Spoilers and Speculation: Clink Boom and Cheese Fondue

[TeeVee329]

Seeing spoilers on Twitter confirming what we all guessed from minute one - Tom Baker's brother Seth is the one who killed him.  Apparently, Franco will be found by Sam and, when Franco realizes that Liz was last seen with Seth, he runs to the rescue.

To quote Sidney Prescott in "Scream 3"...I'VE HEARD THIS SHIT BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LexieLily]

If the stress of all of this sends Sam into labor when she is ANYWHERE near Franco, I will scream.

[LeftPhalange]

8 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Apparently, Franco will be found by Sam

Cancel GH. Cancel it right now and delete this footage before it's allowed to air. 

[dubbel zout]

Wasn't there a rumor that Franco will save Sam from something/someone? 

[TeeVee329]

Was there?  I know that's what we assumed would happen, Franco would do something to save Sam and/or the baby and thus be forgiven.

But it's literally just a rerun of Franco racing to save Carly from Heather, and racing to save Nina from Heather.  WE'VE HEARD THIS SHIT BEFORE!!!!

Edited January 25, 2017 by TeeVee329

[the brother]

42 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Seeing spoilers on Twitter confirming what we all guessed from minute one - Tom Baker's brother Seth is the one who killed him.  Apparently, Franco will be found by Sam and, when Franco realizes that Liz was last seen with Seth, he runs to the rescue.

To quote Sidney Prescott in "Scream 3"...I'VE HEARD THIS SHIT BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My guess was Heather Webber since she likes to provide oral favours to the guards and take afternoon strolls in Port Chuck (off camera of course)

[LexieLily]

49 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Was there?  I know that's what we assumed would happen, Franco would do something to save Sam and/or the baby and thus be forgiven.

But it's literally just a rerun of Franco racing to save Carly from Heather, and racing to save Nina from Heather.  WE'VE HEARD THIS SHIT BEFORE!!!!

The common denominator seems to be Heather.

[Ambrosefolly]

4 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Seeing spoilers on Twitter confirming what we all guessed from minute one - Tom Baker's brother Seth is the one who killed him.  Apparently, Franco will be found by Sam and, when Franco realizes that Liz was last seen with Seth, he runs to the rescue.

To quote Sidney Prescott in "Scream 3"...I'VE HEARD THIS SHIT BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Of course Seth is the one that killed him! I was kind of hoping because so many of us guessed it, it would be someone else. I do wonder if it was from Franco putting that idea in Seth's head that Tom was up to no good even though Franco kidnapped him and placed in a fucking dog cage with a shock collar, Tom going off the deep end after the dog crate incident or a combo of both. But of course Franco will self righteously shake his head about how Seth is also evil like Tom.

[backhometome]

Why did they have to drag Sam into this Tom/Freako shit. 

[Badsamaritan]

31 minutes ago, backhometome said:

Why did they have to drag Sam into this Tom/Freako shit. 

I honestly do not get what Uncle Frank and Jelly are going for here. I haven't seen one single person say they couldn't wait until Sam got involved in this Liez/Freaco mess. No fans of any of these characters have said it, so what the fuck are they doing??? I'm starting to believe they drop acid or 'shrooms or something before they start plotting and writing a story, so all the kudos they imagine they're getting is really just an hallucination.

And then Jean has the nerve to get on twitter and be all 'Women, yay!' while she's writing her female characters to be as pathetic as possible to prop a greasy haired rapist murderhobo. Fuck her, fuck Shelly, fuck Frank, fuck RoHo, and fuck anybody else that's allowing this bullshit to get onscreen.

[LexieLily]

5 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

I honestly do not get what Uncle Frank and Jelly are going for here. I haven't seen one single person say they couldn't wait until Sam got involved in this Liez/Freaco mess. No fans of any of these characters have said it, so what the fuck are they doing??? I'm starting to believe they drop acid or 'shrooms or something before they start plotting and writing a story, so all the kudos they imagine they're getting is really just an hallucination.

And then Jean has the nerve to get on twitter and be all 'Women, yay!' while she's writing her female characters to be as pathetic as possible to prop a greasy haired rapist murderhobo. Fuck her, fuck Shelly, fuck Frank, fuck RoHo, and fuck anybody else that's allowing this bullshit to get onscreen.

It's not doing any service to Sam's character or Liz's character or Franco's, either. So I don't know what they hope to accomplish besides pissing off Sam's fanbase and pretty much the entire audience that ALREADY hates Franco.

[Ambrosefolly]

6 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

I honestly do not get what Uncle Frank and Jelly are going for here. I haven't seen one single person say they couldn't wait until Sam got involved in this Liez/Freaco mess. No fans of any of these characters have said it, so what the fuck are they doing??? I'm starting to believe they drop acid or 'shrooms or something before they start plotting and writing a story, so all the kudos they imagine they're getting is really just an hallucination.

