Amber: A Rill Woman Goes to Gel

[LunaMia]

On 5/27/2017 at 2:26 PM, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

As someone who was a victim of sexual harassment, I understand why Kerthy isn't making a big deal out of this. Obviously what Matt said was on tape. What happened to me was similarly documented. Many people (particularly older white men in positions of power within the institution) were more pissed that I reported it than that it happened. It definitely changed the way they treated me. I was seen as a traitor to the department and it made ME uncomfortable. I came to find out I was not the only victim and that basically everyone in positions of power knew that the harasser did this often but I dared to be the first person to report it. Some of the other women in the department stood up for me (but not all; some also viewed me as a nuisance) and other victims came forward, but by and large we were treated like troublemakers and nuisances who should have just shrugged it off like others had done for decades. 

Kerthy might think that if she gets a reputation as someone who has filed a sexual harassment charge (even when it was obviously warranted) that production companies may not want to hire her after TM ends. She could be seen as someone who won't just shrug it off, take one for the team, makes too big of a deal out of it, etc. That's why I think Kerthy just banked that conversation and made sure it got on the air for all to see. She didn't have to report it or make a big deal out of it. The public can cry out about it and she doesn't look like the troublemaker.

(Unfortunately, though, many people won't see it as the sexual harassment it is and will think he's saying things people say al the time, women shouldn't be so sensitive, say he didn't really mean it, etc and they'll defend it....because our society by and large doesn't like women. There. I said it. Had Matt made a racist or xenophobic comment, there would probably be some outcry, at least...although since the last election we have definitely entered a twilight zone where anti-PC rhetoric is mainstream).

Also, it's entirely possible Kerthy did lodge a complaint, HR "dealt" with it, and now both sides have to keep quiet about it. That was what happened when I made my complaint (with recorded evidence). The harasser was told never to talk to or contact me again (basically ignore each other and get reassigned) and we were both told not to discuss it with anyone who we hadn't told HR didn't already knew. That might have happened here. 

Sorry for the length of this post.

Good points all around. I may have been insensitive upthread mentioning that the producer should get a backbone and not let Matt speak to her like that. I was completely thinking about it as her being a producer, and they all seem to tip toe and kiss the asses of these assholes. 

I do see your perspective that she was probably emabarassed and didn't want to draw more attention to it at the time. Nobody should go to work feeling uncomfortable and belittled. Hopefully there was some recourse for his actions. 

[GreatKazu]

31 minutes ago, LunaMia said:

Good points all around. I may have been insensitive upthread mentioning that the producer should get a backbone and not let Matt speak to her like that. I was completely thinking about it as her being a producer, and they all seem to tip toe and kiss the asses of these assholes. 

I do see your perspective that she was probably emabarassed and didn't want to draw more attention to it at the time. Nobody should go to work feeling uncomfortable and belittled. Hopefully there was some recourse for his actions. 

I didn't see your comment as insensitive. I agree. The constant tip-toeing around these people on this shit show is preposterous. The way the producer assured Matt that Amber did want to marry him, was sickening. I suppose that explains why she said nothing to Matt. She obviously didn't see anything wrong with how Matt treated Amber therefore, what he said to her was not anything to bat an eyelash at. 

I too have been a victim of sexual harassment. I had to endure the "Why did you report him?" bullshit that tends to happen to many victims. I too wished the producer had just ripped into Matt right then and there. Get into his face, tell him off while screaming for someone to get that fucker out of her face. Females tend to be victimized from an early age and it continues until the day we die. I lost count on how many times I have been talked to in a sexual way, having had guys yell at me from a distance about what they want to do to me, the looks, the cat-calls, having someone touch you inappropriately, being grabbed while in a public place or somewhere where you least expect it, drunken males rubbing up on me, males acting superior, being kissed on my face or my mouth against my will, guys talking about my big boobs as if I am invisible, the list goes on and on. 

I suppose as we sit on our couch and we watch a female being victimized, we hope she will say something and do something so her perpetrator won't get away with it because we know he has done it many times before. It is no different as we sit and watch Amber and wish she would just kick Matt's ass to the curb. Females have been taught pretty much to not speak up, don't fight it. Let it go. It is one reason why assholes like Matt continue with their behavior. Matt is beyond an asshole. He is corrupt, unscrupulous, scandalous, and repulsive. 

[AmyFarrahFowler]

13 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

I wish there was a cure for whatever jumbles Farrah's brain in one on one conversations. I would love it if she read Cate for filth for routinely using a crackhead as her goto babysitter.

