..

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I'm not happy that she relapsed but I don't think she was ever sober to begin with. I've also never thought alcohol was her only addiction. I'm an recovering alcoholic, had my last drink on 12/29/95

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I too hope that Kingsley will end up at a Pitt Bull rescue place, but I have no idea how likely that is. But yeah, the pup had no chance with her as an owner.

Tia Maria Torres (the woman featured on Animal Planet's Pitbulls and Parolees) runs a pitbull rescue down in New Orleans. It's obvious she loves and respects the breed.

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From drphil.com

Tuesday - April 28, 2015

Real Housewife’s Exclusive: Kim Richards Tells All about Drunken Arrest

In a national television exclusive, Dr. Phil sits down with Kim Richards, one of the stars of the reality TV show Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, to discuss her ongoing battle with alcoholism and her recent arrest at the legendary Beverly Hills Hotel. Richards admits she was drinking that night -- what does she say led to her arrest? Richards is joined in the interview by her two daughters and son. How do they feel about their mother’s very public struggle with sobriety? After discussing her stormy relationship with her sister, Kyle, her Real Housewives cast members, and her storied history with addiction and specifics about possible treatment, Richards storms off. Will she return?

From dailymail.co.uk

 

EXCLUSIVE: Why Kim Richards flipped out at the Polo Lounge - confrontation with surly maître d' drove the drunk RHOBH star over the edge, leading to her arrest at the Beverly Hills Hotel

  • Kim Richards, who will tell her story to Dr. Phil tomorrow, is now in a Malibu rehab facility
  • The star was out of control when she was arrested at the Beverly Hills Hotel April 16
  • She admits to Dr Phil that she drank a big glass of vodka at her daughter Brooke's house before she got in her car to return home
  • Feeling woozy, she stopped at the hotel and went straight to the Polo Lounge
  • She claims the bar was closed and she did not drink any more
  • But when she went over to chat with a couple of strangers, the maître d' got testy
  • When he accused her of trespassing and threatened to call police, she flipped out
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In a downward-spiral, the 50-year-old recovering alcoholic admitted to Dr Phil McGraw that she was drunk on the night of her arrest. -- The night ended with police officers dragging the kicking and screaming reality star out of a bathroom cubicle when she refused to come out because she was 'angry and frightened'.

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She says she pulled in to the Beverly Hills Hotel because she felt the glass of vodka she drank at her daughter Brooke's house kick in. She knew she would be comfortable at the hotel. He ex-in laws (she was married to Gregg Davis, son of mogul Marvin Davis) owned the hotel and she's been going there since she was a little girl.

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Admitting that the night was a little foggy, Richards said she went to talk to the stranger because she thought she knew her.

She claims she did not have a drink at the hotel as the bar was shut but admitted she didn't remember much.

But when the maître d' told her if she didn't leave he was going to call the police for trespassing she got bent out of shape.

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WHY KIM WENT TO TOP HOTEL

Dr Phil: If you’re an alcoholic that has fallen off the wagon, you’re at your daughter’s house and all of a sudden you’re in there pouring a drink, and then you roll into a bar at midnight, what, you’re already drunk when you get there, why, why would you not order a drink?

Kim: Because…

Dr Phil: Why would you go to a bar if you’re not going to order a drink? Why not go to a pancake house….you could have gone to IHOP?!

Kim: Because I went there, because I was feeling the drink, and I didn’t want to drive anymore. and I pulled in so I wouldn’t be on the road. And I pulled in there because that’s a safe place for me.

Dr Phil: You went to a bar!

Kim: That’s where I usually go. And I've been going there for years.

Dr Phil: You could have got a room, you could have gone into the lobby.

Kim: I was just gonna sit down for a few minutes and just—

Dr Phil: In a bar!

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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3054635/Why-Kim-Richards-flipped-Polo-Lounge-confrontation-surly-ma-tre-d-drove-drunk-RHOBH-star-edge-leading-arrest-Beverly-Hills-Hotel.html#ixzz3YWzOFfro

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motorcitymom65

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Holy shit! It this quote from Chad part of the Dr. Phil interview? If there is any chance that we might get to see one of Kim's children say that Brandi is "toxic" on camera, I am going to need to celebrate in a very big way. 

