Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

[MarkHB]

Between EW and now Fortune, I am not entirely convinced that Time Inc. is completely separated from TimeWarner.  At the very least, they kept some sympathetic contacts in the marketing dept.

[Rick Kitchen]

But apparently Eisenberg isn't playing Lex Luthor, son of Lionel Luthor, but Alexander Luthor, Jr.

[Trini]

He's playing Lex Luthor. I don't think his father also being named Alexander makes him not Lex Luthor. (And wasn't Lionel invented for the TV show, anyway?)

Edited October 6, 2015 by Trini

[Rick Kitchen]

Well, the original father was name Jules.

[greenbean]

The movie doesn't come out for months, but Lex Luthor is now on Twitter, and Fortune has an article about him.  :-D

 

Even in the avatar, you can still see the dry lifeless horse hair of his wig. I have a feeling it will be a big distraction in the movie.

[MarkHB]

Personally, I am not worried about the name.  His father may be Jules, or Lionel, or Lex Sr.  I think the "Lex Sr." thing is just a way to help it make sense for this young guy to be running a tech / heavy industrial / defense contractor company, and to the extent that it matters this Lex is the only "true" Lex in the DCEU.

 

Besides, technically, when the first holder of the name dies stuff like "Jr." and dynastic numbers drop off, so with his father dead is name is Alexander Luthor, Lex for short.  :) 

[MarkHB]

Those of you going to New York Comic Con this weekend should be happy!  From the official NYCC About page:

 

Is There Wifi In The Javits?

 

Yes. Free WiFi throughout the Javits Center will be provided by LexCorp Industries.

 

LexCorp unites humanity through technology. We believe in technology as a means of communication, unification and a source of inspiration. To access the WiFi on-site at the Javits Center, connect to the "LexCorp" network from the list of available networks.

 

You will automatically be redirected to the LexCorp WiFi login page where you can enter your email address and click "CONNECT" to gain access to the network. LexCorp – together, we can build a better world.

 

From Batman News.

[Rick Kitchen]

I wouldn't trust LexCorp not to steal my information while logged in to their WiFi.

[MarkHB]

 

http://www.lexcorp.io

 

Also: this Twitter appears to be a bit of viral marketing that's been around for a year now. No idea if they're sticking with the "Levan is missing" story that let up to SDCC.

 

One more: New Era exclusives at NYCC:

 

[MarkHB]

DC All Access talks to costume designer Michael Wilkinson (some cool concept art for the hero costumes included):

 

[lion10]

I love Diana's cape, it looks so regal with the interlocking quilts.  Kind of reminds me of Thor's armor with it looking like cloth and armor at the same time.  It's a nice touch that Superman's costume has Kryptonian script.  I didn't realize how huge Batman was going to be for this movie.

 

Does anyone know if the rumor that Doomsday will be in the movie is true?

[MarkHB]

It seems that the LexCorp site was collecting email addresses yesterday, to sign up for info about Lex/OS. It has stopped doing so, though.

Also, someone who worked for one of the VFX labs Instagrammed that they had wrapped it, and in the comments said that

Doomsday is not in the film

. The account has since been deleted.

[Bruinsfan]

Finally, a bit of leaked info that increases my desire to see the movie rather than the reverse!

[lion10]

Yeah, such a huge villain one movie in might be a bit much.

[MarkHB]

There will be a new preview during this week's Gotham:

https://youtu.be/6XdxTiX-vRU

[Trini]

Usually these types of "previews" on TV are just the trailer, so I'm skeptical if there will be any new footage shown. But maybe some behind-the-scenes stuff?

On the other hand, with the CA: Civil War trailer out, and the new Star Wars TPTB may want to make sure no one forgets about this movie.

On the other other hand, is 4 months too soon to start ramping up promotion, especially during the crowded holiday season?

[Trini]

Oh man, are they going to be angry the entire film?

 

[BatmanBeatles]

I bet Captain America Civil War will have more laughs.

[Jazzy24]

Why are they bowing to Superman? And why is he okay with that?

And what's up with the coat over Batman's suit?

[MarkHB]

Oh man, are they going to be angry the entire film?

 

I think eventually Diana will wrap her lasso around them and make them be nice so the three of them can defeat whatever it is they really need to beat up.

[BatmanBeatles]

 

Why are they bowing to Superman? And why is he okay with that?

I really hope that is a fantasy sequence.

