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You know, for all the talk we've been hearing that "Roger's re-signed!!", none of it seems to have come from any of the barely reputable sources out there.  I would think that, if indeed he did re-up, before the ink was dry on the contract, Frank would have run to one of his cronies and they would be shouting it from the rooftops with the chorus of angels they believed news such as this deserves.  So, until I hear otherwise, I will continue to think The CW has got the bulk of the man's time and he's just hanging around until his plot point of a joke of a character can be dropped.  Permanently and from the top of the Freedom Tower.

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Is that NLG in the gray jacket/white dress?

 

Per the opening credits, there are is a giant "G" and "H" near the top of the building. They have a hospital entrance set.  I don't care how bad the cgi is, this needs to happen!

 

ETA: Anna, Carly, Ava and Tracy must on scene when it happens because FH, LW, MW, and JE are the queens of awesome facial expressions.

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Is that NLG in the gray jacket/white dress?

 

Per the opening credits, there are is a giant "G" and "H" near the top of the building. They have a hospital entrance set.  I don't care how bad the cgi is, this needs to happen!

 

Yep! And obviously Jon Lindstrom. It's funny to watch old clips and be like, "Oh my God I forgot so and so was on this show too!"

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Now that's a way to go out. Kill Kiki that way! Kill her violently and gloriously.

 

That works for me. Even if she is murdered I can't see Silas asking Sam to investigate. I think the show finally learned its lesson on trying to recapture something that might have worked for a small audience more than a decade ago.

I feel that I am the only person that doesn't to see someone else killed violently (again). I guess I don't hate Kiki as others do. I don't like her, she just kind of there for me. Of course, I might be the few people that doesn't put the failings of Kiki/Michael at Kristen Alderson's feet. 

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I'm sure they aren't gonna go out of their way to try to make him mad. But they're going to just write the story without Chad Duell's opinion in mind.

 

I am pretty sure he can't go to B&B right now. I don't know when Chad signed a new contract but he must have done it in either May 2013 or May of last year, so I am willing to bet he's stuck for a while on GH either way.

 

I am sure that Ron and Frank love KA, and she has a job whenever she wants one. However, considering the way RC and FV have pissed all over GF, TR, SK, KDP, and numerous other soap vets who actually can act and actually do have large fan bases that follow them, I can't imagine ticking off CD or not is even a blip on their radar screen.

I'm not sure I'm convinced ME or RH are going anywhere anytime soon. I know they are considered "big fish" in the soap genre, but that's really all they are. They're both middle-aged,average (when measured against prime time) actors, who have spent pretty much their entire careers in a dying genre. Where else are they ever going to get a full-time gig? They've got bills too; they're lifers AFAIC. The only way I see either of them leaving GH willingly is if they go to another soap.

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I am sure that Ron and Frank love KA, and she has a job whenever she wants one. However, considering the way RC and FV have pissed all over GF, TR, SK, KDP, and numerous other soap vets who actually can act and actually do have large fan bases that follow them, I can't imagine ticking off CD or not is even a blip on their radar screen.

I'm not sure I'm convinced ME or RH are going anywhere anytime soon. I know they are considered "big fish" in the soap genre, but that's really all they are. They're both middle-aged,average (when measured against prime time) actors, who have spent pretty much their entire careers in a dying genre. Where else are they ever going to get a full-time gig? They've got bills too; they're lifers AFAIC. The only way I see either of them leaving GH willingly is if they go to another soap.

 

I am not completely convinced ME will have a say in this.

I might be the few people that doesn't put the failings of Kiki/Michael at Kristen Alderson's feet.

 

I put it all at Ron's feet. Lauren has been pointless since the moment she appeared. She has no money, no job, no place to live. Ron shoves her into situations she has no business being in. I don't know how any actor makes that work. That doesn't excuse KA's bad acting—she's very unconvincing as an ingénue—but the character was poorly thought out from the get-go. That's not on KA.

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I am sure that Ron and Frank love KA, and she has a job whenever she wants one. 

 

Maybe in the past, but I doubt that's the case now. The OLTL/GH experiment has ended in a debacle and KA was unpopular as Kiki. I don't think ABC would allow them to bring her back on contract a third time. And yeah, they don't give a shit what most actors think, including Chad Duell. I love Chad and think he's done great work lately and deserves a higher profile, but he is a nobody in terms of fame. He is a young kid GH plucked out of obscurity and gave steady work and he has zero power over them. The only people who play that kind of hardball with Frank are major soap vets or stars, and most of them lose the game because he doesn't give a shit.

