Badsamaritan November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 From the promo and some pics out there, I'm taking a guess that Carly does get into an accident with Keeks maybe, and because she's late to the wedding Jason goes to look for her. He finds her, gets 911 on the way, and while they're waiting she tells him who he is. Paramedics arrive to take her to GH but Jason says he has to go to the church first. That's why Liez is at the altar I think when he comes in, and tells everybody what Carly said. What thefuckever dumb shit happens after that, I have no idea. The scenes with Sam and Paddy I'm thinking are maybe recap scenes. I'm hoping there's more to it, that she's in shock or something. They should be advertising now that Liez will be exposed early in sweeps, and use the rest of the period to get into the aftermath and start launching new stories to keep people watching. If they delay that reveal til mid or late November, they're likely to continue to bleed viewers. 1 Link to comment
Bringonthedrama November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 I think some of your guess is correct, badsamaritan. In the promo, Carly is standing in the aisle in the background (bandage on forehead) and reacts in shock when Jakeson grabs Nikolas in the pew, around the neck. It seems likely she tells him who he is (or both she and Hayden do, separately?), he then tells Liz and the guests, and the Samtrick exchange is a next scene in the church. I can see Sam and Patrick are still in their wedding guest attire. Link to comment
TeeVee329 November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 There's a shot of people turning around looking stunned so I assume that's when Carly stumbles in. You know Carls wouldn't let something trivial like a car wreck stop her, in this, possible her greatest moment of triumph. And if Kiki does hit Carly's car, I hope that's FINALLY the moment where Carly declares full-on war on Kiki. 9 Link to comment
CPP83 November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 And if Kiki does hit Carly's car, I hope that's FINALLY the moment where Carly declares full-on war on Kiki. Should this happen then all I want is for Carly to carry Kiki to the church and beat Liz to death with her and Kiki dies in the process and all is well. 4 Link to comment
Oracle42 November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 Didn't I specifically say that I was not interested in a sweeps car accident where Kiki survives? This show is just one fucking disappointment after another. 8 Link to comment
backhometome November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 Ive heard that Liz being exposed doesnt happen yet. Liz will pretend she didnt know. *sighs* Cant wait. Link to comment
Badsamaritan November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 With the show now being surpassed by Days, it extremely ill-advised to delay the lyin Liez reveal for very long. And Uncle Frank is just stupid enough to think delaying it some more will keep folks tuned in. I swear, aside from S2 of Sleepy Hollow, I don't think I've seen showrunners so far out of touch with their audience or what makes good storytelling. And the SH showrunners fucked up pretty damn bad with StruggleWitch. Yay for Uncle Frank? 2 Link to comment
Myst November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 Stepping out of lurkdom to vent my disgust over these possible spoilers. Originally, I had hope with all that was coming out--GF on a long term contract, FH signing a new contract and getting a house, KM making a brief return to hopefully clean up the mess that Ron made with her character, TR making a brief visit--and I was giving serious consideration to not waiting at least a week to watch a show and not fast forwarding through the commercials. I was even going to suffer through the never-ending Sonny scenes. However, this latest drek--the possibility that Jake/Jason understands all of Liz's lies, that he goes out of town for more than a month so that there's no movement on this God-awful storyline, etc--has me reconsidering. I might still watch the show on the same day, but I will definitely fast forward through all the commercials and Sonny scenes so that my viewing doesn't count in their all important C+3 ratings. Stupid show! Link to comment
TeeVee329 November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 If Liz is not being exposed as knowing right away, why is the show making such a big deal of Rebecca Budig going to the wedding? If it's all a pointless red herring, that's so dumb. 2 Link to comment
Bringonthedrama November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 And if Kiki does hit Carly's car, I hope that's FINALLY the moment where Carly declares full-on war on Kiki. I don't think Carly has ever cared enough about Kiki and her behavior to do that. Kiki left Morgan for Michael, and when she did hurt the favorite son, it was to protect CarSon's secret. The most I would expect is for Carly to rant that Kiki is reckless/worthless/whatever just like her mom. This sounds like a lazy, switched around redux of the storyline where Jason's drunk mom hit Jason's then-ex, Sam, with her car. Link to comment
Chairperson Meow November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 I'm sure Ava will take responsibility, leading to the reunion of Ava/Kiki. Until Morgan drops his pants, of course. 1 Link to comment
