Iris West

[Sakura12]

The Aftershow I watch like Patty, but aren't buying the Barry/Patty chemistry and think she's dying.

 

I get that they are keeping them apart because tv show reasons, but why are they keeping them apart as best friends?

[phoenics]

Pardon the length of this essay but if I were writing/producing this show, I probably wouldn't want to go anywhere near Iris anymore for fear of upsetting people. Someone is always upset about something w/ her and it’s hard to separate legitimate criticism from the criticisms of 1) biased haters or 2) biased fans. Iris fans are very vocal and her fan base seems huge, but it can get a little sticky when most of the comments about her character often resolve into conversations about her race, relevant though it is much of the time. Maybe that’s where part of the problem lays?

 

The people making this show decided on their own to make the West family black but I do wonder if they’re starting to regret that decision? It has come with a lot of baggage they’re clearly not used to managing. I don't think they understand the Iris hate in S1--because it was an unreasonable, illogical type of hatred they’ve never experienced before.  People are uncomfortable dealing w/ race or being anywhere near it if they don’t have to be.

I would agree with this except they knew this was going to happen - re: the racist hatred. That's why they told CP to stay off of social media. They knew what this would mean.

Besides, they play up the "representation matters" stuff when it's good for them (that tweet from the black mom of a 5 year old excited to see CP onscreen because she "looks like me mommy!"), so they should take the bad too and do something about it.

Also - this could EASILY be resolved by hiring a black woman writer with a good track record to make sure Iris is advocated for in the writing AND editing room. Problem solved.

[phoenics]

The Aftershow I watch like Patty, but aren't buying the Barry/Patty chemistry and think she's dying.

 

I get that they are keeping them apart because tv show reasons, but why are they keeping them apart as best friends?

I don't know. It makes no sense. In any other show with an endgame love interest, they at least keep that friendship front and center. Last season they did - they WANTED Eddie and Linda to know about that friendship and how in sync Iris and Barry are... it was a plot point more than once. This season, I don't even think Patty knows who Iris is.

That's insane. At some point, Patty needs to look like a hurt kitten when Iris wipes ketchup off of Barry's face, lol.

[dirtypop90]

I love reading avclub reviews for all my shows and boy are they in love with patty. She's every fanboy's dream. But tbh I don't care if people love Barry and patty because she's the female version of him and tbh it doesn't bother me that the writers brought on Patty. But Barry's new relationship shouldn't push iris out of his life and reduce her screen time. As the leading lady, she should be written for even if Barry has his eyes somewhere else at the moment.

And the writers pushing iris to the side, makes Barry look bad, because it seems as if he was only her bff because he thought he had a chance of being with her. he no longer thinks he does, and so now hes not interested in being friends. I know I'm not supposed to see it that way but that's how it feels to me.

[CabotCove]

To say that Iris has a similar problem to Laurel is a falsehood. By this point, Laurel had her own father, her own storylines, her own career independent of Oliver. Iris has none of these things.

 

Iris has all those things and more though IMO. She was quick to be revealed the secret and integrated in The Flash team, there are still some problems but I dont think she is any worse off than Laurel was at that point.

Edited November 11, 2015 by WildcardC

[phoenics]

Iris has all those things.

Yeah - but Laurel actually got Laurel centered scenes for all of those things. Iris reads more like a bit player in her own life. It's very upsetting to see that.

[nksarmi]

I can tell this is a HUGE deal for a lot of people, but I just have to say one thing - be exceedingly glad that Iris isn't being treated like Laurel.  First, part of why so many fans seem to want Laurel dead is because she doesn't blend into the story organically - she just doesn't fit.  And they keep trying to make her fit in the worst possible ways.  Plus by season two - her wonderful storyline was spiraling into drug abuse and coming off as the most hateful, spiteful character you could imagine.

 

In contrast, while they might not be using Iris much, she is being written as an amazing person.  She doesn't do Laurel's "what about me" stuff.  She didn't get really mad about Barry's secret when she discovered it and she immediately started being helpful and useful and supportive to him.  I know they don't have Laurel and Oliver's toxic history, but damn - Iris is a good woman all the same. 

