S08.E12: Gag Gift

[KungFuBunny]

Erika's Hollywood journey comes full circle; the women attend Camille's charity event, where Teddi's motives are brought into question; Dorit tries to repair her relationship with Lisa Vanderpump; Camille attempts to silence Dorit once and for all.

[BluBrd47]

So I can't figure out what the deal with the diamond earrings is from the preview. Are they a gift that Dorit gives to Lisa and she refuses to accept them? Did anyone get a more clear idea than me?

[KungFuBunny]

1 minute ago, BluBrd47 said:

So I can't figure out what the deal with the diamond earrings is from the preview. Are they a gift that Dorit gives to Lisa and she refuses to accept them? Did anyone get a more clear idea than me?

The gift is from Giggy to LVP. I think Dorit wants to borrow them and LVP says something like 2 weeks ago she would have gladly let her borrow them, but not after what Dorit did

[Dutchgirl]

Any guesses on what Camille gave Dorit? A dildo? Butt plug? Maybe a bondage gag is more appropriate considering...

[film noire]

1 hour ago, Dutchgirl said:

Any guesses on what Camille gave Dorit? 

Jewelry? :)

[zoeysmom]

Didn't Camille promise to give Dorit a ball gag for her mouth?  I am assuming that is what the "gag gift" reference is.

[BBHN]

 

 

 

[KungFuBunny]

8 hours ago, BBHN said:

 

 

 

Thank you BBHN!

[gundysgirl]

So LVP is going to do her usual to Dorit. When she is pissed and wants to let everyone know she is pissed. Not in one-on-one situations, but in a group. Getting her digs in while trying to pretend it's her British humor. This is why I find it amusing when folks say that everyone knows LVP doesn't like the big group confrontations, like the one in NY. She loves big group confrontations. She just loves it when it is on her terms and she has total control of the narrative. She doesn't want a discussion, or a sharing of feelings between the hurt parties because she doesn't do well with "feelings". When that happens or when confronted, she gets up and walks away. But what she loves is to make others squirm. I don't feel one bit sorry for Dorit, because she is horrible. She should have been paying more attention and she would have known this was how she would be punished. 

[BluBrd47]

13 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

The gift is from Giggy to LVP. I think Dorit wants to borrow them and LVP says something like 2 weeks ago she would have gladly let her borrow them, but not after what Dorit did

Thanks :) We were blessed with ONE episode without PigK. Better not eat before I watch next week. Already saw him hovering at the gift opening.

[Jel]

Thank you, BBHN, for posting those awesome clips.  Looks like this episode will be good. (And with the bonus of seeing Giggy in a powder blue tuxedo. It cannot get any better than that!)

And aww Lisa gets the meaning of "diddly squat"  wrong.  

[BBHN]

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 I don't feel one bit sorry for Dorit, because she is horrible. She should have been paying more attention and she would have known this was how she would be punished. 

Will PK defend his wife, or will he just sit there impotently under LVP's passive-aggressive rage?

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[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, BBHN said:

Will PK defend his wife, or will he just sit there impotently under the LVP's passive-aggressive rage?

I think he'll let LVP unleash her little stabs at Dorit.

Take a quick re-watch of the LVP Dorit scene, where Dorit is climbing on LVP to apologize.

LVP is not annoyed about the apology, she's annoyed that Dorit is climbing on her and the possibility of her hair/wig/topper going askew. She doesn't lay with her head thrown back EVER - she's very aware that the cameras might catch a glimpse of the wig clips or cap.

[kokapetl]

13 hours ago, Dutchgirl said:

Any guesses on what Camille gave Dorit? A dildo? Butt plug? Maybe a bondage gag is more appropriate considering...

A decent wig? 

[KungFuBunny]

13 hours ago, Dutchgirl said:

Any guesses on what Camille gave Dorit? A dildo? Butt plug? Maybe a bondage gag is more appropriate considering...

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[SuprSuprElevated]

20 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

The prah pah veh sell faw hawt leh quids soch ahs caw fay aw tee

University of North Texas was never the same.

[Rahul]

13 hours ago, film noire said:

Jewelry? :)

Is that from the Erika Jayne collection?