TeeVee329 November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 (edited) If anyone covers for Kiki, it will surely be Francs and Neens, her super awesome pseudo-parents! #barf Or, if Morgan and Kiki get back together, it'll be a ticking time bomb between them. "How could you leave my mother for dead?!?!" Speaking of Franco, since the show desperately wants us to forget about him being a SERIAL KILLER, I wonder if there will be any reaction from him to Jason being alive. Edited November 3, 2015 by TeeVee329 1 Link to comment
Chairperson Meow November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 Nah. Gentle, lady whisperer Franco will probably have either no scenes with The Jason Morgan or A Scene of Being "Bullied" to solidify his non Franco life. Or they'll deFranco him even more. Seriously, why even call him Franco? Just say he's not so we can all move on. Though, I do think Roger would've made a great AJ recast. Instead of Nina/Franco, we could be watching AJ/Nikki. Link to comment
tallyrand November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 I was not sure where to put this since it involves the spoiler that Robin is returning. But could someone explain to me, who in PC knows that Robin was looking for Jason? The reason I ask is that is Liz or Nikolas knew Robin was looking for Jason, their not telling people that Jason is alive means they are knowingly allowing her to be kept hostage. I think I have heard Liz say that Robin is in Paris, so is that where everyone believes she is?Isn't it weird she hasn't been in contact in over a year? Link to comment
Oracle42 November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 I think Patrick and Sam know Robin was looking for Jason but they believe he's dead. Liz and Nik know Jason is alive but don't know about Robin I think Carly might be the only person close to having enough info to put the two together Link to comment
TeeVee329 November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 (edited) IIRC, on-screen, the only people who have talked about Robin having been trying to revive an undead Jason are Patrick, Anna, and Sam. They all think that Jason died prior to Robin "leaving" Crichton-Clark. I think it's ridiculous we'll probably be expected to buy Nikolas doesn't know, considering he was in league with Helena and is supposedly having her monitored in exile on Cassadine Island. Edited November 3, 2015 by TeeVee329 1 Link to comment
Oracle42 November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 i think we learned Robin has been skyping Emma - either from Emma or from RC's Twitter Link to comment
tallyrand November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 Thanks everyone!!! So Robin has been in communication with Emma in recent months? Link to comment
HeatLifer November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 Robin has not been communicating with anyone since Sept. 2014. 1 Link to comment
Oracle42 November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 I think if she hadn't been Patrick would've been pissed enough that it would be mentioned onscreen - but RC tended to be sloppy about important details so we don't really know for sure Link to comment
HeatLifer November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 I think if she hadn't been Patrick would've been pissed enough that it would be mentioned onscreen - but RC tended to be sloppy about important details so we don't really know for sure Unless they retcon it, as in someone in a future episode claims to have spoken to Robin this entire time, it hasn't happened. 1 Link to comment
TeeVee329 November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 (edited) i think we learned Robin has been skyping Emma - either from Emma or from RC's Twitter I think that was while she was at Crichton-Clark, not since she's been in Helena's custody. I actually read an interesting fictional thriller lately about a woman who basically masqueraded as another woman online for months and was able, through e-mails and social media, to make it look like this woman was in a completely different place than she was. It's too bad little touches like that couldn't have been dropped in, it would have made Patrick and Anna et. al look less dumb. Edited November 3, 2015 by TeeVee329 3 Link to comment
tallyrand November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 Soooo....no one has talked to Robin since Sept 2014 even though they think she is in Paris or whatever and they don't think that's weird? And Anna and Patrick know she put herself in danger and don't care they haven't heard from her in over a year??? Wow. 1 Link to comment
HeatLifer November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 Soooo....no one has talked to Robin since Sept 2014 even though they think she is in Paris or whatever and they don't think that's weird? And Anna and Patrick know she put herself in danger and don't care they haven't heard from her in over a year??? Wow. Yup. And that's why this story and the way it's been written has been frustrating. 1 Link to comment
Baxter November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 Liz and Nik know Jason is alive but don't know about Robin I'm willing to bet that Nik knows about Robin, and it will come out after the reveal, solidifying his role as a true villain. I know, I know - he and Robin are friends, but her release from captivity would have led to the Jason reveal and ruined his plans for ELQ. The same reason he took out a hit on what's-her-name is the same reason he hasn't released Robin. 3 Link to comment
OnceSane November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 Ugh…so not excited for this damn story line to drag on even more. Fucking IIC. 3 Link to comment