 

Iris didn't jive for me in season one - I thought she was being written a little too young and immature.  But this season she is being shown as a capable, smart, high performer who Barry would be lucky to be with someday.  Basically, she's really cool.

 

And at least she also isn't getting the Caitlyn treatment where a smart, capable woman has to crush on a guy a little too early after a major loss.  A little flirtation between Caitlyn and Jay might have been cute, but they did way too much - way too soon.

 

Anyway, one last thought about Iris - maybe they are distancing Barry and Iris because the incest feel of season one was getting kind of squicky.  Like they over did it with the brother/sister share a dad vibe and they figured they needed to pull that back if they intend to get them together at some point.  I don't know if that's what it is - but if it is, I kind of agree with it.

[SevenStars]

Well I just dropped a particular After show because of all the gushing they were doing about Patty and Barry's chemistry. I'm like are we watching the same damn show. Everyone is quick to give so much to Patty but never ever Iris. I think this is a disservice created by the writers. They gave Iris very little importance in Barry's life this year and sidelined her fairly much in S1. Hell if her last name wasn't West you wouldn't even know that she was related to Joe. For now I just watch the show later so I can FF pass all things Barry and her related.

If you're talking about AfterBuzz, I stopped watching that panel since last season because of how the werest so bias against Iris, especially the black comic book guy.

[Sakura12]

I don't know. It makes no sense. In any other show with an endgame love interest, they at least keep that friendship front and center. Last season they did - they WANTED Eddie and Linda to know about that friendship and how in sync Iris and Barry are... it was a plot point more than once. This season, I don't even think Patty knows who Iris is.

That's insane. At some point, Patty needs to look like a hurt kitten when Iris wipes ketchup off of Barry's face, lol.

 

It's made more obvious by having Linda in multiple episodes and mentioning they used to date. That brings up the reason they broke up which was because Barry was in love with Iris. Now he barely remembers Iris exists. 

 

I would love for Joe to mention Iris and Patty to be "Wait, you have a daughter?"

[Marie F.]

I would agree with this except they knew this was going to happen - re: the racist hatred. That's why they told CP to stay off of social media. They knew what this would mean.

Besides, they play up the "representation matters" stuff when it's good for them (that tweet from the black mom of a 5 year old excited to see CP onscreen because she "looks like me mommy!"), so they should take the bad too and do something about it.

Also - this could EASILY be resolved by hiring a black woman writer with a good track record to make sure Iris is advocated for in the writing AND editing room. Problem solved.

 

They def knew it was going to happen, but I wonder if they expected it to be like this. I think most people see racial hatred as a bunch of people saying the n-word and calling her other names or outright saying that they don't like her because she's black. That's how most people view that type of hatred. Iris haters can be a lot more subtle than anyone would expect and I think some of them don't even understand why they hate her.

 

Yep, there needs to be someone to say "Hey, let's not make Mama West a druggie and make Wally a crack baby"  or "Hey, let's not strong!black!woman! Iris" or "Let's make sure that while Iris is giving Barry support that he is shown doing the same with her."

[phoenics]

Yeah - I agree. I'm off to self-medicate with the first season of The OC. And then maybe S1 of Roswell.

[Oscirus]

Iris has all those things and more though IMO. She was quick to be revealed the secret and integrated in The Flash team, there are still some problems but I dont think she is any worse off than Laurel was at that point.

No she didn't. By this point in the story, Laurel was an assistant DA which had nothing to do with Oliver, Captain Lance sure as hell wasn't too busy having father-son  scenes with Oliver to act like a father to her and she definitely had more storylines not involved with introducing characters to the show at this point. Hell, I even forgot that she was actually allowed to grieve Tommy;s death.

[nksarmi]

No she didn't. By this point in the story, Laurel was an assistant DA which had nothing to do with Oliver, Captain Lance sure as hell wasn't too busy having father-son  scenes with Oliver to act like a father to her and she definitely had more storylines not involved with introducing characters to the show at this point. Hell, I even forgot that she was actually allowed to grieve Tommy;s death.