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Tia Maria Torres (the woman featured on Animal Planet's Pitbulls and Parolees) runs a pitbull rescue down in New Orleans. It's obvious she loves and respects the breed.

I sent a message to Kyle Schwab, the trainer that said Kingsley was the most dangerous, aggressive dog he had ever worked with, a message via FB because he also said that he felt there was still a chance to help the dog, that Kingsley was removed form Kim's house. I don't expect to get a reply but I hope he or 1 of his trainer friends intervene for/with Kingsley. 

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Avaleigh

Avaleigh

There's so much I want to comment on!

 

Chad saying that Brandi is toxic--thank you, Chad! I hope the other kids chime in. We know at least two of the daughters didn't like Brandi from day one so I doubt that they're all that fond of her. It'll be interesting to see if Brandi goes after any of Kim's kids on Twitter. 

Way to throw your daughter Brooke under the bus Kim! She claims she drank vodka at her daughters home and then drove!

I might very well be wrong but I'm going to give Brooke the benefit of the doubt and say that she didn't know that her mom was drinking vodka before she left her house. 

 

To me it is also plausible that it could've been a trainer or rescue group picking up the dog.

I wonder if other trainers are hesitant to take up the challenge given what some trainers have had to say about Kingsley.

 

Kim: I started to drive home, and it was about when I hit the hotel, that I started to feel it. So I pulled in because I'm comfortable there, I've been going there since I'm a little girl….

This is a small thing but it's something that I've noticed that both Kim and Kyle do. (I'm not sure about Kathy.) Kim doesn't say "since I was a little girl..." It's similar to when Kyle said "I'm born and raised in Beverly Hills..." instead of saying "I was born and raised in Beverly Hills..."

 

As far as the comment that Kim feels "safe" there--are we to take it that she's probably acted like an ass/been super wasted there before but this time maybe took it to another level? 

As for Kim, now she's deflecting onto the fans?  Seriously? She is pathetic.  Up until this season, I think viewers have been somewhat sympathetic to her, but she cashed that in this season.   It was HER behavior that caused fans to turn on her.

 

Was Kim not "hard" on Lisa Rinna? Was Kim not "hard" on her sister?  You reap what you sow.

 

But now she's suddenly made of spun sugar.  The fans are "hard on her"? Cry me a vodka river.  Look up Teresa Guidice, Melissa Gorga, Jacqueline Laurita, Jill Zarin, Brandi Glanville (I could go on)  if she wants to see mean tweets. 

 

Time to look all over twitter for mean tweets, but no time to write a blog? 

It was only a matter of time before Kim started blaming the viewers. (The very viewers that help make it possible for her to pay for her drugs and alcohol while she drives around under the influence in her Bentley, I might add.) Kim can talk to her friend Taylor all day long about mean tweets and comments on social media. And then Taylor can remind Kim about things like the on camera intervention that Kim tried to pull on Taylor, when she talked about Taylor's drinking behind her back, or when she made implications about Taylor as a mother that helped result in some nasty tweets and other comments on social media.

 

At least Phil doesn't seem like he's going to let her off the hook. 

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Avaleigh

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So Kim is just going to sit there and lie, lie, lie to Phil.  I'm glad he didn't for a second buy that she hadn't ordered any drinks in the bar.  At best, I'll give her that she doesn't remember a goddamned thing after her paint bucket vodka.

I can definitely see Kim being somebody who doesn't remember how many pills she's taken or how many drinks she's had. That shit can get very dangerous. Makes me think of Judy Garland.

 

And that reminds me--when I upvoted the post about Elizabeth Taylor having an assistant do stuff for her in rehab, I'm now realizing that I was thinking of Liza won't-even-light-her-own-cigarettes-unless-she's-forced-to Minelli. Not during her most recent trip but possibly during or just before the David Gest period IIRC. I don't remember the details I just remember thinking that she's a piece of work herself.

 

Elizabeth Taylor didn't come across as a sour person in general the way that Kim does, not even during the rocky booze and drug filled Burton years. Even during the tough periods she was still a person who was not only kind but managed to care deeply about other people and this included people other than children/relatives. This isn't a quality that I see in Kim at all.  

