Spoilers and Speculation: Clink Boom and Cheese Fondue

[TeeVee329]

Awww Monica's so happy!

[dubbel zout]

Isn't she supposed to be at a spa in New Mexico, bathing in the harmonic convergence?

[TeeVee329]

That was exposited in today's episode, her flight got grounded due to weather.

[dubbel zout]

Ah. I should have figured. I get the 3 p.m. airing.

[yowsah1]

Never mind, my spoiler guess got spoiled...  :)

Edited November 23, 2017 by yowsah1

[TeeVee329]

Next week's spoilers: https://tvsourcemagazine.com/2017/11/general-hospital-spoilers-november-27-december-1-2017/

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Sonny confronts Obrecht and later gets help from an old friend.

Again, I hope Obrecht tells him to shove it up his tiny mobster ass.  But who do we think the old friend is?  Maybe Spinelli?

[LexieLily]

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Sam isn’t exactly forthcoming and is later called out by Nina.

Nina needs to shut her mouth about things that don't concern her. She and Sam aren't friends.

Edited November 24, 2017 by LexieLily

[ulkis]

I'm pretty meh on Sam right now but I think they will try to make Nina and Sam friends and that is absurd.

[TeeVee329]

Yeah, there is no way Sam and Nina should and would be friends for a variety of reasons - Nina's antics during Sam's relationship with Silas, Nina's husband murdering Sam's cousin, Nina thinking Franco's a swell guy and dating him for a while, Nina being a bitch to Sam's friend Maxie, etc.

[Oracle42]

Nina's continued existence is absurd. The best thing she could do for GH is to be killed off by the murderhobo

[LexieLily]

Nina is lucky she still has a job now that Jason/Sam own her company. 

1 minute ago, Oracle42 said:

Nina's continued existence is absurd. The best thing she could do for GH is to be killed off by the murderhobo

And Franco actually gets convicted without a tumor to absolve him and goes to jail. Win-win!

[Neptune]

The Scoop: GH previews, teasers, and spoilers for the Week of November 27, 2017

http://soapcentral.com/gh/content/scoop/spoilers/2017/171127.php

[HeatLifer]

4 hours ago, ulkis said:

I'm pretty meh on Sam right now but I think they will try to make Nina and Sam friends and that is absurd.

*raises hand* This is why I think KeMo will win and stay paired with BM. They're already branching her out. She's no longer in the OGJason/Sonny/Carly clique.

[Oracle42]

Being stuck with Nina is not a win

[stlbf]

1 hour ago, Oracle42 said:

Being stuck with Nina is not a win

I would look at it this way: Sam is Nina's boss, not her friend. Sam holds the keys to the job Nina loves. So it could be a fun time for Sam to continue to make Nina squirm.

[Oracle42]

I don't care enough about her to enjoy her suffering. She's not a 'love to hate character' - she's just another bad casting decision that FV won't admit was a mistake

[Neptune]

[Neptune]

[TeeVee329]

So Franco and Liz are there, but I guessing Diane et. al are yelling at Andre to tell them which one is which.  So Franco's just going to completely skate?  Booooo.

ETA...although, I guess Andre could blow up Franco's spot.  It would certainly score him some points with me.

Edited November 27, 2017 by TeeVee329

[dubbel zout]

Does Franco know who’s who? I thought his big secret was that the Jasons were twins. I don’t get how it matters at this point for him. I know he’s afraid Elizabeth will want Jason Burton, but we know that won’t happen.

[TeeVee329]

I think he does.  Didn't we see him burn something in the fire that would show which was which?

[Cheyanne11]

9 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

I think he does.  Didn't we see him burn something in the fire that would show which was which?

Yes--the printout that Andre gave him before he booked out of town that supposedly had "all the answers."

[dubbel zout]

I still don’t understand how that affects Franco. For me the fact everyone know the Jasons are actually twins is the news. If Elizabeth were going to dump Franco, it should be because he’s lied about all of this. I don’t get the “she’ll go back to Jason” fear. Just because there are two doesn’t mean she’ll want one. Jason Miller is with Sam for now, and Jason Burton is back up in Sonny’s ass. Who wants to deal with that?