 

But you make it sound like any of this was good for Laurel lol.  She grieved by becoming a drug addict.  Her sister came back from the dead and starting sleeping with her ex-lover again - making her addiction story even worse.  And worse, even though people were actually wronging her - they still made her come off hateful and unlikable.  She still didn't know the hero's secret and she got to the point where she and the hero of the story actively HATED each other.  Oh yea, and professionally she was failing so much she damn near got disbarred! Frankly, Laurel's path was perfect for someone they intended to turn into a villain!

 

Iris, in contrast, has a story relatively unrelated to Barry in her mother and at some point - her unknown brother.  It might not be in development now - but it is clearly being setup.  Iris is successful at her job and well respected by her coworkers.  She has a good female friend/interactions and isn't being dragged into a relationship just to be kept relevant (ie Caitlyn).  She might not be a scientist or tech person, but she has been shown giving Barry ideas and advice in his going abouts as the Flash.  Iris has been identified as Barry's best friend and they have a good dynamic whenever they share a scene together. She is at this point, everything - and I mean everything - Laurel has never been allowed to be on Arrow. 

 

All in all, no matter how many minutes she gets, in my opinion season two Iris is one of the best presented women in the Flarrowverse. I think I'd only rank her behind Felicity at this point.  I love Sara and Thea both, and I think they are awesome, but they are both flawed, damaged characters - who happen to kick some butt.  But Iris is a better "roll model" character than either of them.

[Oscirus]

My problem with Iris is I want her to be flawed. I don't want to necessarily agree with every decision she makes. Yea, Laurel became an alcoholic who nearly lost her job because of her grief, but at least it was a reaction to the situation. The only thing that Iris has done so far is paused when looking at Eddie's picture.  Hell  she runs into the guy responsible for her fiancée's death and other then a momentary lapse of shock, she doesn't even react to him.

 

Iris has been identified as Barry's best friend and they have a good dynamic whenever they share a scene together.

 

We get told all the time they're bffs but we rarely get shown it. Going back to the Oliver example, when Laurel was the LI, Oliver was shown trying to care for Laurel even when he knew that he wasn't going to get anything from her, IMO the same can't be said for Barry in regard to Iris.

 

If I thought the writers gave a damn about Iris, I'd tell them to stop being so scared with Iris and to take some risks with her character.

[phoenics]

Silly me - I thought that they would show Iris "grieving" for Eddie by showing her throwing herself into work and getting darn near killed all the time. Okay maybe not all the time - but literally showing her doing too much and being too much, with everyone looking at her with concern and thinking she was avoiding her pain.

But instead, we get her nearly invisible, not grieving at all, and being a "Strong Black Woman". To this day, my mother cannot cry because when she was little and a family member died, she was admonished not to cry. So she just stopped. And literally cannot do it today. That SBW BS starts early and I HAAAAATE it.

If the show had Barry, or anyone ACKNOWLEDGE that Iris is burying herself in work and not around as much because she's avoiding them because they might make her face what happened, etc.. then okay.

But nope.

So we're left with Caitlin being hugged/comforted by Barry for losing Ronnie AGAIN minutes after Iris lost Eddie who SHOT HIMSELF in the chest, and Iris can't even get a hug and when the season comes back we get... nothing.

I can count one time when Barry seemed concerned about Iris - and that was when he was blind and Iris brushed it off.

This is not okay.

Edited November 11, 2015 by phoenics

[VCRTracking]

Maybe they didn't want a repeat of how Laurel on Arrow reacted after Tommy died? The way she dealt with her grief and guilt was....problematic at best. They've made so many missteps with Laurel over there that I pray they don't repeat with Iris. Yes Laurel has had her own storylines but for the most part they've been horrible and made her more and more unlikable to most. Right now I still like Iris. A lot.

Edited November 11, 2015 by VCRTracking

[Jenesis]

So it seems the writers are looking at Iris' character heading in two directions:

1. Give her some POV, good or bad and hope to deal with fans that will hate her no matter what (but have the people who like her character cheer)

2. Keep her safe and in the background and create an apathy to anything she says or does, because it has no impact on the meat of the show. Haters will continue to hate and her supporters will get frustrated and wander away from the show.