I have a new fascination with Farrah's segments as I don't usually watch them. Her mispronunciation of words are just getting hilarious, as though she had never said or heard of the word before she says them. Last night was HypKNOW tist instead of hypnotist. She was talking to Deb at their staged lunch. I love when little miss know it all shows her ass! But yes, she's still got more of my respect than Huey, Dewey Louie and Tyler.

[Mr. Miner]

It would be so cool if Farrah and Michael have been secretly working out and taking lessons from some MMA badass. And when Amber and Matt attack them at the reunion. Farrah and Michael calmly stand up and beat the living shit out of these two shitbags.

[Tatum]

18 hours ago, ginger90 said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattbEPT/status/869331563850420226/photo/1

OK, I stepped away from the forums and now I have no idea what's going on in the Amber thread- I've been able to piece together that there is solid evidence of Matt trying to cheat on Amber, but he also got Heather the producer fired and sexually harassed another producer? Did I read that right?

Is the quoted picture above recent? If so, Maci and Catelynn and Tyler are the most hypocritical, brainless little bitches that ever existed for continuing to hang with Matt while constantly lambasting the trashiness of Farrah and Simon.

[LunaMia]

1 hour ago, GreatKazu said:

I didn't see your comment as insensitive. I agree. The constant tip-toeing around these people on this shit show is preposterous. The way the producer assured Matt that Amber did want to marry him, was sickening. I suppose that explains why she said nothing to Matt. She obviously didn't see anything wrong with how Matt treated Amber therefore, what he said to her was not anything to bat an eyelash at. 

I too have been a victim of sexual harassment. I had to endure the "Why did you report him?" bullshit that tends to happen to many victims. I too wished the producer had just ripped into Matt right then and there. Get into his face, tell him off while screaming for someone to get that fucker out of her face. Females tend to be victimized from an early age and it continues until the day we die. I lost count on how many times I have been talked to in a sexual way, having had guys yell at me from a distance about what they want to do to me, the looks, the cat-calls, having someone touch you inappropriately, being grabbed while in a public place or somewhere where you least expect it, drunken males rubbing up on me, males acting superior, being kissed on my face or my mouth against my will, guys talking about my big boobs as if I am invisible, the list goes on and on. 

I suppose as we sit on our couch and we watch a female being victimized, we hope she will say something and do something so her perpetrator won't get away with it because we know he has done it many times before. It is no different as we sit and watch Amber and wish she would just kick Matt's ass to the curb. Females have been taught pretty much to not speak up, don't fight it. Let it go. It is one reason why assholes like Matt continue with their behavior. Matt is beyond an asshole. He is corrupt, unscrupulous, scandalous, and repulsive. 

Thanks GreatKazu, and good points like always. It's always hard because I don't want to offend anyone, yet these people are so annoying that it's hard to feel sympathy for any of them. The producers are way too involved with these assholes on a personal level, that all common sense goes out the window.

One thing that really bothers me is the idea that Amber is some kind of victim of being drugged, brainwashed, or abused. Why can't it be that she's just an asshole that wants to make excuses for and be with another asshole!? I'm sure if the genders were reversed, nobody would think the man was being brainwashed, drugged, or otherwise. Amber always claims to be a victim, whether it's beating on Gary, or doing drugs. She will always make shitty life choices and blame the universe when it goes awry.

[Tatum]

Just now, LunaMia said:

 

One thing that really bothers me is the idea that Amber is some kind of victim of being drugged, brainwashed, or abused. Why can't it be that she's just an asshole that wants to make excuses for and be with another asshole!? I'm sure if the genders were reversed, nobody would think the man was being brainwashed, drugged, or otherwise. Amber always claims to be a victim, whether it's beating on Gary, or doing drugs. She will always make shitty life choices and blame the universe when it goes awry.

I agree! She made her fucking bed. She may not have impregnated 8 women, possibly raped another, and conned someone out of their money, but she has neglected her child, not paid child support, not paid landlords, not paid other creditors, left her rented space in shambles, neglected pets, manipulated Leah to hurt Gary, publicly trashed the father of her child, chosen her boyfriend time and time again over her daughter- who says she deserves any better than someone like Matt? I don't, and I won't feel sorry for her when he leaves her high and dry.

