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Yes, please.  That is what we want.  Serial killers helping single mothers how to get revenge on their enemies.   And in between  that we'd  like a middle aged, nearing  elderly mobster stutterbark threats at everyone and wave guns around like they're  candy.  Also, can we please have more murder, kidnapping, and homages to rape?  Thanks Enlightened Thoughtful Proud Female Caring Writers.  You  totes have your fingers on the pulse of the world.  

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15 minutes ago, Chairperson Meow said:

Yes, please.  That is what we want.  Serial killers helping single mothers how to get revenge on their enemies.

You mean "enemies." Ugh, when will the writers accept that neither Hayden nor Elizabeth have the moral high ground where the other's concerned? Watching them fight is so boring.

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3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

You mean "enemies." Ugh, when will the writers accept that neither Hayden nor Elizabeth have the moral high ground where the other's concerned? Watching them fight is so boring.

That's  true.  I forgot that they literally  have no reason to fight.  Why does Liz give a hoot nor hollar about any lies Hayden may or may not have told? Where was this concern  when Robin "left for Paris suddenly " , abandoning her husband  and child after returning from the dead?  If Liz put  half the time she wasted on penis into  actual friends who care about her, then she'd be way better off.  And I like Liz.  I like RoHo too, but I cannot endorse this tale of perpetuating rape is okay.  Because every Franco story pretty much endorses that unless he's dead or in prison.  We shouldn't  have to pretend we are watching another imaginary character to enjoy a show.  

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This show better do something soon to capture my interest. I really like Killon but they alone are not worth it and the show stupidly refuses to use Jane Elliot and Wally Kurth. I don't have any interest in watching Tracy prop Finn once every two weeks. Might be time to take another break for a while.

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I can support Dillon/Lauren. They have potential. But for the love all that is holy in SOAPS, please have her renounce her stupid nickname, Kiki. She isn't 13, she is supposed to be a 20 something adult who was aiming for a good job. Why the hell she isn't starting her own business or in school is baffling. She has Silas' money and Jerome money. Slumming it at the Metrocourt is just plain lazy writing. Of course, I'm still wondering when Nina is going to ask Franco and Lauren to get the hell out of her condo/apartment or Lare needs to buy it back. Nina paid out for that place, right?

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But for the love all that is holy in SOAPS, please have her renounce her stupid nickname, Kiki. She isn't 13, she is supposed to be a 20 something adult who was aiming for a good job.

I don't think it's that big of a deal. There are some actual famous Kikis. Kiki Dee the singer (born Pauline) was the only one who came immediately to mind, but there's also a poet, Kiki Petrosino, and an artist, Kiki Smith. The latter is in her sixties and quite accomplished. How is it any worse than "Jax" and "Lucky"? Neither of those two started going by anything else when they hit a certain age, despite sounding like things you'd drop off at the kennel.

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She doesn't have the look or flair to pull off "Lauren" anyway. She looks and acts like a "Kiki," leave it be until a better actress and storyline comes along and then, maybe.

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2 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

I don't think it's that big of a deal. There are some actual famous Kikis. Kiki Dee the singer (born Pauline) was the only one who came immediately to mind, but there's also a poet, Kiki Petrosino, and an artist, Kiki Smith. The latter is in her sixties and quite accomplished. How is it any worse than "Jax" and "Lucky"? Neither of those two started going by anything else when they hit a certain age, despite sounding like things you'd drop off at the kennel.

Jax and Lucky aren't hard on the ears to hear or mouth to say. "KeeKee" is. It's painful.

Kiki also is usually an endearing nickname. And she hasn't earned that level of closeness with half the characters that call her that name or with the audience.

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Kiki was the name of one of the puppets on the Puzzle Place. As long as I remember that, the other Kiki doesn't matter to me.

 

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I may have seen Kiki's first day, when Alderson (whom I can't stand) played her. Didn't she say "My name's Lauren, but my friends call me Kiki"? I vaguely remember something about an attempt to scam college kids with a card game. My minding the character at all (the name or anything else about her) kind of went away with the recasting, although I joined way in progress with the current one. 