 

And this is very shortsighted. If they are show-runners, take her character in a direction you want her to be. Giver her compelling stories that fit into the action. Cisco and the folks at Star Labs have their roles. They don't have the time to search around and investigate stories and properly fit the pieces together. Iris and 100% do that. And she's the only person no one would bat an eye about nosing around in dangerous situations. Having Cisco and Caitlyn just doesn't add up.

 

And I don' get it. People are asking for more Iris. We see it at Comic con and on spoiler interviews. They say it's coming and they just don't do it. They just don't. I mean the Iris/Barry love and friendship is all but dropped. Her mom storyline came and went faster than the Flash. We didn't see her rising in the journalism world. Why? Saying they can't write for black women characters is an old and tired excuse. Especially, they don't necessarily write Iris as a "black" woman so they should have no problem writing for her.

[VCRTracking]

Iris' role on the show may be smaller but it is way, WAY, better than it was last season, when she was the only one kept in the dark about Barry's secret. The quality has improved even if the quantity has lessened.

[playmak]

they wouldve avoided the backlash had they stuck to the comics version of iris.

Edited November 14, 2015 by playmak

[venusnv80]

They're liars when it comes to Iris and her storylines. The CW has perfected the art of getting the fandom, especially the part who supports black females, to support their shows in hopes of actually seeing their girl get more or at the very least equal billing, storylines, attention as their counterparts. Iris has been handled poorly, they did it last season and it hasn't changed this season. I swear if I hear her chirp how everything's great one.more.time...I may develop a voice like Zoom's.

Eddie died....nothing.

Her mom came back as a drug addict...nothing.

Secret brother...nothing.

Why has she had a chance to mourn episode after episode....what did they show? Iris alone on the stairs crying.

A show and a character that I thought would be an easy watch for me almost made me forget on paper that I was dealing with the CW. Never again.

[zannej]

Phoenics, I'm sorry to hear that happened to your mother. The whole thing about strong people not crying is such total BS. I know crying too much can be unhealthy, but not crying at all is not healthy either. I feel sad for anyone who is taught that they are not allowed to cry. I hate the suggestion that crying means someone is "weak". Sometimes it takes strength to just let it out and admit the feelings.

 

I really wish they would find ways to have Iris be more useful. She used to come up with good info from trying to find out about "The streak" and other metahumans. She can now interview people and try to find her own sources that can give her info that she can use to help the team find metahumans (I think she has done that in the past) or figure out where a criminal is hiding.

 

I would love to see her interact with E2 Harrison Wells one-on-one. As it is, we have no idea how she even feels about him. We really don't know how she feels about most of Barry's friends. Hell, right now we aren't even sure how she feels about Barry.

 

Even if she wasn't present when Barry woke up, it would have been nice if someone in the room had immediately called her to tell her that Barry was conscious. I mean, maybe she was in the bathroom or had to go to work. But after seeing Barry being dangled by Zoom, you'd think she would have immediately called Star Labs or her dad or someone and tried to figure out if he was ok. I'm hoping they will actually give her something useful in the next episode.

[Trini]

Even if she wasn't present when Barry woke up, it would have been nice if someone in the room had immediately called her to tell her that Barry was conscious. I mean, maybe she was in the bathroom or had to go to work. But after seeing Barry being dangled by Zoom, you'd think she would have immediately called Star Labs or her dad or someone and tried to figure out if he was ok. I'm hoping they will actually give her something useful in the next episode.

 

I mean, they actually had an 'out' that made sense: she could have been with Linda escorting her out of town. They just don't try hard enough, or even think about including Iris in scenes. Her being in the room would have been ideal, but even a line of dialogue would have shown that they thought about her.

[MyrcellasEar]

I'm not sure which of you (if any) is FashionMaven, but I wanted to thank you for commenting so eloquently on the HitFix article that trashed Candice. It's too bad that more members of "entertainment journalist" can't acknowledge their own biases and see past their prejudgment of Iris and Candice. But it's always nice to know that there are others out there who can see that she is talented and Iris is a worthwhile investment for the show.