Oracle42 November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 Sometimes when watching the Liz scenes I think about her speech to Ric and her claim that she doesn't like being lied to - and I laugh and laugh. 8 Link to comment
TeeVee329 November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 (edited) Soooo....no one has talked to Robin since Sept 2014 even though they think she is in Paris or whatever and they don't think that's weird? And Anna and Patrick know she put herself in danger and don't care they haven't heard from her in over a year??? Wow. The last time we saw Robin talk to Patrick and Anna, she - at Helena's urging - spun some story that she left Crichton-Clark after Jason died and that she felt "broken" and was moving to Paris and was going to send Patrick divorce papers. So while Patrick and Anna don't look great for not questioning this more, they at least thought she was out of immediate danger (Patrick was worried she was still in Crichton-Clark when it imploded, no?). Edited November 3, 2015 by TeeVee329 3 Link to comment
OnceSane November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 Sometimes when watching the Liz scenes I think about her speech to Ric and her claim that she doesn't like being lied to - and I laugh and laugh. Liz doesn't like to be lied to, she prefers to be the one who lies. 8 Link to comment
WendyCR72 November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 Ugh…so not excited for this damn story line to drag on even more. Fucking IIC. And it's a fucking secret being revealed! It's November! SPILL. Actually this should have been done with ages ago, but hey. But it's so pathetic that this show cannot even get the timing and drama of a reveal right! They're going to draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag it out 'til, truly, no one even gives half a shit anymore. Judging by the ratings, a lot are already there. 5 Link to comment
tallyrand November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 I think seeing Robin will make Jason's memories return. He kind of laid the foundation for that today when he said that someone's voice will make him remember. I believe that's why they couldn't have him remember Robin on the bridge today. 4 Link to comment
HeatLifer November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 I think seeing Robin will make Jason's memories return. He kind of laid the foundation for that today when he said that someone's voice will make him remember. I believe that's why they couldn't have him remember Robin on the bridge today. I just don't trust this show and haven't for years, so much so that I see Robin coming back to see Patrick/Emma crying over Sam and Jason still with no memories. Link to comment
tallyrand November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 I just don't trust this show and haven't for years, so much so that I see Robin coming back to see Patrick/Emma crying over Sam and Jason still with no memories. Well Ihave learned that the best way to approach this show is having your expectations in the toilet, so I can't blame you there!! Link to comment
BestestAuntEver November 3, 2015 Author Share November 3, 2015 I just don't trust this show and haven't for years, so much so that I see Robin coming back to see Patrick/Emma crying over Sam and Jason still with no memories. Not even in town based upon the new spoilers. They could end up not sharing a scene. Link to comment
HeatLifer November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 Not even in town based upon the new spoilers. They could end up not sharing a scene. She'll have scenes with an extra's arms again! 1 Link to comment
ulkis November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 magazine spoilers via another poster 11/9: Nik blindsided11/11: Nina looks for a job11/5: Val has interesting day at work11/6: Anna talks to Paul11/16: Nik comes clean11/17: Nina has bad day at work11/18: Spin back to help friend11/19: Hayden comes close to finding out one of Nik's secrets11/20: Nathan investigates a crime11/9: Avery/Sonny fight dirty11/10: custody situation gets uglier11/17: CarSon fight11/19: Carly worries about Morgan11/20: Morgan out of control; someone unexpected helps Sonny with his recovery oh, great. Because Morgan is so much fun when he's a douche bi-polar. RPW [dude who plays Dillon] talks about reveal. He feels guilty about how he revealed the truth. He is totally in love with Lulu and thought Lulu would want him if she knew about Vante. Dillon tries to apologize to Lulu and tells her Dante doesn't deserve her. She goes off on him and he realizes she still loves Dante and it won't happen for Dillon. Then Lulu does something crazy Why are they writing Dillon like a teenager? Dante and Lulu weren't going steady senior year Dillon! They were married! 5 Link to comment
WendyCR72 November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 Why is this show so keen on revisionist history? In this case, Dillon and Lulu? They were a hot-minute fling with a baby and then AN ABORTION (in case we missed JMB's Lulu yelling it before). As Elsa would say: Let. It. Go. 11 Link to comment
Tiger November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 Yup. And that's why this story and the way it's been written has been frustrating. Where the story really went wrong as when Faison told Anna and Patrick was in danger and he knew where she really was, and then they totally ignored it. At the time, I think Ron was toying with Faison having Anna under some sort of mind control. At least that's how Fin & Anders player it IMHO. 1 Link to comment