 

And I think both ME and FV want ME out.

 

I think that's hilarious that they (allegedly) asked her to take a paycut and she said no. What the hell was she making? Every vet on every show these guys have run - Erika Slezak, TG - has taken major cuts. I'm sure even Roger Howarth did when he first returned to ABC. They're probably still paying him way too much now.

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I also think ME days are numbered. I thought ME & KM were super popular but RC has totally killed that pairing. Easton & Monaco have good chemestry but all of the sudden Silas is all pro Ava Jerome & hasn't been in a scene with Sam in ages. They seem to be going full throttle with Sam & Patrick. I'm not if RC got bored with Michael Easton or if RC/FV sort of know that Easton will be gone sooner than later. I'm not even sure how you redeem characters like Franco & Nina & Ava. They are all bunch of murderes. They are all great actors (some like/hate them but they can act) but RC seems to have written them into a serious corner. IMO!

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Now that's a way to go out. Kill Kiki that way! Kill her violently and gloriously.

 

Michael: they told me to go to room 203. (they go upstairs)

Michael: Wait a second, that's the morgue! Morgan, why didn't they tell us Kiki was in the morgue?!

Morgan: Whatever a morgue is, I'm sure it's no big deal Mikey.

 

ETA: Yay, only about a week more of taping according to that article.

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I'm not even sure how you redeem characters like Franco & Nina & Ava. They are all bunch of murderes. They are all great actors (some like/hate them but they can act) but RC seems to have written them into a serious corner. IMO!

 

And yet, this show revolved/revolves around Sonny and Jason. Are they not murderers? I think it's easy to redeem all of them actually. They're already halfway there with Nina, unfortunately. It's extremely easy to get Ava out of jail, and Franco has already been "redeemed" once, even though it didn't exactly take. Dr. O is the COS, it really shouldn't be any big deal for the rest of them to shed their labels.

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And yet, this show revolved/revolves around Sonny and Jason. Are they not murderers? I think it's easy to redeem all of them actually. They're already halfway there with Nina, unfortunately. It's extremely easy to get Ava out of jail, and Franco has already been "redeemed" once, even though it didn't exactly take. Dr. O is the COS, it really shouldn't be any big deal for the rest of them to shed their labels.

 

 

They haven't been redeemed as far as I'm concern, not matter how much RC wants to shove it down my throat. I don't care if Nina is crazy, you can't tell me she is a gentle, troubled heart when I see scenes of drugging, inducing premature labor and kidnapping a newborn while leaving the mother to die, and I'm not even an Ava fan.In America, you actually spend twice as much time in the nuthouse than in prison if they deem you crazy, because you aren't paying a debt to society, they want to make sure you won't kill anyone because you are being instructed by fairies. It is no different when they had Luke kill his toddler grandson with his car but didn't even give so much a slap on the rest. He freaking family rushed around to hold his hand, give him an intervention and bullied Lucky into forgiving him.

 

As for the show revolving and twisting itself into pretzels justifying Sonny and Jason, the show was worse off for it. 

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As for the show revolving and twisting itself into pretzels justifying Sonny and Jason, the show was worse off for it.

 

Oh trust me, I am with you on that. I just think that it's just going along with what they've continued to show for years and years.

 

As for Nina, they'll downplay everything that she did as no big deal, because it was Ava. I don't agree with it at all, but it's not going to stop them from throwing her at us for the next however long she's signed for.

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Peter Caspen was the name that Fluke used when he first met Julian. Someone on another board said that if you rearrange the letters in that name, you get Pat Spenser.

 

Oh shit . . .

 

I can definitely Ron wanting to write and Tony wanting to play deranged transsexual lesbian, but I'd hope Frank, Nathan Varni, Vicki Dummer, somebody would be smart enough to say "no".

 

I feel that I am the only person that doesn't to see someone else killed violently (again). I guess I don't hate Kiki as others do. I don't like her, she just kind of there for me. Of course, I might be the few people that doesn't put the failings of Kiki/Michael at Kristen Alderson's feet.

