Jesus God, Leah!!

[ReadMeLattice]

I like the braids. Wish I could do fishtail. 

[Faul McCartney]

4 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

Has anyone here ever dug up information on her home? Is it listed in her name? 

I can dig up some info...does anyone know what city or county she lives in?

[monicageller]

12 minutes ago, Faul McCartney said:

I can dig up some info...does anyone know what city or county she lives in?

Kanawha County, if I remember correctly (I may be wrong, but it sounds familiar/right).

[Mkay]

4 hours ago, Faul McCartney said:

I can dig up some info...does anyone know what city or county she lives in?

She's in Bomont which is Clay county.  I went to public tax records and zillow to look for sold homes the last two yea all over Elkview, Clendanin, and Bomont and couldn't find it at all. Clay county doesn't let you search by name but Kenawha does. (Which would be elkview/clendanin). 

 

When the episode aired about buying her house and she  meets Cory and tells him she bought a house   When he mumbles a reply she mumbles "in Bomont."  I knew nothing about that area so I was searching for Beaumont and sure enough, there is a Bomont the same amount of miles away she said on the episode.  

I came across an address in Bomont with her name attached in the white pages. But when I googled the address it came back to a trucking company.  ?‍♀️

Edited July 28, 2017 by Mkay

[Mkay]

[Miss Chevious]

Who the hell are all those people? She's got an entire entourage to go to Busch Gardens?! BTW, Gracie is way too big to be riding in a stroller. Just sayin'.

[Mkay]

1 minute ago, Miss Chevious said:

Who the hell are all those people? She's got an entire entourage to go to Busch Gardens?! BTW, Gracie is way too big to be riding in a stroller. Just sayin'.

Of course they had to take the camera crew along.  Mama dawn riding a scooter, too. Guess Leah brought along a hired friend.  

[poopchute]

I wonder if this is another example of her traveling somewhere "all by herself."

[Rebecca]

On 7/22/2017 at 3:40 PM, Mkay said:

Dawn still thinks she's a teenager. 

 

 

Is that supposed to be cute? #fail Also, it looks like she's doing her hair like Leah did back in the 16 and P days. Jesus God, she looks 57 and she's around 40, right?

Oh and, of course, the town is spelled "Bomont" ....

On 7/27/2017 at 10:49 AM, Lm2162 said:

@Tatum, what you wrote is so so true. I see this with my own students. Unfortunately, many of the ones who need the most work don't know and are baffled by just how far behind their peers they are. When they get C's or D's, they tend to say things like "but I worked really hard." Come to find out that one student who had a month to work on a project had worked on it for 4 days when I pushed him to give me details. I'm sure he was thinking, "but my roommate pulled an all nighter and I worked on it for half a week and he got an A." Well, yes-- and you need to work more than 4 times harder and longer than your peers to get the same results. You're not graded based on your own perceived effort. I don't think someone like Leah is going to understand just how far behind they are. 

Excellent analysis of the situation!

On 7/27/2017 at 2:54 PM, zenme said:

I'm sure Leah takes at least 20 pics before she posts one and THAT'S the one she selects?

I think that soooo often about these people, especially Leah and Kailyn.

14 hours ago, Miss Chevious said:

Who the hell are all those people? She's got an entire entourage to go to Busch Gardens?! BTW, Gracie is way too big to be riding in a stroller. Just sayin'.

My exact thoughts, literally.

14 hours ago, Mkay said:

Of course they had to take the camera crew along.  Mama dawn riding a scooter, too. Guess Leah brought along a hired friend.  

The last thing Dawn should be doing is using a scooter instead of walking, unless she's injured, what the hell?

4 hours ago, poopchute said:

I wonder if this is another example of her traveling somewhere "all by herself."

Hahaha! Like Jenelle, when Leah says she's alone she really means she's without a penis at the moment, no other people count.