[Actionmage]

The quality has improved even if the quantity has lessened.

 

This isn't like some super-concentrated substance, this is expanding a character and giving an actress the chance to do her damn job.  Especially one we've been promised- by the nature of the character CP is supposed to be playing- since before the show hit the air.

 

I don't think it's greedy of fans to want a character- who was billed as Important To The Main Character- to remain relevant to the show. Iris is barely relevant to her own drama and has largely been kept away from Barry. Yes, she gave Barry a pep talk or two and they had the spectacularly comic book moment when he saved Iris in the premiere. Yet? She is off caring for other folks- which is great!- but no one is caring for Iris.

 

You would think there could be wonderful scenes of Iris and Caitlin grieving/ helping each other over grief "relapses" or even having Clarissa go Mother Hen on both women, even though she got Martin back. Yet, we do not. We do get drabbles of awesome Iris/Linda friendship, so there is that. Yet accepting crappy treatment of  a character just because the writing of a handful of scenes is better, is, to me, like expecting Coulson, from Agents of SHIELD, not to stand by Daisy/Skye's bedside if she were hurt and vice versa. No one would buy that.

[Jenesis]

One lousy line this week. I don't get why they cast Iris West if they really don't like her or any story she might be part of. Candice is beautiful and a good actress. Iris has a pretty good following and WestAllen is the most popular pairing for the show. So.... what is the deal? Someone needs to call out the writers. I mean, when they start sprouting "Oh yea, we have something big planned for Iris" some needs to call out "Bullshit, you always say that. Anything she could be doing, you give it to another character."

[SevenStars]

I'm getting so bitter over the treatment of Iris that I hope Candice have an open contract and she xan go look for outside projects because the writers are just wasting her. I hope she is at least getting pay really well.

[iRarelyWatchTV36]

Although she should have gotten more than one little questioning line, its understandable Iris didn't get a ton of screen time in this episode.  There was quite a bit going on... and lets face it, this wasn't just a F/A crossover, its the springboard for LoT.

 

 

{a bit OT here...}  And speaking of the (possible) misuse of female charaters - they actually said that Laurel was already in CC visiting mom... if that's the case, where was she when Barry & Oliver confronted VS at the church in CC?  Also, considering they are just as big a part of LoT as the Hawks are; where were Sara & Ray??  Trying to get people interested in a new show while only showing 3 people (out of about 10 total) who will be actually be on it regularly or every episode.  Smart.  [/sarcasm]

Edited December 2, 2015 by iRarelyWatchTV36

[phoenics]

I'm getting so bitter over the treatment of Iris that I hope Candice have an open contract and she xan go look for outside projects because the writers are just wasting her. I hope she is at least getting pay really well.

I'm exactly where you are.

That line of dialogue she got screamed "contractual obligations".

I'm so, so angry. I remember when this show started in Season 1 I was cautiously optimistic. Then when they had Barry so in love with her, I was like "OMGosh they are actually doing it - she's like a for real love interest and leading character! Yay Flash!"

And now - it's like Twisted and Sleepy Hollow.

I am legit depressed over this. I feel very much baited and switched.

[SevenStars]

Although she should have gotten more than one little questioning line, its understandable Iris didn't get a ton of screen time in this episode. There was quite a bit going on... and lets face it, this wasn't just a F/A crossover, its the springboard for LoT.

[/sarcasm]

I agree with you about not enough screen time but they could have giving her more than one line if they wanted to.

Also, I think this is just adding on to the frustration of having Iris marginalized in almost every episodes since this season started. I wouldn't be complaining if this wasn't a continuation of a pattern that the writers seems to be developing when it comes to writing for Iris. If it was just this episode, I wouldn't really complain about it. I would miss her in the episode but I wouldn't be bitter or frustrated by it.

[miracole]

The blatant way in which they are marginalizing her is making me really not enjoy the show very much.

