Bethenny & Jason: The Divorce Showdown

[Giselle]

14 minutes ago, BBHN said:

In that case, he shouldn't need Bethenny to pay for $2K in laundry fees, if he is such a baller.

Maybe he changes his shorts 3 times on a weekday and 4 times a day on weekends to generate all that laundry.  

He wants his skid-marked drawers hand washed by virgins using lavender scented Evian water and using fine milled soap, then have them pressed, no starch please.

[Lemons]

25 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

I wouldn't want to see my own father walking around in his boxers.  WTF were Jason and his father thinking???????????????

Growing up, my father did not leave his bedroom until fully dressed. That said, I saw him in his underwear and shirt one night and I thought it was gross. That's being a kid for you. 

[breezy424]

Well, to be fair Beth has peed three times on national TV.  First on the stick.  Then in the bucket.  And then on the side of road just about a mile from Smithville, NJ.  And just a couple of weeks ago she was walking around with her bra on.  And in a few weeks we get to watch her running naked into a pool.   Just sayin.

[smores]

I can say that my father never walked around in boxers and a t shirt, even if it was just "us family" at home.  He damn sure wouldn't do it with strangers (film crew, my coworkers) around.  I would be mortified if my husband did it, just like I wouldn't wear my nightgown around his coworkers.  Hell, his parents were visiting recently and if I went out of our room in the am before officially dressed for the day, I changed into leggings, a t shirt that covered my ass and a bra.  

[Lemons]

2 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Well, to be fair Beth has peed three times on national TV.  First on the stick.  Then in the bucket.  And then on the side of road just about a mile from Smithville, NJ.  And just a couple of weeks ago she was walking around with her bra on.  And in a few weeks we get to watch her running naked into a pool.   Just sayin.

No one will ever accuse Bethany of being a refined woman.  I know

 it's not fair but men doing stuff like that is grosser. 

Edited June 28, 2017 by Lemons

[Martinigirl]

I would never, ever, in a million years want to see my FIL in his boxers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BBHN]

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Maybe he changes his shorts 3 times on a weekday and 4 times a day on weekends to generate all that laundry.  

He wants his skid-marked drawers hand washed by virgins using lavender scented Evian water and using fine milled soap, then have them pressed, no starch please.

In that case, maybe he should set up a GoFundMe account...Jason's Laundry!

[breezy424]

4 minutes ago, Lemons said:

No one will ever accuse Bethany of being a refined woman. 

That's why I find it amusing when she was pearl clutching over her FIL and Jason being in their underwear. 

[motorcitymom65]

6 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

That's why I find it amusing when she was pearl clutching over her FIL and Jason being in their underwear. 

I think the point about it is that Beth didn't want these people there in the first place. This was a hostile environment. She had work colleagues there and a film crew. They were walking around in their boxers, which wasn't usual for them, and it appeared they were doing it to make her and the work crew uncomfortable. This is why I think Momma and Poppa Hoppy are as creepy and deranged as Jason. Most folks in that situation would say "son, why don't we all just stay at a hotel while we are in town due to the circumstances". It could not have been a comfortable situation for any of them, and why they would want to particulate in, let alone exacerbate the situation, says a lot about them IMO. 

[breezy424]

1 minute ago, motorcitymom65 said:

I think the point about it is that Beth didn't want these people there in the first place. This was a hostile environment. She had work colleagues there and a film crew. They were walking around in their boxers, which wasn't usual for them, and it appeared they were doing it to make her and the work crew uncomfortable. This is why I think Momma and Poppa Hoppy are as creepy and deranged as Jason. Most folks in that situation would say "son, why don't we all just stay at a hotel while we are in town due to the circumstances". It could not have been a comfortable situation for any of them, and why they would want to particulate in, let alone exacerbate the situation, says a lot about them IMO. 

I take it all with a grain of salt.  This is Beth talking.  And here's the thing.  Did Jason and his parents even know that there something planned.  What time did these people get there?  Did they do it because of that?  Did they really do it all?  You never know when Beth tells a story. She exaggerates constantly.