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Dr. Phil Reveals Secrets from Kim Richards’ Explosive Sit-Down

 

 

Dr. Phil host joined “Extra’s” Charissa Thompson to shed light on his interview with the reality star, and explained he doesn’t think that Richards remembered what happened to cause her arrest. “I think she doesn’t remember a lot of it, frankly, which is a matter of concern.” The talk show host continued, “I think she is fuzzy on a lot of it, which is, as I say, cause for concern.

 

”McGraw admitted the “Real Housewife” got frustrated with him during their interview. “Addicts and alcoholics are great at deflecting, and I think she’s shown a lot of that behavior. I’m not real good at letting people do that; as a result I think that can be very frustrating when you don’t let people wiggle, and I don’t let people wiggle. I didn’t let her wiggle, and think it was very frustrating for her.”

 

In a promo for the interview, we see the reality star storm out of the room after Dr. Phil criticized her bad behavior and questioned her sobriety, with Richards asking, “Is this an intervention?”

Dr. Phil commented about the scene, “Well, I’ll let people decide whether this was a storm-out or an anxiety storm, but again, when that’s their stock and trade of deflect, change the subject, control, manipulate, and you take those things away from them, they kind of run out of coping energy, and I think when it happens, you’ve gotta have a big anxiety rush — and I think that’s a lot of what’s going on.”

 

Another point of contention in Richards’ life is her rocky relationship with her sister, fellow “Housewives” co-star Kyle. Major issues erupted between the sisters on the show after Kim’s dog bit Kyle’s daughter. Dr. Phil revealed that Kim and Kyle have been in contact since her arrest. “Well, we talk about that on the show, talk about her relationship with Kyle, you’ll hear her speak about that. They’ve not been in a lot of contact, but they did have some contact with regard to this event, so that comes out.”

 

While their interview was clearly heated, Dr. Phil did come away with a positive view of Richards. “I like Kim, think she seems like a nice woman. I met her children during the interview as well, they seem like really good kids. Somebody’s done something right along the way to have kids that turned out that well, so overall I came away with a positive impression of her, but think that obviously she has some things she needs to deal with.”

 

http://extratv.com/videos/0_4czs5r9c

 

 

 

Not Alone! Troubled Kim Richards ‘Coached’ By Big Sister Kathy During Explosive Dr. Phil Interview

 

 

Kim Richards wasn’t alone for her emotional interview with Dr. Phil McGraw, RadarOnline.com can exclusively reveal.

The troubled Real Housewives of Beverly Hills star, 50, was joined by older sister Kathy Richards for some family support— and media training!

 

“During the breaks, she would go directly to Kim’s side and coach her on how to better answer Dr. Phil’s questions,” the insider explains of Paris and Nicky Hilton‘s poised mother, 56.

 

During the tense taping, Kim finally admitted to falling off the wagon before her shocking drunken arrest, though she copped to stumbling only very recently.

And when Kim stormed off the set during the TV doc’s no-holds-barred questioning, it was Kathy who brought her back, the source reveals.

 

“Kathy talked Kim down, and got her to return and finish,” the insider says. “She was definitely acting as Kim’s protector. She wanted to make sure she was being looked after.”
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I am looking forward to her Dr Phil interview.  He is on my DVR and I probably watch about 15% of his shows.  I don't find a lot of the subjects interesting.  Addiction and abuse are two topics I skip.  Boring, to me.   

 

He is smart and skilled.  Sure he hawks his books and Dr on Demand so what, I use my FF for those times and Robin (oh gawd yes).   I think he helps many people.  He is not a quack, he knows his stuff.   

 

He is a great guest on talk shows; he is VERY witty.  He has a great rapport with Kimmel, Fallon and Letterman to name only 3.  He is not a bad guy.  

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chlban

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It is speculation that it was Animal Control that led the dog / Kingsley out of Kim's home because the dog was being led out on a stick and not a leash. It could've been Animal Control, although in my neck of the woods their vehicles are marked and noticeable. To me it is also plausible that it could've been a trainer or rescue group picking up the dog. Kingsley is a celebrity in his own right and I would not be surprised if a media-friendly trainer / rescue group is willing to take him.

