Mind Your Surroundings: Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow and Other Superhero Universes

[Starfish35]

2 minutes ago, scarynikki12 said:

The combined panel was in addition to the regular ones and was a big DC event in Hall H. That was the last time Cassidy made her joke about reading comics since it was made to Geoff Johns. 

Lol! I remember that - so awkward! But I didn’t remember that they also had the individual show panels.  Thanks.  

[Chaser]

I think that was Arrow panel that EBR, KC and CL didn’t attend. That SDCC had some moments. I still remember the fandom freak out when SA said the ship had sailed on Laurel and Sara. 

Edited June 25, 2018 by Chaser

[Primal Slayer]

Melissa is going to be one busy girl come July. CW aint letting her miss anything. 

[Primal Slayer]

The best DC show is making its return to SDCC as well (should be guaranteed viewing for all Arrowverse writers).

 

10:00–11:00 a.m. Young Justice: Outsiders Special Video Presentation and Q&A — The fans have waited long enough and it’s time for a first look at one of the most highly anticipated shows of the year.  In Young Justice: Outsiders, the teenage Super Heroes of the DC Universe come of age in an animated world of super-powers, Super-Villains and super secrets.  This time, the team faces its greatest challenge yet as it takes on meta-human trafficking and the terrifying threat it creates for a society caught in the crossfire of a genetic arms race spanning the globe and the galaxy.  Join producers Greg Weisman, Brandon Vietti,art director Phil Bourassa, voice director Jamie Thomasson and members of the voice cast, Troy Baker and Stephaine Lemelin as they give you an inside look at what it means to be an outsider.  Produced by Warner Bros. Animation, Young Justice: Outsiders is coming soon to the DC Universe digital streaming service.  Become a fan of the show on Facebook at www.facebook.com/YoungJusticeDC and follow DC Universe on Twitter at @TheDCUniverse.  Room 6DE

12:30-1:30 p.m.  DC Super Hero Girls Special Video Presentation and Q&A –– The DC Super Hero Girls universe continues to expand with new original graphic novels Out of the Bottle and Search for Atlantis and an all-new animated action-comedy series featuring fresh character designs and storytelling from Emmy®–winning producer Lauren Faust (Super Best Friends Forever, My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic, Foster’s Home for Imaginary Friends).  The world may know them as Wonder Woman, Supergirl and Batgirl, but not-so-typical teenagers Diana, Kara and Barbara, alongside their Super Hero friends have much more to deal with than just protecting the citizens of Metropolis from some of the most sinister school-aged Super-Villains of the DC Universe.  After all, being teens is tough enough, what with school, friends, family and the chaos that comes with managing a social life.  But add super powers and a secret identity to the mix, and things can get a lot more complicated.  Join DC Group Editor Marie Javins for a sneak peek at upcoming books, and producer Lauren Faustand other members of the creative team for a first look at this upcoming series.  DC Super Hero Girls is coming soon to Cartoon Network.  Follow Cartoon Network on Twitter at @CartoonNetwork and DC Super Hero Girls on Instagram at @dcsuperherogirls.  Room 6DE.

 

https://www.newsarama.com/40539-wbtv-s-arrow-flash-supergirl-black-lightning-krypton-legends-of-tomorrow-riverdale-sdcc-panel-details.html

[Trini]

10 hours ago, tv echo said:

From Super Heroes Con IV...

LOL! I'm glad Cosnett is milking as much as he can from his one season of Flash.

[Primal Slayer]

9 minutes ago, Trini said:

LOL! I'm glad Cosnett is milking as much as he can from his one season of Flash.

Im still pissed we never got his E2 version.

[KenyaJ]

4 hours ago, Chaser said:

I think that was Arrow panel that EBR, KC and CL didn’t attend. That SDCC had some moments. I still remember the fandom freak out when SA said the ship had sailed on Laurel and Sara. 

LOL. A couple of weeks ago, I was trying to find something old in the spoiler discussion thread, and stumbled upon the posts from the day he said that. Naturally, I got sucked in to re-reading all the ZOMG posts and the ensuing freakout from all corners of the fandom. My heart goes out to all the people who were hanging onto the "this season" part of his comments like a life raft, praying that it wouldn't last past S3. It should've been obvious from the way he kept grinning like an idiot every time he talked about it that it wasn't going to be a fleeting thing. 