Edited July 29, 2017 by Rebecca

[CofCinci]

Da fuq is Mama Dawn riding in a scooter?  These fucks only pull out the wheelchair and the scooter in order to avoid waiting in line. 

[ghoulina]

Yuuuup. Bingo!

[lilmarysunshine]

On 7/27/2017 at 10:49 AM, Lm2162 said:

@Tatum, what you wrote is so so true. I see this with my own students. Unfortunately, many of the ones who need the most work don't know and are baffled by just how far behind their peers they are. When they get C's or D's, they tend to say things like "but I worked really hard." Come to find out that one student who had a month to work on a project had worked on it for 4 days when I pushed him to give me details. I'm sure he was thinking, "but my roommate pulled an all nighter and I worked on it for half a week and he got an A." Well, yes-- and you need to work more than 4 times harder and longer than your peers to get the same results. You're not graded based on your own perceived effort. I don't think someone like Leah is going to understand just how far behind they are. 

Yep. Everyone is not suited for a four year academic endeavor in college. It doesn't mean she can't be successful or productive in a career, though. She just has to find one that matches her talents.

I am also a teacher and I find that kids who don't either have high intellectual ability, interest, or a strong work ethic really struggle in advanced classes in high school.  I can work with kids but they have to have one of those 3 traits!  I'll even take interest if they love the subject. But often they don't.  I think Leah is like that.

Edited July 29, 2017 by lilmarysunshine

[GreatKazu]

Does Busch Gardens allow front of the line if you are using a scooter?  We visit Six Flags quite often, but this one time when my plantar fasciitis was at its worst, I had to use a scooter. I had a doctor's note regarding my issue. It didn't get me in the front of the line at all. What we did was return to the ride at a certain time and then we had to wait about 15 minutes before I could be let on the ride, but the rest of my family could not get on. They had to wait in the line with everyone else. Same thing at Disneyland. Disneyland had just changed their handicapped rule about being allowed to go in the front of the line after the local news did an undercover segment about people hiring people with handicaps so they can then go to the front of the line. I couldn't believe that shit! Families paying people at least $150 to $300 to use them for front of the line privilege. 

[DangerousMinds]

My 80+ year old dad had to use a scooter at Disney a few years ago, and it definitely didn't get him to the front of any lines.

[Mkay]

They brought Ali's wheelchair, too. They went to disney as well. Does that get them to the front? It's just odd that we never see Leah use it until she goes on vacation where there are lines. ?

[lilmarysunshine]

I know someone who recently went to Disney with a girl with mild autism and they received accommodations.

[ReadMeLattice]

15 minutes ago, Mkay said:

They brought Ali's wheelchair, too. They went to disney as well. Does that get them to the front? It's just odd that we never see Leah use it until she goes on vacation where there are lines. ?

No, they changed it because people were pretending to be wheelchair users to get to the front of lines. Now you get a number and come back at an assigned time. It's pretty unfortunate for people who need it as it really changes your experience of the park, but too many people were faking. 

Edited July 29, 2017 by Lm2162

[GreatKazu]

1 hour ago, lilmarysunshine said:

I know someone who recently went to Disney with a girl with mild autism and they received accommodations.

Not front of the line privilege, right? We have yearly passes to Disneyland. In the last year we have gone at least four times. Not once did I see anyone with any sort of disability, mental or physical, be allowed front of the line privilege. What I do know is that children or adults with autism or cognitive disabilities are allowed to wait in a special area for various rides. However, Disneyland is so strict now with how they hand out passes for that reason. One parent told me her doctor's note wasn't enough because those can be doctored or fake ones can be obtained. 

Here is the information pertaining to Busch Gardens:

https://buschgardens.com/tampa/park-info/accessibility-guide/

 

Leah has MTV money and child support money. You know she pays for the VIP passes and all the perks that come with it at all of these amusement parks. 