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They've totally backtracked on the scam-artist aspect of Lauren, though she still calls Morgan by a nickname that is even more annoying than her own.

And color me continuingly, genuinely shocked that I actually am enjoying Lauren and Dillon. We should be seeing them more than once every fortnight.

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3 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

I don't think it's that big of a deal. There are some actual famous Kikis. Kiki Dee the singer (born Pauline) was the only one who came immediately to mind, but there's also a poet, Kiki Petrosino, and an artist, Kiki Smith. The latter is in her sixties and quite accomplished. How is it any worse than "Jax" and "Lucky"? Neither of those two started going by anything else when they hit a certain age, despite sounding like things you'd drop off at the kennel.

Jax is just a play off of his last name of Jacks. His first name is Jasper.  Who wants to use that in comparison?  And Lucky is a junior. And he has a cousin with the same first name, Lucas. He isn't working in a professional white collar career either. Who the hell knows what he does for a job nowadays anyway? His last gig was a cop at the PCPD. Maybe if he was in an office/white collar career he would be Lucas Spencer around the office.

Kiki as a nickname to use outside of family/childhood friends is simply ridiculous. The same goes for Lucky. But he isn't around any non family/friend for us to see how he interacts with a complete stranger.

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8 hours ago, stlbf said:

She has Silas' money and Jerome money. 

Did something happen where she didn't get Silas' money or something? I feel like I vaguely remember something like that. I wasn't actually watching during the Silas murder mystery though so I might be making that up.

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16 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Did something happen where she didn't get Silas' money or something? I feel like I vaguely remember something like that. I wasn't actually watching during the Silas murder mystery though so I might be making that up.

I was watching, and I can't bother to remember. Oh, yeah. They said Silas' money was tied up for reasons. 

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So, we have a former ATWT writer cramming former ATWT stars into this show, yet the idiot has MW and can't /won't write a decent story for her when she's been on this show for years?  What's next?  Casting Martha Byrne and what's his face who played Jack?  Go for GL cast members too.  

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37 minutes ago, Chairperson Meow said:

 What's next?  Casting Martha Byrne

You're 7 years late there. She played the mayor's murdering wife in 2009 where Scrubs played detectives (they tried to find the real killer of the mayor's mistress when Patrick was accused of malpractice in her death - mind you, this Brianna Hughes was never really seen...). Sounds corny - and it was - but KMc/JT seemed to have fun with it.

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From the spoilers posted here:

Jason comes to Sam’s rescue.

Well, I see they've ceased to bother to come up with anything new or interesting to do with the show's most boring couple.

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Got the latest copy of SOD today, featuring the preview of the summer stories for all the soaps.  Here's a paraphrase/summary of what they have for GH:

SONNY/CARLY:  Sonny will team up with Anna (WHYYYYYYYY?!?!?!) and the cops to bring down Julian, and will also be interfering in his children's lives.  Carly will be teaming up with Finn to look into a "medical mystery" involving Joss (the kidney thing, I presume).

ALEXIS/JULIAN:  Love and loyalty put to the test with "explosive consequences" (knowing these writers, I bet that's literal - something with blow up during sweeps) to the couple, Alexis personally, and their family.

SAM/JASON: Their attempt to clear Jason of murdering Nik leads them to an adventure with "unlikely companions" and far-reaching consequences.  (If this show actually shows anything having consequences, I will eat my hat).

ELIZABETH:  Gets the "unlikeliest of suitors" (i.e., Franco).  Franco's past and his problems will be a stumbling block.  (Because God forbid a story about Liz be about Liz).

NINA:  Reconsiders her relationship to Franco, her career advances, and she goes undercover as a journalist and uncovers some big story.  Also, she has "new romantic possibilities" (i.e., they are going to chem test her with different actors).

