S06.E00: Matchmaking Special / S06.E01: Wedding Prep

[Gobears]

6 hours ago, 2727 said:

He makes money because he works two jobs 100 hours a week, for crissake. Also? $2300 is not that much to spend on a wedding ring!

Okay, it's a lot for a stranger, but we're supposed to buy in that the cast members TRULY BELIEVE their relationships are going to last a lifetime.

I'll be paying special attention during the episode where the couples discuss finances. Either Ryan's income will decrease considerably because he no longer has time for two jobs, or he and Jaclyn will spend very little time together as he's off working. (My ideal marital arrangement, btw.)

I think it's a little insensitive to brag about how much money you make after finding out that the other two people make less money than you. Per the Reddit forum, the show covered the costs of the rings up to a certain point. Ryan spent $2300 over the show's allotted budget for his bride-to-be's ring so it was quite an expensive ring. I think it's a lot to spend on a ring for a person that you might break up with in a matter of weeks...

Edited January 6, 2018 by Gobears

[KateHearts]

11 hours ago, hoosiermom said:

If Jonathan was fired, can’t he collect unemployment?

My impression was that he was told by his employer that he couldn't continue to be employed there if he accepted to be on the show. So he wasn't fired, he made a choice which included leaving his job.

[Gem 10]

Only one episode and here we all are trying to figure out why this .. Why that and meanwhile the producers are laughing their asses off because this show is scripted and producer driven.  The contestants were picked for a reason to cause DRAMA, make us feel sorry for them, hate them, etc..  And to the bank they all go.  But, I still watch being a hopeless romantic.   How many couples have stayed together since this train wreck started?

[gonecrackers]

I believe it's 3 out of 15 couples that are still together - Jamie/Doug, Cortney/Jason, & Ashley/Anthony.

Edited January 6, 2018 by gonecrackers

[Empress1]

On 1/5/2018 at 11:35 AM, KateHearts said:

Maybe I'm the only one, but I thought it was totally inappropriate for the experts to consider Jaclyn AT ALL when she only lost a significant other a year and a half ago to death. That seems like a choice made simply for drama and to increase viewership.  Sorry, but it takes a long time to get over losing someone due to illness/death and she is young enough that she does not need to be rushed into a forced relationship/marriage at this point. And the fact that the show sought her out- even more underhanded to me. She should have been one of the first candidates to be in the "nope" pile.

 

My other impression was that these people all act as if they are dottering old spinsters/singletons with their talk about "I am SO READY to get married and settle down! " They're in their twenties, for Pete's sake!  And also the comments about "I'm so over the dating scene here in Boston. I can't find anybody." OK, in a city of over half a million people, you just know that there is no one remaining that meets your specifications.  

I agree with you. (Her late boyfriend was handsome.) Grief is really fraught and I think she should have been taken out of the pool immediately. I also don't think Molly should be there - she's only 25 (when she said her career was where she wanted it to be I was like "Already?"). She's far from the point where she's exhausted all her options. While I have heard from many people that Boston is a pretty tough town, especially for transplants (I know several transplants who tried it and left because they found it really unfriendly; I'm not crazy about it as a city even though I have friends there), she's very young and she has plenty of time for trial and error.

I came back from vacation to a new season of this foolishness! Helps ease the transition of going from 80 degrees to 15 degrees. 

I hated Jonathan immediately. He's such a That Guy type (finance bro) and it's a type I don't vibe with at all. (He's also an old-looking 28.) I like Shawniece. I know what she means about her family being great but them having their own lives. As you get older and single, there comes a point where you don't come first to anyone. Jephte is adorable and they're cute together, but Shawniece might be a little too much for him if he's shy and/or an introvert. I find Ryan off-putting for a reason I can't put my finger on, both in looks even though he's pretty average-looking, and in personality.

As someone with big hands (I'm tall) I did not appreciate the ring size shade. I did like all the brides' dresses, and Molly's bridesmaids dresses were nice.

Every time I see Pepper, I realize she must be very very short. In every scene, people are towering over her and she's usually in heels.

Edited January 7, 2018 by Empress1

[humbleopinion]

Think that the couples will be physically attracted to each other and are all 3 pairs are photogenic.

Molly enjoyed her lap dance from the muscular exotic dancer and Jon has a similar build.

Jephte and Shawniece are both have wonderful smiles and expressive faces.

Jaclyn and Ryan both have athletic fit bodies and of all the couples, they have both expressed being fully committed to the social experiment.

When talking to the camera to their future spouses, they parrot each others comments.

[Jassie99]

This is my second time watching the matchmaking episode. Haven't watched since s1. Kinda of like how I rarely watch the the first episode of the bachelor. But I must say I enjoyed it. I enjoyed both episodes . As an AA  I do want to touch on the comment made about AA Men not wanting AA Women.  I think its a sloppy narrative to push through without much context as this was said last yr. I also know that many men outside of the black race are very interested in AA women. Why not cast them? Seem you have to be white Latina ala Lillian or Indian women only wanting to date white ala Devina to get cast/put in an interracial relationship. They need to broaden their base. THOUGH I will say I have a good feeling about Jephte and Shawniece. They seem like they may be adorable together. Anyway,  I really liked the parties. I just really like  Ryan. I see many here don't like him but I absolutely adore him. He's all in and totally adorable. I'm trying to give Jonathan a chance. as he seems set up to be the 'bad" guy.

