Spoilers and Speculation: Clink Boom and Cheese Fondue

[stlbf]

On 10/31/2017 at 7:34 AM, Star Aristille said:

Since he found out about his own condition.

Wrong.  He threw plenty of verbal shade at her.

Bull. Sonny cares only about himself. He couldn't care less about other's mental conditions.  He preyed upon Karen Wexler. He couldn't have cared less about AJ and his alcoholism. He drinks, he preached to Morgan about taking care of himself, but we still saw Sonny drinking alcohol. Sonny's bipolar is pure emmy bait. It only comes up to give Sonny some sympathy and excuses for his behavior. Otherwise it is rarely a daily issue for him. Sonny's bipolar condition is his newest excuse win. Before it was his abusive step dad, the cop. That excuse got stale and MB and/or the writers wanted to do something with MB's actual real life condition. Which is fine and dandy if you are really going to follow through and do it right. Which this show cannot do. 

Julian did little to nothing to the woman who almost murdered the little sister he actually claims to love and stole away with her premie baby girl. He gave Nina a god damn job, with control of Crimson magazine. A mean word here and there is freaking nothing. 

[BlancheDevoreaux]

8 hours ago, stlbf said:

Bull. Sonny cares only about himself. He couldn't care less about other's mental conditions.  He preyed upon Karen Wexler. He couldn't have cared less about AJ and his alcoholism. He drinks, he preached to Morgan about taking care of himself, but we still saw Sonny drinking alcohol. Sonny's bipolar is pure emmy bait. It only comes up to give Sonny some sympathy and excuses for his behavior. Otherwise it is rarely a daily issue for him. Sonny's bipolar condition is his newest excuse win. Before it was his abusive step dad, the cop. That excuse got stale and MB and/or the writers wanted to do something with MB's actual real life condition. Which is fine and dandy if you are really going to follow through and do it right. Which this show cannot do. 

Julian did little to nothing to the woman who almost murdered the little sister he actually claims to love and stole away with her premie baby girl. He gave Nina a god damn job, with control of Crimson magazine. A mean word here and there is freaking nothing. 

And let's not forget that his bipolar storyline coincided with the horrible pairing of Sonny and Emily as she was there to help him through the diagnosis. For that reason alone, I will forever hate the bipolar storyline.

[LexieLily]

I wish I could be optimistic but I'm not.

[HeatLifer]

GET UR ASS TO THE BRIDGE, GIRL!

[Star Aristille]

45 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

GET UR ASS TO THE BRIDGE, GIRL!

YES!  Can't wait to see that reunion!

[HeatLifer]

2 hours ago, Star Aristille said:

YES!  Can't wait to see that reunion!

Me when Robin sees him and says "there you are" and Jason says "Where else would I be?"

https://giphy.com/gifs/1BXa2alBjrCXC

[TeeVee329]

Next week's spoilers: https://tvsourcemagazine.com/2017/11/general-hospital-spoilers-november-6-10-2017/

So Liz...hasn't dumped Franco for keeping the twin secret?  She's not going to dump him for withholding the information he has about which is which?

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Monica makes her intentions clear.

I'm worried this means she picks Billy Miller Jason, he's proved to be Drew, and then Steve Burton Jason and/or Carly and Sonny yell at her, blech.

[BlancheDevoreaux]

Ugh. I am over the idea of a Maxie/Nathan/Amy triangle.

[TeeVee329]

25 minutes ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

Ugh. I am over the idea of a Maxie/Nathan/Amy triangle.

I wonder if it'll become a quad with Amy 2.0's brother, bleh.

[Cheyanne11]

16 hours ago, HeatLifer said:

GET UR ASS TO THE BRIDGE, GIRL!

SBu's return won't feel right until this happens.

[Oracle42]

30 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

I wonder if it'll become a quad with Amy 2.0's brother, bleh.

If Amy's brother is less boring and wooden than Nate (and can actually act), Amy is welcome to Nate with my blessing.

[Asp Burger]

On 11/2/2017 at 11:57 AM, BlancheDevoreaux said:

And let's not forget that his bipolar storyline coincided with the horrible pairing of Sonny and Emily as she was there to help him through the diagnosis. For that reason alone, I will forever hate the bipolar storyline.

What surprised me at the time was not only how bad it was but how unhelpful it was as any kind of consciousness-raising or audience education, considering Maurice pushed for years to get it. Pretty much from the time I started watching General Hospital in the later '90s, I could count on this coming up in MB's interviews as the item highest on his wish list. He would even intimate that he was more likely to re-sign at contract time if he were going to get the long-hoped-for "Sonny's bipolar disorder" story. 