But that would require Kim's permission as owner of the dog and she is too selfish and stupid to something that would  benefit the dog.

I am also afraid that a rescue would be too wary too deal with Kim. She's mean, stupid and an addict. She'll be crying about some rescue group stealing her dog just like she keeps doing about Kyle stealing her damn house.

 

The woman is a selfish idiot.  As is often the case with these types of people, their pets pay the price for it.  

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So Chad is blaming Brandi, eh?  And who was it before they met?

 

I have been skimming this thread to keep up to date.  So did the court give her the choice of rehab or jail time?  Is that why she is going?  

I don't know if he blames Brandi for what happened while filming or the PL incident, we have yet to see/hear what exactly he says. I suspect that it may be that he feels she is not the best person for his mom to hang out with because of her, Brandi's, own drinking/Xanax/Lexapro popping issues.

 

Dr. Phil Reveals Secrets from Kim Richards’ Explosive Sit-Down

 

 

 

 

Not Alone! Troubled Kim Richards ‘Coached’ By Big Sister Kathy During Explosive Dr. Phil Interview

I think Dr Phil needs to remember that Kim children had/have fathers in their lives and she was not the sole parent for any of them. From all accounts, she was drunk/high most of their childhoods.

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Dr. Phil Reveals Secrets from Kim Richards’ Explosive Sit-Down

 

 

 

 

Not Alone! Troubled Kim Richards ‘Coached’ By Big Sister Kathy During Explosive Dr. Phil Interview

So essentially  we will be watching how Kathy Hilton wants the world to see Kim.  From some of Kathy and her children's public behavior this might not be the best thing.

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But that would require Kim's permission as owner of the dog and she is too selfish and stupid to something that would  benefit the dog.

I am also afraid that a rescue would be too wary too deal with Kim. She's mean, stupid and an addict. She'll be crying about some rescue group stealing her dog just like she keeps doing about Kyle stealing her damn house.

 

The woman is a selfish idiot.  As is often the case with these types of people, their pets pay the price for it.  

I suppose it is possible that Kim made arrangements for Kingsley to go back to wherever she had him stashed the last time or, most likely it was Kathy and Kim's kids that called that trainer as soon as Kim was out of the house, if it was not animal control.

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BlackMamba

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We shouldn't be one bit surprised Kathy has came to the aid of Kim.  She probably so purchased Kim's lawyers for the dog biting and now the public intoxication.  This is all one more thing for Kim to throw in Kyle's grill later down the road and say Kathy is the better sister and Kyle has never been there for her.

 

All I keep thinking while Kathy was coaching up Kim to give damage control answers "You do coaching now!"

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zoeysmom

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I don't know if he blames Brandi for what happened while filming or the PL incident, we have yet to see/hear what exactly he says. I suspect that it may be that he feels she is not the best person for his mom to hang out with because of her, Brandi's, own drinking/Xanax/Lexapro popping issues.

 

I think Dr Phil needs to remember that Kim children had/have fathers in their lives and she was not the sole parent for any of them. From all accounts, she was drunk/high most of their childhoods.

I will go one step further with Chad- my other hunch is he and maybe a couple of his sibs thought it was wrong for Brandi to come in between family members and use the discord she created and/or contributed to for hers storyline.  Maybe just maybe, it was unacceptable to the Brinson, Davis, Jackson clan for somebody of Brandi's ilk to publicly and repeatedly call their aunt a c%nt, horrible person, liar and phony and threaten to beat her up.   Maybe someday with a little clarity Kim will see hoe foolish she was to continue to back Brandi' play.

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chlban

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I suppose it is possible that Kim made arrangements for Kingsley to go back to wherever she had him stashed the last time or, most likely it was Kathy and Kim's kids that called that trainer as soon as Kim was out of the house, if it was not animal control.

Except again, this is Kim's dog. So unless Kim gives permission for Kathy or the kids to call, I think that would be a risk that no rescue or private trainer would take. She could accuse them of stealing her dog. That  might sound nuts except, oh yeah, we are talking about a nut. A drunken, stoned most of the time, nut. 