[lilmarysunshine]

17 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

Not front of the line privilege, right? We have yearly passes to Disneyland. In the last year we have gone at least four times. Not once did I see anyone with any sort of disability, mental or physical, be allowed front of the line privilege. What I do know is that children or adults with autism or cognitive disabilities are allowed to wait in a special area for various rides. However, Disneyland is so strict now with how they hand out passes for that reason. One parent told me her doctor's note wasn't enough because those can be doctored or fake ones can be obtained. 

Here is the information pertaining to Busch Gardens:

https://buschgardens.com/tampa/park-info/accessibility-guide/

 

Leah has MTV money and child support money. You know she pays for the VIP passes and all the perks that come with it at all of these amusement parks. 

Close to it, I think. He just said they never had to wait more than a few minutes and said the accommodations were amazing. I'm not sure what kind of proof they needed.

[LegallyRed2]

She's not in Bormont, she's in Elkview.  You can google the address of any of these people on truepeoplesearch.com for free.

[Scarlett45]

1 hour ago, lilmarysunshine said:

Close to it, I think. He just said they never had to wait more than a few minutes and said the accommodations were amazing. I'm not sure what kind of proof they needed.

They had the DAS pass, which isn't related to mobility related disabilities but any cognitive disability that would prohibit someone from waiting in the standard line. You're given a time to come back equal to what the current wait time is and then go through the fast pass line. 

[Mkay]

I also found an address in Bomont with her name on it.  I know she said Bomont in the episode. 

 

If her drive was an hr to college Elk View shows it's 20 mins. If she drove from Bomont to college, it says 47 mins.  I'll keep looking. 

 

 

Edited July 30, 2017 by Mkay

[Mkay]

 

For whoever asked, she mentioned in another episode that she paid 110,000.00 for her house. 

Edited July 30, 2017 by Mkay

[GreatKazu]

Leah's home is in actually her name? 

Edited July 30, 2017 by GreatKazu

[Mkay]

2 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

Leah's home is in actually her name? 

If it is I can't see it. Clay county doesn't have the option of searching property records by name. Only by address or a parcel/ID number. :/

[lilmarysunshine]

6 hours ago, Lm2162 said:

No, they changed it because people were pretending to be wheelchair users to get to the front of lines. Now you get a number and come back at an assigned time. It's pretty unfortunate for people who need it as it really changes your experience of the park, but too many people were faking. 

That is what I read - people with physical handicaps essentially get a FastPass for rides. I think there are shorter lines available, though, for developmental disabilities. 

3 hours ago, Mkay said:

I also found an address in Bomont with her name on it.  I know she said Bomont in the episode. 

 

If her drive was an hr to college Elk View shows it's 20 mins. If she drove from Bomont to college, it says 47 mins.  I'll keep looking. 

 

 

Is Dawn's name Delta Dawn? Oh, lord. lol

[Mkay]

1 hour ago, lilmarysunshine said:

That is what I read - people with physical handicaps essentially get a FastPass for rides. I think there are shorter lines available, though, for developmental disabilities. 

Is Dawn's name Delta Dawn? Oh, lord. lol

It is. ?

[GreatKazu]

Left Hand, West Virginia...lol 

[mamadrama]

8 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

Not front of the line privilege, right? We have yearly passes to Disneyland. In the last year we have gone at least four times. Not once did I see anyone with any sort of disability, mental or physical, be allowed front of the line privilege. What I do know is that children or adults with autism or cognitive disabilities are allowed to wait in a special area for various rides. However, Disneyland is so strict now with how they hand out passes for that reason. One parent told me her doctor's note wasn't enough because those can be doctored or fake ones can be obtained. 

Here is the information pertaining to Busch Gardens:

https://buschgardens.com/tampa/park-info/accessibility-guide/

 

Leah has MTV money and child support money. You know she pays for the VIP passes and all the perks that come with it at all of these amusement parks. 