 

 

And what's up with the coat over Batman's suit?

It makes me think of the 80's Ninja Turtles cartoon.

[millennium]

Why are they bowing to Superman? And why is he okay with that?

And what's up with the coat over Batman's suit?

 

I'm guessing he was in a makeshift disguise, trying to pass as a soldier or whatever.

 

I wouldn't mind at all if Batman killed the Henry Cavill Superman.

[lion10]

Relax ya'll it's almost certainly a dream sequence where Batman dreams what a world with an out of control Superman would be like.  I liked the sneak peek.  That shot of Superman landing in the sand was awesome and the aesthetics of the cape look fantastic.  Looking forward to the full trailer on Wednesday.  Man Jimmy Kimmel is pretty lucky all these superhero franchises want to put on promos during his show. 

The costume Batman is in during the clip is labeled as his "knightmare batman" outfit.

 

Edited December 1, 2015 by lion10

[Joimiaroxeu]

I wouldn't mind at all if Batman killed the Henry Cavill Superman.

Me either. I think it's bad enough that Batman is going to be played by that no-acting pretty boy. But for Batman to be reduced to being made Superman's b*tch? Nope, the only way that all will work for me is if this Superman ends up having a fatal date with a few tons of Kryptonite. Bonus points if it happens courtesy of this Batman and then Batman gets blown to smithereens.

[lion10]

I don't get the hate for this incarnation of Superman. He saved 7 billion people by killing the last of his species and it was Zod that caused the vast majority of the damage during the Metropolis battle.

[Bruinsfan]

But he's not all kewllll being grimdark and dressing in black and talking in Patricia Neal's voice while beating up thugs. Clearly those things mean Batman should win a conflict with someone who can shrug off anti-tank artillery and fly around the entire planet in moments.

 

I have plenty of problems with the Man of Steel movie and Snyder's approach to the franchise in general, but Henry Cavill's portrayal of Superman was the best I've seen since Christopher Reeve and Richard Donner collaborated.

[JessePinkman]

The batmask's permanent furrowed brow is...hilarious. That's all I got.

[lion10]

I do want to see a few jokes and smiles in the movie and the trailers though!  Let Superman have a few lines!

[lion10]

Clearly those things mean Batman should win a conflict with someone who can shrug off anti-tank artillery and fly around the entire planet in moments.

 

Well Batman's robosuit is supposed to be powered amor lined with Kryptonite which would give Batman a fair chance of beating Clark.

[questionfear]

I just want to know why Superman looks so constipated. Is he mad that Batman hid the Pepto-Bismol away from the Justice League bathroom?

[tennisgurl]

 

I have plenty of problems with the Man of Steel movie and Snyder's approach to the franchise in general, but Henry Cavill's portrayal of Superman was the best I've seen since Christopher Reeve and Richard Donner collaborated.

I totally agree. I have a TON of issues with Man of Steel, and the tone of the DCU in general (I know its early in its inception, but holy crap, lighten UP! Its a Superman movie! If the MCU can have Daredevil coexisting with Howard the Duck, you can vary with tones a little bit too) but I think Henry Cavill is a great Superman, who did as much as he could with what he was given. I was legitimately excited to hear they were doing more movies with him, because I wanted to see what he could do in a non-origin story, where he could show Clark/Supermans personality more. But now, it just looks like we are getting more DARKNESS! NO PARENTS! MY DAD WAS POINTLESSLY SUCKED INTO A TWISTER!

 

Maybe next movie? 

Edited December 1, 2015 by tennisgurl

[BatmanBeatles]

 

DARKNESS! NO PARENTS! MY DAD WAS POINTLESSLY SUCKED INTO A TWISTER!

Best line of the day.

[Joe]

Superman storms in, rips off Batman's mask. Superman: Wait, Bruce Wayne? Damnit! I owe Lois fifty bucks now. Uh, sorry about the chains. Say, I have a pot of coffee brewing upstairs. Name's Clark Kent, by the way.

Batman: Yeah, I could do with cup of coffee. But what's with the bowing guys?

Superman: I don't know, but every time I try and stop them, they get really depressed. Easier to let them continue, I suppose.

[Kromm]

Wow my eyes were rolling at that clip so hard I got a Super-headache.

 

If that's some kind of fantasy sequence it's still...stupid. I mean what would it even SAY about Batfleck if this is what he has nightmares about. Having his mask pulled off rather than having his spine pulled out of his body?  Riiiiiight.