 

Sadly, I fear that animal control is the only likely entity that would take Kingsley. On the plus side, I don't think even they can just destroy him without a hearing, but his chances don't look good if it is, in fact, animal control. 

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LizDC

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We shouldn't be one bit surprised Kathy has came to the aid of Kim. She probably so purchased Kim's lawyers for the dog biting andnow the public intoxication.

I doubt Kim has lawyers for the dog bite suit. The plaintiff filed for a default judgment recently which would indicate that Kim probably did not file any response to the complaint.

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chlban

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I will go one step further with Chad- my other hunch is he and maybe a couple of his sibs thought it was wrong for Brandi to come in between family members and use the discord she created and/or contributed to for hers storyline.  Maybe just maybe, it was unacceptable to the Brinson, Davis, Jackson clan for somebody of Brandi's ilk to publicly and repeatedly call their aunt a c%nt, horrible person, liar and phony and threaten to beat her up.   Maybe someday with a little clarity Kim will see hoe foolish she was to continue to back Brandi' play.

Amen and I think you are right. Kyle is their aunt and by all reports has been a loving one. Besides, there is that old "family" thing. I have had differences with family members over the years. I might get pretty mad and I might bitch within the family about them. But someone outside the family wants to trash my family member?  Oh, Hell No.

 

I think anyone that is not drunk or stoned, can pretty much see that a person like Brandi (and calling her a person indicates I'm feeling charitable today) is not a good influence on the train wreck that is Kim Richards.

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parisprincess

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I might very well be wrong but I'm going to give Brooke the benefit of the doubt and say that she didn't know that her mom was drinking vodka before she left her house.

 

I can't help but be skeptical that Brooke wouldn't be aware of Kim drinking while watching the reunion at her home, unless Kim arrived with a Starbucks cup filled with vodka.  If she did, then she can't say that what she watched made her take that drink; she was getting her drink on BEFORE watching the show.  The part that makes me want to kick Kim's ass is the fact that she then got behind the wheel of her car! 

 

Also, I don't believe a word she says about stopping at the Beverly Hills Hotel because she felt woozy, nor her version of the events following.  She was stupid to think that she could pull the wool over Dr. Phil's eyes, but then she's been fooling people for years, so she's pretty confident that she can convince others that she doesn't have a problem.  As I said earlier, Kim is only going to rehab to get people off her back, and she will get absolutely nothing out of it because she has no interest in getting well.  

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mwell345

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So are we (and Dr. Phil ) supposed to believe that she had one drink of vodka (and I guess this is another "relapse" or "not a relapse, just a drink, or a pill, or whatever", and she went to a bar because she didn't want to be on the road?

 

And now, it still would have been fine, I guess, if the maitre'de hadn't gotten testy with her.   Did no one tell him you have to watch what you say to fragile Kim Richards?

 

Did she think Dr. Phil was going to buy all this?

 

She would have been better off sitting down with Andy Cohen. After all, he knows what he can and can't ask her. 

 

Having said that, now it occurs to me:  Any time a HW has something important to say, they do usually sit with Andy, like Teresa did after her sentencing.  I wonder if Kim bypassed Andy in favor of Dr. Phil, or Andy/Bravo have already washed their hands of Kim and have no interest in interviewing her.

 

Please let it be the latter!  Please.

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Avaleigh

Avaleigh

I feel bad that I'm amused about certain things about this situation because obviously this is a serious set of circumstances but there are so many things that are making me LOL.  Like when Dr. Phil made the comment where he asked her if it was a five gallon paint can--my mind immediately flashed to Kim at the wine tasting jokingly saying 'this is gonna be my glass' as she grabs a wine glass that is about the size of her head.

From the reunion part 3 episode thread:

I question whether Kim sees her alcohol and drug abuse as destructive, except that her kids think so.  Face it - Kim likes drinking and likes drugs and likes being drunk and high.  I think the only problem she sees with that is everyone else wants her to be clean and sober but she doesn't.