[SevenStars]

I'm exactly where you are.

That line of dialogue she got screamed "contractual obligations".

I'm so, so angry. I remember when this show started in Season 1 I was cautiously optimistic. Then when they had Barry so in love with her, I was like "OMGosh they are actually doing it - she's like a for real love interest and leading character! Yay Flash!"

And now - it's like Twisted and Sleepy Hollow.

I am legit depressed over this. I feel very much baited and switched.

I didn't even start watching the show for her, it was Grant that got me interested in watching the show and I continued watching because I enjoy most of the characters.

But the way the writers have been treating Iris is making me unable to really enjoy the show. Because each episode makes me so frustrated at the treatment of Iris that I can't even really enjoy the other part of the show. So now, I'mat the point that if things don't change for Iris, I'mgoing to have to say goodbye to the show because I don't want to feel this way about a show I should be loving.

I totally dropped Twisted as soon as I saw where the writers were going. I didn't even stay for the second half. And I totally agree with you, it was bait and switch.

[iRarelyWatchTV36]

I totally understand the frustrations, I share them.  Which is why I said she should have gotten a little more than what she did tonight.

 

Like I replied to a reply to my post, over on the ep thread - someone said that Iris was marginalized because she didn't serve the plot, and my rejoinder was that seems to be her running gag this season (so far).  If not for knowing better, I'd swear Iris was nothing more than a recurring guest star on this show.  It makes no sense and makes one consider that these showrunners are a bit off in the head.  Taking the supposed lead female character and pushing them out of plots and storylines to make another female front and center.  First Laurel/Felicity and now Iris/Patty.  One seriously wonders.

 

Maybe Iris and Jay are 'bro'ing out in offscreensville, during all the screen time neither are getting.

[SevenStars]

It makes no sense and makes one consider that these showrunners are a bit off in the head. Taking the supposed lead female character and pushing them out of plots and storylines to make another female front and center. First Laurel/Felicity and now Iris/Patty. One seriously wonders.

Maybe Iris and Jay are 'bro'ing out in offscreensville, during all the screen time neither are getting.

Which is making me wonder whether it was the network who wanted these leads and not the writers, which would explain the switch. But in Iris cause the writers claim that it was Candice they wanted. Also, from what I heard from people who are into the CW shows ( I only watch Flash on their network), the network wouldn't have gone out of their way to pick a WOC as the lead on their show.

[phoenics]

The rumor is that The CW didn't want Iris West (or the West family) to be black, but Geoff Johns, who basically runs DC Comics creatively (and is a producer/writer for the Flash) fought hard for it and he also LOVED Candice Patton.

Maybe fans need to start a tweet campaign to him.

[venusnv80]

I'm seeing the same arguments about Iris' lack of screen time that I've seen for Bonnie Bennett for seven seasons. I.Am.Exhausted. Absolutely exhausted. They at least can use the excuse that Kat Graham is not the lead on TVD, but I see absolutely no excuse for the way Candace is treated and no one can convince me that it wouldn't be this way if she wasn't black (YEARSSSSSSSSSS of watching the CW told me that I am not wrong). So The Flash will not be part of my tv watching until I see some improvement in the Iris area. I'm sick of being upset, pissed and downright bamboozled again and again. The CW will never change. People thinks its all good for Kendra right now, watch what happens when Sarah is added to the line up. 

[Ruby25]

I'm also very, very suspicious that this wouldn't be happening to her if she was played by a white actress. I hate to think that, but I can't help it. I'm utterly flabbergasted by the way she's been treated, considering how important she's supposed to be, and the fact that they'd rather write for Caitlin and freakin' Patty is like a big, fat anvil of doom, imo.

Edited December 2, 2015 by Ruby25

[iRarelyWatchTV36]

EDITED:  Moved to appropriate (Relationships) thread.

Edited December 2, 2015 by iRarelyWatchTV36

[venusnv80]

I'm also very, very suspicious that this wouldn't be happening to her is she was played by a white actress. I hate to think that, but I can't help it. I'm utterly flabbergasted at the way she's been treated, considering how important she's supposed to be, and the fact that they'd rather write for Caitlin and freakin' Patty is like a big, fat anvil of doom, imo.

