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19 minutes ago, Lm2162 said:

Wait, does she know this is ridiculous? Does she think it's good? Does David tell her it's good?!?!?!

I am speechless right now.

And this was her original "Debz OG" single. I'm sorry if we already discussed this when I wasn't around, but this is a revelation to me. Holy. Shit. The lyrics!

THIS IS BEYOND RIDICULOUS AND EMBARRASSING AT THE VERY LEAST!! WTF!!!!!!!! I SEE WHY FARRAH IS THE ? SHE IS!!????????????

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5 hours ago, Lm2162 said:

Wait, does she know this is ridiculous? Does she think it's good? Does David tell her it's good?!?!?!

I am speechless right now.

And this was her original "Debz OG" single. I'm sorry if we already discussed this when I wasn't around, but this is a revelation to me. Holy. Shit. The lyrics!

Okay, for the newest "song" why is the featured singer on 90% of the track while the main "singer" is just "rapping" the chorus? Aren't the featured singers only suppose to contribute to a track but not be the sole contributor? Lol. Deb was only singing the chorus. 

Why am I even giving this "track" attention??? *turns on her Michael Jackson CDs to hear real music to drown out the awful song stuck in her head*

 

ETA: I had no idea debs lack of involvement on the track had already been discussed. I need to read prior replies before responding. Sorry.

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On 7/6/2017 at 2:16 PM, mamadrama said:

What.The.Actual.Fuck.

I heard the original when it first "dropped" but it never gets old. Is Debz OG trolling us? I hope to GOD she's not proud of this shit. What the hell happened to her? In the early episodes, she was still nuts but in a kind of controlling, conservative business woman way. Now she's legit bonkers. 

This is why I've always had a soft spot for Farrah, I remembered Deb in the very early episodes and in Farrah's original 16&Pregnant episode. She put Farrah through hell and I always get the sense that, now that her daughter's got some money and can't be controlled anymore, suddenly Deb so nice to her and wants to just pretend like the past didn't happen and I think that infuriates Farrah. And, if I'm right, I get it. 

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59 minutes ago, SheTalksShit said:

This is why I've always had a soft spot for Farrah, I remembered Deb in the very early episodes and in Farrah's original 16&Pregnant episode. She put Farrah through hell and I always get the sense that, now that her daughter's got some money and can't be controlled anymore, suddenly Deb so nice to her and wants to just pretend like the past didn't happen and I think that infuriates Farrah. And, if I'm right, I get it. 

I have a soft spot for her as well. Farrah's ugly attitude is all out in the open, for one thing. What we see is pretty much what we get. (Although I suspect she is also playing things up for the camera.) The other girls hide shit and pretend to be something they're not. And yes, I feel for her in regards to Debz OG. Those early episodes with her was very VC Andrews' "My Sweet Audrina."

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It's really too bad that Dr, Creepy didn't continue to ignore Farrah the entire time in Key West.  It's my understanding that the one thing Narcissists hate the most is to be ignored.  You could tell it was driving her right up the wall.  Unfortunately, he eventually took the bait and brought himself down to her level when he cussed at her and flipped her off.  Mission Accomplished for Farrah -- he was finally paying attention to her.  

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On 7/8/2017 at 10:56 PM, SheTalksShit said:

This is why I've always had a soft spot for Farrah, I remembered Deb in the very early episodes and in Farrah's original 16&Pregnant episode. She put Farrah through hell and I always get the sense that, now that her daughter's got some money and can't be controlled anymore, suddenly Deb so nice to her and wants to just pretend like the past didn't happen and I think that infuriates Farrah. And, if I'm right, I get it. 

I absolutely believe Debra is a psychological abuser (if not physical as well). She comes across like every narcissistic abuser I've ever known and I think she did a number on Farrah and Michael as well (who himself admits that Debra caused Farrah trauma). In the preview for the reunion, she's being asked about if she was abusive. She replies with "we've all been through something" and "Farrah grew up in a million dollar house." Classic abuser deflecting tactics, much like the fake suicide threats; if I was accused of abuse I didn't commit, my responses certainly wouldn't be about money, houses, or how much we've all been through, they'd be about my own innocence. Now that she wants money and Farrah can't be controlled (as you say), she wants to be buddy-buddy. Before anyone says this-- no, of course this doesn't excuse Farrah's current rude and obnoxious behavior. But in specifically her relationship with her mom, I think there's a lot of abusive backstory that informs the current resentment.

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2 hours ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

It's really too bad that Dr, Creepy didn't continue to ignore Farrah the entire time in Key West.  It's my understanding that the one thing Narcissists hate the most is to be ignored.  You could tell it was driving her right up the wall.  Unfortunately, he eventually took the bait and brought himself down to her level when he cussed at her and flipped her off.  Mission Accomplished for Farrah -- he was finally paying attention to her.  