And then Jean has the nerve to get on twitter and be all 'Women, yay!' while she's writing her female characters to be as pathetic as possible to prop a greasy haired rapist murderhobo. Fuck her, fuck Shelly, fuck Frank, fuck RoHo, and fuck anybody else that's allowing this bullshit to get onscreen.

 

 

I think if Frank and Jelly were on drugs, the show would be more interesting.

But in all seriousness, one good way to help women is to turn the one media designed to give actresses a platform, soap operas, back to them or barring that, write truly character driven storylines.

Edited January 26, 2017 by Ambrosefolly

[yowsah1]

15 hours ago, Ambrosefolly said:

Of course Seth is the one that killed him! I was kind of hoping because so many of us guessed it, it would be someone else. 

In all fairness to Jelly, the last time somebody changed a reveal because too many viewers guessed it  (Fluke), it didn't go so well.

[LeftPhalange]

6 minutes ago, yowsah1 said:

In all fairness to Jelly, the last time somebody changed a reveal because too many viewers guessed it  (Fluke), it didn't go so well.

They should've never written this crap in the first place and then they wouldn't have o worry about the audience figuring it out. 

[Melgaypet]

9 hours ago, backhometome said:

Why did they have to drag Sam into this Tom/Freako shit. 

Well, of course they have to have the woman Franco assaulted and terrorized help clear his name! This is yet more proof that Franco Has Changed and Is A Good Man Now (holding a man prisoner in a dog cage with a shock collar is totally the actions of a swoon-worthy hero, it's just silly to think otherwise) and no one, not Sam and not the audience, should hold a grudge over any of that trivial rape or murder or kidnapping.

Vomit. Just....vomit.

[jsbt]

Did anyone not know the rape guy's brother was going to turn out to be the killer? I guessed that a month ago and I haven't watched a full hour of this show since September of '15!

[TeeVee329]

At least it's almost over.  I guess February sweeps will be mostly about the Nelle story?  ...yay?

[dubbel zout]

2 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

 I guess February sweeps will be mostly about the Nelle story?

So I guess Nelle will make more halfhearted threats against Sonny and he'll glare at her and talk about anger? And we still won't find out what she's up to. Riveting.

[LeftPhalange]

4 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

At least it's almost over.  I guess February sweeps will be mostly about the Nelle story?  ...yay?

Is it possible to have negative interest in a story? Like less than zero interest? That's where I'm at with Nelly and the collection of scenes involving her. 

[ulkis]

53 minutes ago, Melgaypet said:

Well, of course they have to have the woman Franco assaulted and terrorized help clear his name! This is yet more proof that Franco Has Changed and Is A Good Man Now (holding a man prisoner in a dog cage with a shock collar is totally the actions of a swoon-worthy hero, it's just silly to think otherwise) and no one, not Sam and not the audience, should hold a grudge over any of that trivial rape or murder or kidnapping.

Vomit. Just....vomit.

The writers seem to think they only have to conciliate Sam fans (and Jasam/Jason fans) to Franco. Er . . . nope. Franco haters come in all shapes and sizes!

31 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

So I guess Nelle will make more halfhearted threats against Sonny and he'll glare at her and talk about anger? And we still won't find out what she's up to. Riveting.

You forgot the part where Michael and Nelle can no longer control their physical passion for each other.

47 minutes ago, jsbt said:

Did anyone not know the rape guy's brother was going to turn out to be the killer? I guessed that a month ago and I haven't watched a full hour of this show since September of '15!

Low bar, but at least it's not Heather?

[LeftPhalange]

8 minutes ago, ulkis said:

You forgot the part where Michael and Nelle can no longer control their physical passion for each other.

55 minutes ago, jsbt said:

Michael and Nelly together would be so hawt. My tv would probably melt because the hawtness was too strong. 

[Melgaypet]

4 minutes ago, ulkis said:

The writers seem to think they only have to conciliate Sam fans (and Jasam/Jason fans) to Franco. Er . . . nope. Franco haters come in all shapes and sizes!

Oh, for sure. I don't even like Sam that much, and I'm grossed out on her behalf. I hate Jason, yet I actively root for him to put a bullet in Franco's skull. I am a Liz fan, and I'm fucking APOPLECTIC over this "relationship."  Hell, as a (former) RoHo fan, Franco bothers me, because I feel like I've watched the man's acting skill devolve. He offends on every possible level.

[dubbel zout]

43 minutes ago, ulkis said:

You forgot the part where Michael and Nelle can no longer control their physical passion for each other.