LAURA/KEVIN:  Laura's bequest from Helena "leads her on a puzzling journey through her romantic past" (i.e., Luke And Laura's Greatest Hits ain't over yet).  Kevin stands by her during all this.

HOSPITAL MYSTERY/FINN:  Lots of GH staff members become suspects besides Finn, meanwhile, other mysteries about Finn come into play.

LULU/DANTE:  Have "a new adventure in an unlikely place".

KRISTINA:  Kristina and Aaron grow closer, but Parker gets in the way.

ANNA:  Remains committed to bringing down Julian (Oh God, not more #Justice4Dewq bullshittery), and moving on with her personal life.  (Aren't those two things mutually exclusive at this point?).

PAUL:  Has two goals: Bringing down Julian and getting Anna.

TRACY:  Tracy and an unexpected ally join forces to help Finn.

SABRINA/MICHAEL:  Somebody from Sabrina's past shows up to disrupt things between her and Michael.

AVA:  Ava makes an choice regarding Avery.  (She gives her to Sonny.  We all know she's going to give her to Sonny because Sonny never loses.  Please.  Why they even tease this is beyond me, it's such a given).  Afterward, she gets swept up in an adventure with people she never expected to be involved with.

HAYDEN/NAOMI:  Hayden will get involved with Finn in an effort to atone for the sins of her father.  Naomi will drop clues that impact other people in Port Charles.

MAXIE/NATHAN:  The threat of Claudette will grow for them.

GRIFFIN:  He'll try to keep his past a secret, but the truth will come out anyway.  His connection to Nathan will be revealed.

DILLON/KIKI/MORGAN:  Kiki's loyalty to Morgan keep fouling up her romance with Dillon.

JORDAN/ANDRE:  Jordan and Andre grow closer, and big secret from Jordan's past comes to light.

CURTIS:  Curtis gets hired by Nina.  His past relationship with Jordan comes to light.

VALERIE:  Valerie becomes a cop, dates Curtis, and gets pulled into the hospital murder mystery.

MOLLY/TJ:  TJ is affected by the reveal of Jordan's Big Secret and draws closer to Curtis.  Molly keeps bagging on Alexis.

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13 minutes ago, yowsah1 said:

Got the latest copy of SOD today, featuring the preview of the summer stories for all the soaps.  Here's a paraphrase/summary of what they have for GH:

SABRINA/MICHAEL:  Somebody from Sabrina's past shows up to disrupt things between her and Michael.

Half of me is saying, "Please, please, please let it be Carlos's identical cousin with whom Sabrina was once involved." 

And the other half of me is grumbling, "Why do you want to condemn an actor with actual talent to a black hole in which the amount of screen time one gets is in reverse proportion to his or her ability?"

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Let me guess....Curtis is actually TJ's father.  That's the only story I have any interest in, but the actors are black, so they'll be on about collectively a week all summer.  

All I want for the MSt's next love interest is Nina/Sonny.  Nonny 

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21 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said:

Jesus. Every last bit of that sounds awful. Every. Bit.

They should just air BTS drama as a reality show. I wouldn't doubt that the ratings would improve. 

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1 hour ago, Chairperson Meow said:

I suppose Dante will be tailing either Hayden or New Nik?  Or will they not act like he looks totally different?  And ugh.  Sounds like Sonny will interfere in the only good thing- Kiki/Dillon.  

 

Fuck off Sonny.

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9 minutes ago, yowsah1 said:

Got the latest copy of SOD today, featuring the preview of the summer stories for all the soaps.  Here's a paraphrase/summary of what they have for GH:

SONNY/CARLY:  Sonny will team up with Anna (WHYYYYYYYY?!?!?!) and the cops to bring down Julian, and will also be interfering in his children's lives.  Carly will be teaming up with Finn to look into a "medical mystery" involving Joss (the kidney thing, I presume).

ALEXIS/JULIAN:  Love and loyalty put to the test with "explosive consequences" (knowing these writers, I bet that's literal - something with blow up during sweeps) to the couple, Alexis personally, and their family.