[Jel]

Gah, that ring. And she's wearing it in such a way that she's basically calling herself a cunt every time she looks at it. 

[zoeysmom]

3 hours ago, BBHN said:

Will PK defend his wife, or will he just sit there impotently under LVP's passive-aggressive rage?

LVP didn't exactly rage-she jabbed and he did sit there and tell Dorit the ball gag was funny when she started to get offended.  Dorit then declined LVP's invitation to continue her birthday celebration at PUMP.

Kyle is the one that seems almost orgasmic over Dorit getting barbed.  Kyle's vicious side is showing.

[BBHN]

That is how LVP rages. That's her style.

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tell Dorit the ball gag was funny when she started to get offended

So yeah, kind of impotent indeed.

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[KungFuBunny]

24 minutes ago, BBHN said:

That is how LVP rages. That's her style.

So yeah, kind of impotent indeed.

LVP knows what she is doing. It also seems like PK tells her to shush it and doesn't rush in to defend her.

I hope Camille tells her she's just returning her sense of humor.

[Silo]

I’m over Dorit. I think her machinations are obvious and boring. I would love for them to get rid of her or to bring another HW in who can bring her down.  

[zoeysmom]

3 hours ago, BBHN said:

That is how LVP rages. That's her style.

So yeah, kind of impotent indeed.

This would be rage-lite for LVP.  

PK has been not so subtly giving Dorit clues.  He was there when Dorit offended Camille, and tried to get Dorit to zip it, and now Camille is returning the favor he is letting her know she needs to grow up.  As to LVP, perhaps PK understands, more than anyone, Dorit needs to learn consequences for her comments.  By this time Dorit  has probably filled him in on the conversation in NY and LVP's basis for her friendship with Dorit.

I am not a fan of Kyle's idea that people need to spring to defense of someone and have their back.  Usually the person with the comments gets their just desserts.  It happened to Dorit and LVP has had several seasons of her barbs coming back to bite her.

What you see as impotence, I see as discretion being the better part of valor.  LVP obviously knows she is playing to a Dorit hating crowd-let her have her moment.  It needs to happen so when Kyle and Dorit have a conversation about it later, Kyle can carefully calculate, how long the friendship, who was hurt more, who had whose back, and more importantly tell LVP the cuts weren't deep enough to satisfy Kyle's need for revenge.

[BBHN]

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This would be rage-lite for LVP.  

Nah, it seems just about right for LVP. Keep digging till the wound bleeds...and then keep going.

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PK has been not so subtly giving Dorit clues.

Telling your wife to shut up isn't the same as sticking up for her.

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As to LVP, perhaps PK understands, more than anyone, Dorit needs to learn consequences for her comments. 

Yeah but he could have also suggested to LVP that her party wasn't the time and place for that, that he and Dorit could have hashed it all out later, in private.

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What you see as impotence, I see as discretion being the better part of valor.  LVP obviously knows she is playing to a Dorit hating crowd-let her have her moment.

What discretion? You're basically admitting PK kowtowed to LVP and forgot he had a spine and didn't defend his wife. I can't imagine, say, Ken doing the same thing had someone gone after LVP that way.

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It needs to happen so when Kyle and Dorit have a conversation about it later, Kyle can carefully calculate, how long the friendship, who was hurt more, who had whose back, and more importantly tell LVP the cuts weren't deep enough to satisfy Kyle's need for revenge.

What on Earth does Kyle have to do with PK sitting there impotently while LVP goes after his wife in public? Is he in cahoots with Kyle or something?

[Silo]

I think Lisa realizes she can’t really “control” Dorit’s obnoxious behavior so she’s going to shame her in front of PK so that he’ll try to control it more in the future.

[zoeysmom]

From the episode description:

. . . the women attend Camille's charity event, where Teddi's motives are brought into question.

Teddi is not having a good week on Bravo.  Three WWHL guests were asked their opinion of Teddi and all three gave thumbs down and said she shouldn't be on the show.  It has to hurt when Jennifer Lawrence opines in that fashion.  Worse she texts Andy about what a dud addition she was to the show.

I think maybe Andy should stop putting up her photo and asking his guests for comments.  I get the impression he thought Teddi and her "accountability" would be a big hit.  Which makes me wonder-what possible motives could Teddi have by attending a charity event?