The joint panel that year was just way too many people on stage. I hope they never do that again, at least not with that many participants.

[Primal Slayer]

I feel like it's high time that the Arrowverse forms an official Justice League. In their case, a new Justice Society (since they can use that name) since the crossovers are the main time when everyone gets together.

[tv echo]

Freedom Fighters: The Ray Season 2 to Debut Next Month
Posted by Dan Wickline June 25, 2018
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/06/25/freedom-fighters-the-ray-season-2-next-month/

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Remember back in December, around the time of the Crisis on Earth-X crossover series, that we met a new superhero in the Arrowverse called The Ray? The character was played by Russell Tovey, and even though he was fighting Nazis on Earth-X with the resistance and his boyfriend Citizen Cold (Wentworth Miller), he was actually from Earth-1. And after the crossover, there was an animated series called Freedom Fighters: The Ray that debuted on CW Seed in six segments that started telling us the story about how Ray Terrill got his powers and ended up on the alternate Earth… but ended abruptly with Ray being hit with a tranquilizer and taken by mysterious person(s). Well, the second season of that series is going to be debuting at San Diego Comic-Con next month and the return to air on CW Seed.

Freedom Fighters: The Ray: All his life, Ray Terrill has fought injustice, dreaming of making a real difference like his older brother, a Marine who was killed in Afghanistan. One day, he stumbles upon a dying superhero from another Earth and is stunned to find that this superhero looks just like him—because it is! The dying Ray Terrill of Earth-X transfers photokinetic energy to this Earth’s Ray, making him a superhero – THE RAY. However, Ray quickly learns being a Super Hero isn’t all hanging muggers from streetlamps and fighting giant robots. As the evil Nazi New Reichsman of Earth-X, led by Overgirl, close in, The Ray must learn to harness his powers by coming to terms with his true self, even if that means also finally coming out of the closet to his parents. The fate of Earth-X depends on it! Based on the DC characters, the animated series is produced by Berlanti Productions in association with Blue Ribbon Content, Warner Bros. Television Group’s digital studio. New episodes stream on CW Seed, starting July 18.

On Wednesday, July 18th in Ballroom 20, WBTV is hosting a screening night from 6 p.m. to 10 p.m. which will air the pilot of their new series Manifest, an advanced screening of an episode of The 100, and a new episode of Freedom Fighters: The Ray. It says that new episodes will be available on CW Seed the same day.

Edited June 26, 2018 by tv echo

[Trini]

Now with Supergirl done for the season, I realized that now 3 out of the 4 Arrow-verse shows have had time travel in a season finale. Berlanti better make a memo about that! It's happened too many times.

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8 hours ago, Primal Slayer said:

I feel like it's high time that the Arrowverse forms an official Justice League. In their case, a new Justice Society (since they can use that name) since the crossovers are the main time when everyone gets together.

They kinda unofficially have with the past 2 crossovers; they may not want to bother with making it official since they only get together once a year. I don't mind that they haven't made it official; everyone knows the TV League is working better than the movie version.

[way2interested]

21 minutes ago, Trini said:

Now with Supergirl done for the season, I realized that now 3 out of the 4 Arrow-verse shows have had time travel in a season finale. Berlanti better make a memo about that! It's happened too many times.

2/4 of the shows this season had a kid subplot which might be bumped up to 3/4 next season (given Nora and if Alex is still on the kid thing next year), so it seems like he's ok with sharing some ideas, I guess?

[Primal Slayer]

38 minutes ago, Trini said:

Now with Supergirl done for the season, I realized that now 3 out of the 4 Arrow-verse shows have had time travel in a season finale. Berlanti better make a memo about that! It's happened too many times.

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They kinda unofficially have with the past 2 crossovers; they may not want to bother with making it official since they only get together once a year. I don't mind that they haven't made it official; everyone knows the TV League is working better than the movie version.