[QuinnM]

9 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

I think the point about it is that Beth didn't want these people there in the first place. This was a hostile environment. She had work colleagues there and a film crew. They were walking around in their boxers, which wasn't usual for them, and it appeared they were doing it to make her and the work crew uncomfortable. This is why I think Momma and Poppa Hoppy are as creepy and deranged as Jason

The testimony was that there was a magazine shoot at the apartment using the SG bar with the 6 ft SG logo.  She was under oath not just flapping her gums to Perez Hilton.  The crew that was there were provided with a craft services table (food).  And in the middle of Bethenny doing her business, you know the business that paid for the apartment and douchebag's $2K dry cleaning bill, Hoppy and his dad wandered out in their under ware and were grazing on the crew's craft services food.  That's one of the reasons I think his parents are creepy.  Who does that?

1 hour ago, Ellee said:

1.  The girl here wants to see Julie Plach (sp? and don't know her married name.)  Yeah, I know.  She has nothing to do with this AT ALL but I imagine she has a ton of details to spill.  Some good, some bad but definitely interesting.   hmmm... I think I could probably pick out a handful of posters here ( :D :D :D ) that would be perfect to grill her.

That's still doable.  As of her visit last year, she's still married, kids, Pittsburgh?, and a friend of Bethenny's.  There wasn't a lot on Snap but enough to see that she was staying at B's.

Edited June 28, 2017 by QuinnM

[smores]

Yeah, that's the other thing.  I'm well into my 30s and clearly my parents don't "get" to tell me what to do.  But, I can promise that if I was acting like Jason (let's say I was running around in my underwear in front of other people), my parents would have some words with me about it.  There is no way in hell my mother would join me in the behavior.  I'm trying to think what her response would be if I suggested it, and I'm just at a loss, because there's just no way in hell she would do it.  

But, ok, for the sake of argument, let's say that Jason and his father didn't know the photo shoot was scheduled for that day.  IF that's the case, once you opened the bedroom door and realized the place was full of people, wouldn't you turn around and put some clothes on? I'm not going to lie, when it's just my husband and I here (which it normally is), I frequently walk around in just pajamas, which for me would be a longer shirt and some underwear.  But, if someone is here, I put clothes on.  Like I said, my inlaws were here recently, the one day they went out to see some stuff and I didn't go along because I had other stuff to do, if I had headed out of my room thinking they left, in my pajamas, and discovered them still here? I'd have turned right around and thrown on some clothing.  To STAY in the underwear is just weird.

[zoeysmom]

4 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

I think the point about it is that Beth didn't want these people there in the first place. This was a hostile environment. She had work colleagues there and a film crew. They were walking around in their boxers, which wasn't usual for them, and it appeared they were doing it to make her and the work crew uncomfortable. This is why I think Momma and Poppa Hoppy are as creepy and deranged as Jason. Most folks in that situation would say "son, why don't we all just stay at a hotel while we are in town due to the circumstances". It could not have been a comfortable situation for any of them, and why they would want to particulate in, let alone exacerbate the situation, says a lot about them IMO. 

I have to question why Bethenny would schedule a photo shoot with a craft table no less.  How long could the crew have possibly been there?  

Why should the Hoppys, who are there to see the granddaughter and son be relegated to a hotel?  Bethenny didn't move her employees out of the apartment once things went south.  Family before employees.  Both sets of chuckleheads were so busy to trying to score in the game neither considered the feelings of the other. 

I would have loved to have heard the testimony of the crew people who were there and if there was any food left for them.

[breezy424]

1 minute ago, QuinnM said:

The testimony was that there was a magazine shoot at the apartment using the SG bar with the 6 ft SG logo.  The crew that was there were provided with a craft services table (food).  And in the middle of Bethenny doing her business, you know the business that paid for the apartment and douchebag's $2K dry cleaning bill, Hoppy and his dad wandered out in their under ware and were grazing on the crew's craft services food.  That's one of the reasons I think his parents are creepy.  Who does that?

And that testimony came from Beth and I take it with a grain of salt.  As I stated earlier, Beth has no problem being inappropriate for and on camera.  And now she's pearl clutching?  I find it all rather amusing.