I cut a show based on a comic book NO slack. Iris is not some character they made out of thin air. They have SOMETHING to draw from and they can't even do that. They refuse to do it. Patty is useless to me and she wasn't need in any way, shape or form. What exactly has she done to advance any plot this season? She's worse than Eddie and I couldn't stand him. 

 

So there's a reason for what they are doing and unfortunately the CW will never get the benefit of the doubt because of their history. 

Edited December 2, 2015 by venusnv80

[jaytee1812]

I've said in another thread the EPs have said they wanted Jesse L. Martin. I think they didn't think as far as having to write for his black daughter.

[dirtypop90]

I've said in another thread the EPs have said they wanted Jesse L. Martin. I think they didn't think as far as having to write for his black daughter.

 

I didn't know that. Their clear preference for joe/barry over barry/iris makes sense now

[Oscirus]

I'm pretty sure that Martin could've been cast as detective Joe Blow and still been a father figure to Barry. The reason why Iris is black is because the new Wally West in the comics is black so they're matching everything up.

 

I warned people, Iris isn't special effects, so they don't give a damn about her. She's the only main character in the flarrow universe to not appear in a crossover on the other show. That should tell you all you need to know about their opinion of her. Let CP and the flash writers lie to you and get your hopes up on her future storylines if you want to.

[jaytee1812]

I'm seeing the same arguments about Iris' lack of screen time that I've seen for Bonnie Bennett for seven seasons. I.Am.Exhausted. Absolutely exhausted. They at least can use the excuse that Kat Graham is not the lead on TVD, but I see absolutely no excuse for the way Candace is treated and no one can convince me that it wouldn't be this way if she wasn't black (YEARSSSSSSSSSS of watching the CW told me that I am not wrong). So The Flash will not be part of my tv watching until I see some improvement in the Iris area. I'm sick of being upset, pissed and downright bamboozled again and again. The CW will never change. People thinks its all good for Kendra right now, watch what happens when Sarah is added to the line up.

Interestingly enough Ciara who plays Kendra took to Twitter in the past couple of days to make it explicitly clear she's white.

So over three shows that are supposedly linked, Iris is the only woman of colour.

[phoenics]

I was going to comment on Ciara's tweets, but I got too angry so... welp - she's on her own! Good luck Ciara. Based on my perusal of imdb, you're on your own.

[miracole]

Interestingly enough Ciara who plays Kendra took to Twitter in the past couple of days to make it explicitly clear she's white.

 

You don't say. 

[venusnv80]

Interestingly enough Ciara who plays Kendra took to Twitter in the past couple of days to make it explicitly clear she's white.

So over three shows that are supposedly linked, Iris is the only woman of colour.

Seriously? Could have fooled me and I guess they did. Edited December 2, 2015 by venusnv80

[jaytee1812]

I was going to comment on Ciara's tweets, but I got too angry so... welp - she's on her own! Good luck Ciara. Based on my perusal of imdb, you're on your own.

I actually checked two or three times that I was on the right Twitter page.

I'm giving the Wally West storyline a go but if it's more of the same I'm out. Villains have had more PoV than Iris this season.

[SimoneS]

I haven't been into The Flash this season because of the racist treatment the character of Iris and Candace Patton. I came here to see what people were saying about the treatment of Iris and see others share my thoughts. It was bad enough when she was being marginalized, now they are disappearing her. I am pretty much done with The Flash unless I hear that things have changed with Iris/Candace.

[wingster55]

So over three shows that are supposedly linked, Iris is the only woman of colour.

 

*prays for Linda to return*

[Ruby25]

Linda should return! An easy setup recurring story for her and Iris at the news is staring them straight in the face. Get rid of Patty and bring back Linda, seriously writers. It's so obvious. Plus, Linda ties into Wally eventually too.

 

I'm going to be baffled once more if they never think of this.

[jaytee1812]

Could not have liked these two posts hard enough. I love Iris and Linda together.