And 2/4 dealt with heroes secret identity being outed to the public. 

I rather have something official and give them an official spot to hang. It'd help change the crossovers a little bit and help give notice to the world. The JL/Avengers only ever get together for huge threats anyway so it would be the same as that. 

[scarynikki12]

Now that Supergirl's season has finally ended, I'm rewatching Crisis on Earth-X.  Whoever was tasked with Stein's death, and the immediate reactions of the characters, needs to be in charge of every death on every Arrowverse show going forward.  Jax was with him when he died and broke the news to, and comforted, Clarissa and Lily.  Sara arrived the moment after and was given private time to say goodbye.  The Legends were all given moments where they reacted to the news, as were the members of the Flash team.  Everyone who had a personal connection to Stein was given their due in reacting to his death and it worked.  I'd rather Stein lived and Jax still be around but, since that wasn't what happened, the way it was handled was well done.  If this person/team had been given Q's death scene on Arrow, then I think Sara would have gotten the goodbye scene she was denied.  LOT later made a point to give Sara and Jax a goodbye scene and he was just going home to Central City.  Meanwhile Arrow pretends she doesn't exist and thinks an appropriate goodbye is with her father's corpse while a stranger looks on.

Another thing from Crisis that I hope gets remembered next season on Arrow is the fact that the doppelgangers are not the same as each other.  It's fun, in an annoying way, to yell at the tv whenever Arrow acts like/says that Black Siren and Laurel are the same person but they aren't.  Oliver recognized that the man who killed himself in the Star Labs pipeline wasn't his friend, Sara recognized that the murderous Nazi wasn't her father, and everyone recognized that the archer leading the charge wasn't their Oliver.  So stop acting like Siren has anything in common with Laurel other than her face.  Didn't she even say that she goes by Dinah on her Earth early in the season?  I want to say in the same episode she killed that woman and stole her shoes.  Quentin lost his mind and got himself killed for a stranger.  OTA and the noobs should be furious as hell with Siren and want to take her down instead of working with her against Diaz.  One of the things that Flash gets consistently right is the recognition that the doppelgangers (other than Caitlin) are different people who happen to have the same face.  Earth Prime Barry didn't consider himself married to Iris before they signed the document just because their Earth 2 doppels were, nor was he concerned about Cisco turning evil just because the Earth 2 one was.  The show has been having "fun" with the different Wells' and they haven't asked us to believe that Harry is the same as HR, or the robot one, or the Hugh Hefner one.  Harry is Harry and the others are themselves.  I still don't get why they automatically assumed Caitlin would be evil just because Earth 2 was but that's the exception.  Arrow needs to follow this consistency and recognize that Black Siren and Laurel Lance are two different people. 

We're less than a month away from Comic Con and I hope we get some good stuff about this year's crossover. 

[Primal Slayer]

While I agree that doppelgangers are different from each other, we've also seen those differences vary earth to earth. E1/2 seem to have a lot of similarities, Iris/Barry still get married, Barry is still in the crime field, Iris actually joined the police force like E1 Iris wanted, etc. So characters are still able to relate to these doppelgangers to an extent. Even Barry attempted to find the good in Caitlyn. Hell even Harrison Wells from across the multiverse are all vain enough to start up their own council and give each other advice. 

So while they shouldn't be treated as carbon copies, it is possible to see part of the person you knew in other variations. Arrow was just lazy with Quentin but with Siren, she knew the differences but also had a fondness that was able to grow to her seeing him as a father figure. 

[tv echo]

Isn't it odd that Arrow is omitted from this tweet?...

[tv echo]

Kevin Feige Comments On ‘Young Avengers’ Joining The Marvel Cinematic Universe
by SHAWN MADDEN on JUNE 25, 2018
https://heroichollywood.com/kevin-feige-young-avengers-marvel-future/

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Introduced back in 2005, the Young Avengers are a team of adolescent characters who tend to have connections to the Avengers in the comics. This team includes the daughter of Scott Lang, a.k.a. Ant-Man, Cassie Lang, who goes by the code name Stature. Cassie is the first member of the team to appear in live-action in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. However, another Young Avenger almost joined the MCU in this year’s Black Panther, as director Ryan Coogler considered using Elijah Bradley, a.k.a. Patriot, in an early draft of the film’s script.
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Could we possibly see the Young Avengers make the leap from the page to the screen in the future? In the upcoming Ant-Man And The Wasp, there’s an interaction between Scott and his daughter which might hint at a heroic future for Cassie. At the press junket for the film, I asked Marvel Studios head Kevin Feige about this interaction and if we could see even more young heroes like the Young Avengers joining Runaways and Cloak And Dagger in the Marvel Cinematic Universe’s future.

