S06.E08: The Whole Point of Being Roomates

[Guest]

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After saving a young girl, Dawson is forced to make a tough decision when she finds out the girl's father is addicted to painkillers. Herrmann loses his cool and gets into an altercation with a police officer after responding to a call. Otis and Cruz are on a mission to find out who Brett is dating. Meanwhile, Boden is skeptical when Donna's brother Julian unexpectedly comes to town.

[doLLish]

I don’t really have much to say about the episode except I liked that Donna’s brother turned out to be a good guy. That storyline usually always ends up with the guy being a scammer and disappearing but that was a nice little plot twist. Don’t know what Dawson had going on and don’t care. Sylvie and Antonio got back together and broke up again? ...Okay.

This show is so unbelievably boring now. It used to be one of the few shows that would get my undivided attention (aside from commercial breaks) but now I have to actively try, HARD, to pay attention. And often fail.

I cant put my finger on what’s different, if it’s one thing or a culmination of things but this is not the Chicago Fire I fell in love with. I’m gonna rewatch some of season one to see if I can tell exactly what’s changed. 

[NJRadioGuy]

It's all soap opera, fewer runs, fewer rescues, etc. Those cost money and this is an old/expensive show now that doesn't pull ratings like it did in the first few seasons. Other than the omniscient and all benevolent St. Gabby, First of Her Name, I didn't hate it, but didn't love it either. And as if Boden can purchase for the entire city. Who tested those gloves? Who gets sued into oblivion if they were repackaged work gloves from Costco and a firefighter loses his hands as a result? Yes, an interesting story with a different ending that we'd come to expect, but not something that would or could happen in a major urban department.

[Dowel Jones]

Not to mention what happens when the glove company with the city contract finds out that the city went somewhere else for the product.  And what company dumps 100 pairs of gloves on a consultant and says "go sell these"?  Too many red flags. 

Gabby is giving Henry McCord a run for his money in the omniscience category.  Why, she's a medic, a firefighter, an arson investigator, a social worker, a private detective.  Yikes.  And I can't even begin to think of the things that could go wrong giving a private individual a ride home in the city ambulance.

[Guildford]

Can they please take any one of the fire trucks out of the station and get them to do something, even if it is to buy ice-cream and have them get a flat tyre or run out of petrol?.....Anything please.

[FnkyChkn34]

Me, watching:  Oh, Gabby's going to do that cliche cover-Casey-with-a-blanket thing and let him sle...

Gabby: wraps blanket around herself

Me: wha--? that selfish b---

Gabby: lays on top of him (with blanket)

Me: You're just making it harder for him to breathe!  Ugh.  Leave him alone.

 

Anyone else have similar thoughts?  Gabby annoyed me more than usual in this episode.  Why are all of the episodes always about her?  Casey is barely ever seen anymore.  Kidd had one or two lines in the whole show?  At least we saw Severide, but oh wait, he was playing Gabby's sidekick.  

I still like this show, but it also has a lot of room for improvement.

[Waterston Fan]

Meh... just meh.... 

Not sure what that was about concerning Sylvie but I wonder if maybe she just didn't want people to know or maybe she just didn't feel like she was ready. 

The only part I liked was Kelly going with Gabby to check things out. 

I still think Julian is a scammer and I would think the Fire Department would talk with him about the products before giving their money away. I think this will come back and bite them in the ass, somehow. 

[mxc90]

7 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

Me, watching:  Oh, Gabby's going to do that cliche cover-Casey-with-a-blanket thing and let him sle...

Gabby: wraps blanket around herself

Me: wha--? that selfish b---

Gabby: lays on top of him (with blanket)

Me: You're just making it harder for him to breathe!  Ugh.  Leave him alone.

 

Anyone else have similar thoughts?  Gabby annoyed me more than usual in this episode.  Why are all of the episodes always about her?  Casey is barely ever seen anymore.  Kidd had one or two lines in the whole show?  At least we saw Severide, but oh wait, he was playing Gabby's sidekick.  

I still like this show, but it also has a lot of room for improvement.

I'm sure there are a lot people in the Chicago universe filing restraining orders against Dawson. She is in everyone's business.