The main reason I disagree with this is because Kim's behavior clearly embarrasses her. I know that the lucid, non addled part of her knows that her behavior is frequently inappropriate and has been for years now. She's too selfish and self absorbed to get the full extent of it but she's definitely aware of it on some level. Consider the way she acted when Andy showed her footage of the night at SUR. She was able to last for about twenty seconds or so before asking him to stop showing it to her. He was either showing her in the limo with Ken or on the floor of the bathroom in the hotel room but either way it was one of those scenes and Kim immediately couldn't handle seeing it.

 

Kim has blamed her addiction for putting her relationship with her children in jeopardy. It's put her job at risk--she has to know that this is destructive to her livelihood. It puts her health at risk and she's acknowledged that in the past as well.

 

She's blamed pills and drinking for all kinds of incidents. She took a "pain pill" and was forced to acknowledge that her behavior "looked bad" in her blog. She even said in her blog that Kyle *should* be "worried" (as opposed to being "embarrassed") so I feel like some part of her knows that she isn't fine when she takes drugs and drinks. Some people aren't obnoxious assholes when they drink or take drugs but Kim most certainly does not fall into that category. 

All I keep thinking while Kim was coaching up Kim to give damage control answers "You do coaching now!"

See, this is what I mean. How can I not laugh over shit like this? It's too funny. 

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WireWrap

WireWrap

Except again, this is Kim's dog. So unless Kim gives permission for Kathy or the kids to call, I think that would be a risk that no rescue or private trainer would take. She could accuse them of stealing her dog. That  might sound nuts except, oh yeah, we are talking about a nut. A drunken, stoned most of the time, nut. 

 

Sadly, I fear that animal control is the only likely entity that would take Kingsley. On the plus side, I don't think even they can just destroy him without a hearing, but his chances don't look good if it is, in fact, animal control. 

Kim had to have put someone in charge of her house and Kingsley before she went to rehab and they may have made the decision or more likely, if it was not AC, she arranged for the dog to go to the trainer but left for rehab first so she did not have to see him led away. I really doubt that any of her kids were willing to care for the dog given his history and I am sure they made that loud and clear to Kim up front and arrangements were made before she left.

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Avaleigh

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I will go one step further with Chad- my other hunch is he and maybe a couple of his sibs thought it was wrong for Brandi to come in between family members and use the discord she created and/or contributed to for hers storyline.  Maybe just maybe, it was unacceptable to the Brinson, Davis, Jackson clan for somebody of Brandi's ilk to publicly and repeatedly call their aunt a c%nt, horrible person, liar and phony and threaten to beat her up.   Maybe someday with a little clarity Kim will see hoe foolish she was to continue to back Brandi' play.

I'll admit to being curious as to how the battle lines are forming as far as the cousins. With Kathy being friendly-ish with Brandi I wonder what Paris and Nicki think of Brandi? Are Kyle's kids mostly upset with Kim over Kingsley biting Alexia or do they mostly feel sorry for their aunt and cousins? I wonder how the feud between the sisters impacts the dynamic between the cousins overall? Do we think Kim's kids are all fine with Kyle or do any of them feel that Kyle has somehow treated their mother unfairly? I felt like Kim was probably trying to make a bigger deal out of Whitney asking Kyle to take down the hospital pics on IG than it really was to Whitney. 

 

I wonder if to Kim, the Polo Lounge is a safe place because they've covered for her drunken ass before. Maybe before they always called her a cab when she was drunk and never ratted her out.

I wonder if that's why she felt safe there.

I commented on this further upthread. My guess is that they absolutely have. I swear too that I read a quote recently where Kim or maybe somebody else said that she didn't know the maitre'd that night. Anybody else recall reading that? 

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I feel bad that I'm amused about certain things about this situation because obviously this is a serious set of circumstances but there are so many things that are making me LOL.  Like when Dr. Phil made the comment where he asked her if it was a five gallon paint can--my mind immediately flashed to Kim at the wine tasting jokingly saying 'this is gonna be my glass' as she grabs a wine glass that is about the size of her head.

From the reunion part 3 episode thread:

The main reason I disagree with this is because Kim's behavior clearly embarrasses her. I know that the lucid, non addled part of her knows that her behavior is frequently inappropriate and has been for years now. She's too selfish and self absorbed to get the full extent of it but she's definitely aware of it on some level. Consider the way she acted when Andy showed her footage of the night at SUR. She was able to last for about twenty seconds or so before asking him to stop showing it to her. He was either showing her in the limo with Ken or on the floor of the bathroom in the hotel room but either way it was one of those scenes and Kim immediately couldn't handle seeing it.