Lalalalalalalala, I can't hear you!

Edited January 26, 2017 by dubbel zout

[Oracle42]

Even if he weren't a SERIAL KILLER and kidnapper, he used rape as a weapon...TWICE.  And his actual rape victims were incidental to him; he was just using them to hurt someone else. That's some fairly unparalleled malevolent nastiness and a tumor doesn't begin to excuse it -  In no small part because his behavior post-tumor has included: attempted matricide, blackmail, assault, kidnapping, torture and being a creepy whiny git during the entirety of his relationship with Elizabeth

Edited January 27, 2017 by Oracle42

[peachmangosteen]

1 hour ago, ulkis said:

You forgot the part where Michael and Nelle can no longer control their physical passion for each other.

I am actually super curious for their inevitable love scenes. Like I don't really wanna see Nelle's body ever again and poor CD always looks like he would rather get a root canal then go shirtless. It's gonna be awkward as hell, so I'm hoping for some top notch UCG.

[jsbt]

To paraphrase The Grapes of Wrath, whenever Chad is naked and ashamed, I'll be there.

Edited January 26, 2017 by jsbt

[IWantCandy71]

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Wonder who Bobbie's old friend is.

An old john, probably. How......creative.

You people still watching need all the awards.

[peachmangosteen]

40 minutes ago, IWantCandy71 said:

You people still watching need all the awards.

We need something, but I'm not sure it's an award. Psychological help, perhaps.

[LeftPhalange]

I would like a check. 

[ulkis]

http://soaphub.com/general-hospital/general-hospital-spoilers-photos-franco/

spoiler pics

Edited January 27, 2017 by ulkis

[TeeVee329]

I'm sure my reaction to these pictures wasn't supposed to be, "Poor Seth..."

And, ugh, Felix is back.  

Edited January 27, 2017 by TeeVee329

[dubbel zout]

Nice to see Sam finds out her husband is in the hospital.

[ulkis]

"Please don't tell me it's another piece of dashboard up your nose!"

[LexieLily]

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Nina wants what’s best for Charlotte. The question is whether that includes Lulu or not.

Why is Nina acting like she's been Charlotte's stepmother for ten years and gets an opinion on whether Lulu gets a chance to be a mother or not?

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Lulu extends an olive branch to Valentin. Will he accept the truce?

So maybe she did listen to Kevin. Partly.

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After Anna tears into Valentin, Nina questions her motives.

At least Lulu has reasoning for being all intense and "Charlotte is mine!". Nina needs to shut up and take several seats.

[Ambrosefolly]

How badly do I want Seth to walk? So, so badly! I want the courts to declare him innocent by reason of temporary insanity and for him to walk, within full view of Franco, yes even Liz, Sam, Kiki, Jason and Alexis. These people have been excusing thugs and murderers for years, let them feel the injustice.  If Seth had imprisoned Franco somewhere, all the better! Sonny and Franco do horrible, horrible shit all the time, I am sure Seth had a better reason for killing Tom than both of Sonny and Franco. For him to walk away and live a full life somewhere else and for Franco to be forced to suck it up and be great. 

How right was I that Liz would be a marginal player in a story that dealt exclusive from her past? Horribly right, sad to say. Whats worse, this storyline has made Liz look worse in people's eyes and not better.

Edited January 27, 2017 by Ambrosefolly

[TeeVee329]

Next week on "Generally Boring": http://tvsourcemagazine.com/2017/01/general-hospital-spoilers-january-30-february-3-2017-edition/

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After their time apart, Liz and Franco finally reconnect. Liz lays her feelings out for Franco. Will they take the next step in their relationship?

So this whole thing was about Franco and Liz going to bonetown.  NEAT. #eyeroll

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Look for Alexis to have a new obstacle in her recovery in the form of a sponsor with ulterior motives.

Oooh, what if said sponsor was Olivia J.?  That'd be kinda soapy.

Edited January 27, 2017 by TeeVee329

[LexieLily]

16 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Next week on "Generally Boring": http://tvsourcemagazine.com/2017/01/general-hospital-spoilers-january-30-february-3-2017-edition/

So this whole thing was about Franco and Liz going to bonetown.  NEAT. #eyeroll

Jesus Christ, that Liz/Franco spoiler makes it sound like Elizabeth was on vacation for months and finally came home to Franco waiting for her. Not the actual truth that Elizabeth emotionally manipulated Sam, Franco's victim, into helping to clear him of a murder charge he very well could have committed.

[Oracle42]

1 hour ago, LexieLily said:

Nina wants what’s best for Charlotte. The question is whether that includes Lulu or not.