For a long time, various regimes kept him at bay. In GH world, the depressive phases were simply "Sonny's dark place." Then when Pruza finally went there with it and we started hearing clinical terms, they just made it seem that out-of-control bipolar disorder was...an asshole being an even bigger asshole than usual.  

[Neptune]

The Scoop: GH previews, teasers, and spoilers for the Week of November 6, 2017

http://soapcentral.com/gh/content/scoop/spoilers/2017/171106.php

[dubbel zout]

3 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

For a long time, various regimes kept him at bay. In GH world, the depressive phases were simply "Sonny's dark place." Then when Pruza finally went there with it and we started hearing clinical terms, they just made it seem that out-of-control bipolar disorder was...an asshole being an even bigger asshole than usual.  

It certainly didn't help the cause when they had Sonny try to seduce his therapist. (It was Lainey, but still.) And then he laughed it off and said he had to try, that's just who he is. Gross. And of course GH tried to have it both ways: You can't blame Sonny for anything because he's bipolar, but he's on meds so his bipolar is under control. Which, yes, just makes him an asshole, but no.

What a waste that whole story line was.

Edited November 4, 2017 by dubbel zout

[General Days]

On 10/30/2017 at 5:11 PM, HeatLifer said:

Just like some characters are businessmen/women, doctors, lawyers, criminals, psychos, Jason was Sonny's hitman. That is who Guza wanted him to be. Did some fans hate it and want it to change? Yes. Did I think Jason should have eventually progressed and did something else? Sure. I actually thought Jason should have regained all his memories as a Q YEARS AGO and played THAT beat. Alas, that was never in the cards. Who Jason Morgan is? That's who he is at this point. 

I really wanted Billy Miller Jason to get back his Jason Q memories when he got back "his" Stone Cold Jason Morgan memories.

On 11/3/2017 at 11:56 AM, TeeVee329 said:

Next week's spoilers: https://tvsourcemagazine.com/2017/11/general-hospital-spoilers-november-6-10-2017/

So Liz...hasn't dumped Franco for keeping the twin secret?  She's not going to dump him for withholding the information he has about which is which?

I'm worried this means she picks Billy Miller Jason, he's proved to be Drew, and then Steve Burton Jason and/or Carly and Sonny yell at her, blech.

Someone (here, I think, but I can't find it) speculated that both Steve Burton and Billy Miller are an OG Jason. I may have the particulars backwards, but I think it was something like...

Billy Miller is the original Jason Quartermaine. After young AJ and Jason had the life-altering car accident, someone swapped in a brainwashed Steve Burton-Drew as Jason and secreted away Billy Miller-Jason Q for [reasons]. When he woke up, Steve Burton Jason rejected the Q's not just because of his brain damage, but because they hadn't raised him until that point, and so he didn't even have buried feelings for them. He then adopted the Jason Morgan/Stone Cold persona. 

I hated this theory when I first read it, and now I feel completely different. I want to name it, take it home, feed it a Kelly's BLT and love it forever. I want it to be real so that Monica can keep having Billy Miller as her son and doesn't have to worry about the Stone Cold tool.

While fans might be a little pissed at first that Steve Burton isn't the original Jason Q, he would still be the original Stone Cold Jason Morgan -- the love of Carly, Sam, Sonny and Spinelli's lives, and the man with whom both Liz and Robin had a special connection (although Robin would technically have connections to both). 

I love this too much for it to be real, so it can't be.  

[LexieLily]

On ‎11‎/‎3‎/‎2017 at 10:56 AM, TeeVee329 said:

Next week's spoilers: https://tvsourcemagazine.com/2017/11/general-hospital-spoilers-november-6-10-2017/

So Liz...hasn't dumped Franco for keeping the twin secret?  She's not going to dump him for withholding the information he has about which is which?

I'm worried this means she picks Billy Miller Jason, he's proved to be Drew, and then Steve Burton Jason and/or Carly and Sonny yell at her, blech.

Why would Liz dump Franco for a silly thing like that when she hasn't dumped him for any of the other shit he's done? She herself spent the better part of a year withholding the information of who Jake Doe was for her own personal gain. They can laugh about it together. It's couples bonding!

[TeeVee329]

It's just weird to me that the show is presenting Franco's motivation as "Liz will dump me if this twin thing comes out!" and it came out and she...hasn't dumped him.

[ulkis]

1 hour ago, TeeVee329 said:

It's just weird to me that the show is presenting Franco's motivation as "Liz will dump me if this twin thing comes out!" and it came out and she...hasn't dumped him.