“Well…sure. And both of those you just mentioned we talked about for a long time and they went over to be successful TV shows. We’ve always been fans of Power Pack and figuring that out. And yes. So…where and when we would see the evolution of that? I don’t know. And certainly – taking our cue from the comics as we always do – that’s why we wanted Cassie, a very young Cassie in this movie, to be inspired by her father. Just planting seeds.”

Edited June 27, 2018 by tv echo

[tennisgurl]

Saw The Incredibles 2, and I thought it was really cute. Not as dark and complex as the first one, but a lot of fun with some good animation, and I thought it was a natural continuation of the story. 

[tv echo]

FYI: I came across these old auditions for The Flash...

Nathan Reid - "DESMOND PAUL"
Posted: 1 month ago  
https://vimeo.com/271012784
https://vimeo.com/271013191

Niko Koupantsis - "ACOLYTE" (for Ep. 307)
Posted: 2 years ago  
https://vimeo.com/181255615

Jessica Davis - IRIS WEST
Posted: 4 years ago  
https://vimeo.com/84819369 

The Iris West audition included two scenes, both shared with Barry Allen. In the first scene, Barry tells her about going to Starling City and meeting "a girl" there, and Iris gives him the "growing up like brother and sister" line and reassures him that she wants nothing more than for him to find someone who loves him. In the second scene, Iris is upset after seeing a girl being killed in the street and tells Barry about glimpsing "a flicker of light, a glimpse of wind" that was pulling people out of the street.

Edited June 27, 2018 by tv echo

[tv echo]

And here's some auditions for Legends of Tomorrow...

Kassie Thornton - "LILY"
Posted: 1 month ago  
https://vimeo.com/270546440

Latiesha Dunbar - "AMAYA"
Posted: 4 months ago  
https://vimeo.com/256244862

Brandon Allen Kappen - "STEVEN"
Posted: 5 months ago 
https://vimeo.com/251693326

Shonnon Marshall - YOUNG BARACK OBAMA
Posted: 5 months ago  
https://vimeo.com/252088956

Daniel Spink - LEIF ERIKSON
Posted: 9 months ago  
https://vimeo.com/235872318

Catherine Lonsdale - HEDY LAMARR
Posted: 10 months ago  
https://vimeo.com/231433003

Sarah Himadeh - "ZARI"
Posted: 1 year ago 
https://vimeo.com/216702585

Ian Verdon - "COLIN OSPREY" 
Posted: 2 years ago 
https://vimeo.com/141378377

The "Colin Osprey" audition sounds like it was an audition for the role of Connor Hawke in the "Star City 2046" episode.

Edited June 27, 2018 by tv echo

[Trini]

[Trini]

[Primal Slayer]

It's weird that DC isnt bringing Titans to SDCC. This is their big live action show! Yet they arent going to put any big promo behind it...

[Trini]

31 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said:

It's weird that DC isnt bringing Titans to SDCC. This is their big live action show! Yet they arent going to put any big promo behind it...

I haven't been following the production of this; but is there even a tentative release date? Even if there isn't a panel, maybe they'll release a teaser trailer?

[Primal Slayer]

Just now, Trini said:

I haven't been following the production of this; but is there even a tentative release date? Even if there isn't a panel, maybe they'll release a teaser trailer?

Nothing about DCU has been revealed (though we are supposed to get something "BIG" tomorrow) yet. Though they should've just wrapped up production on their first season. 

[bijoux]

I am very impressed with Gotham’s poster. Hat off to the artist.