ulkis November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 Why is this show so keen on revisionist history? In this case, Dillon and Lulu? They were a hot-minute fling with a baby and then AN ABORTION (in case we missed JMB's Lulu yell it before). As Elsa would say: Let. It. Go. They're not saying he's still in love with her from that time though or that he's been in love all along. He said it's a thing that happened in the past couple of months. Link to comment
WendyCR72 November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 They're not saying he's still in love with her from that time though or that he's been in love all along. He said it's a thing that happened in the past couple of months. Yeah, but the way it has played since his arrival, the words don't match how the writers have (mis)handled this whole thing. 3 Link to comment
Tiger November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 I don't agree with this. It sounds like the actors owe the viewers and are obligated to return to this shitshow, just because the writers aren't able to write the characters that are no longer on this show, decently. JJ has found success in prime time. I am happy for him. He returned when Luke left because Geary was his mentor and they are good friends. Kimberly keeps returning because she loves the cast and crew and does it for the fans, although I have to wonder about the last, because as a diehard Robin fan, I HATE what happens and is done to Robin in her past two returns. They don't have to do anything. If there is a need for Lucky, then recast the character; and I say this as someone who loves JJ and for me he is the ONLY Lucky. And now I'll wear my hypocrite hat and say I won't buy or accept a Robin recast. Not that I'll be watching once she's gone after her next return next month. Now, if this show had good writers and runners who actually cared about its history, characters and success? I'd be first in line wanting my favorites to come back. But it doesn't, so that's why I don't want them back. I'm happy that Tristan is coming back for a visit, because that way, they can't fuck up his character. Or at least I hope they won't. I want the RobertFucking!Scorpio of 2012 and 2013. But that's just me. and my two cents, for whatever it's worth. I'm not saying the actors owe us or the show anything. I am saying that it would great if the actors could occasionally appear, and pointing out that other performers in other mediums appear to balance multiple projects, yet in the soap world it seems like an all or nothing situation regardless of contractual status. Link to comment
WendyCR72 November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 I'm not saying the actors owe us or the show anything. I am saying that it would great if the actors could occasionally appear, and pointing out that other performers in other mediums appear to balance multiple projects, yet in the soap world it seems like an all or nothing situation regardless of contractual status. Probably because, fair or not, soaps in the mainstream acting world are still looked down upon. Probably even more so with four left. Add in the pace of taping and methods (block taping), and it would make visits very difficult if not impossible. 1 Link to comment
Harmony233 November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 Damn those are some boring spoilers for sweeps. 1 Link to comment
WendyCR72 November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 Damn those are some boring spoilers for sweeps. They're right at home with the boring spoilers during non sweeps! 6 Link to comment
TeeVee329 November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 (edited) I'm surprised Dillon showing the footage on purpose is going to be common knowledge so quickly. I thought we'd see Lulu leaning on Dillon's shoulder while he flashes back to his fight with Valerie. 11/11: Nina looks for a job Oh gaaaaawwwwddddd, I can't even imagine what garbage they're going to do here. Edited November 4, 2015 by TeeVee329 2 Link to comment
Lillybee November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 Who in their right mind would even consider hiring the Nina for anything? But wait, this is Port Charles, a city where everyone is losing their minds. 3 Link to comment
KerleyQ November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 Oh gaaaaawwwwddddd, I can't even imagine what garbage they're going to do here. They'll probably give her a job at the hospital and then it will be "What? You whiny bitches wanted more stuff in the hospital. Now we've given you Sonny's hospitalization and Nina working there. Two of our biggest stars focused on the hospital! Is there no pleasing you people?" 6 Link to comment
OnceSane November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 11/17: Nina has a bad day at work Who the fuck hires that nutbag? NGL, if Nina's bad day is because Ava stopped by and casually gutted her, I'd be okay with that. 6 Link to comment
Artsda November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 (edited) Those spoilers are so boring and bad, "Nina looks for a job? Nina goes to work?" They won't be able to compete with the DAYs/YR stuff. Edited November 4, 2015 by Artsda 3 Link to comment
Tiger November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 Who the fuck hires that nutbag? NGL, if Nina's bad day is because Ava stopped by and casually gutted her, I'd be okay with that. Nancy Ghran Lee? 1 Link to comment
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