This was one of the times I was on Farrah's side.  Dr Creepy was on a trip that was certainly paid for by Farrah or MTV.  What you cant do is have someone sponsor you and then give them your ass to kiss.  He was being a total asshole ignoring Farrah and his beloved Deborah.  I would have been going batshit too if I paid for your vacation and you thanked me by giving me your back the entire time.

He had every bit of that tongue lashing coming.

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6 minutes ago, Brooklynista said:

This was one of the times I was on Farrah's side.  Dr Creepy was on a trip that was certainly paid for by Farrah or MTV.  What you cant do is have someone sponsor you and then give them your ass to kiss.  He was being a total asshole ignoring Farrah and his beloved Deborah.  I would have been going batshit too if I paid for your vacation and you thanked me by giving me your back the entire time.

He had every bit of that tongue lashing coming.

I agree he was a total dick.  But I couldn't help but enjoy seeing someone NOT kissing Farrah's ass for a change.

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13 minutes ago, Brooklynista said:

This was one of the times I was on Farrah's side.  Dr Creepy was on a trip that was certainly paid for by Farrah or MTV.  What you cant do is have someone sponsor you and then give them your ass to kiss.  He was being a total asshole ignoring Farrah and his beloved Deborah.  I would have been going batshit too if I paid for your vacation and you thanked me by giving me your back the entire time.

He had every bit of that tongue lashing coming.

I'm with you on this as well. If you go on a trip with people, don't be a fucking asshole. Just like when Farrah was being an asshole to her ex-Daniel's family when she visited him in Austin. 

David was being a major asshole by not participating in that trip at all and ignoring not only Farrah, but Deb as well. He knew what he was doing by purposely ignoring Farrah.

David has always had an agenda up his sleeve as far as Farrah is concerned. After all, he was the one who contacted Farrah first for ulterior reasons. He then practically gropes her upon their first meeting and attacks her personally while at dinner. 

Is he not kissing her ass out of spite for her not bowing down to him? 

I swear, all these nutjobs (Cate, Amber, Maci, David) make it so easy to defend Farrah and they make her look so good compared to how they behave and judge. 

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I would say Debz new man fits right on in with this cluster fuck clan, may be alone in this, but I find it hard to feel sorry for Farrah. She's disrespectful towards dam near everyone, not sure if I've said it, but this show can go as well. They glorify constant B.S. and the "doctors" are ass kissing enablers. Unfortunately these are the times we live in, if it's negative, ridiculous and sends the wrong message it's all the rave. Pretty sad and pathetic!! 

 

Just my 2 cents.

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So, I'm watching Farrah on the finale special with Dr. Drew. What really infuriates me is that EVERYONE around her ALLOWS her to treat them like shit. The way she spoke to Dr. Drew alone makes me mad, they pussy foot around her instead of really trying to help her and telling her what she needs to hear. SHE NEEDS SOME SERIOUS HELP AND IS IN FOR A RUDE AWAKENING. This family doesn't need anymore camera time!!!! 

Teen Mom is a fucking train wreck, now we have Ryan CLEARLY on something/been on something while his family is turning a blind eye and he's being filmed driving. Come on!!! This show has become a joke and it's not funny at all.

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1 hour ago, Yolo said:

So, I'm watching Farrah on the finale special with Dr. Drew. What really infuriates me is that EVERYONE around her ALLOWS her to treat them like shit. The way she spoke to Dr. Drew alone makes me mad, they pussy foot around her instead of really trying to help her and telling her what she needs to hear. SHE NEEDS SOME SERIOUS HELP AND IS IN FOR A RUDE AWAKENING. This family doesn't need anymore camera time!!!! 

Teen Mom is a fucking train wreck, now we have Ryan CLEARLY on something/been on something while his family is turning a blind and he's being filmed driving. Come on!!! This show has become a joke and it's not funny at all.

I was highly entertained by Farrah's antics with Dr Sad Panda and kind of rooting her on. 

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Again, they all allude to this traumatic upbringing Farrah suffered but no one comes right out and says what it is.  Michael left and cheated on Debra.  Got it!  Debra brought in a succession of men.  Got it!  Farrah's baby daddy died.  Got it!  But what the hell else happened that it's called the most horrific thing ever seen?  Was she forced into child porn?  Or was she a child soldier?  Was she forced to live alone at age 6 or something?  I appreciate the fact that they don't want to discuss it, but at this point it's probably worse not to come right out and say what it is.  