But apparently Eisenberg isn't playing Lex Luthor, son of Lionel Luthor, but Alexander Luthor, Jr.

I wonder why it's really supposed to matter?  Lex Luthor is Lex Luthor, no matter which backstory is used.

[Bruinsfan]

Yeah, unless they introduce the parallel earths concept and reveal that he's actually Alexander Luthor from Earth-3, I don't see his father's given name is being a major concern. Evil tycoon named Luthor who becomes Superman's nemesis is the core of the character.

[MarkHB]

SPOILER WARNING: This trailer shows the true villain of the film.  Having said that...

 

 

 

 

[lion10]

The editing on this trailer is a little off to me but it's good to see some humor finally.  I'm still not sure on Jesse's portrayal of Lex though.   I like it on some ways and don't at other times.  It's very millennial Silicon Valley-ish for lack of a better word.  I'm glad Superman has lines but I feel like they gave away too much of the plot with Doomsday being there and us seeing the outcome of Batman v Superman.

 

Edit:  It's so great that we can see the Avengers and the Justice League with great actors on the big screen.  Never been a better time to be a fan of comics.

Edited December 3, 2015 by lion10

[Kromm]

Annoying way to introduce Wonder Woman. I'm already seething at how shallow and dumb it seems.

 

I think we knew Luthor was the big bad, unless you mean the ehem... person... Wonder Woman shoots at (and since when does she SHOOT anything?). That villain's identity I think we still have to guess at (based on Superman mythos) because the appearance has clearly been tweaked.

 

EDIT - Okay, never mind pussyfooting around the name since lion10 said it. It seems like it's SUPPOSED to be Doomsday, in this scenario clearly genetically engineered by Luthor, but they kind of made him look like a walking pile of poo (and already reveal that he's hardly gonna kill Superman).

Edited December 3, 2015 by Kromm

[Trini]

Well, I thought they would have waited a little longer to release that. I was fine with keeping the 'real' villain a mystery. Thanks for the warning MarkHB.

[scarynikki12]

For a second I though that was Clayface and was confused because I can't imagine him ever being the Big Bad of any DC movie (much less one that has Bats, Supes, and Wonder Woman).  A helper, sure, but not THE Baddie. 

[VCRTracking]

Wonder Woman looks GOOD.

[BatmanBeatles]

 

I'm still not sure on Jesse's portrayal of Lex though.

He seemed high in some scenes.

[Kromm]

For a second I though that was Clayface and was confused because I can't imagine him ever being the Big Bad of any DC movie (much less one that has Bats, Supes, and Wonder Woman).  A helper, sure, but not THE Baddie. 

Even the character that ACTUALLY is isn't the big baddie. When you have a character who's a genetic creation of another character and sent out as a weapon, I don't think he/it counts as the big baddie. He's the big FIGHT of the movie, sure, but that's different.

[Spartan Girl]

Yes to Wonder Woman but a big fat HELL NO to Eisenberg's Lex.

[SeanC]

Wonder Woman looks cool.

 

The Superman vs. Batman stuff looks dreary, thus far.

[Demented Daisy]

Love it.  Cannot wait.

 

Annoying way to introduce Wonder Woman. I'm already seething at how shallow and dumb it seems.

 

I think we knew Luthor was the big bad, unless you mean the ehem... person... Wonder Woman shoots at (and since when does she SHOOT anything?). 

 

 

I'm confused.  When did Wonder Woman shoot anything?  

[raezen]

So far, Jesse's Lex reminds me a lot of the Joker. A pre-Ledger Joker but still.

Edited because Jesse Eisenberg is not playing a car.

Edited December 3, 2015 by raezen

[tennisgurl]

Honestly, Jessie Isenburg was more intimidating as Mark Zuckerburg than as Lex Luther. 

 

I will say, I am more excited for this movie after seeing the trailer. Wonder Woman looks awesome, albeit kind of randomly placed. It was still really cool to see the shot of WW Batman and Superman all standing together. 

[millennium]

re: Eisenberg's Luthor.    I don't think I've liked a character as much since Jar Jar Binks.

[MarkHB]

Don't judge Lex based on that scene with Clark and Bruce (and I love that Bruce looks like he really doesn't want to touch him when he goes to shake hands).  That's not the real Lex; no one ever gets to see the real Lex.  That's his BS facade for public consumption.