[LunaMia]

1 minute ago, Tatum said:

I agree! She made her fucking bed. She may not have impregnated 8 women, possibly raped another, and conned someone out of their money, but she has neglected her child, not paid child support, not paid landlords, not paid other creditors, left her rented space in shambles, neglected pets, manipulated Leah to hurt Gary, publicly trashed the father of her child, chosen her boyfriend time and time again over her daughter- who says she deserves any better than someone like Matt? I don't, and I won't feel sorry for her when he leaves her high and dry.

Spot on! That is exactly how I feel. Even if she didn't do those things herself, she is willingly with a man who has done those things. Worse yet, she allows her child around this scum, many times alone. Not sorry to say I will feel a bit of Schadenfreude when he leaves her high and dry. 

[Mr. Miner]

She can go live with her beloved Bubby.

[toodywoody]

I agree Tatum. I stopped watching because of her shit holeness.

[Tatum]

2 minutes ago, toodywoody said:

I agree Tatum. I stopped watching because of her shit holeness.

She's reached Jenelle levels of worthlessness to me. There is absolutely nothing nice I can say about her. Cate is not far behind.

[GreatKazu]

18 minutes ago, LunaMia said:

Thanks GreatKazu, and good points like always. It's always hard because I don't want to offend anyone, yet these people are so annoying that it's hard to feel sympathy for any of them. The producers are way too involved with these assholes on a personal level, that all common sense goes out the window.

One thing that really bothers me is the idea that Amber is some kind of victim of being drugged, brainwashed, or abused. Why can't it be that she's just an asshole that wants to make excuses for and be with another asshole!? I'm sure if the genders were reversed, nobody would think the man was being brainwashed, drugged, or otherwise. Amber always claims to be a victim, whether it's beating on Gary, or doing drugs. She will always make shitty life choices and blame the universe when it goes awry.

Agree again. I have mentioned previously my lack of sympathy for Amber for all the reasons you mentioned and @Tatum has pointed out. Amber has shown to be a pretty damn aggressive bitch to Gary, Farrah, and we know of her fights outside of the show including fights she engaged in at Walmart. She is right up there with Jenelle. Amber plays the victim card when it is convenient. I also abhor Matt for his behavior towards all the people he has affected, mostly the children he has abandoned. But when Amber sits right there next to him to defend him time and time again, and who pleads for his dick in Puerto Rico (GAG!!!!), she can take her cries of victimhood and shove them up her gigantic ass. Sorry, bitch. Plenty of people have endured a shitty life like you and even more, but they don't go around making shitty life choices while being an abuser to the father of her child and stomping on stage trying to hit a fellow cast member. 

[Tatum]

4 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

she can take her cries of victimhood and shove them up her gigantic ass.

This cracked me up so hard. Amber and Kail should have a gigantic ass-off.

[ghoulina]

42 minutes ago, Tatum said:

This cracked me up so hard. Amber and Kail should have a gigantic ass-off.

So....Mother Russia vs. Matt?

[GreatKazu]

2 hours ago, Tatum said:

This cracked me up so hard. Amber and Kail should have a gigantic ass-off.

Now this is the kind of Teen Mom After Show I would definitely love to watch. 

1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

So....Mother Russia vs. Matt?

Bwahaha

[ClassyCourtHeels]

Hopefully this means they're done

But she's an attention whore so who knows

 

 

[ginger90]

Tweets like that from her make me hear the "voice" of the teacher from Charlie Brown. 

[Uncle JUICE]

Whenough has this person ever really  STRIVED for anything?does she know what that word means?

[LunaMia]

28 minutes ago, Uncle JUICE said:

Whenough has this person ever really  STRIVED for anything?does she know what that word means?

She has strived to move from her bed to her couch! And she has succeeded, I might add! 

[CofCinci]

54 minutes ago, Uncle JUICE said:

Whenough has this person ever really  STRIVED for anything?does she know what that word means?

She needs to join Janelle Brown's STRIVE program. That's if Matt left her with $9.99 in her his bank account. I bet Jeff cleared it out. That Jeff is always up to no good. 

[GreatKazu]

4 hours ago, ClassyCourtHeels said:

Hopefully this means they're done

But she's an attention whore so who knows

 

 

I see Jeff has now taken over the tweeting for Amber. That Jeff. He is a sly one. 

[ginger90]

Perhaps she signed with Vivid?

Bought a new couch?

More surgery ?

[Calicocats]

Wow...so I haven't watched this show in some time, because they are all so goddamned annoying.  But I downloaded the Vegas episode, just to see what the fuss was about.  All I can say is, she had plastic surgery?  To look better?  Am I missing something here???