[Trini]

[tv echo]

[tv echo]

‘The Walking Dead’ Star Chandler Riggs Wants to Join ‘The Flash’
By CAMERON BONOMOLO - June 25, 2018
http://comicbook.com/dc/2018/06/26/the-walking-dead-chandler-riggs-marvel-DC-the-flash/#7

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While recently speaking at a panel being conducted at Fandemic Tour Sacramento, Riggs expressed interest in meeting the Scarlet Speedster at some point in the not too distant future. Here’s what went down when he was asked if he’d prefer to be in a Marvel or DC production:

Asked during his appearance at Fandemic Tour Sacramento over the weekend if he’s starred in any superhero movies, Riggs said, “I wish,” before being asked if he prefers Marvel or DC.

“Honestly, I really like both, but The Flash is one of my favorite shows of all time,” Riggs said. “So I would say something DC.”

“There’s room for you on The Flash,” said panel moderator Clare Kramer of the hit CW television series.

“Yeah, I hope so,” a chuckling Riggs replied. “We’ll see!”

In May, during a visit to Walker Stalker Con Nashville, Riggs admitted he has “no idea” which superhero he wants to play, but reaffirmed he once auditioned for the role of Spider-Man in the Marvel Cinematic Universe — a gig eventually won by Tom Holland.

The 18-year-old actor, who also auditioned for the role of a younger Han Solo in Solo: A Star Wars Story, told ComicBook.com he “would love to do” big-scale blockbusters.

“It would be awesome, especially now that I have a lot more free time,” Riggs said. “It would be really, really cool.”

Edited June 28, 2018 by tv echo

[tv echo]

7 Arrowverse CW Seed Animated Series We'd Like to See
By NICOLE DRUM - June 26, 2018
http://comicbook.com/dc/2018/06/26/7-arrowverse-cw-seed-animated-series-wed-like-to-see/ 

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"DARTAYUS"
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Yes, Dartayus is a planet in the Negative Zone over in the Marvel world, but it's also the setting of Mick Rory's (Dominic Purcell) romance novel in the episode "Here I Go Again" on Legends of Tomorrow. The story of Buck, a man from a destroyed world that apparently also involves a planet with twin suns and a relationship with an unnamed alien queen, Mick's novel was a surprising and hilarious discovery for his teammates and audiences alike as it seems very unlike Mick to be writing a sci-fi romance. However, now that we know it exists -- and according to Zari (Tala Ashes) is actually good -- we'd love to see it brought to life as an animated series.
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"QUEST FOR THE LAZARUS PITS"
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Willa Holland left Arrow this season with Thea Queen heading off with Nyssa al Ghul to destroy Lazarus Pits that had been discovered by Malcolm Merlyn lest the fall into the wrong hands. While Roy (Colton Haynes) went with her on this quest, Haynes is returning to Arrow for Season 7. We'd like to see what adventures Thea has after she and Nyssa set out to find those Lazarus Pits, especially since we know that the villainous Thanatos Guild is sure to try to stop them.

"THE ADVENTURES OF BEEBO"
"THE LEGION OF SUPERHEROES"
"THE NEW ADVENTURES OF YOUNG STEIN"
"DARTAYUS"
"GAME NIGHT WITH CONSTANTINE AND GARY"
"QUEST FOR THE LAZARUS PITS"
"JAY GARRICK AND THE NEW FLASH"

Edited June 28, 2018 by tv echo

[Velocity23]

Live-Action Titans Unveils First Full-Body Robin Photo

https://www.cbr.com/live-action-titans-first-full-body-robin-photo/?utm_content=buffer59809&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_campaign=CBR-TW

[Velocity23]

[JJ928]

I'm actually impressed with how Robin looks. 

[scarynikki12]

I'm going over the exclusives list for this year's Comic Con and I'm increasingly convinced that there's a conspiracy against me.  Or, against my bank account.  EVERYONE is selling variant covers and prints of Batman #50 and I WANT THEM ALL.  ABC is also selling Golden Girls merch which DOESN'T HELP.  I'm now hoping for super long lines at some of these booths to discourage me from purchasing.  That's what it's coming to.