SAM/JASON: Their attempt to clear Jason of murdering Nik leads them to an adventure with "unlikely companions" and far-reaching consequences.  (If this show actually shows anything having consequences, I will eat my hat).

ELIZABETH:  Gets the "unlikeliest of suitors" (i.e., Franco).  Franco's past and his problems will be a stumbling block.  (Because God forbid a story about Liz be about Liz).

NINA:  Reconsiders her relationship to Franco, her career advances, and she goes undercover as a journalist and uncovers some big story.  Also, she has "new romantic possibilities" (i.e., they are going to chem test her with different actors).

LAURA/KEVIN:  Laura's bequest from Helena "leads her on a puzzling journey through her romantic past" (i.e., Luke And Laura's Greatest Hits ain't over yet).  Kevin stands by her during all this.

HOSPITAL MYSTERY/FINN:  Lots of GH staff members become suspects besides Finn, meanwhile, other mysteries about Finn come into play.

LULU/DANTE:  Have "a new adventure in an unlikely place".

KRISTINA:  Kristina and Aaron grow closer, but Parker gets in the way.

ANNA:  Remains committed to bringing down Julian (Oh God, not more #Justice4Dewq bullshittery), and moving on with her personal life.  (Aren't those two things mutually exclusive at this point?).

PAUL:  Has two goals: Bringing down Julian and getting Anna.

TRACY:  Tracy and an unexpected ally join forces to help Finn.

SABRINA/MICHAEL:  Somebody from Sabrina's past shows up to disrupt things between her and Michael.

AVA:  Ava makes an choice regarding Avery.  (She gives her to Sonny.  We all know she's going to give her to Sonny because Sonny never loses.  Please.  Why they even tease this is beyond me, it's such a given).  Afterward, she gets swept up in an adventure with people she never expected to be involved with.

HAYDEN/NAOMI:  Hayden will get involved with Finn in an effort to atone for the sins of her father.  Naomi will drop clues that impact other people in Port Charles.

MAXIE/NATHAN:  The threat of Claudette will grow for them.

GRIFFIN:  He'll try to keep his past a secret, but the truth will come out anyway.  His connection to Nathan will be revealed.

DILLON/KIKI/MORGAN:  Kiki's loyalty to Morgan keep fouling up her romance with Dillon.

JORDAN/ANDRE:  Jordan and Andre grow closer, and big secret from Jordan's past comes to light.

CURTIS:  Curtis gets hired by Nina.  His past relationship with Jordan comes to light.

VALERIE:  Valerie becomes a cop, dates Curtis, and gets pulled into the hospital murder mystery.

MOLLY/TJ:  TJ is affected by the reveal of Jordan's Big Secret and draws closer to Curtis.  Molly keeps bagging on Alexis.

 

Of course Sonny has to win. At everything. And they no have to finish with their attempt to destroy the awesomeness of Anna at the alter of Sonny.

Lauren needs to seek professional help. What kind of warped person keeps coming back to a person who actively and wantonly hurts her over and over again. Dillon could be perfect for her and I think that she would self sabotage their relationship.  She really does have some major self esteem issues. A guy has chosen to fuck your mother(including when believing she was another person, aka Aunt Denise) and others while in a relationship with you. You ain't starcrossed lovers cheated by bad luck. You are in a sick toxic relationship. If Lauren had any non Corinthos related girlfriends around, then maybe someone would point this shit out and help her.

Anna isn't too far behind Lauren. Duke chose to be a mob boss stand in for fuck's sake. He was no innocent lamb. And now working with Duke's scumbag boss? Sickening. 

Why in the world would a story with Liz, ever be about Liz? We can't even get her and Jason investigating what the hell happened to Jake for the years he was kidnapped. Nope. Jason has to be more invested in his pissing contest with Franco and Nik. And Liz is more concerned about Jason being happy with her and ragging on Haychel to protect Nik.

Nina is going to be a real journalist.  Earned her degree from an online school!  

So I guess Tracy will be teaming up with Snarly to help Dr. Michael Easton MorleyClayMcBainFinn.