[leighroda]

Amber has had too many fake outs lately, I'm starting to think she is over Matt but is ramping up the will she or won't she factor.

[Mambo Gladys]

45 minutes ago, leighroda said:

Amber has had too many fake outs lately, I'm starting to think she is over Matt but is ramping up the will she or won't she factor.

I would like to agree with you but I really don't think she's smart enough to conjure that up. 

[GreatKazu]

17 minutes ago, saratothej said:

I would like to agree with you but I really don't think she's smart enough to conjure that up. 

Which is why I pointed out it is Matt, er...I mean, Jeff who took over her Twitter. 

Matt did the whole "will we or won't we get married" on Twitter when they were in Vegas. 

Edited May 31, 2017 by GreatKazu

[CofCinci]

8 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

Matt did the whole "will we or won't we get married" on Twitter when they were in Vegas. 

And now we know that his intention was to get married.  He wanted to be able to show Amber all the social media posts from their fans encouraging them to get married. 

Edited May 31, 2017 by CofCinci

[honeydo7]

Porn-Queen Want-to-Be Amber doesn't realize when she goes to family court demanding she deserves having more time with Leah; she'll have a major melt-down, once the judge tells her : "You and Matt are both adults & if you hope to make big bucks starring in, marketing porno films & associating with other porno stars that's your choice.  However, saying Leah won't be affected in any way, during her visits to your home, by these films or your new associates, shows a complete lack of concern for her & for that reason, I must deny your petition making changes to your child custody agreement." I hope MTV cameras are on the scene to catch her fake outrage.

[ginger90]

The drama, the suspense, the bullshit....

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattbEPT/status/869975730880491520?p=v

[ginger90]

38 minutes ago, honeydo7 said:

Porn-Queen Want-to-Be Amber doesn't realize when she goes to family court demanding she deserves having more time with Leah; she'll have a major melt-down, once the judge tells her : "You and Matt are both adults & if you hope to make big bucks starring in, marketing porno films & associating with other porno stars that's your choice.  However, saying Leah won't be affected in any way, during her visits to your home, by these films or your new associates, shows a complete lack of concern for her & for that reason, I must deny your petition making changes to your child custody agreement." I hope MTV cameras are on the scene to catch her fake outrage.

I don't think the porn thing will matter as far as custody. If she goes after more time, Gary probably has kept track of the times she didn't keep to the agreement they have now. So many other things, other than porn, are out there. 

And, she hasn't made the porn yet, that we know of. Gary could get more in child support out if it though since it's an increase in income !!

[TeenMomAngerMgmt]

Amber is a child-free cautionary tale. Some folks know early on that they do not want kids. In reasonable states they get access to contraception and sex ed and are able to ensure that they don't have kids (with the ability to change their minds should circumstances change). Remember that Amber was very clear on her 16&P episode: she did NOT want children. But again, living where she did (and having chaos at home), she did not have access to abortion. So she had this child that she did not want and did many things to escape parenting her (even going to prison). Matt is just her latest attempt to get away from parenting, IMO. 

Edited May 31, 2017 by TeenMomAngerMgmt
Damn synonyms

[Tatum]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

I don't think the porn thing will matter as far as custody. If she goes after more time, Gary probably has kept track of the times she didn't keep to the agreement they have now. So many other things, other than porn, are out there. 

And, she hasn't made the porn yet, that we know of. Gary could get more in child support out if it though since it's an increase in income !!

I agree strongly with this. There are 566,322,544 reasons Amber should not have more time with Leah. A potential sex tape made with creepy Matt is not one of them. Amber's negligence of Leah, her poor decision making, her emotional abuse and manipulation of Leah, and her endangerment of Leah are all reasons enough.

[CofCinci]

Amber could be granted very generous visitation/custody -- but it is meaningless. She doesn't see the kid. She has no interest in seeing the child. If there wasn't a series, she'd barely see her daughter.  It has been proven that she only picks up the kid when MTV is filming. 

[GreatKazu]

3 hours ago, honeydo7 said:

Porn-Queen Want-to-Be Amber doesn't realize when she goes to family court demanding she deserves having more time with Leah; she'll have a major melt-down, once the judge tells her : "You and Matt are both adults & if you hope to make big bucks starring in, marketing porno films & associating with other porno stars that's your choice.  However, saying Leah won't be affected in any way, during her visits to your home, by these films or your new associates, shows a complete lack of concern for her & for that reason, I must deny your petition making changes to your child custody agreement." I hope MTV cameras are on the scene to catch her fake outrage.