 

Kim has blamed her addiction for putting her relationship with her children in jeopardy. It's put her job at risk--she has to know that this is destructive to her livelihood. It puts her health at risk and she's acknowledged that in the past as well.

 

She's blamed pills and drinking for all kinds of incidents. She took a "pain pill" and was forced to acknowledge that her behavior "looked bad" in her blog. She even said in her blog that Kyle *should* be "worried" (as opposed to being "embarrassed") so I feel like some part of her knows that she isn't fine when she takes drugs and drinks. Some people aren't obnoxious assholes when they drink or take drugs but Kim most certainly does not fall into that category. 

See, this is what I mean. How can I not laugh over shit like this? It's too funny. 

IMO, just mine, Kim refuses to watch her addict behavior on film because hearing about it seeing it are 2 very different things. Hearing about it, she can argue with whomever that they are wrong, that their perceptions are off but actually seeing her behavior on film takes away any chance of deflecting or spinning it off as something else.

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parisprincess

parisprincess

IMO, just mine, Kim refuses to watch her addict behavior on film because hearing about it seeing it are 2 very different things. Hearing about it, she can argue with whomever that they are wrong, that their perceptions are off but actually seeing her behavior on film takes away any chance of deflecting or spinning it off as something else.

 

The problem with this is that, even if SHE hasn't seen her behavior on film, WE have, so trying to spin it off as something else just makes her look like an idiot.

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izabella

izabella

IMO, just mine, Kim refuses to watch her addict behavior on film because hearing about it seeing it are 2 very different things. Hearing about it, she can argue with whomever that they are wrong, that their perceptions are off but actually seeing her behavior on film takes away any chance of deflecting or spinning it off as something else.

 

Completely agree.  She was trying to do that with Phil when she said she didn't order any drinks at the Polo Lounge, and only went to talk to the people at the other table because she thought she knew them.  No, they don't try to kick you out or call police unless you are a big ole mess.

 

She has no idea how messed up she gets when she's messed up, and doesn't realize everyone else sees it plain as day.  She didn't realize how she came across during Poker Night until Brandi told her in the car afterward that she was loony-tunes, and Kim was all, "really?"  Thus, she blames other people for "outing" her when it's her own behavior that outs her. 

 

But she also doesn't want to see herself that way, because it will burst her bubble that she's alright and it's everyone else that is wrong.

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walnutqueen

walnutqueen

Except again, this is Kim's dog. So unless Kim gives permission for Kathy or the kids to call, I think that would be a risk that no rescue or private trainer would take. She could accuse them of stealing her dog. That  might sound nuts except, oh yeah, we are talking about a nut. A drunken, stoned most of the time, nut. 

 

Sadly, I fear that animal control is the only likely entity that would take Kingsley. On the plus side, I don't think even they can just destroy him without a hearing, but his chances don't look good if it is, in fact, animal control. 

 

IF ONLY animal control and like entities couldn't "destroy" an animal without a hearing - what a wonderful, wonderful world.

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chlban

chlban

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IF ONLY animal control and like entities couldn't "destroy" an animal without a hearing - what a wonderful, wonderful world.

Here in CA. they can, and sadly do, destroy strays regularly. They can also destroy an animal that has been picked up even if the owner is known (through licensing, tag, microchip) but only after waiting four days (the Hayden Law). However, I was referring to a dog being seized by animal control from someone's home. I don't believe that animal can be destroyed without a hearing.

 

In my condo shortly after moving in I was warned about a vicious dog, yes it was a Pit, in the complex. He had killed my new next door neighbors cocker spaniel. He was seized and there was a hearing. At the hearing it came out that the killer dog had actually grabbed the cocker spaniel that was unleashed through the bars of a wrought iron fence. Since the Pit was behind the fence, and the cocker was  unleashed the Pit was returned. to the owner. About a year later the dog, while on a leash but under the "control" of a young girl, grabbed and killed a cat. He was not seized that time, but there was a hearing.  The hearing resulted in numerous restrictions, i.e. he had to be muzzled any time he was outside of his yard, leashed or not, he could only be walked by a person over 21,etc.