[BBHN]

I think it matters how well Teddi tests with the fans, not the guests on WWHL.

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Which makes me wonder-what possible motives could Teddi have by attending a charity event?

The same motives anybody else attending a charity event would have?

[PerPlexied]

19 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

From the episode description:

. . . the women attend Camille's charity event, where Teddi's motives are brought into question.

Teddi is not having a good week on Bravo.  Three WWHL guests were asked their opinion of Teddi and all three gave thumbs down and said she shouldn't be on the show.  It has to hurt when Jennifer Lawrence opines in that fashion.  Worse she texts Andy about what a dud addition she was to the show.

I think maybe Andy should stop putting up her photo and asking his guests for comments.  I get the impression he thought Teddi and her "accountability" would be a big hit.  Which makes me wonder-what possible motives could Teddi have by attending a charity event?

I know you're not a Teddi fan, but the overall fan reaction to Teddi has been overwhelmingly positive. I don't think I've seen fans embrace someone this quickly since Dorinda/Shannon. I also don't think Andy truly cares what JLaw thinks when it comes to casting-- he just loves some shade no matter what. As for Rinna and Meghan McCain, seems the checks from Erika cleared, especially Rinna's as that's the only reason I can think of since it seemed to come out of nowhere that she may possibly dislike Teddi. As Erika's "friends" they knew what they were doing. 

My take is that the girls weren't expecting the fans to embrace Teddi this much (they probably thought she was a boring 1-and-done) and are now scrambling because she's become such a favorite and developed friendships with both of the franchise's main players. They really didn't see it coming. 

[KungFuBunny]

9 minutes ago, PerPlexied said:

I know you're not a Teddi fan, but the overall fan reaction to Teddi has been overwhelmingly positive. I don't think I've seen fans embrace someone this quickly since Dorinda/Shannon. I also don't think Andy truly cares what JLaw thinks when it comes to casting-- he just loves some shade no matter what. As for Rinna and Meghan McCain, seems the checks from Erika cleared, especially Rinna's as that's the only reason I can think of since it seemed to come out of nowhere that she may possibly dislike Teddi. As Erika's "friends" they knew what they were doing. 

My take is that the girls weren't expecting the fans to embrace Teddi this much (they probably thought she was a boring 1-and-done) and are now scrambling because she's become such a favorite and developed friendships with both of the franchise's main players. They really didn't see it coming. 

As for the episode synopsis - they can be very misleading (I'm giving the stink eye to Bravo marketing)

A few weeks ago they said private information about Lisa Vanderpump goes public. - that was a big kablooey.

Edited March 2, 2018 by KungFuBunny

[zoeysmom]

44 minutes ago, PerPlexied said:

I know you're not a Teddi fan, but the overall fan reaction to Teddi has been overwhelmingly positive. I don't think I've seen fans embrace someone this quickly since Dorinda/Shannon. I also don't think Andy truly cares what JLaw thinks when it comes to casting-- he just loves some shade no matter what. As for Rinna and Meghan McCain, seems the checks from Erika cleared, especially Rinna's as that's the only reason I can think of since it seemed to come out of nowhere that she may possibly dislike Teddi. As Erika's "friends" they knew what they were doing. 

My take is that the girls weren't expecting the fans to embrace Teddi this much (they probably thought she was a boring 1-and-done) and are now scrambling because she's become such a favorite and developed friendships with both of the franchise's main players. They really didn't see it coming. 

I had high hopes for Teddi but alas she became tedious when she became another RH, do I say, not as I do.  To me, Teddi is just another anxious spoiled person.  Somehow or another  she has managed to alienate Rinna, Erika and who knows who else.  One thing I do appreciate about Teddi, is when people tweet pretty vicious things about Dorit-she tells them to stop and keeps things in perspective.  She also congratulated Dorit on her swimwear line.  So she has some good points.

This is one site.   Which RHOBH are scrambling and for what over Teddi's alleged popularity?  For the most part what I read is Teddi is so down to earth.   I am not seeing the universal adulation for Teddi.  I think people take her side against Dorit.  Let's see how she does against Erika for example.   If boring and dumb means down to earth then Teddi is all that and more.  Bravo has elected to put in the show description Teddi's behavior draws questions.  Twice Teddi has shut down filming with her demands.  That is money wasted for production.  Bravo also looks at the RH temperament and professionalism.  Teddi has shown she has neither.  BTW she is in good company-there is a reason they don't bring Camille back full time-not a team player.  