Didn't he mean the part about her finding out he was a murderer at three?

[dubbel zout]

If Elizabeth can love him knowing he's a SERIAL KILLER, I really don't see how anything else he's done is going to make her suddenly draw a line. Franco is a whiny, selfish asshole. Gah.

[TeeVee329]

2 hours ago, ulkis said:

Didn't he mean the part about her finding out he was a murderer at three?

Yeah, I guess that is the main thrust of it.  He's worried she'll dump him if his SERIAL KILLER instincts weren't just from the tumor...never mind him the things he's done post-tumor, like kidnapping a man, locking him in a dog cage, and torturing him with a shock collar.

But still...she caught him a big lie that affects her child.  Shouldn't she be reassessing even a little?

Edited November 5, 2017 by TeeVee329

[Melgaypet]

1 hour ago, TeeVee329 said:

But still...she caught him a big lie that affects her child.  Shouldn't she be reassessing even a little?

I would say no, since she doesn't care about that tiny little matter of him kidnapping her newborn out of the hospital, but then I remembered that was just Armand and not Most Precious Jake, so who can say.

Elizabeth Webber doesn't exist anymore. She's just Franco's Girlfriend, a soulless husk.

[TeeVee329]

This week on "Generally Jason":

I'm guessing, because they don't know about the twins stuff, the test will come back that they're both Jason.  Isn't that what happened during the Tale of Two Todds?

Also, Liz being randomly dropped in there felt blatant.

Edited November 6, 2017 by TeeVee329

[Cheyanne11]

The biggest thing I got out of that clip is Becky got her hair cut.

[dubbel zout]

LOL that Jordan thinks a DNA test will clear things up. She's been in PC long enough to know how that goes.

[Chairperson Meow]

2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

This week on "Generally Jason":

I'm guessing, because they don't know about the twins stuff, the test will come back that they're both Jason.  Isn't that what happened during the Tale of Two Todds?

Also, Liz being randomly dropped in there felt blatant.

Yes  lol.  Then we saw not dead Irene who was supposed to be dead for decades.  I really kinda want an undead Susan Moore to tell us the story of JasonxJason.  

[melody16]

I think that might be an old clip of Becky. I recognize the sweater.  

[BF4L]

1 minute ago, melody16 said:

I think that might be an old clip of Becky. I recognize the sweater.  

Her hair is much shorter there. Definitely old.

Anyone saying this is going to be a "You're both Jason Morgan"/OLTL ripoff yet again thing is probably right. This is Frank. He ain't original. 

[IWantCandy71]

I can so totally tell that SBu is a decade or so older than BM with them side by side. I'm happy for anyone fascinated by this story. Just reading the spoilers....LOL Nothing for me to worry about missing. Nada, zero, zilch.

[BF4L]

2 hours ago, IWantCandy71 said:

I can so totally tell that SBu is a decade or so older than BM with them side by side. I'm happy for anyone fascinated by this story. Just reading the spoilers....LOL Nothing for me to worry about missing. Nada, zero, zilch.

Roger looked a lot older than Trevor on OLTL too. It's lazy writing. I've been there. Just just to power through. At least you guys will probably get something afterwards. We got cancellation lol.

[peachmangosteen]

The only thing I have to say about that promo is that BH's hair looks great. And that was an old clip lol.

[TeeVee329]

Not to dare bring logic into it, but doesn't it make some sense that the characters who had plastic surgery - VicTodd and Billy Miller Jason - look younger?

Edited November 7, 2017 by TeeVee329

[BF4L]

4 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Not to dare bring logic into it, but doesn't it make some sense that the characters who had plastic surgery - VicTodd and Billy Miller Jason - look younger?

Damn you logic.

[RedRockRosie]

7 hours ago, BF4L said:

Roger looked a lot older than Trevor on OLTL too. It's lazy writing. I've been there. Just just to power through. At least you guys will probably get something afterwards. We got cancellation lol.

I wish there was a "sad like" for this. I still miss my "peeps" from Llanview. :-(

 

(Kassie is back on days right now. She looks so good & I'm so happy to see her again!)

Edited November 7, 2017 by RedRockRosie

[BF4L]

8 hours ago, RedRockRosie said:

I wish there was a "sad like" for this. I still miss my "peeps" from Llanview. :-(

 

(Kassie is back on days right now. She looks so good & I'm so happy to see her again!)