I am not trying to be snarky here or anything, honestly curious...If parks gave front-of-the-line privileges or extra VIP services to everyone with a disability (physical or mental) would that kind of be defeating the purpose of the accommodations? And I ask this as someone who has a disability AND a disabled child. There isn't a single person I am close to who doesn't have a disability, or problem with mobility, that wouldn't make accessing a theme park difficult: rheumatoid arthritis, PTSD, severe anxiety, fibro, MS, cancer, brain abnormalities (I am missing part of my brain and skull, which makes walking and speaking difficult-not to mention balance), osteoarthritis, autism, etc. This interests me because I recently went to a function where those with disabilities were able to go first. There were around 50 of us and only 4 were left behind. As a result, the disabled didn't get a perk-their line was longer! Just a weird thing, I guess. I have a lot of time to think. 

[CofCinci]

They force her into softball against the specialists recommendations -- but she's instantly disabled when it benefits the group. 

[ReadMeLattice]

12 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

They had the DAS pass, which isn't related to mobility related disabilities but any cognitive disability that would prohibit someone from waiting in the standard line. You're given a time to come back equal to what the current wait time is and then go through the fast pass line. 

 

5 hours ago, mamadrama said:

I am not trying to be snarky here or anything, honestly curious...If parks gave front-of-the-line privileges or extra VIP services to everyone with a disability (physical or mental) would that kind of be defeating the purpose of the accommodations? And I ask this as someone who has a disability AND a disabled child. There isn't a single person I am close to who doesn't have a disability, or problem with mobility, that wouldn't make accessing a theme park difficult: rheumatoid arthritis, PTSD, severe anxiety, fibro, MS, cancer, brain abnormalities (I am missing part of my brain and skull, which makes walking and speaking difficult-not to mention balance), osteoarthritis, autism, etc. This interests me because I recently went to a function where those with disabilities were able to go first. There were around 50 of us and only 4 were left behind. As a result, the disabled didn't get a perk-their line was longer! Just a weird thing, I guess. I have a lot of time to think. 

It is meant to be for things that require it, such as being a wheelchair user, which takes extra time to board, so being in a separate line makes sense for everyone. It would also apply to those who are demonstrably too physically vulnerable to wait outside or stand for that long or for particular developmental disabilities that make waiting extremely difficult or impossible, not only for them but also those around them. It would not be "any" disability (though people try to lie a lot like they do with disabled parking). Under the ADA you would need to describe the accommodations needed and why. Disney now requires notification from a doctor because people were even faking needing mobility devices.  

Ali would not qualify at Disney as she has only a mobility issue, not a cognitive one or an illness. Navigating Disney and other parks with a wheelchair is definitely not a "perk" or any special treatment even at the front of the line; having done it several times recently it is exceedingly difficult even with accommodations that are meant to make things equal, and often park employees aren't actually trained to deal with then well. Also, not everyone in your party gets to use the pass, it's limited, so it could potentially make the whole thing a lot harder for the whole group or they would have to separate. I think it's safe to say they perhaps just had her use the wheelchair this time because she needed it or gets tired, which is great if true. 

Edited July 30, 2017 by Lm2162

[LegallyRed2]

If you google the address that comes up in Elkview, it's obviously the house they were filming in. If the college is only 20 minutes away, she'd be blowing smoke again. Go figure.

[ReadMeLattice]

8 hours ago, Mkay said:

It is. ?

.....that just changed my life. 

[leighroda]

7 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

Left Hand, West Virginia...lol 

I knew I couldn't be the only one who saw this ?

[ReadMeLattice]

31 minutes ago, leighroda said:

I knew I couldn't be the only one who saw this ?

They should learn to use those more...

[Mkay]

9 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

Left Hand, West Virginia...lol 

That's where her and Germy's house was, before deer camera gate. Ha!

6 hours ago, CofCinci said:

They force her into softball against the specialists recommendations -- but she's instantly disabled when it benefits the group. 

??