I was thinking the same thing with blanket scene. And when she gave Casey the "How dare you" stare after he questions her judgement, I threw my remote at the TV. Casey has to be fed up with her behavior.   

Are they hinting at a Casey/Dawson break up? When he said  "It doesn't matter how I feel, you're gonna do whatever you're gonna do anyway" and walked away seems to be the warning signs. Next week, I can see Casey snapping at her for going to a dangerous location looking for Bria.

I was surprised Dawson didn't interfere with the other EMTs doing their duty.

Dawson seemed to be showing signs of remorse with her talk with Sylvie and Sylvie let her off the hook saying their communication is fine. Shame Sylvie! Shame!

Did Boden write a personal or company check? All he had to say: I am not authorize for large expenditures.

 Eamonn Walker's acting coach should be fired!

[iMonrey]

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Gabby annoyed me more than usual in this episode.  Why are all of the episodes always about her?  Casey is barely ever seen anymore.  Kidd had one or two lines in the whole show?  At least we saw Severide, but oh wait, he was playing Gabby's sidekick. 

I wish the network or someone in charge of this show would take a look at the declining ratings and realize the audience isn't as enamored of Gabby as they seem to think. It's all Gabby, all the time, she always has to get personally involved with every hard case she comes across. Why do they think she's so popular? Is it because of the rabid Twitter fans of Casey/Dawson? Because clearly those Twitter fans are not bringing the ratings. Maybe everyone else is sick of her, you think? Maybe that's why the ratings are falling? 

I mean, who is this show's target audience? You have to guess that it's primarily male, and Gabby simply isn't hot enough to drive that demographic. Even if she was, the audience is going to be more interested in watching exciting action sequences than following Gabby around as she searches for her latest sad sack to browbeat into compliance and betterment. This isn't Chicago Social Services. 

And, you figure if they are trying to appeal to a female audience, that audience is going to be more interested in characters like Casey and Severide than Gabby. So what exactly is her appeal supposed to be?

[Dowel Jones]

1 hour ago, iMonrey said:

This isn't Chicago Social Services.

Not another Wolf franchise.  Please, nooooo.

[doLLish]

2 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I wish the network or someone in charge of this show would take a look at the declining ratings and realize the audience isn't as enamored of Gabby as they seem to think. It's all Gabby, all the time, she always has to get personally involved with every hard case she comes across. Why do they think she's so popular? Is it because of the rabid Twitter fans of Casey/Dawson? Because clearly those Twitter fans are not bringing the ratings. Maybe everyone else is sick of her, you think? Maybe that's why the ratings are falling? 

I mean, who is this show's target audience? You have to guess that it's primarily male, and Gabby simply isn't hot enough to drive that demographic. Even if she was, the audience is going to be more interested in watching exciting action sequences than following Gabby around as she searches for her latest sad sack to browbeat into compliance and betterment. This isn't Chicago Social Services. 

And, you figure if they are trying to appeal to a female audience, that audience is going to be more interested in characters like Casey and Severide than Gabby. So what exactly is her appeal supposed to be?

The Gabby/Casey thing has for sure contributed to the shows decline, simply because they are where the focus shifted to. A big difference from the early seasons to now is how much of a true ensemble cast it was then vs focusing on 1 or 2 characters now while throwing everyone else a bone once in a while. The focus used to be on the firehouse. Period. Everything revolved around the firehouse. That’s what made me fall in love with the show. The loss of a character like Mills may have seemed small at the time, but it had a big effect. Brett did not replace Shay, no matter what anyone thinks. If Gabby/Casey were to be endgame, it should have been a very slow burn, a “will they or won’t they” over multiple seasons. I personally would have really loved to see them in other relationships or even single for awhile. It was too much, too soon. They also don’t have the chemistry the creators think they do. I hate that the powers that be think that everyone loves these two together, I do also contribute it to the very vocal minority fans of the show but somebody has to look at declining ratings and realize maybe they went wrong somewhere.

Either way how we feel doesn’t matter. I read an interview recently and Gabby/Casey are supposedly rock solid forever and ever. 

[momtoall]

The  gloves!  This season's "Boden's job in jeopardy"???