 

Shortly after they moved away so I don't know how it ended up and, granted, he had not bit a human, so it may be quite different. However, I have a hunch that since Kingsley hasn't killed anyone, it is unlikely he would be destroyed without at least a hearing.  

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zulualpha

zulualpha

I wonder if Phil is going to address her perscription pill intake.  That to me is a big part of the problem.  Kim can stay off booze for a while but I don't think she's ever off perscription medication, she certainly has never claimed to be.  On the plane in her confrontation with Lisa R she took care to say she wasn't abusing perscription drugs not that she wasn't taking them.  I really think a person with addiction problems as severe as Kim has should not be taking any kind of drug or alcohol because she'll never really get completely well.  On Dr. Drew's addiction reality show an actor named Jeff Conaway checked in and he claimed that he was in pain all the time and so was given pain meds.  As a result he never kicked his addiction and subsequently died.  I'm afraid that's what's going to happen to Kim.  It certainly appears that if you live in Hollywood you can get whatever you want perscribed to you by a physician, anti anxiety meds, pain pills anything even if you're a known addict.

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chlban

chlban

Completely agree.  She was trying to do that with Phil when she said she didn't order any drinks at the Polo Lounge, and only went to talk to the people at the other table because she thought she knew them.  No, they don't try to kick you out or call police unless you are a big ole mess.

 

She has no idea how messed up she gets when she's messed up, and doesn't realize everyone else sees it plain as day.  She didn't realize how she came across during Poker Night until Brandi told her in the car afterward that she was loony-tunes, and Kim was all, "really?"  Thus, she blames other people for "outing" her when it's her own behavior that outs her. 

 

But she also doesn't want to see herself that way, because it will burst her bubble that she's alright and it's everyone else that is wrong.

Her whole story, as usual, is so blatantly BS. So you go into a dark bar or restaurant and think you recognize someone at a table. Drunk or sober, totally believable. So, you walk over and then realize you are mistaken. You simply briefly explain, "so sorry, I thought you were someone else". Slightly uncomfortable perhaps, but certainly no big deal. There is no way anyone in the restaurant would be disturbed by such a thing.

 

Kim thinks we are all as stupid as Brandi.   

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walnutqueen

walnutqueen

Have you ever seen one of those "hearings"?  Because you may as well plead your case to Judge Roy Bean.  Kingsley has documented bites.  I don't hold much hope for him if he is in the hands of the authorities.

 

Oh, and taking an addict/alcoholic off everything suddenly can and sometimes will bring on sudden death - it is a delicate medical process when someone is as far gone as Kim seems to be, and as Jeff Conaway certainly was.  Pain management is problematic enough without factoring in addiction - in Jeff's case.  But Kim's 100% pain is only in her lame excuses.

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msblossom

msblossom

I tuned into the last few minutes of Dr Phil this afternoon to see if they would be showing any new footage in a preview for tomorrow's show with Kim (they didn't) and the forensics psychological "expert" they had on today with Phil looked so familiar but I couldn't place him. Then Dr Phil thanked Dr Sophy for participating in today's show and I was like WTH? I thought Dr Sophy was a faux psychotherapist or maybe a marriage counselor at best. Strange. Anyway, I then wondered if a family member contacted Dr Sophy on behalf of Kim, who then got in touch with Phil. I thought Sophy was a quack, not a 'real' doctor.

I don't know if anyone knows the answer, but if it was animal control that left with Kingsley from Kim's house, how long will animal control keep him in their custody before putting him down?

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Persnickety1

Persnickety1

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Dr Phil gonna have me break a rib about the 5 gallon paint can!

 

And as many of us suspected, that bitch WAS drinking and driving, and apparently drunk off of her ass in the process since she's stating the bar at the Polo Lounge was closed and she couldn't get a drink....which means the condition in which she was arrested was the condition in which she arrived.

 

Holy fucking christ...Bravo, get this selfish, dangerous bitch off of my TV.

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