[Chairperson Meow]

4 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I still don’t understand how that affects Franco. For me the fact everyone know the Jasons are actually twins is the news. If Elizabeth were going to dump Franco, it should be because he’s lied about all of this. I don’t get the “she’ll go back to Jason” fear. Just because there are two doesn’t mean she’ll want one. Jason Miller is with Sam for now, and Jason Burton is back up in Sonny’s ass. Who wants to deal with that?

Idk.   The only thing more threatening to the men of PC than two Jasons is two Sonnys.    And we all know one Jason magic peen enchanted the ladies,  but two?  

[IWantCandy71]

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I'm pretty meh on Sam right now but I think they will try to make Nina and Sam friends and that is absurd.

It's pretty dumb that Carly would give Sam the time of day, and look at those two. I mean, Sam did carry on with Sonny while he was married to Carly one of the previous times, correct ? They've been on that see saw and off again so many times, I can't remember. Pretty sure Sonny and Carly were at least dilly dallying together at the same time Sonny and Sam were, if they weren't married. And yet Carlybabes is totes okay with Sam. Liz and Sam were semi okay with each other the last time I watched. So many of these interactions have always been completely false to me and do not jibe with the histories. I don't expect the characters to constantly be at each other's throats. I have no interest in constant revenge plots or bickering. But I also don't want to see characters be friends, who shouldn't be friends. I also don't want to see characters in one another lives when they have no business being so.  It's why-while I understand why Jason and Sam hate Franco, for instance-I got so tired of hearing it. Yes, Franco is a bad man who did bad things. But so is Jason, and so is anyone who supports him, so why not just call it a draw and keep those characters OUT of each other's storylines ? Liz and Jakeson can share Jake and never, ever have a one on one scene ever again-ditto Sam/Liz, Jason/Franco and Sam/Franco. It isn't entertaining. It makes me hate all four of them, because they all come across as smug, holier than thou pigs. It does none of them any favors.

[Auntie Velvet]

4 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I still don’t understand how that affects Franco. For me the fact everyone know the Jasons are actually twins is the news. If Elizabeth were going to dump Franco, it should be because he’s lied about all of this. I don’t get the “she’ll go back to Jason” fear. Just because there are two doesn’t mean she’ll want one. Jason Miller is with Sam for now, and Jason Burton is back up in Sonny’s ass. Who wants to deal with that?

It's all pretty contrived, but Franco said (I think to Scotty) that telling Liz what he knows would necessitate explaining the part about him supposedly tossing toddler Drew down the stairs. And that would mean that The Evil is part of who Franco inherently is, and wasn't just the later tumor. So that would cause her to leave him. I know it's twisted, but it serves the plot, such as it is! 

[ulkis]

19 minutes ago, IWantCandy71 said:

It's pretty dumb that Carly would give Sam the time of day, and look at those two. I mean, Sam did carry on with Sonny while he was married to Carly one of the previous times, correct ? They've been on that see saw and off again so many times, I can't remember. Pretty sure Sonny and Carly were at least dilly dallying together at the same time Sonny and Sam were, if they weren't married. And yet Carlybabes is totes okay with Sam. Liz and Sam were semi okay with each other the last time I watched. .

I didn't mean that Sam and Nina interacting was absurd from a show context, I meant that it's absurd from a meta one . . . just randomly sticking in Nina with Sam, as if she already doesn't get enough airtime and random interactions (Nina).

Although Carly isn't really totally okay with Sam . . . Sam is just the lesser evil for Carly out of all the women Jason could be with.

[IWantCandy71]

34 minutes ago, ulkis said:

I didn't mean that Sam and Nina interacting was absurd from a show context, I meant that it's absurd from a meta one . . . just randomly sticking in Nina with Sam, as if she already doesn't get enough airtime and random interactions (Nina).