[Sake614]

You guys, I’m out. I finally deleted the show from my Tivo. It had such promise in the beginning but I just can’t anymore. 

[Guildford]

43 minutes ago, momtoall said:

The  gloves!  This season's "Boden's job in jeopardy"???

His Job should be in jeopardy for paying $5K for fireproof gloves that haven't even been tested.

[Dowel Jones]

It was only $3338 after the "discount".  Which he paid to the consulting company.  Riiiight.

[Waterston Fan]

13 hours ago, Dowel Jones said:

It was only $3338 after the "discount".  Which he paid to the consulting company.  Riiiight.

 

14 hours ago, Guildford said:

His Job should be in jeopardy for paying $5K for fireproof gloves that haven't even been tested.

It should be coming and it would be pathetic if his job isn't in jeopardy. 

[momtoall]

10 minutes ago, Waterston Fan said:

 

It should be coming and it would be pathetic if his job isn't in jeopardy. 

Maybe this time it will take!!  Then Gabby can become Chief Dawson.

[preeya]

On 1/11/2018 at 8:22 PM, doLLish said:

I don’t really have much to say about the episode except I liked that Donna’s brother turned out to be a good guy. That storyline usually always ends up with the guy being a scammer and disappearing but that was a nice little plot twist. Don’t know what Dawson had going on and don’t care. Sylvie and Antonio got back together and broke up again? ...Okay.

This show is so unbelievably boring now. It used to be one of the few shows that would get my undivided attention (aside from commercial breaks) but now I have to actively try, HARD, to pay attention. And often fail.

I cant put my finger on what’s different, if it’s one thing or a culmination of things but this is not the Chicago Fire I fell in love with. I’m gonna rewatch some of season one to see if I can tell exactly what’s changed. 

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I'm not yet sold that he's a "good guy." In fact, I'm still leaning in the other direction that he's playing a con on Boden. The showrunners have really "dumbed down" Boden if they expect us to believe he would fall for something so obvious, and the fact that a chief in a firehouse has any authority to make equipment purchases on a whim.

Edited January 15, 2018 by preeya

[juliet73]

I'm so over Gabby being in EVERYONE's business!  Her job is to try to save them medically at the scene and then transport to the hospital.  After that, she needs to shut her mouth and walk away.  It's not her business if this SIXTEEN year old girl is living with a drug addicted parent!  Sadly, there are kids a lot less younger dealing with this type of situation that need way more help than this girl.  Why doesn't she call CPS on all of them?  I love how she just leaves the bar without telling anyone to go walk the streets looking for this girl.  What happens if/when Gabby finds her?  Is she going to try to adopt her like she did with Louie?   

I'm glad the brother wasn't a scumbag, but if Boden was apprehensive about the BIL's intentions, why didn't he say something?  He didn't need to say that he thought he was being shady, etc.  Why couldn't he just tell the BIL he needed more information about the company/testing/safety before he could sign off on it?

I'm glad Silvie and Antonio are over...again.  Otis and Cruz once again and no worthwhile storylines.  Mouch was barely in it.

This show is declining because 1. They rarely go out on fire calls anymore.  Yes, I know it's expensive but if they made the show more exciting, more viewers might tune in again.  2. EVERY episode revolves around Gabby!  I believe the show intended to have Severide and Casey as the "stars" and everyone else was supposed to be an EQUAL supporting character.  Now it's the Gabby show and the rest of cast is in minimal roles and to remind the audience that we should worship the ground Gabby walks on.  3.  Recycled plots.  Boden's job is in jeopardy, Severide is a manwhore,  51 is the only competent firehouse where everyone likes being with each other 24/7, 365 days a year, Gabby is the BEST firefighter/paramedic/social worker/arson investigator/structural engineer/bartender/wife on the planet!

[iMonrey]

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What happens if/when Gabby finds her?  Is she going to try to adopt her like she did with Louie? 

Yeah that's probably where they're going.

[12catcrazy]

Yikes, this show is a hot mess.  Even when they do the occasional fire scene, the people involved don't seem to have the right equipment and go rushing into buildings without any regard to safety.

I like Gabby but she really is over the top.  Future episodes we can see her go back to school to get her MSW and THEN we'll have the crossover Chicago Social Services show...