Could not possibly care less about anything Sabrina/notMichael related. Well, maybe Valerie related news.

And poor Kristina. Her new boy toy has to be a plant. Or a weird devote religious guy. Which I would find different. But I'd put the smart money on him being a mole or wanting revenge.

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PAUL:  Has two goals: Bringing down Julian and getting Anna.

Disgusting, please die. Or severely retool this character, Richard Burgi is being wasted. The writing for him makes absolutely no sense beyond rationalizing it as, Paul Hornsby is a snake like all former Paul Satterfield characters. Which I have no problem with as a rationale, but ugh.

SABRINA/MICHAEL:  Somebody from Sabrina's past shows up to disrupt things between her and Michael.

For fuck's sake. This time it'll be some dude named Hector who sings all his lines and he'll be here til 2018 making googly eyes and literally eating furniture on-camera, that's the only way to top fuckin' Carlos, future Uber driver.

HAYDEN/NAOMI:  Hayden will get involved with Finn in an effort to atone for the sins of her father.  Naomi will drop clues that impact other people in Port Charles.

a.k.a., Frank wants to pair Easton and Budig. Another superstar match! Recipe for disaster that has nothing whatsoever with GH's core and which will destroy Finn's super-unlikely potential as one of the few characters I enjoy.

[Nina] goes undercover as a journalist and uncovers some big story

I wish I was dead.

Molly keeps bagging on Alexis.

LOOOLLLLLL

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1 hour ago, yowsah1 said:

NINA:  Reconsiders her relationship to Franco, her career advances, and she goes undercover as a journalist and uncovers some big story.  Also, she has "new romantic possibilities" (i.e., they are going to chem test her with different actors).

So they've just given up on Nina and MSt is going to be Phyllis again? I guess that means Maxie will go back to "event planning" now that she's no longer needed to stand around and be awed by Nina's brilliant and innovative plans for saving Crimson, again, some more.

1 hour ago, yowsah1 said:

SABRINA/MICHAEL:  Somebody from Sabrina's past shows up to disrupt things between her and Michael.

Dammit! Why can't I just have Sate? I could hit the mute button and pretend Sabrina/Nate were characters that I care about while objectively enjoying their prettiness

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2 minutes ago, Oracle42 said:

Dammit! Why can't I just have Sate? I could hit the mute button and pretend Sabrina/Nate were characters that I care about while objectively enjoying their prettiness

You wouldn't need to hit the button; they're naturally on mute.

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1 hour ago, HeatLifer said:

You wouldn't need to hit the button; they're naturally on mute.

 

I just want them away from characters who don't bore me into a coma

 

If AJ wasn't dead, and RC hadn't been determined to write shitty Todd fanfic with the Franco character, Carly/AJ would probably be a couple and Michael would have a story about trying to balance his relationship with Sonny and his past against a relationship with AJ and an actual future that he never imagined.That immediately rebalances the canvas. Instead he's fighting with people over Sabrina's giant baby. I don't even care about Michael and that seems like a shitty trade 

 

1 hour ago, Chairperson Meow said:

If MSt will play Nina as Phyllis, then who is she banging by the dumpster? 

Julian, probably. He's in "publishing" and she's going to be a "journalist"

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2 minutes ago, Oracle42 said:

If AJ wasn't dead, and RC hadn't been determined to write shitty Todd fic with the Franco character, Carly/AJ would probably be a couple and Michael would have a story about trying to balance his relationship with Sonny and his past against a relationship with AJ and an actual future that he never imagined. Immediately rebalancing the canvas. Instead he's fighting with people over Sabrina's giant baby. I don't even care about Michael and that seems like a shitty trade 

I can already see Mo's tweets about this now. 

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That giant baby is adorable!  And I think I am grossed out by Julian/Nina dumpster sex.  Sonny/Nina dumpster sex intrigues me.  

2 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

I can already see Mo's tweets about this now. 

And his faaaaaannnnss 

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