[Ellee]

QuinnM, I have zero facts on this but I've always given Julie a lot of credit for B's stairway to success. 

[QuinnM]

Just now, Ellee said:

QuinnM, I have zero facts on this but I've always given Julie a lot of credit for B's stairway to success. 

I do as well.  And she was all excited about Julie being there.  I remember when Julie left to get married and have a nice quiet life.  There were tears.  I know that she notes that the job of assistants is crazy.  Hours are crazy etc.  But just from watching it looks like  a million hours and then off for days when she is out of town.  Certainly shades of Devil Wears Prada.  I always wonder what drivers like hers and Fredrick's make for a living. I know that it is her car because she was teasing once about maybe I should buy one of those next time.  And if the only job they have is driving for them, what do they do when they aren't driving?

[BBHN]

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I think the point about it is that Beth didn't want these people there in the first place. This was a hostile environment. She had work colleagues there and a film crew. They were walking around in their boxers, which wasn't usual for them, and it appeared they were doing it to make her and the work crew uncomfortable. This is why I think Momma and Poppa Hoppy are as creepy and deranged as Jason. Most folks in that situation would say "son, why don't we all just stay at a hotel while we are in town due to the circumstances". It could not have been a comfortable situation for any of them, and why they would want to particulate in, let alone exacerbate the situation, says a lot about them IMO. 

Looks like douchebaggery runs in the family.

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I have to question why Bethenny would schedule a photo shoot with a craft table no less.  How long could the crew have possibly been there?  

She was being nice enough to feed them?

[Ki-in]

6 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

  

Why should the Hoppys, who are there to see the granddaughter and son be relegated to a hotel? 

I think a lot of family visits would be happier if people stayed in hotels instead of at someone's home (if you can afford it and it seems like they could).

[zoeysmom]

9 minutes ago, QuinnM said:

The testimony was that there was a magazine shoot at the apartment using the SG bar with the 6 ft SG logo.  She was under oath not just flapping her gums to Perez Hilton.  The crew that was there were provided with a craft services table (food).  And in the middle of Bethenny doing her business, you know the business that paid for the apartment and douchebag's $2K dry cleaning bill, Hoppy and his dad wandered out in their under ware and were grazing on the crew's craft services food.  That's one of the reasons I think his parents are creepy.  Who does that?

That's still doable.  As of her visit last year, she's still married, kids, Pittsburgh?, and a friend of Bethenny's.  There wasn't a lot on Snap but enough to see that she was staying at B's.

Actually the testimony didn't say anything about a magazine, just that "when she was having a photo shoot done."  As in she hired someone to shoot the apartment. TO me it would be the difference between being hired as a  model and having head shots done.   http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/lawyers-bethenny-frankel-estranged-husband-battle-custody-trial-article-1.1808281 

[BBHN]

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"when she was having a photo shoot done."

Just because the article doesn't provide the details of the photo shoot, that doesn't necessarily mean a magazine wasn't involved.

[smores]

Listen, the thing is, if we give Jason all the benefit in the world of getting advice from his lawyer to "not leave the apartment" then we pretty much have to assume that B got the same.  She had been building/decorating that apartment on her show, so doing a photoshoot in it, or keeping her offices in it would be the same thing as Jason not changing his routine and still living in the apartment per his lawyer's advice.  His parents can visit and stay there?  Well, she can keep her offices and related work there.  That's a double edged sword.

[zoeysmom]

1 minute ago, smores said:

Listen, the thing is, if we give Jason all the benefit in the world of getting advice from his lawyer to "not leave the apartment" then we pretty much have to assume that B got the same.  She had been building/decorating that apartment on her show, so doing a photoshoot in it, or keeping her offices in it would be the same thing as Jason not changing his routine and still living in the apartment per his lawyer's advice.  His parents can visit and stay there?  Well, she can keep her offices and related work there.  That's a double edged sword.

Yep and it became the "War of the Roses", only without as good looking a cast.