I wonder if Brett is going to have the "shocking" pregnancy which has been mentioned for upcoming episodes.  It's really the only reason I can for all the hot n heavy Brett and Antonio whipping off their clothes and doing the nasty.  Can't see any other reason for that being in the show without some kind of fall-out.   And it almost seems as if the producers have to keep finding things for Jon Seda.  He's barely in Chicago PD and since Chicago Justice tanked, they must have a contract with him where he needs to be paid for a certain number of episodes or appearances.  

[FnkyChkn34]

45 minutes ago, 12catcrazy said:

... And it almost seems as if the producers have to keep finding things for Jon Seda.  He's barely in Chicago PD and since Chicago Justice tanked, they must have a contract with him where he needs to be paid for a certain number of episodes or appearances.  

I don't know what kind of contract he has, but they are really wasting his talent every time he is not featured.  He's one of the few who is actually a very good actor.  They need better writing for him too.

[Dowel Jones]

2 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

I don't know what kind of contract he has,

"I get to bang Brett Sylvie..."

[WendyCR72]

46 minutes ago, Dowel Jones said:

"I get to bang Brett Sylvie..."

Actually, it's Sylvie Brett, but yeah. LOL!

[belletane]

On 12/01/2018 at 4:22 AM, doLLish said:

I don’t really have much to say about the episode except I liked that Donna’s brother turned out to be a good guy. That storyline usually always ends up with the guy being a scammer and disappearing but that was a nice little plot twist. Don’t know what Dawson had going on and don’t care. Sylvie and Antonio got back together and broke up again? ...Okay.

This show is so unbelievably boring now. It used to be one of the few shows that would get my undivided attention (aside from commercial breaks) but now I have to actively try, HARD, to pay attention. And often fail.

I cant put my finger on what’s different, if it’s one thing or a culmination of things but this is not the Chicago Fire I fell in love with. I’m gonna rewatch some of season one to see if I can tell exactly what’s changed. 

For one thing dawson happened. Once she got her claws into Casey he lost his balls and became her yes man (just about) . Cant bear to see his wonderful character stuck with her because she is just a Mary Sue who doesnt deserve him.  The writing and some plotlines have got steadily sillier and their continuity is atrocious They are constantly shoving dawson into every single story in nearly every episode and she knows everything about everything so can do anything at all and that is just killing it.  Think also that the 'action' also seems to be way less now (it's called Chicago Fire for a reason...yeah?) . My personal opinion is that they should have left it as the fabulous stand alone show it was but it started to slide when PD appeared and then Med.  Seems like they got too greedy and sacrificed Fire so they could run 3 shows and then Justice just took things OTT. Sad. It could be so great but seems to have had its day now unfortunately...at least that's how it's looking according to the recent viewing figures.

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[belletane]

On 15/01/2018 at 10:29 PM, juliet73 said:

I'm so over Gabby being in EVERYONE's business!  Her job is to try to save them medically at the scene and then transport to the hospital.  After that, she needs to shut her mouth and walk away.  It's not her business if this SIXTEEN year old girl is living with a drug addicted parent!  Sadly, there are kids a lot less younger dealing with this type of situation that need way more help than this girl.  Why doesn't she call CPS on all of them?  I love how she just leaves the bar without telling anyone to go walk the streets looking for this girl.  What happens if/when Gabby finds her?  Is she going to try to adopt her like she did with Louie?   

I'm glad the brother wasn't a scumbag, but if Boden was apprehensive about the BIL's intentions, why didn't he say something?  He didn't need to say that he thought he was being shady, etc.  Why couldn't he just tell the BIL he needed more information about the company/testing/safety before he could sign off on it?

I'm glad Silvie and Antonio are over...again.  Otis and Cruz once again and no worthwhile storylines.  Mouch was barely in it.

This show is declining because 1. They rarely go out on fire calls anymore.  Yes, I know it's expensive but if they made the show more exciting, more viewers might tune in again.  2. EVERY episode revolves around Gabby!  I believe the show intended to have Severide and Casey as the "stars" and everyone else was supposed to be an EQUAL supporting character.  Now it's the Gabby show and the rest of cast is in minimal roles and to remind the audience that we should worship the ground Gabby walks on.  3.  Recycled plots.  Boden's job is in jeopardy, Severide is a manwhore,  51 is the only competent firehouse where everyone likes being with each other 24/7, 365 days a year, Gabby is the BEST firefighter/paramedic/social worker/arson investigator/structural engineer/bartender/wife on the planet!