I'm loving Kassie back on TV again especially after last year and everything she went through. :)

[GHScorpiosRule]

I'm finding that though his eyes are still bootiful, Burton's face is looking very...pasty. At least he's not 'roided up.

I'm just sitting here, counting the days until Kimberly shows up on that bridge as Robin.

What?

[BF4L]

Steve's eyes melt me

[Neptune]

http://abc.soapsindepth.com/posts/general-hospital-spoilers-valentin-anna-146159

[RedRockRosie]

3 hours ago, BF4L said:

I'm loving Kassie back on TV again especially after last year and everything she went through. :)

Me too! I think she looks healthy & fantastic. I was so sad to hear all her problems ...so glad she is better... that woman is amazing! :-)

[TeeVee329]

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#GH - Carly opens her home.  {Nov 22}

This is the episode the day before Thanksgiving and boy do I not like that it sounds like we're going to get a big helping of Carly, Loving Matriarch.  I feel like I also read that Nov. 22 is the first day we see Tamara Braun, which makes me think she is Oscar's mom and Carly invites her and Oscar to dinner.

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#GH - Jason turns to Monica. {Nov 22}

Meanwhile, I think Jason is still referring to Billy Miller in these spoilers so, on Thanksgiving, the only day on the calendar the show gives over to the Q's, Monica gets to have the fake son who it sounds like everyone else abandoned.  Ewww.

Speaking of Q's, what is going on with Dillon?  Didn't they fire RPW a while ago, shouldn't he have been written out by now?

Edited November 8, 2017 by TeeVee329

[Cheyanne11]

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big helping of Carly, Loving Matriarch. 

I can already hear the ubiquitous fake laugh.

[Neptune]

GH NOVEMBER PREVIEW

https://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/gh-november-preview/

[ulkis]

3 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Speaking of Q's, what is going on with Dillon?  Didn't they fire RPW a while ago, shouldn't he have been written out by now?

I think he said his last scenes already aired. I guess we're gonna get a Starr style break up.

[TeeVee329]

1 minute ago, ulkis said:

I think he said his last scenes already aired. I guess we're gonna get a Starr style break up.

Wow, really?  Sadly, it's not that surprising, a fitting level of disrespect for the Q's.  Why should Dillon get an on-screen exit when there are TWO Jason and TWO Carlys! #hate

[BlancheDevoreaux]

10 minutes ago, ulkis said:

I think he said his last scenes already aired. I guess we're gonna get a Starr style break up.

There was so much build up to him and Kiki and were are just going to get a  "oh yeah, we broke up" comment from her and maybe a comment from Monica about how he is off in Europe taking pictures or something. Ugh.  For the life of me, I cannot figure out why the writers don't give the Quartermaines any respect.

[LexieLily]

Why are there rumors floating around that Nina is pregnant? Ugh.

Britt said she was infertile!

[TeeVee329]

1 hour ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

There was so much build up to him and Kiki and were are just going to get a  "oh yeah, we broke up" comment from her and maybe a comment from Monica about how he is off in Europe taking pictures or something. Ugh.  For the life of me, I cannot figure out why the writers don't give the Quartermaines any respect.

Yeah.  I don't think RPW particularly took off as Dillon, but the pairing with Kiki did have a good amount of support.  Having it end with Kiki getting a Dear Keeks letter would be so lame.

[ulkis]

It's possible they might ask him back to tape some dumping scenes, if they ever get around to remembering.

[TeeVee329]

I'm really dreading Q Thanksgiving this year.  We're down two Q's from last year with Tracy and presumably Dillon gone and there'll probably be a bunch of dumb STUFF! with Olivia wrangling with Monica and/or Cook.  Ewww.

[dubbel zout]

I know. I wish Olivia would go back to having visions, preferably of Franco getting hit by a truck.

[peachmangosteen]

6 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Speaking of Q's, what is going on with Dillon?  Didn't they fire RPW a while ago, shouldn't he have been written out by now?

I thought someone said here that they took back the firing and put him on reoccurring. But maybe I imagined that lol.

5 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I can already hear the ubiquitous fake laugh.

Shudder.

57 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Why are there rumors floating around that Nina is pregnant? Ugh.

Wow. Horrible.

2 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

I'm really dreading Q Thanksgiving this year.  We're down two Q's from last year with Tracy and presumably Dillon gone and there'll probably be a bunch of dumb STUFF! with Olivia wrangling with Monica and/or Cook.  Ewww.

Yea, I was thinking I might watch the Thanksgiving ep for the Q's, but it is definitely just gonna be all about Olivia vs. Monica and I'm not into it. Sigh.