[QuinnM]

3 minutes ago, BBHN said:

Just because the article doesn't provide the details of the photo shoot, that doesn't necessarily mean a magazine wasn't involved.

And let's remember this week.  ROL reports delay due to prosecution not realeasing all discovery.  Then PageSix reports in and Jason asked for dismissal, the state countered with two more charges.  So it seems every gossip rag just picks and chooses parts to print.  Neither was wrong but neither was complete.

[film noire]

On 6/28/2017 at 3:38 PM, motorcitymom65 said:

She had work colleagues there and a film crew. 

Everybody she's ever worked with has seen her pee on camera, scream obscenities on camera -- as well as this post of her ass in underwear on instagram -- so I'm not getting the Gentle Lady of Work Etiquettia thing here.

 

Edited June 30, 2017 by film noire

[zoeysmom]

6 minutes ago, QuinnM said:

And let's remember this week.  ROL reports delay due to prosecution not realeasing all discovery.  Then PageSix reports in and Jason asked for dismissal, the state countered with two more charges.  So it seems every gossip rag just picks and chooses parts to print.  Neither was wrong but neither was complete.

ROL also called the DA's office Bethenny's legal team.  That would a very wrong representation of our legal process.

[BBHN]

I think the point is, don't believe everything ROL says...

[zoeysmom]

My point is I took the testimony which would indicate to me, the photo shoot was something she had hired individuals for Skinnygirl promotions versus a magazine interview.  One would think that if a reporter witnessed the boorish behavior it would have been mentioned as an aside to the planned shoot. 

[QuinnM]

3 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

My point is I took the testimony which would indicate to me, the photo shoot was something she had hired individuals for Skinnygirl promotions versus a magazine interview.  One would think that if a reporter witnessed the boorish behavior it would have been menti

Nah, that kind of stupid stuff happens all the time.  They just do their job and move on.  Then quietly discuss this person's diva behavior or that persons BO.  They are great sources of rags.  Someone once told me that the assistant blah, blah is always the one with TMZ on speed dial.  But that person was a make up artist who gossiped a lot, so grain of salt.

[BBHN]

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My point is I took the testimony which would indicate to me

That article counts as testimony?

[the killer]

31 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

ROL also called the DA's office Bethenny's legal team.  That would a very wrong representation of our legal process.

It is a misrepresentation of fact but not intent. The DA seems to be withholding discovery. What that usually means that there is something in the facts that if it is common knowledge would make a reasonable person dismiss the case out of hand. So they try and withhold anything that would exonerate the defendant. They do not want to taint the possible jury pool. They want to spring the exonerating information at the last minute so they can minimize it. Instead of letting the Defense talk about it in the opening statement and shaping the testimony to reinforce it.

You have to realize that when you dealing with Assistant DA's you are often dealing with petty nasty people who would get off on sticking it to someone who has been on TV.

I would like to know who is the lead ADA on the case. That will make a big difference as to how this case will be prosecuted. It is clear that the DA is being vindictive and sleazy because the defendant is demanding to be tried by a jury of his peers. That is how they work.

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[BBHN]

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You have to realize that when you dealing with Assistant DA's you are often dealing with petty nasty people who would get off on sticking it to someone who has been on TV.

That's an unfair generalization.

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It is clear that the DA is being vindictive and sleazy because the defendant is demanding to be tried by a jury of his peers

How is it clear, exactly? And when did Jason demand that? I thought his lawyer was trying to dismiss the case, not ask for a trial by jury.

Edited June 28, 2017 by BBHN

[Martinigirl]

A new complaint was introduced in court on Tuesday that detailed new harassing text messages and emails from Hoppy to Frankel

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4644704/Bethenny-Frankel-parties-LA-Jason-Hoppy-charged.html#ixzz4lKfmKq00 
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Edited June 28, 2017 by Martinigirl

[the killer]

1 minute ago, BBHN said:

That's an unfair generalization.

No it's not. You obviously don't know any assistant DA"s.

 

2 minutes ago, BBHN said:

How is it clear, exactly? And when did Jason demand that? I thought his lawyer was trying to dismiss the case, not as for a trial by jury.