[GreatKazu]

6 hours ago, Lm2162 said:

 

It is meant to be for things that require it, such as being a wheelchair user, which takes extra time to board, so being in a separate line makes sense for everyone. It would also apply to those who are demonstrably too physically vulnerable to wait outside or stand for that long or for particular developmental disabilities that make waiting extremely difficult or impossible, not only for them but also those around them. It would not be "any" disability (though people try to lie a lot like they do with disabled parking). Under the ADA you would need to describe the accommodations needed and why. Disney now requires notification from a doctor because people were even faking needing mobility devices.  

Ali would not qualify at Disney as she has only a mobility issue, not a cognitive one or an illness. Navigating Disney and other parks with a wheelchair is definitely not a "perk" or any special treatment even at the front of the line; having done it several times recently it is exceedingly difficult even with accommodations that are meant to make things equal, and often park employees aren't actually trained to deal with then well. Also, not everyone in your party gets to use the pass, it's limited, so it could potentially make the whole thing a lot harder for the whole group or they would have to separate. I think it's safe to say they perhaps just had her use the wheelchair this time because she needed it or gets tired, which is great if true. 

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Under the ADA you would need to describe the accommodations needed and why. Disney now requires notification from a doctor because people were even faking needing mobility devices.  

My understanding is that no one is supposed to ask about one's disability. However, at places such as Disneyland, it is in your best interest to reveal as much as you can so the park employee can make the determination as to what your needs are and how they can accommodate you. 

The whole thing has changed "dramastically" in the last five years and it is all due to those who took advantage of the system in place for those who truly needed it. Leah and her family are the type of people to try and take advantage of every perk offered for those with disabilities. As @CofCinci pointed out, they love the perks of having a special needs child. 

Edited July 30, 2017 by GreatKazu
removed the "but". If only Kail could do the same.

[Rebecca]

11 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

Left Hand, West Virginia...lol 

I giggled. Extra funny that she should've used that when she living there and Jeremy was working.

3 hours ago, Lm2162 said:

They should learn to use those more...

Yes, I hope that's also the name of Leah's new BF! And thanks for explaining the accessibility info in regard to amusement parks, I was curious too.

[ghoulina]

https://wdpromedia.disney.go.com/media/wdpro-assets/dlr/help/guest-services/guests-with-disabilities/dlr-disability-access-service_2017-07-17.pdf

 

^^^ Disney policy. 

 

https://buschgardens.com/tampa/park-info/accessibility-guide/

 

^^^ Busch Gardens. Fairly similar. 

 

It seems being in a wheelchair or scooter doesn't automatically qualify you, it's your ability to wait in long lines. A kid with Autism would probably have a worse time than someone who's sitting in a chair. 

 

That being said, I think at a lot of parks (regardless of disabilities) you can purchase "fast pass" tickets for an extra cost. This allows you to skip to the front of lines once per ride. 

 

Knowing the Messer clan, they wouldn't have done their research on ANY of this. They'd just show up with a scooter and think the Red Sea is partin' for them. 

[GreatKazu]

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That being said, I think at a lot of parks (regardless of disabilities) you can purchase "fast pass" tickets for an extra cost. This allows you to skip to the front of lines once per ride. 

 

Knowing the Messer clan, they wouldn't have done their research on ANY of this. They'd just show up with a scooter and think the Red Sea is partin' for them. 

Disney is the exception. They don't offer higher-priced tickets for front of the line access. Just the Fast Pass. 

lol @ the Red Sea comment. 

[Christina87]

at Disney world, you can get three fast passes a day, and you can do it on the app. I love it!!! I had to miss one, so I was able to reschedule it for night, right there on the app. And y'all...riding splash mountain is so much more fun at night! During the outside portions of the ride, you can see the fireworks!

not sure about Disneyland, though. They still have the paper fast passes. 

Edited July 30, 2017 by Christina87

[ReadMeLattice]

3 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

My understanding is that no one is supposed to ask about one's disability. However, at places such as Disneyland, it is in your best interest to reveal as much as you can so the park employee can make the determination as to what your needs are and how they can accommodate you. 