OMG you are so right in everything you say. People are deserting the show in droves for all the reasons you list above! They should have left this as the fab stand alone show it was instead of this stupid 'One Chicago' thing. As far as we are concerned that's where it all went wrong and Fire began to decline.  Sick to death of dawson - she is the main thing that has caused figures to plummet l think. Dawsey should never have happened but l guess it was always endgame unfortunately.Wish they had never paired the wonderful Casey with such a horrid character.  Jesse Spencer is the leading star of the show, with Taylor the second lead, but the runners are trying to shove dawson into the leading spot and it isnt working at all. Thank goodness people are voting with their remotes and tuning out - the showrunners might begin to look at why if they have any common sense but they only seem to listen to the dawson fans on twitter who would have them believe everyone loves dawson and how wonderful she is! Well they couldnt be more wrong! They only need to look on here to see a much truer opinion but they dont really seem to care! They'll just run it into the ground and realise too late that they should have listened to us!

[belletane]

On 14/01/2018 at 2:24 AM, Sake614 said:

You guys, I’m out. I finally deleted the show from my Tivo. It had such promise in the beginning but I just can’t anymore. 

That's really sad but lm not surprised - lots of other people are voting with their devices and remotes as well. The runners need to make radical improvement to this show or this season will be their last. They just dont seem to care any more, nor do NBC. Sad for the actors because they can only do so much with the material they are faced with. And as for dawson - hope she leaves with her dad, for good.

On 14/01/2018 at 5:08 PM, momtoall said:

Maybe this time it will take!!  Then Gabby can become Chief Dawson.

Yeah that sounds about right! Or maybe she could get Chief Hatcher's job and just make the odd guest apperance ...please?

Edited January 18, 2018 by belletane

[belletane]

On 13/01/2018 at 5:12 PM, iMonrey said:

I wish the network or someone in charge of this show would take a look at the declining ratings and realize the audience isn't as enamored of Gabby as they seem to think. It's all Gabby, all the time, she always has to get personally involved with every hard case she comes across. Why do they think she's so popular? Is it because of the rabid Twitter fans of Casey/Dawson? Because clearly those Twitter fans are not bringing the ratings. Maybe everyone else is sick of her, you think? Maybe that's why the ratings are falling? 

I mean, who is this show's target audience? You have to guess that it's primarily male, and Gabby simply isn't hot enough to drive that demographic. Even if she was, the audience is going to be more interested in watching exciting action sequences than following Gabby around as she searches for her latest sad sack to browbeat into compliance and betterment. This isn't Chicago Social Services. 

And, you figure if they are trying to appeal to a female audience, that audience is going to be more interested in characters like Casey and Severide than Gabby. So what exactly is her appeal supposed to be?

Problem is...the showrunners appear to be obsessed with dawson. No idea quite why either. She is a horrid obnoxious and self centred, nacissistic character and l hate seeing Casey paired with her, no way does she deserve him! People are fed up with her now and she's in literally everything in every damn show. So sick of this now. Everything seems to have to revolve around her all the time. Even Casey and Severide now. Eurgh. They are supposed to be the stars, not dawson. Largely due to twitter the showrunners seem to think she is adored by all and this is just NOT the case. They should look outside the little twitter world to get the bigger picture. The show has become boring unfortunately despite the presence of some wonderful characters and actors. The plotlines are repetitive, the action has nearly disappeared, and NBC haven't helped matter by moving Fire's day and time! 

[FnkyChkn34]

Regarding Gabby:  Who has a public Twitter account?  Start tweeting at Derek Haas.  He seems to be very receptive and interactive with fans, and maybe that's one way of letting our frustrations be heard?  In a polite, respectful way to the actress, of course.

[belletane]

4 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

Regarding Gabby:  Who has a public Twitter account?  Start tweeting at Derek Haas.  He seems to be very receptive and interactive with fans, and maybe that's one way of letting our frustrations be heard?  In a polite, respectful way to the actress, of course.