It is clear by piling on more charges in an attempt to intimidate him while refusing legitimate discovery. Of course he is asking for a dismissal. That is what you do. He is asking for a trial by his peers because he refused to accept a very lenient plea deal because he knows he is innocent. The legal machine hates that. They want to steamroll you. Even Legal Aid plays along. The plea deal is the grease that lets the system work. If you stand up for your rights they want to make an example out of you.

I think that is what is happening in this case. Otherwise why are they holding back discovery?

[smores]

Wow, now even the entire legal system is out to get poor little Jason?  

[Martinigirl]

Nah, the new discovery was just entered on Tuesday... What do you think they were asking for? They were asking for the  NEW evidence.

Edited June 28, 2017 by Martinigirl

[BBHN]

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No it's not. You obviously don't know any assistant DA"s.

If that were true, wouldn't they rather "stick it to" Bethenny and drop all the charges, considering she is a much bigger reality TV star that Jason?

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Of course he is asking for a dismissal. That is what you do.

And if there are other things that he should be charged for, isn't that that DA's job? Isn't that what they are supposed to do?

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He is asking for a trial by his peers because he refused to accept a very lenient plea deal because he knows he is innocent.

Again, when did he ask for a trial by jury? I wasn't aware that refusing a plea deal = asking for a trial by jury.

[Martinigirl]

No reason to drag this chit out...unless of course, he is guilty.

[the killer]

Asking for discovery of what they have as "proof" and refusing to be intimidated by the legal system means you are guilty?

The legal system turns it's full weight on anyone who refuses to accept a plea. It is not because it is Jason or because he is a  minor TV figure. They would not go after Bethenny because I bet the dumpy DA is star struck.

Jason would want to go before a jury because if he is innocent that is the only chance he has of being given fair treatment. Anybody facing the legal system should realize their only chance is to go before a reasonable jury of their peers. Don't leave it up to the DA, the judge, the legal system or the media.

If you don't believe me.......ask Bill Cosby.

[KungFuBunny]

15 minutes ago, BBHN said:

If that were true, wouldn't they rather "stick it to" Bethenny and drop all the charges, considering she is a much bigger reality TV star that Jason?

And if there are other things that he should be charged for, isn't that that DA's job? Isn't that what they are supposed to do?

Again, when did he ask for a trial by jury? I wasn't aware that refusing a plea deal = asking for a trial by jury.

As a viewer I'm asking for Trial By Combat..Bronn is at the ready to shove Jason Douchebag out the Moon Door

[the killer]

I just don't like bullies.

I think Bethenny is the biggest bully on all of the Real Housewives  franchisees.

She shows it on every episode in almost every interaction with anyone she comes in contact with in one way or another.

You can say what you want about Jason.....but he could be Ted Bundy.......and he would still be preferable to Bethenny.

[BBHN]

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The legal system turns it's full weight on anyone who refuses to accept a plea. It is not because it is Jason or because he is a  minor TV figure.

But isn't he being persecuted by nasty ADAs who get off on sticking it to someone who has been on TV?

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They would not go after Bethenny because I bet the dumpy DA is star struck.

Well, that and Bethenny hasn't done anything in this case that would warrant her getting arrested to begin with...

[smores]

Really?  You don't feel like the people who got physical with other people are bigger bullies?  Or, Vicki holding a fake cancer scam over other cast mates and shaming them for it?  That seems way worse to me than B yelling at people, who, by the way, seem to have brushed it off.

[Martinigirl]

Well, in Bethenny's defense...

Luann did sleep with married men

Ramona is not a very good friend

Kelly is most def coo coo for cocoa puffs

yada yada yada

[KungFuBunny]

The crowd outside cheers

Am I the only one giggling about "Discovery" - excuse me, Douchebag and Alex Spiro Esquire - wouldn't that be all of the emails and texts that Jason sent? Did he delete them all from his phone thinking no one would know? Is he having problems remembering what he wrote?

[Ellee]

5 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Well, in Bethenny's defense...

Luann did sleep with married men

Ramona is not a very good friend

Kelly is most def coo coo for cocoa puffs

yada yada yada

.... and a pirate. 