[tennisgurl]

5 hours ago, tv echo said:

"THE ADVENTURES OF BEEBO"

Where can I donate money to so that this can happen?

[Trini]

Titans forum BTW: http://forums.previously.tv/forum/1421-titans-dc-universe/

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'Composer Sherri Chung Talks Riverdale And The DC Universe'

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I am a huge CW DC universe fan, and I was so excited to learn that you have worked on shows like The Flash and Arrow alongside Blake Neely, how has that experience been for you? Did you work on the Flash musical last year?

So, I started working with him on Supergirl which was really exciting and a huge learning opportunity. Everything from light and comical to heavier accent really driving the content. I really started working with him when he started on Legends of Tomorrow, which was really fun. I worked a little bit on The Flash and got to work on all four shows during the big crossover event. The Flash musical was really a creative challenge but fun to work on. I generally worked on all of them and we did a lot of Skype producing, but Darren Criss did come into the studio. I did work on the one where the character Joe sings, it was all very exciting and fun to work on.

https://culturedvultures.com/interview-composer-sherri-chung-talks-riverdale-and-the-dc-universe/

[tv echo]

Tbh, I'm getting a little tired of dark and moody (and I am not paying for another subscription service)...

Brenton Thwaites Posts Moody Robin Photo to Celebrate Titans Wrap
BY HANNAH SHAW-WILLIAMS – ON JUN 28, 2018 
https://screenrant.com/titans-wrap-brenton-thwaites-robin-photo/

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Titans star Brenton Thwaites has shared a moody behind-the-scenes photo of himself as Dick Grayson a.k.a. Robin, to celebrate the show wrapping its first season. Earlier today we saw two official promo images of Thwaites as Robin, looking battered and battle-weary, which also gave us our first full look at his costume. The show will launch later this year on DC Entertainment's all-new subscription service, DC Universe, which will also include comics, movies, and other TV shows like Young Justice: Outsiders.

Edited June 29, 2018 by tv echo

[tv echo]

Is DC Universe Ignoring The DCEU & Arrowverse?
BY MATT MORRISON – ON JUN 29, 2018 IN SR ORIGINALS
https://screenrant.com/dc-universe-streaming-cw-arrowverse-dceu/

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Is DC Universe outright ignoring the DC Extended Universe and The CW's Arrowverse? The mega streaming platform from DC Entertainment has billed itself as a one-stop shop, yet in the wake of the first trailer for the service, which is expected to start accepting subscribers in Fall 2018, fans are questioning where some of the most recent DC-inspired stories are.
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While promising an expansive line-up of content, the launch trailer made no mention of any DC Comics movies more recent than The Dark Knight Rises, meaning the entire DCEU up to this point: Man of Steel, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman and Justice League. The trailer also didn't showcase any of the DC Comics-inspired series currently in production for The CW Network, including Arrow, Black Lighting, The Flash, Legends of Tomorrow or Supergirl
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Initially questionable, there may be a logical solution that links into the very nature of the service. These more recent DC offerings are currently in the public eye, which means many already have pre-existing subscription and streaming deals that may clash with the DC Universe launch plans; Netflix currently has a hosting agreement with The CW, and while it is uncertain if that includes exclusive streaming rights to these series, it's definitely possible.

When we eventually get to see the DCEU and Arrowverse on DC Universe is thus reliant on these pre-existing deals. The CW's Netflix deal seems pretty forward thinking, so those shows may be a while. The specifics of any DCEU streaming deals aren't known, but with that franchise still growing there are greater concerns that could also get in the way (including home video sales). Both situations may change, but it at the very least won't be part of the release package.

Edited June 29, 2018 by tv echo

[tv echo]

First Look: Leaked Captain Marvel costume reveals with Hulk and Hawkeye too
DAVID BROOKE   JUNE 28, 2018
http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/2018/06/28/first-look-captain-marvel-costume-reveals-with-hulk-and-hawkeye-too/

Edited June 29, 2018 by tv echo

[tv echo]

[tv echo]

DC Universe | This Is Your Universe | Launch Trailer (extended version)
Published on Jun 28, 2018, by DC

[tv echo]

14 Abandoned Twists That Would’ve Saved CW Shows (And 6 That Would’ve Hurt Them)
BY ROBIN BURKS – ON JUL 01, 2018
https://screenrant.com/cw-abandoned-twists-saved-tv-shows/

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The CW is a great offender of forgetting plot twists and changing how things on its shows play out. Some of these plot twists are better left forgotten and not resolved. Others, though, might have saved a show and made it even better. Whatever the case, fans will always wonder, "Whatever happened to that character or that story?"