There are LOTS of us over on twitter and l would encourage all of you on here to open an account and use it! All the dawsey fans hang out over there and act like rabid idiots if you dare to tweet something they dont like! The dawson hate isnt really the actress's fault - its the character we cant stand! We tweet Derek and make our opinions well known quite a lot but they clearly take no notice of anyone apart from the dawsey fans because they (the showrunners) are obsessed with dawson and think that she is way more popular than she is! We just cant get it through to them that she really isnt that well liked and that the show could be way better if the character was written out or at least wasnt shoved in our faces all the time! lmho she is one of the main reasons this show is taking so much flak and losing viewers. Derek Haas only ever interacts with the dawsey fans so he clearly isnt receptive to anyone who doesn't worship dawson...

[FnkyChkn34]

1 hour ago, belletane said:

There are LOTS of us over on twitter and l would encourage all of you on here to open an account and use it! All the dawsey fans hang out over there and act like rabid idiots if you dare to tweet something they dont like! The dawson hate isnt really the actress's fault - its the character we cant stand! We tweet Derek and make our opinions well known quite a lot but they clearly take no notice of anyone apart from the dawsey fans because they (the showrunners) are obsessed with dawson and think that she is way more popular than she is! We just cant get it through to them that she really isnt that well liked and that the show could be way better if the character was written out or at least wasnt shoved in our faces all the time! lmho she is one of the main reasons this show is taking so much flak and losing viewers. Derek Haas only ever interacts with the dawsey fans so he clearly isnt receptive to anyone who doesn't worship dawson...

Ah, thanks for the update.  That's a shame.  Haas must be a fan then, and not care about much else.

I don't think she needs to be written off, but just much less focus!

[Pallada]

On January 16, 2018 at 3:29 AM, juliet73 said:

Gabby is the BEST firefighter/paramedic/social worker/arson investigator/structural engineer/bartender/wife on the planet!

You can add detective to this list and I am pretty sure we'll soon see more of her amazing talents...like foster mom of a troubled 16 yo... Lol Derek says Dawson is his fave character and I guess he considers it his personal failure as a writer that there's so much Gabbby hate around. And instead of tuning her down like the show fans are asking him to do, he's giving her more and more screen time, showcasing her various talents and trying to convince us that she is a multi-layered vulnerable yet strong character...I doubt he'll ever realise that Dawson is beyond redemption!

[SnarkySheep]

1) Call me silly, but how could Chief Boden buy $5k worth of ANYTHING for the city from his brother-in-law?? And he was supposed to make the check out to Julian Whoever Consulting, not even like it was hidden in a neutral company name! Even if they were the best firefighting gloves in the history of the world, an outside observer would see it as favoritism. The entire storyline could have been avoided had Boden simply told the guy, "Sorry, I can't make city purchases from family members." Done, end of story. But it was like the concept never even crossed his mind.

2) I'm still trying to figure out why exactly Sylvie and Antonio aren't supposed to be together. When they ended things the first time, he was like, "I'm way older than you, I have kids, blah blah blah..." Yes, that can sometimes be difficult; but people IRL have all kinds of issues and this among them is hardly uncommon or insurmountable. (Notice how his daughter, who now lives with him, was conveniently never around anytime Antonio brought Sylvie to his place for sexytimes?) IMO it just feels like the writers are trying to manufacture some drama, some reason for a couple to have difficulty, and they are totally out of ideas about how to bring that about in a realistic fashion.

3) As a person living with a chronic pain condition, I am thoroughly sick of TV shows depicting everyone who uses painkillers as an addict. In reality, something like THREE PERCENT of people with legit prescriptions develop an addiction. TV and movies are only adding to the misconceptions, which add to the stigma and shaming of people who only want enough relief to go about their normal lives again. Bria said her dad had a legit workplace injury, and it hadn't even been all that long ago; yet the whole story had to do with his "addiction" to pills and detoxing, so he could be able to care for her again and Dawson could feel good about them living happily ever after. At NO point did anyone address the underlying issue, which is he has an injury that causes him enough pain that he cannot work. How is taking away his painkillers going to help him here?