.... unless your sick. She'll bring soup every day. 

.... and always has a supply of gummy bears and knows the difference between a cook and a chef. 

.... I thought Jill was a yenta.  Am I wrong again?  :D

Wasn't having the best of days. Thanks to all that posted. 

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

3 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

 Grifter Grammy 

 

Ouch. Grifter ? That is strong.  Aside from Brynn caught in the crossfire, his parents don't deserve this IMHO. I don't like the hard time they are being given .  

[smores]

They were fine participating, though.  His mom notarized the docs.  I'm not going to get into whether or not it was a fraudulent doc or not, but as a notary, she has to know she is not able to notarize a doc in the state of NY.  If they brought the docs to her in PA, all good.  But, she can't come to NY and notarize them.  It's on her to either accept the fallout from doing something against whatever her code/rules are, or just say, no, can't do it.  She did it, so she has to deal with the fallout.

And the dad? Sorry, but wearing your underwear around other people who are not your spouse is yucky.  I guess it could be ok if it was also around your child, if that's how your family rolls, but, to me, also yucky.  My family didn't roll like that, I wouldn't allow my husband to do it, and so, I don't see it as ok to do to strangers.  That he felt it was ok, well, you do get the flak for it.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

3 hours ago, Martinigirl said:

They both sauntered up to the trays of food to help themselves IN THEIR UNDERPANTS!!!

 

3 hours ago, film noire said:

Frankel did her best to make it sound like ol' Gramps was wearing a geriatric g-string & freeballin',  but in court she admitted he was wearing boxers and a tank top, which is more covered up than he'd be if he was at the beach with Bryn.

It is HIS residence! They can walk around in whatever they want!

3 hours ago, WireWrap said:

 

Bethenny made the claim that Jason and his father walked around the apartment in their underwear as if it were some scandalous, threatening thing to do. Turns out they were wearing boxers and T shirts. In other words, Bethenny tried to paint as bad a picture of them as possible and then had to admit to the truth in court, that it wasn't what she as she claimed. The great exaggerator/liar got caught! LOL

 

2 hours ago, breezy424 said:

Well, to be fair Beth has peed three times on national TV.  First on the stick.  Then in the bucket.  And then on the side of road just about a mile from Smithville, NJ.  And just a couple of weeks ago she was walking around with her bra on.  And in a few weeks we get to watch her running naked into a pool.   Just sayin.

And on FILM! B is vile. 

[smores]

Nope, nope, nope.  My FIL, heck, my father, may NOT walk around in whatever they want.  I dress appropriately when I leave my room when there are other people around, and I expect the same.  More to the point, even IF someone told me that it was fine for me to sit around in just a towel after my shower, I still wouldn't do it, because it's not appropriate to do that when anyone other than my husband is around.  

[KungFuBunny]

10 minutes ago, smores said:

They were fine participating, though.  His mom notarized the docs.  I'm not going to get into whether or not it was a fraudulent doc or not, but as a notary, she has to know she is not able to notarize a doc in the state of NY.  If they brought the docs to her in PA, all good.  But, she can't come to NY and notarize them.  It's on her to either accept the fallout from doing something against whatever her code/rules are, or just say, no, can't do it.  She did it, so she has to deal with the fallout.

And the dad? Sorry, but wearing your underwear around other people who are not your spouse is yucky.  I guess it could be ok if it was also around your child, if that's how your family rolls, but, to me, also yucky.  My family didn't roll like that, I wouldn't allow my husband to do it, and so, I don't see it as ok to do to strangers.  That he felt it was ok, well, you do get the flak for it.

All notary publics also know when the notarization presents a conflict of interest that impairs the Notary’s impartiality to decline. Such as when the signer is your spouse, parent or child or the document to be notarized references your spouse, parent or child.

A notary public is supposed to keep a log of everything they notarize. They get a signature from the signer in their logbook. The people who have had Carol Hoppy notarize their documents should make sure what she did was legit, especially if she was notarizing things out of her state - which she should have known from the jump is wrong