Although Carly isn't really totally okay with Sam . . . Sam is just the lesser evil for Carly out of all the women Jason could be with.

I guess I don't see the difference. My main point was that they put characters in scenes together all the time who shouldn't be interacting. Plus, lots of folks had their turn propping Sam back in the day. I'm also not sure I want to get in any debate about Sam versus Nina's airtime. Both characters are pointless, and both characters have, in their time, eaten up way too much airtime better served by better actors and characters.

Edited November 27, 2017 by IWantCandy71

[jsbt]

Fakeout. They're gonna say Miller is Jason (he's not). Watch. That's how this story goes another 6-9 months while Burton is forced to cozy up to TB and the kid and he and Sam look longingly at each other from afar. I'll be shocked if they end it here.

[Oracle42]

3 hours ago, IWantCandy71 said:

I have no interest in constant revenge plots or bickering. But I also don't want to see characters be friends, who shouldn't be friends

This has been an ongoing issue. I don't know whether it's a clumsy attempt to create female friendships or just laziness w/r/t character history. 

[HeatLifer]

2 hours ago, jsbt said:

Fakeout. They're gonna say Miller is Jason (he's not). Watch. That's how this story goes another 6-9 months while Burton is forced to cozy up to TB and the kid and he and Sam look longingly at each other from afar. I'll be shocked if they end it here.

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that one of the mags says that the Jason reveal is IT. Whoever is Jason won't change. 

[Hater]

I'm pretty sure there is zero fakeout.  Billy is playing Drew.

Edited November 28, 2017 by Hater

[jsbt]

Hey, I hope it ends here. To me there is zero doubt Burton is Jason and Miller is Drew, either now or later - I just expect(ed) them to string the fakeouts and redirects out for months to try to keep Miller around, as they'd intended to do with the same story on OLTL.

Edited November 28, 2017 by jsbt

[Hater]

Just now, jsbt said:

Hey, I hope so. To me there is zero doubt Burton is Jason and Miller is Drew, either now or later - I just expect(ed) them to string the fakeouts and redirects out for months to try to keep Miller around, as they'd intended to do with the same story on OLTL.

Either way, it's the same exact plot and outline of the Tale of 2 Todds.  Nothing is fundamentally different.  

[jsbt]

Yes, absolutely.

[Asp Burger]

On 11/27/2017 at 6:09 PM, Auntie Velvet said:

It's all pretty contrived, but Franco said (I think to Scotty) that telling Liz what he knows would necessitate explaining the part about him supposedly tossing toddler Drew down the stairs. And that would mean that The Evil is part of who Franco inherently is, and wasn't just the later tumor. So that would cause her to leave him. I know it's twisted, but it serves the plot, such as it is! 

Yeah, that's all pretty weak. I guess I can see it from this chronically insecure character's point of view, but geez, unless he remembers doing it because he was possessed of a murderous rage, or he coldly planned out in advance to shove Drew down stairs to get rid of him once and for all, it just sounds like something that actually happens with little kids. They're playing and one of them gets mad and the other one gets hurt.

Didn't the child version of Sonny (...yes, I know, there is nothing but the "child version of Sonny," but I mean the one in the flashbacks) accidentally cause Adela to fall down some stairs while she was pregnant with Ric?

Edited November 29, 2017 by Asp Burger

[dubbel zout]

Exactly. They were little kids when Drew went down the stairs. And who’s to say there were no beginnings of the tumor back then? It’s excused everything else.

[ulkis]

SOD: Nathan talks to Dr.O; Oscar gets closer to the truth; Alexis watches as her loved ones suffer; Sam asks SBJason for help; Michael receives life changing news

Nelle's gonna say she's pregnant, isn't she. Aaaah.

[TeeVee329]

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Carly’s day goes from bad to worse. {Dec 8}

Good.

[OnceSane]

1 hour ago, ulkis said:

SOD: Nathan talks to Dr.O; Oscar gets closer to the truth; Alexis watches as her loved ones suffer; Sam asks SBJason for help; Michael receives life changing news

Nelle's gonna say she's pregnant, isn't she. Aaaah.