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19 minutes ago, WhoaWhoKnew said:

The amount of pure hate Farrah has for her parents combined with the porn, stripping, and secrecy has always led me to believe that Farrah was sexually abused and her parents knew, but did nothing about it.

Her parents have always creeped me out honestly.

That plus Michael's continued relationship with her has always made me think the same. He does not admit to abusing her physically but has said Debra did. He has also confirmed that she has been raped more than once (once by James Deen, who has been accused of rape by many women actually, and other times by other men/another man). Mostly though, the guilt he seems to feel and the fact that everyone in their family is so shady and evasive about the "dark times" they went through have always made me think that she was molested and Debra blamed her for it due to her "Christianity" or they didn't report it when they were supposed to. No proof of that of course, and we'll never know. Based on the way they all talk about her childhood, with Michael and Farrah getting closed off and teary and Debra aggressively deflecting, that's what I happen to believe. 

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6 hours ago, Lm2162 said:

Both of her daughters hate David...she should probably eventually get a clue that he doesn't "cherish" her. 

I found it interesting that Farrah said when Deb was having her little breakdown on their trip, David wasn't paying her a bit of attention and was instead talking to producers. Sounds a lot like a certain Mr. Baier. 

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11 hours ago, LilaFowler said:

Farrah's behavior with Dr. Drew was so defensive, snotty and odd. 

So has every girl on this show who has ever talked to Dr. Drew, except Chelsea. I clearly recall Kail and her raging defensive bitch attitude to Dr. Drew. She walked out on him a few times. She avoided answering questions and was being just as snotty. 

Dr. Drew is a joke. He is there for his paycheck like the rest of them. 

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I'll be the first to admit Im not a fan of Farrah. Never have been.  The porn thing has never really bothered me that much as the way I see it as thats her choice and she is the one who will have it on her record so to speak. Hell I will even give her a smidge of credit for at least being a tad more real about the kind of person she is compared to the others.

I know there has been a lot of discussion about the way things were for her when she grew up. I could be mistaken but everytime I watch a segement about her and her family, the words Dysfunction Junction come to mind. Having grown up in such a home myself, that kind of thing never really leaves you, no matter how old you get. That said, no matter what her home life was and is now, to me its still no excuse for how she treats people now.  Not just her family but the TM crew as well. A bad childhood in my book doesnt give someone a license to be an ass to others all the time.

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3 hours ago, Mr. Minor said:

Farrah is a raging bitch! That is why on a few occasions other women have felt the need to physically harm her,  someday someone is going to succeed.

Well, maybe for the other women who attacked her that's true. Amber physically attacked her because that's what she does, and because Farrah insulted her precious Matt. 

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2 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Having a mother who would post video of her daughter going off on her on Instagram must really help the relationship. it was posted this morning, I don't get Debra's reasoning behind doing that. 

https://mobile.twitter.com/ddanielsen/status/885183840192528384?p=v

Maybe she's gunning for her own reality show? 

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On 7/6/2017 at 7:36 AM, saratothej said:

How the hell is Deb a "suga momma"? She has the old part right, but other than that? She doesn't date younger men and is presumably not exactly rich since she's had to borrow cash from Farrah. 

Well, there's that "million and a half dollar" house in Beverly Hills Council Bluffs.  And the leased Mercedes (I forget what she said it was worth when someone bumped it in a parking lot).

15 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Having a mother who would post video of her daughter going off on her on Instagram must really help the relationship. it was posted this morning, I don't get Debra's reasoning behind doing that. 

https://mobile.twitter.com/ddanielsen/status/885183840192528384?p=v

She's hoping for some sympathy casseroles Ala Vicki Gunvalson.

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3 hours ago, Mr. Minor said:

Farrah is a raging bitch! That is why on a few occasions other women have felt the need to physically harm her,  someday someone is going to succeed.

The only person who felt the need to attack her physically and actually almost succeeded, is someone who has gone to prison because she is an abuser. She has committed domestic violence. Amber attacked Farrah because someone was demanding that he be defended at all costs and Amber was being told to not allow him to be made a fool of or to be embarrassed on television. Matt was furious he was called a pedophile. It was Simon who said it. From what I recall, that was the trigger for Amber. But she went after Farrah, not Simon. And if it bothered Matt so much to be called a pedophile, which I think was said because of Matt being alone with Leah, not due to Matt and Amber's age difference, maybe Matt should have handled that situation rather than send out Amber to do his dirty work.  

Farrah doesn't deserve to be assaulted from a whack job abuser who has no control of her anger and who has countless triggers just like Amber doesn't deserve to be physically assaulted by Matt no matter how much of a raging bitch she is. 

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