I think if three out of three people asked about someone give a thumbs down, and they are celebs, most likely their opinion counts.  Obviously Andy does care or he would not ask JLaw and have her as a solo guest.  JLaw opined on other Bravolebrities as well.   Jennifer Lawrence also loved Dorit and Brandi.  Over the years there have been some rather disastrous choices of fan favorite RH.  I will never understand how Lisa Rinna, Ramona Singer, Vicki Gunvalson or Teresa Giudice stay on, but supposedly the have rabid fan followings-celebrity and otherwise.   I think it is because they bring drama plain and simple.

LVP and Kyle saying Teddi is a nice girl can be the kiss of death.  Both LVP and Kyle like Joyce and look what happened to her.  Joyce still shows up for LVP events and supports her charities.  I think when they are looking for RH they need someone who has a pretty forceful personality and are somehow unique.  Riding horses and being devoted to keeping one's weight down isn't exactly scintillating.      

[Otherkate]

On 3/1/2018 at 8:38 AM, gundysgirl said:

 I don't feel one bit sorry for Dorit, because she is horrible. She should have been paying more attention and she would have known this was how she would be punished. 

It's a thing of beauty, really. 

[PerPlexied]

28 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

I had high hopes for Teddi but alas she became tedious when she became another RH, do I say, not as I do.  To me, Teddi is just another anxious spoiled person.  Somehow or another  she has managed to alienate Rinna, Erika and who knows who else.  One thing I do appreciate about Teddi, is when people tweet pretty vicious things about Dorit-she tells them to stop and keeps things in perspective.  She also congratulated Dorit on her swimwear line.  So she has some good points.

This is one site.   Which RHOBH are scrambling and for what over Teddi's alleged popularity?  For the most part what I read is Teddi is so down to earth.   I am not seeing the universal adulation for Teddi.  I think people take her side against Dorit.  Let's see how she does against Erika for example.   If boring and dumb means down to earth then Teddi is all that and more.  Bravo has elected to put in the show description Teddi's behavior draws questions.  Twice Teddi has shut down filming with her demands.  That is money wasted for production.  Bravo also looks at the RH temperament and professionalism.  Teddi has shown she has neither.  BTW she is in good company-there is a reason they don't bring Camille back full time-not a team player.  

I think if three out of three people asked about someone give a thumbs down, and they are celebs, most likely their opinion counts.  Obviously Andy does care or he would not ask JLaw and have her as a solo guest.  JLaw opined on other Bravolebrities as well.   Jennifer Lawrence also loved Dorit and Brandi.  Over the years there have been some rather disastrous choices of fan favorite RH.  I will never understand how Lisa Rinna, Ramona Singer, Vicki Gunvalson or Teresa Giudice stay on, but supposedly the have rabid fan followings-celebrity and otherwise.   I think it is because they bring drama plain and simple.

LVP and Kyle saying Teddi is a nice girl can be the kiss of death.  Both LVP and Kyle like Joyce and look what happened to her.  Joyce still shows up for LVP events and supports her charities.  I think when they are looking for RH they need someone who has a pretty forceful personality and are somehow unique.  Riding horses and being devoted to keeping one's weight down isn't exactly scintillating.      

The bolded makes me laugh cause that is absolutely not true. 

As for Teddi shutting down production with her demands-- that's ridiculous. During "lategate" from what I gathered they were scheduled to film until 5:30. So even if Teddi sat there like a ridiculous person until Dorit arrived, they barely would have had time to film. And this is supposed to be "real life," so why shouldn't Teddi be allowed to have "real life" reactions? And the crew gets paid on a rate basis not hourly, I'm sure, so it's not like she's taking money out of anybody's pocket. 