Probably.  And then try to steal Maxie's baby and pass it off as her own.  That is, if she's supposed to be a spicy bad girl that week.

[dubbel zout]

Claudette is the spicy bad girl. Nelle is the schemer. Keep up!

[Oracle42]

Whatever.  Until it happens, I'm going to pretend that AJ shows up.

Ugh, baby hijinks. Unless this is a way to pair up Maxie/Michael I am uninterested. 

[Asp Burger]

One thing I will say. The "mystery" about which Jason is which does make the spoilers more ambiguous. Some of the spoiler sites are referring to Miller as Jason; some are referring to Burton as Jason; some are still referring to Burton Jason as "Six" or "Patient Six."

"Jason's insecurities get the best of him"...well, that one is easy. Miller.  Holy Hitman isn't programmed to have insecurities. 

However, "Jason is in disbelief" or "Jason turns to Monica"...could be either one.

"Carly proposes a new way of life to Jason"...not sure. She could be telling the Miller one to embrace his Navy SEAL past and run away with Tamara Braun, or she could be asking the Burton one to move into her and Sonny's bedroom.  

Edited November 29, 2017 by Asp Burger

[yowsah1]

On 11/27/2017 at 9:59 AM, Neptune said:

The only thing that could even come close to being a shocking twist here is if Franco turns out to be Jason, Burton turns out to be Franco, and Miller turns out to be A.J.  Otherwise it's the same ol' snoozefest.

[WendyCR72]

Anyone remember the *original (*before it was watered down - meh) "Little Miss Puffy Tail" Quilted Northern ad that the voice over had it saying, "Dear God. Smash me. Smash me into a million pieces..."?

That's basically how I feel reading any of these spoilers.

[Hater]

1 hour ago, yowsah1 said:

The only thing that could even come close to being a shocking twist here is if Franco turns out to be Jason, Burton turns out to be Franco, and Miller turns out to be A.J.  Otherwise it's the same ol' snoozefest.

:)  Agreed.   Nothing is shocking about this show.  The fact they even push it is hysterical.

Edited November 29, 2017 by Hater

[IWantCandy71]

12 hours ago, yowsah1 said:

The only thing that could even come close to being a shocking twist here is if Franco turns out to be Jason, Burton turns out to be Franco, and Miller turns out to be A.J.  Otherwise it's the same ol' snoozefest.

I will forever be stunned that anyone finds any version of Jason, ever, interesting. Or shocking. Or spoiler worthy. Same with any of his pairings. The interest in either the character(s) or who he's making eyes at has always been PnL material when it wasn't boring me to death. He's either a milquetoast goody goody who looks down his nose at others, or a milquetoast murderer who looks down his nose at others. And neither one of the actors are great looking IMO. Passably handsome, yes. Worth fighting over ? HA. No. And talent wise, again, no. Give me Rick Hearst back as Ric Lansing full time, over either SBu or BM playing Jason. Give me Wally Kurth on contract, give me Sean Kanan, Billy Warlock or even Gerald Hopkins back as AJ over either Jason. I'd tune back in for any of the three of them, provided that AJ wasn't  someone's victim again.

 

And I gotta repeat it again: the age difference between the two "Jasons". Obvious. Yeah, plastic surgery. I know. Uh huh.

Edited November 29, 2017 by IWantCandy71

[TeeVee329]

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 Sonny fills Anna in. {Dec 12}

Ewww.  I don't like when Sonny and Anna collaborate, work together, etc.  He's a career criminal, she should never!

[TeeVee329]

Jon Lindstrom Instagram-ed a pic of him in a tux.  Looks like they're filming the Kevin/Laura wedding. 

[HeatLifer]

4 hours ago, IWantCandy71 said:

I will forever be stunned that anyone finds any version of Jason, ever, interesting.

I loved Jason from '96-'98 and still watch GH clips from that period from time to time. Heh.