The whole thing has changed "dramastically" in the last five years and it is all due to those who took advantage of the system in place for those who truly needed it. Leah and her family are the type of people to try and take advantage of every perk offered for those with disabilities. As @CofCinci pointed out, they love the perks of having a special needs child. 

They're not supposed to, but it's pretty rare that they don't if someone is visibly disabled unless they're pretty well trained about the ADA. The asking is sometimes helpful, sometimes harmful. Especially now that people fake it so often. It used to happen more often with invisible disabilities only and then people actually started faking being wheelchair users. Pretty ballsy *eyeroll*. So annoying. 

That said, the shorter waits, when they exist, are really perks for everybody, so it's a shame. They make the lines shorter for everyone in case someone needs assistance and ensure something slightly closer to equal treatment given that a lot of rides still aren't going to be accessible to Ali, so the ones that are she can board separately. For her sake I hope they did take any available accommodations instead of pushing her to get up and out of the chair like her sister (grumble grumble), which I can TOTALLY see them doing. I'm glad they brought the wheelchair if only because she likely can't get around the park quickly and it makes me sick to watch her be pushed to do so against doctor's orders.  I'm always hopeful that the Messer clan will get it together re: Ali. *Sigh* don't kill the dream! They're going to go to classes for parents of disabled children and read extensively about her condition and how to empower her, don'tcha know. 

Edited July 30, 2017 by Lm2162

[CofCinci]

Also keep in mind that Disney has that VIP system.  One has to pay for the guide, but they get to the head of the line.  $400-$600 an hour, which they can afford if Leah stays away from the Pillses.

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/events-tours/vip-tour-services/

But I can see them trying to scam the system instead. 

[GreatKazu]

4 hours ago, CofCinci said:

Also keep in mind that Disney has that VIP system.  One has to pay for the guide, but they get to the head of the line.  $400-$600 an hour, which they can afford if Leah stays away from the Pillses.

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/events-tours/vip-tour-services/

But I can see them trying to scam the system instead. 

That is what I mentioned in my post. I can see Leah paying the extra money because hell if she is going to stay in any damn line with her entourage. It is nothing to her to plunk down $5000.00 in order to get the VIP treatment. Is she being filmed at these amusement parks by MTV? If so, they might be giving MTV the chance to film there with Leah getting the perks. I can see her asking Germy and Cory to help pitch in so she can take their girlses to these places. 

[Faul McCartney]

23 hours ago, Mkay said:

If it is I can't see it. Clay county doesn't have the option of searching property records by name. Only by address or a parcel/ID number. :/

Hmm nothing is showing up in the title company software either. Maybe she had the wherewithal to put it in the name of a trust or a LLC? AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Tatum]

18 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Knowing the Messer clan, they wouldn't have done their research on ANY of this. They'd just show up with a scooter and think the Red Sea is partin' for them. 

I'm sure you're right. Just because Disney and the other parks don't automatically award front of the line privileges to every wheelchair user (and their extended families), does not mean the Messer crew didn't just show up fully expecting that to be the case. I'd like to think that even a bimbo like Leah would be fully aware that walking a huge park for an entire day would be impossible for Ali, and the chair was brought regardless of any potential perks. But who are we kidding- Leah and fam probably just didn't want to be slowed down by Ali walking.

[TeenMomAngerMgmt]

I will attempt to be kind here and just say that I hope the girlses had a good time at Disney. I went there this year for the first time ever. It's super impressive. 

[druzy]

Sorry if this was already posted!

Leah Messer: I'd Put My Husband Ahead of My Kids (If I Had One)!

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Leah Messer: I'd Put My Husband Ahead of My Kids (If I Had One)! 

by Emily Trainham at July 23, 2017 4:43 pm.

Leah Messer used to be one of the hottest messes in Teen Mom history.

She was filmed nodding off while holding a baby, she lost custody of her twins because she couldn't manage to get them to school on time ...

It was bad. Really bad.