Doing porn does not affect custody. Plenty of porn actors and actors have custody of their kids. A judge won't be concerned unless Leah is in a home where her needs are not being met, she is in danger, she is being neglected, or there is DV or other crimes being committed in her presence. Gary has a chance to take this to court and have his attorney note Matt admitted to having a drug relapse. True or not, he put that out there. Gary can request supervised visitation or demand Leah not be around Matt.  It remains to be seen what he will actually do. 

19 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

Amber could be granted very generous visitation/custody -- but it is meaningless. She doesn't see the kid. She has no interest in seeing the child. If there wasn't a series, she'd barely see her daughter.  It has been proven that she only picks up the kid when MTV is filming. 

This.

We know Amber doesn't want more time with Leah anyways. Leah is just that person who is there to make Amber feel worthy of being a mom even though Amber doesn't have to actually do the work of a true mother. 

3 hours ago, ginger90 said:

The drama, the suspense, the bullshit....

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattbEPT/status/869975730880491520?p=v

Someone tweeted that Matt may have videos of Amber being high. I never thought of that. My mind was thinking sex videos. 

[ginger90]

This guy is 10 years old, I swear. Hope the "surgery" is either a vasectomy,  or he's gone. And what about pain, oh how will he ever deal with the pain.....

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattbEPT/status/870008266960420864?p=v

[ClassyCourtHeels]

24 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

This guy is 10 years old, I swear. Hope the "surgery" is either a vasectomy,  or he's gone. And what about pain, oh how will he ever deal with the pain.....

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattbEPT/status/870008266960420864?p=v

Yeah. Matt conveniently scheduled a surgery during a taping ???? The same dude that's a complete fame whore????

 

Hopefully this means they're done. Matt's probably also dodging any questions too.

[ginger90]

A while ago Matt tweeted about going to a doctor and his name was House. At the time I just rolled my eyes. Now, I had to dig!! There is a Dr House in Indiana.

I'm not saying Matt's actually having surgery, but it was a stupid tweet if any of it is true, because little old me found him.

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattbEPT/status/865936988259700736?p=v

Edited May 31, 2017 by ginger90

[leighroda]

1 hour ago, GreatKazu said:

Doing porn does not affect custody. Plenty of porn actors and actors have custody of their kids. A judge won't be concerned unless Leah is in a home where her needs are not being met, she is in danger, she is being neglected, or there is DV or other crimes being committed in her presence. Gary has a chance to take this to court and have his attorney note Matt admitted to having a drug relapse. True or not, he put that out there. Gary can request supervised visitation or demand Leah not be around Matt.  It remains to be seen what he will actually do. 

This.

We know Amber doesn't want more time with Leah anyways. Leah is just that person who is there to make Amber feel worthy of being a mom even though Amber doesn't have to actually do the work of a true mother. 

Someone tweeted that Matt may have videos of Amber being high. I never thought of that. My mind was thinking sex videos. 

That's true, I hadn't really thought of that (drugs vs sex tape) I know some people have said they believe she is using again, and while I can't say I would be surprised if she were... I don't know that I really believe she has, I guess I just don't have enough evidence to prove/rule it out either way... but for Matt to have something on her that is definitely more of a possibility than I had previously believed. Surely Matt has something on her I can't imagine anyone being this dumb. 

[leighroda]

I'm not sure if this will get merged, or be a separate entry, I didn't mean to hit submit.

i just can't believe I live in a world where Gary is the more willing parent, he was for the most part a good parent from the beginning, he made mistakes and was an ass at times like most of us have at one time or another, but I honestly did not suspect he would wind up being the primary care giver and thriving as a parent. I am happy to eat my hat in this case because Leah deserves a good parent in her corner, and I'm happy Gary has been able to fill that role. And I'm happy that I feel he is truly a good parent, not a case of by comparison to Amber he looks like a great parent (because my cat is a selfish bitch at times like waking me up at 4:30am for breakfast, but she would definitely be a better parent than Amber). I wasn't a fan of Gary in the beginning, he had his petty moments, and while I don't mean this about the abuse part of it because it's not the victims fault regardless, but he did seem to try to provoke her at times, he has definitely grown up a lot, and I happy for him and Leah.