What I was saying about scrambling is that during filming, I'm guessing Dorit and Erika (and Rinna) were placing their bets that Teddi wouldn't be embraced by the fans and therefore thought the way the wind was going to blow it'd be an easy season for them. Looking at instagram and twitter, that is not the case thus far. If we compare social media accounts, Teddi is basically at the same amount of followers as Tinsley (both first season girls) and we're only halfway through Teddi's first season. Fans are really taking to her. 

LVP and Kyle use the word "love" when describing Teddi and it seems like they enjoy her on the show. For me, Teddi is a mirror to these women and reflects to the audience the real them. Also, the way she finally shut down Dorit in New York showed she does have what it takes to play. That, and she's very funny and self-deprecating. I would place bets she's back next season. 

[Lisin]

Guys, this episode doesn't even air until tomorrow and we're already two pages in of (mostly) off topic discussion including you all being rude to each other in replies. I'm locking this thread down until tomorrow,  you're welcome to post in the other threads, but please remember to be respectful of your fellow posters. 

[Lisin]

This topic is now unlocked, but please remember to watch how you all speak to each other. Also please remember to keep discussion to the episode at hand. 

[BBHN]

On 3/4/2018 at 11:14 AM, zoeysmom said:

I think if three out of three people asked about someone give a thumbs down, and they are celebs, most likely their opinion counts. 

In the end, it matters how the viewers react to a HW, not guests on WWHL.

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Both LVP and Kyle like Joyce and look what happened to her.

But didn't LVP only like Joyce/became friends with her after Joyce was gone?

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As for Teddi shutting down production with her demands-- that's ridiculous.

Agreed.

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I would place bets she's back next season. 

At the beginning of the season, I wouldn't have taken that bet. But she is somehow fitting into this show rather nicely. She's certainly won me over.

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 I don't feel one bit sorry for Dorit, because she is horrible. She should have been paying more attention and she would have known this was how she would be punished. 

It will be fun watching LVP go after her. And as you said, Dorit can't be all the surprised when LVP does.

[KungFuBunny]

32 minutes ago, BBHN said:

In the end, it matters how the viewers react to a HW, not guests on WWHL.

But didn't LVP only like Joyce/became friends with her after Joyce was gone?

Agreed.

At the beginning of the season, I wouldn't have taken that bet. But she is somehow fitting into this show rather nicely. She's certainly won me over.

It will be fun watching LVP go after her. And as you said, Dorit can't be all the surprised when LVP does.

I don't think LVP will go after Dorit as harshly as she should. She will definitely put Dorit in her lane.

In the clip after last week's episode aired they showed a pink mouth gag.

I think Camille might have also got Dorit a big strap on - this is based on Edwin's gasp in the clip.

[Reality police]

53 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

 

I think Camille might have also got Dorit a big strap on - this is based on Edwin's gasp in the clip.

I can only hope she did. That would be perfection and very like season one Camille. 

[noveltylibrary]

3 hours ago, Reality police said:

I can only hope she did. That would be perfection and very like season one Camille. 

I was just watching season one Camille on the reunion Bravo just aired...it's clear she was miserable but Kyle looked just as miserable and bitchy. 

[KungFuBunny]

Camille said stage 2 not stage 4

Edited March 7, 2018 by KungFuBunny

[KungFuBunny]

I am not believing that Dorit didn't discuss what happened in NY with PK prior to the cameras showing up to film

[Bronzedog]

Just to get this out of the way so I can go do something else- I hate Dorit.

[Snappy]

I'm glad to see they picked up right where they left off, Dorit's self absorption.

Why do we need to see Camille and Rinna prancing around in lingerie?

What the heck character is Erika channeling at the restaurant?

[Straycat80]

Geez, Dorito get your wigged head out of LVP’s ass! 

[Mindthinkr]

Has Dorit been watching earlier seasons with Yolanda? Greeting LVP with MY LOVE. The suck up begins. 

[gundysgirl]

Dorit as an amazing way of making things worse. Always. 

[Mindthinkr]

Dorit sure wore a lot of make up. Is that for extra effects when she begins crying on the way home?

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[Cranky One]

Those perfume bottles are cool...that's all I got right now. 

[KungFuBunny]

Where was Kyle?

[Mindthinkr]

LVP is defending Teddi to Dorit. Then Dorit climbs on her like a monkey. 

[gundysgirl]

I have such second hand embarrassment for Dorit.