But after her trip to rehab a couple of years ago, she seems to be doing much better.

These days, at long last, it finally seems like she's starting to get her life together.

And that's why it's extra odd that she chose to make such a controversial, concerning statement on Instagram.

Last night, Leah reposted a quote from Christian life coach about marriage and children.

"Ladies," the quote read, "in marriage your husband comes first, then your child. As a single mother who isn't married, of course you shouldn't put any man before them, but that changes when you vow to be one with a man."

"He comes first as your partner, provider and protector."

And before you ask, no, this quote didn't come from a Duggar woman's social media page. This is actually from Leah.

In the caption, she explicitly stated that she agrees with this sentiment ... and her followers were not pleased.

"This is the stupidest thing I have heard," one of them wrote. "Your kids always come first, you married someone to start a life not to be their slave."

"What century do you live in because a man is NOT the only provider in a household in today's world. And if he doesn't care about his kids and more about his needs and wants then honey you married the wrong man."

"Nope, kids FIRST," another person told her. "I am actually surprised that you think a husband should come first ..."

"Stupid! You have too many baby daddies to pull this!" another naysayer wrote.

One of her followers even told her "You're not a good role model for our 3 girls if you think that way. We don't live in the year 1800 anymore. Take responsibility for your own be a strong woman."

And that's just a small sample of the kind of criticism she's been getting -- so far, the post has over 2,000 comments, most of them from people who disagree with her here.

And honestly, it really is surprising that she feels this way.

It makes sense that it's important to make marriage a priority instead of placing 100% of your time and energy into your children, but Leah's a single mother.

If she does remarry, of course she has to put her kids first, right?

Not to mention any quote about depending on a man to be the "provider and protector" sends up red flags, especially because Leah has been providing for her children for many years now.

It's actually hard to imagine any relationship she'd be in in which she wasn't the main provider, what with all that Teen Mom money.

Then there's the fact that in her previous marriages, her husbands didn't come first, nor did her children -- she actually put herself first.

Remember, she cheated on both Corey Simms and Jeremy Calvert.

We're sure she's grown since then though, and maybe she's just interested in trying out new tactics for her next marriage, whenever that may be.

But just be careful, girl.

[MargeGunderson]

My favorite part was "this quote didn't come from a Duggar woman's social media page." I love when my two hate-watch shows converge. 

Favorite part of the quote - "when you vow to be one with a man." Leah, honey, that's the part you seem to have trouble with. 

[Tatum]

51 minutes ago, druzy said:

Sorry if this was already posted!

Leah Messer: I'd Put My Husband Ahead of My Kids (If I Had One)!

Oh boy. I think her fans will forgive a lot, but probably not this.

 

OK, the words "Christian Life Coach" doesn't inspire a ton of leniency from me, but I am willing to entertain the fact that perhaps Leah misunderstood the reasoning behind this message. I have heard a variation of this before, and it's not, "ladies, your man is your #1 priority".  It is "Parents (meaning both sexes)- your partner should be your #1 priority". No, that doesn't mean that kids sit hungry in shitty diapers while Mom and Dad moon over each other. It doesn't mean the kids' basic and developmental needs are ignored in any way. It does mean that both parents take time to appreciate and listen to each other, even if it means the kids' requests (requests- not needs) go on backburner. So say, little Susie wants mommy to play with her, and Dad wants to talk to mom about his day. Mom would tell Susie to wait, or play with her brother, or play alone, while she gives Dad her attention. Not all the time, but constantly putting your kids first (for general convenience, NOT BASIC NEEDS) is bad for both your sanity and your adult relationships, plus it teaches kids to be very self centered and entitled. Kids should learn that they aren't the center of the world, and they should be able to see the adults in their lives valuing each other and giving each other time and attention. I am hoping that's what the life coach meant, but it could very well be some sexist, fundamentalist bullshit, that Leah will happily grasp on to as it gives her validation for all the times she put a man before her kids.