 

I don't like Kiki and think she's useless, but I don't hate her. She's just there...doing nothing. I mostly find her inoffensive. There are numerous characters that I actively hate that I would have rather seen go before her. This show has so many problems that I doubt getting rid of Kiki is going to do much good. KA's salary is probably going to be used to bring on two or three more useless newbies who are even worse than Kiki.

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Kassie de Paiva said she hopes that KA can come to Days.

 

That wouldn't be a bad place for her.  I think the writing at DOOL favors an actress with KA's type of skills more than the writing at GH.  This, after all, was the soap where Allison Sweeney actually performed a crying scene by going, "Oh, boo hoo".  But they stuck with her and worked with her and she eventually emerged as one of the shows top stars.  Which brings me to my next reason why DAYS may be a good place for her - unlike FV and RC, who coddled her waaaaaay too much, the DAYS folks might actually work with and push Alderson into developing her acting skills.

 

Roger Howarth just re-signed his contract, I believe, though I didn't know as quickly as I'd hoped since the skies didn't rain blood as I thought they would to mark the day. Michael Easton is reaching the end of his. If there is one of the characters we will be stuck with to the last, it will be the worst of them all.

 

You're right there.  Maurice Bernard re-signed.  ;)

 

I feel that I am the only person that doesn't to see someone else killed violently (again). 

 

I'll take a seat at the "don't kill someone off again" table.  And it's not even because I don't hate KA the way other's do, it's because it's absolutely ridiculous to kill off characters right and left, like the only way to leave Port Charles is toes-up.  Just have Kiki decide it's time to move on and have her leave.  Then move on with the other stories.

 

Yay, only about a week more of taping according to that article.

 

Wow, that makes me wonder if she didn't pull the old trick of "backdate your notice that you are quitting by two weeks".

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If she dies, then it screws up Micheal being a Quartermaine. She will most likely get an exit story because well opportunity and who she is to Frank/Ron. Most likely, I'm guessing Kiki will disappear due to Fluke to send a message to Ava/Julian. They'll probably mean to get Lucas, but grab her. It would be hilarious if Johnny purposely botched a hit on Micheal or Morgan, but took out Kiki instead. He's about the only one I think could get away with botching a hit and survive crazy Fluke.

I'll take a seat at the "don't kill someone off again" table.  And it's not even because I don't hate KA the way other's do, it's because it's absolutely ridiculous to kill off characters right and left, like the only way to leave Port Charles is toes-up.  Just have Kiki decide it's time to move on and have her leave.  Then move on with the other stories.

 

 

I agree with this one hundred percent.  It's so lazy and short-sighted to kill off almost every departing character.  People move, go away for work or school, etc.  I'm not saying that Kiki is a long term character they need to keep viable, but I'm just so sick of everyone who leaves PC doing so in a body bag.  Just have Kiki grow up and decide that it's not healthy to keep ping-ponging back and forth between two brothers, and just leave town for a fresh start.  Or say she developed an interest in some field for a career and applied to an out of state university.  

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I'm not advocating killing off all characters, just Kiki. I actually see the potential to get rid of several unnecessary characters with her death. Franco and Ava are both in prison but asked to be transferred since it is too painful to be around Port Charles. It turns out that Kiki really was Silas and Nina's daughter so they both leave town following her death.

 

There - 5 characters gone with one death.

 

I would also like to see Sabrina finally have the complete breakdown we know is coming. Carlos and Felix takes her out of town for treatment and, voila, another three characters gone.

 

See, I got rid of 8 characters while only killing off one. As always YMMV.

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I think if KA is ever brought on again, it would be as part of a Starr/Todd package (if GH gets back the rights from PP).  This makes Kiki completely expendable.

 

However, I'm not a fan of killing off characters just to get rid of them.  It's a hypocritical permanent exit on the part of the show.  At this point it's just stupid for anyone in Port Charles to think of death as anything other than a temporary inconvenience. I'm just tired of watching people randomly killed.  

 

You have to give credit to GH for a special accomplishment here - they've managed to make death boring and violence annoying.

 

If Kiki has to leave, have her take the baby to raise and go live with Delia.  She'll have to get a job in the bar but it will be good for her, especially since it would be a fabulous place to overhear secrets and gossip/lie about it.  I can see a character like Kiki becoming exactly like her mother in the long run - but - we don't have to watch it.

 

Everyone can forget about her until little Avery grows up and comes to town as a spoiler in Spencer and Emma's romance, while having a fling with bad boy Cameron (who takes after his father.  I still miss Zander).

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