[belletane]

On 21/01/2018 at 4:46 PM, Pallada said:

You can add detective to this list and I am pretty sure we'll soon see more of her amazing talents...like foster mom of a troubled 16 yo... Lol Derek says Dawson is his fave character and I guess he considers it his personal failure as a writer that there's so much Gabbby hate around. And instead of tuning her down like the show fans are asking him to do, he's giving her more and more screen time, showcasing her various talents and trying to convince us that she is a multi-layered vulnerable yet strong character...I doubt he'll ever realise that Dawson is beyond redemption!

You are completely right with everything you are saying. l think Mr Haas really just has his head in the sand where Dawson is concerned and just can't or wont accept how hated a character she really is. He seems to be in the little twitter bubble maybe? Where the dawson shippers live? Well he really should broaden his horizons and have a look round to see what people are really feeling, thinking, and saying about her. It would seem that she is irredeemable now but the day Casey becomes the subject of hate because of her is the day l'm out of this fandom and many many others will leave with me l'm sure. The writers and runners are tanking this show bit by bit with silly, weak, unrealistic storylines and dawson's behaviour.

[Chas411]

Wow... Felt bad for Antonio... She could have  at least eaten the meal before leaving him high and dry..

[Spike]

Antonio is almost 50 and Sylvie is still in her 20s.  It’s just creepy.

[WinJet0819]

On 2/3/2018 at 11:54 AM, Chas411 said:

Wow... Felt bad for Antonio... She could have  at least eaten the meal before leaving him high and dry..

Frankly, I never understood why Sylvie decided they shouldn't be together anyway. This whole "we hurt each other" stuff makes no sense. When they broke up last year, it was due to the fact that Antonio's absent ex-wife had a problem with Sylvie spending time with their son and getting to know him. Antonio simply didn't want Brett dragged into his crazy ex-wife's drama and felt they weren't ready. Neither of them hurt the other. So Sylvie saying that they hurt each other as the reason they couldn't work was just stupid. If he makes you happy, and you make him happy, just go for it. Otherwise, this was a huge and inaccurate waste of time by the writers. They tease putting them back together, only to have it last 2 episodes? What kind of thinking is that? Other characters besides Dawson and Casey should be able to have relationships. And Brett and Dawson would work as their relationship wouldn't be thrown in our face, as both are on different shows.

[FnkyChkn34]

On 2/21/2018 at 10:04 PM, Spike said:

Antonio is almost 50 and Sylvie is still in her 20s.  It’s just creepy.

When did either show reveal Antonio's age?  Jon Seda might be 47, but he can play any age he wants.  Kara Killmer will be 30 in just a few months.  Sorry, but your post implies that there is a 25+ year age difference when in real life it's only 17-18 years, and on the show for their characters, it's most likely even less.  I don't find it creepy at all, plus Jon Seda is hot.  

[belletane]

On 13/01/2018 at 8:16 PM, doLLish said:

The Gabby/Casey thing has for sure contributed to the shows decline, simply because they are where the focus shifted to. A big difference from the early seasons to now is how much of a true ensemble cast it was then vs focusing on 1 or 2 characters now while throwing everyone else a bone once in a while. The focus used to be on the firehouse. Period. Everything revolved around the firehouse. That’s what made me fall in love with the show. The loss of a character like Mills may have seemed small at the time, but it had a big effect. Brett did not replace Shay, no matter what anyone thinks. If Gabby/Casey were to be endgame, it should have been a very slow burn, a “will they or won’t they” over multiple seasons. I personally would have really loved to see them in other relationships or even single for awhile. It was too much, too soon. They also don’t have the chemistry the creators think they do. I hate that the powers that be think that everyone loves these two together, I do also contribute it to the very vocal minority fans of the show but somebody has to look at declining ratings and realize maybe they went wrong somewhere.

Either way how we feel doesn’t matter. I read an interview recently and Gabby/Casey are supposedly rock solid forever and ever. 

l do hope Dawsey comes to an end and soon! That is contributing big style to the decline of this show and much as l adore Casey, Dawson has no chemistry with anyone on the show other than herself and that is so obvious l wonder why the show runners can't see it!