[ginger90]

I didn't picture Gary coming through as he has. Long ago I thought his mother would end up raising Leah.

[CofCinci]

12 minutes ago, leighroda said:

I'm not sure if this will get merged, or be a separate entry, I didn't mean to hit submit.

i just can't believe I live in a world where Gary is the more willing parent, he was for the most part a good parent from the beginning, he made mistakes and was an ass at times like most of us have at one time or another, but I honestly did not suspect he would wind up being the primary care giver and thriving as a parent. I am happy to eat my hat in this case because Leah deserves a good parent in her corner, and I'm happy Gary has been able to fill that role. And I'm happy that I feel he is truly a good parent, not a case of by comparison to Amber he looks like a great parent (because my cat is a selfish bitch at times like waking me up at 4:30am for breakfast, but she would definitely be a better parent than Amber). I wasn't a fan of Gary in the beginning, he had his petty moments, and while I don't mean this about the abuse part of it because it's not the victims fault regardless, but he did seem to try to provoke her at times, he has definitely grown up a lot, and I happy for him and Leah.

Not only is Gary the better parent --- he is also the best father on the series.  Of all the 'talent' on this series, I believe he is the only one that will still have assets in 10 years.

Edited May 31, 2017 by CofCinci

[GreatKazu]

24 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

Not only is Gary the better parent --- he is also the best father on the series.  Of all the 'talent' on this series, I believe he is the only one that will still have assets in 10 years.

Gary also made a great choice in a wife and a mother for Leah - Kristina. Jo is the second best including the woman he chose to be his mate, Vee. 

[CofCinci]

12 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

Gary also made a great choice in a wife and a mother for Leah - Kristina. Jo is the second best including the woman he chose to be his mate, Vee. 

Jo continues to put Kail's needs above Vee and their baby.  Not their son's needs but Kail's own desires - to make Kail happy. I'm not sure how long Vee is going to put up with that. 

[Brooklynista]

12 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

Gary also made a great choice in a wife and a mother for Leah - Kristina. Jo is the second best including the woman he chose to be his mate, Vee. 

Jo will always have a special place in my heart. When she had plans of moving innwith her dad with the padlocked fridge, Jo told her " YOU can go, but Isaac is staying with me."

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

This guy is 10 years old, I swear. Hope the "surgery" is either a vasectomy,  or he's gone. And what about pain, oh how will he ever deal with the pain.....

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattbEPT/status/870008266960420864?p=v

I see Matt sold his story to "The Dirty." Ugh, Nick Richie, I know what kind of website "The Dirty" is, but let me say.....Matt Baier is beneath you.... "The Dirty" is far too classy for him.

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

A while ago Matt tweeted about going to a doctor and his name was House. At the time I just rolled my eyes. Now, I had to dig!! There is a Dr House in Indiana.

I'm not saying Matt's actually having surgery, but it was a stupid tweet if any of it is true, because little old me found him.

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattbEPT/status/865936988259700736?p=v

Please tell me the Dr. House in Indiana is a urologist who specializes in vasectomies.....

[GreatKazu]

16 minutes ago, Brooklynista said:

Jo will always have a special place in my heart. When she had plans of moving innwith her dad with the padlocked fridge, Jo told her " YOU can go, but Isaac is staying with me."

Jo has always made it loud and clear no matter what, he is not going anywhere and Hulk won't stop him. He will follow her Mother Russia ass to the ends of this planet if he has to.

Jo made my heart melt on the Cory Weekend special when he was shown on his phone and he let the guys know he misses his family back home. *swoon*

[ginger90]

22 minutes ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

I see Matt sold his story to "The Dirty." Ugh, Nick Richie, I know what kind of website "The Dirty" is, but let me say.....Matt Baier is beneath you.... "The Dirty" is far too classy for him.

Please tell me the Dr. House in Indiana is a urologist who specializes in vasectomies.....

Not the one that I found, sadly.

It will be interesting to see Amber without Matt at the reunion.

[SheTalksShit]

Wait, Amber did porn? What have I missed??!

[ClassyCourtHeels]

Anyone hear the new voicemails???? That Jeff is an expert impersonator of Matt.

[CofCinci]

5 minutes ago, ClassyCourtHeels said:

Anyone hear the new voicemails???? That Jeff is an expert impersonator of Matt.

Here are the newest recordings:

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC9jfWiCYhhbwaddRXfwJMKQ

As if the FBI would get involved in Matt's shenanigans. *eye roll*. What a bullshit threat.