Shut up, Nina

 

1 hour ago, LexieLily said:

After Anna tears into Valentin, Nina questions her motives.

Shut up again and forever

[LexieLily]

And Nina thinks *Lulu* is being selfish in regards to Charlotte? The only reason Lulu is being intense and overbearing is because Nina is (probably) egging Valentin on to make it difficult for Lulu to bond with Charlotte and is (more than likely) purposefully damaging the potential bonding between Charlotte and anyone other than her. Nina is acting as if Lulu intentionally abandoned Charlotte at birth. Does Nina even know the story of Charlotte's...creation?

[LeftPhalange]

Please just kill the stupid embryo off so we can move on. 

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After their time apart, Liz and Franco finally reconnect. Liz lays her feelings out for Franco. Will they take the next step in their relationship?

Shut the fuck up.

Edited January 27, 2017 by LeftPhalange

[Badsamaritan]

Hot Orderly is back. Can he put the rapist murderhobo in a choke hold again? I'd watch that shit all day and twice on Sunday.  I'm noticing, he's a tall drink of water too, considering RP is what? Six feet tall? And Hot Orderly looks like he could chop Tree down with his bare hands. Me likey.

The less said about that dirty, murdering fuckstick man child known as Freaco, the better.

 

[yowsah1]

8 hours ago, LexieLily said:

Jesus Christ, that Liz/Franco spoiler makes it sound like Elizabeth was on vacation for months and finally came home to Franco waiting for her. Not the actual truth that Elizabeth emotionally manipulated Sam, Franco's victim, into helping to clear him of a murder charge he very well could have committed.

Why am I not surprised that Jelly went out of their way to write a scene that trashes Liz in order to build up Saint Sam the Eternally Perfect Pet?

#Cancel GH.

[ulkis]

RP looks like he's an inch or two below 6 feet to me.

[IWantCandy71]

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We need something, but I'm not sure it's an award. Psychological help, perhaps.

Nah. I think any of you watching are obviously loyal people. I sometimes think I have more than a touch of ADD, and/or I just get bored extremely quickly/easily. Like, in a heartbeat, if something doesn't grab my attention *and* keep it (keeping it is key, otherwise, for me there's no point in bothering). Even when I had interesting characters that I liked, getting a story and focus, I still skipped through most of the other stuff. I've never been a "GH" fan-I've always just been a "character"/actor fan. Whereas with soaps like DOOL and even OLTL at times in the past, I've been able to sit and watch the whole show. But literally almost never, have I done that with GH. So, I think I'm not the best person to judge the overall quality,  even if I were watching. Most of the celebrated couples, storylines and characters on this show have-surprise-bored me. So if anything, it's a problem with MY brain, or my impatience, than it is yours. :)

 

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I would like a check. 

Sweetie, you deserve it. I wish I could write you one. New T-Shirt, by the way. :)

[apbr]

I don't understand some of you guys.  Why cancel GH?  Just turn the channel and stop watching!  They would just replace it with another "lifestyle" or "talking head" show and there are way too many of those now.  I'm sorry to admit it, but GH is better than a lot of the stuff on and I'd rather watch it than another Chew or something.

[WendyCR72]

Let's just remember that everyone is entitled to their opinion with no justification required. If people choose to explain, fine. But it isn't mandatory. However, for those wanting the cancellation in terms of a discussion, please take that to the Wishlist thread as the "Hoping For A Cure (Or Not)" is for this exact scenario. (One-off comments about anyone's opinion are okay in the other threads... Just don't derail and all is cool!)

Thanks!

[IWantCandy71]

19 hours ago, apbr said:

I don't understand some of you guys.  Why cancel GH?  Just turn the channel and stop watching!  They would just replace it with another "lifestyle" or "talking head" show and there are way too many of those now.  I'm sorry to admit it, but GH is better than a lot of the stuff on and I'd rather watch it than another Chew or something.

Oh, I don't really care if the show is cancelled or not. I already don't really watch. Only on those rare times when someone I care about is on, which is.....almost never. That's why I rarely post. I feel that if there are people that enjoy this mess, that's their business and their opinion. I am not judging.

To keep it on spoiler topic-I do think Ned and Tracy are supposed to be sharing some scenes coming up, does anyone here know what those are about? Anything interesting, or just filler ?

[dubbel zout]

Maybe it has to do with JE's rumored retirement. Tracy should have some scenes with her son(s) before JE goes, but with this group of writers, nothing logical is certain.

[ulkis]

No they are definitely having scenes together, one of the writers tweeted about writing it.

[the brother]

Morgan died around Halloween right? Monday, January 30, 2017 and no one cares about the Ava-swapped-the-pills storyline? Lucy blackmail angle? Scotty?? Carly's investigation etc?