20 SAVED: THE FLASH FLASHPOINT
19 SAVED: SUPERNATURAL WAYWARD DAUGHTERS/WAYWARD SISTERS
18 HURT: VERONICA MARS JOINING THE FBI
17 SAVED: ARROW AND THE SUICIDE SQUAD
16 SAVED: SUPERGIRL AND MAXWELL LORD
15 SAVED: JESSE TURNER RETURNS
14 HURT: THE VAMPIRE DIARIES WITH VAMPIRES CONTROLLING THE WEATHER
13 SAVED: SUPERGIRL AND CADMUS
12 HURT: SUPERNATURAL BLOODLINES
11 SAVED: HUNTRESS RETURNS
10 HURT: SUPERNATURAL AND CHUCK/GOD
9 SAVED: RIVERDALE’S LODGE VS. MUGGS FAMILY
8 SAVED: SUPERNATURAL'S WEREWOLF HUNTER
7 HURT: MACALLAN ON THE 100
6 SAVED: THE ALIEN PRESIDENT IN SEASON 3
5 SAVED: SUPERGIRL SAVING BIZARRO
4 SAVED: THE FLASH AND THE OTHER METAS ABSORBED BY DEVOE
3 SAVED: THE VAMPIRE DIARIES AND THE BROTHERHOOD OF THE FIVE
2 HURT: LEGENDS OF TOMORROW AND VANDAL SAVAGE’S ASHES
1 SAVED: SMALLVILLE AND DOOMSDAY

Edited July 1, 2018 by tv echo

[tv echo]

Record Scratch: Only 6% Of Your Favorite Shows Use Music Composed By Women
COURTNEY E. SMITH   JULY 1, 2018
https://www.refinery29.com/2018/07/195290/women-composers-sexism-tv-shows-statistics

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In the second golden era of television, composing memorable original scores might seem like a lucrative gig. Ramin Djawadi’s (a Hans Zimmer protégé) Game of Thrones score has become a concert experience that is touring the world under the slogan “music is coming.” The score for Stranger Things, created by Austin synth band S U R V I V E, was popular enough to debut at no. 3 on Billboard’s Alternative Album chart and inspire a performance at the Ace Hotel in downtown Los Angeles staged by Goldenvoice. Bear McCreary has created a cottage industry as the “composer king of Comic-Con,” landing jobs composing for The Walking Dead, Outlander, and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Blake Neely has cornered the market on The CW’s D.C. universe of series, scoring Arrow, Supergirl, The Flash, and Legends of Tomorrow. All these high-profile composers working on some of the most well-respected TV shows of the era have something in common: they’re all men. Women composers simply aren’t getting the same opportunities, even though they have the same training, the same capacity to create, and the same passion for writing music.

“We are trying to get to the bottom of [gender disparity in composers],” says Lolita Ritmanis, the current president of the Alliance for Women Film Composers. “The main thing is a lack of awareness. People may think there are no problems with gender parity, or that people have to just keep trying [to break in to composing]. Or there are no women trying to do it. That is not the case.”

Of 117 scripted primetime network TV shows airing in the 2017-2018 season with an original score, a total of seven list a woman as their composer. That gives women authorship of only 6% of television scores. Things aren’t much better on cable, premium channels, or streaming services: out of 201 series produced or co-produced in the U.S., 11 feature a woman composer, or 5.5%. On the majority of shows from this television season, women shared their credit with a man — along with a portion of the fee for the job.
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The discretion to find someone the showrunner or music supervisor is comfortable with can be seen in male composers who get hired for multiple projects. Atli Örvarsson works on many of the shows in Dick Wolf’s Chicago universe, while electronic collective Photek score a pair of Shondaland shows. Mac Quayle is the go-to on multiple productions by Ryan Murphy. They are all talented composers, but this industry-wide proclivity towards using the same person repeatedly finds men working on multiple shows per season, while equally adept women wait on the sidelines. In the 2017-18 television season, the only woman with multiple credits on a show is Sherri Chung, who works on Riverdale and Blindspot.
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Sherri Chung, who works on Riverdale and Blindspot, credits composer Blake Neely for bringing her on to work with him. He was her advisor in graduate school, and afterwards she kept in touch and began working for him, then with him. Chung insists she’s never felt held back by sexism in her career. She expressed a knowledge of how low the numbers were for working women composers, but was surprised to hear they are this low.

“It’s a difficult industry for everybody. There are less women composing, but I don’t know if that’s the result of us being specifically kept out, or if less women want to go into this industry,” Chung says. “I went to graduate school for composing, and there were two women. So, if only two women go up for jobs, [the lower numbers of women] are not going to be surprising when you look at it across the board. There aren’t 50% women versus men going up for jobs, so what the statistics are showing is the reality that there are less women in the industry.”
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[ABC's American Housewife co-composer Erica] Weis doesn’t recall a big gender difference in her classes at Berklee. “It’s hard to understand why exactly [the number of women composers] is so low, other than it being embedded in how things are for so long that it’s become a pattern.”
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If the idea that men will be freer to explore their creative impulses or more capable of weird working hours is a myth that persists, then it could be influencing the decision-makers who are hiring a surplus of men in composing jobs.
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The decision of who to hire, promote, and spend their time and effort cultivating is very much in the hands of studios, agents, and showrunners. For these gatekeepers, it is imperative that they remain cognizant about diversifying who writes the music for their productions as well as who gets credit on their shows, in order to affect real change in representation.

Edited July 1, 2018 by tv echo

[Trini]

'Sarah Schechter Talks Diversity and Journalism in the Arrowverse'

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After accepting her well-deserved Dan Curtis Legacy Award for her work as President of Berlanti Productions at the 44th Saturn Awards, Sarah Schechter was gracious enough to answer a few questions regarding her vision for the Arrowverse shows as well as the company’s other ongoing and upcoming projects.

Many Berlanti Productions shows have been lauded for their onscreen representation of racial diversity, especially the black-led Black Lightning. But previous years of Arrowverse shows, especially The Flash which has a black family its center and just added two more black women regulars this year, haven’t seen as much diversity behind the cameras as in front of them. When asked about the future of Arrowverse diversity behind the scenes, Schechter said, “It’s been an ongoing effort for us. Every year we have more women and people of color directing, that’s a huge priority for Greg and I. [This season] I think we’re in a really good spot.”

[BkWurm1]

16 hours ago, Trini said:

, haven’t seen as much diversity behind the cameras as in front of them. When asked about the future of Arrowverse diversity behind the scenes, Schechter said, “It’s been an ongoing effort for us. Every year we have more women and people of color directing, that’s a huge priority for Greg and I. [This season] I think we’re in a really good spot.”

I really wish they'd change the bar so that the goal line isn't half white guys and half women OR those with diversity but to make it half and half with the genders and then ALSO make sure there is a good ratio of diversity within the genders but no one should pat themselves on the back if half the slots still automatically go to white males 

[Primal Slayer]

So DC accidentally spoiled the Batcat wedding.....and they pissed me off.

[Chaser]

Wow. A year of build up for that?! The HIMYM of comic books. 

[JJ928]

A lot of people are pissed. I don’t really read comics but I was planning on picking  that one up because of the event, but I won’t now. The whole a hero can’t be happy is old and tiresome, I thought they were finally doing something different.

[Chaser]

I feel bad for the comic stores who are getting pre orders cancelled and who planned events around the release. 

[Delphi]

Here I was,  all ready to forgive dc for the last few years and go buy a comic.  I guess I'll spend that money elsewhere. 

[tv echo]

Warning: spoilers in linked NYTimes article...

Edited July 2, 2018 by tv echo