 

I just wish I could binge this show I hate the cliffhangers.  Though I think last yr we did get to see at least one of the couples meet and marry and there was questions weather the other two will make it down the aisle.  I hope we get less repetition this yr. That really drove me crazy last yr. I can't wait to really see what I think of the couples but based on much of nothing I am hopeful  of J& S as I said and of Ryan and Jacklyn. Who knows about Molly and Jonathan maybe they'll make it.

 

Really excited for the show. Watch I be hating it in like 3 weeks, lol

Edited January 8, 2018 by Jassie99

[ChiBurbsMama]

On 1/4/2018 at 9:25 PM, Evil Queen said:

I wanted to know though if the one had said her spouse to be's name though during the bachelorette party because I thought she did but don't remember hearing them told the names of their would be spouses. Yet I wasn't fully paying attention either. 

I think she was talking with her friends and said something like "I wonder what his name is?" and then she added, "For some reason I have the name 'Ryan" stuck in my head." Her friend at the wedding was reacting to that statement when he introduced himself as Ryan. It's this season's "I had a dream the night before the wedding about the letter A" (TM -Anthony).

[MrSmith]

On 1/6/2018 at 2:40 PM, gonecrackers said:

I believe it's 3 out of 15 couples that are still together - Jamie/Doug, Cortney/Jason, & Ashley/Anthony.

This would be the accurate count at this time.

[humbleopinion]

The name Ryan is very popular for males in their twenties to thirties living in Boston...so while not as awe inspiring as Anthony's Letter A dream, the guessing segment was probably heavily edited to be more amaze-balls than warranted...

Now if Shawniece guessed her future husband's name would be Jephte...well... that would mean someone was leaking insider info...

[Drogo]

I swear he was Jephie in the matchmaking episode and Jephte in the wedding prep episode.  Or I was getting too drunk to make the distinction.

[LennieBriscoe]

Empress1, I didn't see any bridal party dresses! Good thing I'm getting my eyes checked this month!

Re: Anthony and Ashley, and participants' "pre-meetings." No. The show would be totally destroyed if its very premise, its raison d'etre, was found to be fake, and the people merely actors---and liars!---with their friends and family.

Anthony's dream wasn't just the letter "A"; it was an "A" lit up by a flashlight. A flASHLight. I don't think he or anyone else made this up.

Edited January 9, 2018 by LennieBriscoe

[Lily247]

On 1/4/2018 at 10:49 AM, humbleopinion said:

Jaclyn potentially matched with a survivor of cancer seemed too psychologically messed up(even for M@FS)...hey, Dr. Jessica, trauma relationship specialist, why would you let the producers even propose such a thing on TV...

I'm warming up to Ryan being a good paring with Jaclyn...she is more fragile and he can help her heal from her loss.

 

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The experts had absolutey no business putting Jaclyn on this show when she lost the love of her life a mere year and a half ago. I hope that it at least doesnt present an issue because it is a really really cheap way to get drama.

Also, 7.5 is not really considered a "large" ring size, I would say 8 and above would be larger for women, I wonder why that meathead frat boy Jonathan had to make fun of Ryan's fiancee. Jonathan seems like the kind of guy who bullies others to look cool. He also looks kind of short so maybe he has self-esteem issues and projects that onto others. He did show off flexing his muscles for the camera every chance he could. 

[Empress1]

11 hours ago, LennieBriscoe said:

Empress1, I didn't see any bridal party dresses! Good thing I'm getting my eyes checked this month!

Re: Anthony and Ashley, and participants' "pre-meetings." No. The show would be totally destroyed if its very premise, its raison d'etre, was found to be fake, and the people merely actors---and liars!---with their friends and family.

Anthony's dream wasn't just the letter "A"; it was an "A" lit up by a flashlight. A flASHLight. I don't think he or anyone else made this up.

It was just a quick shot. They’re kind of a raspberry color with a v-neck. I only saw those, didn’t see the other two.

[Drogo]

8 minutes ago, Lily247 said:

Also, 7.5 is not really considered a "large" ring size, I would say 8 and above would be larger for women, I wonder why that meathead frat boy Jonathan had to make fun of Ryan's fiancee.

Because he was feeling emasculated by Ryan spending more money on Jaclyn's ring than he had spent on Molly's.  Because it's Ryan's fault Jonathan's unemployed. 

Milady's got a 7 ring size and I could fit two of her hands in one of mine.  Jonathan's a king court jester of cheap shots. 

[MrSmith]

On 1/5/2018 at 10:35 AM, KateHearts said:

Maybe I'm the only one, but I thought it was totally inappropriate for the experts to consider Jaclyn AT ALL when she only lost a significant other a year and a half ago to death. That seems like a choice made simply for drama and to increase viewership.  Sorry, but it takes a long time to get over losing someone due to illness/death and she is young enough that she does not need to be rushed into a forced relationship/marriage at this point. And the fact that the show sought her out- even more underhanded to me. She should have been one of the first candidates to be in the "nope" pile.

 

My other impression was that these people all act as if they are dottering old spinsters/singletons with their talk about "I am SO READY to get married and settle down! " They're in their twenties, for Pete's sake!  And also the comments about "I'm so over the dating scene here in Boston. I can't find anybody." OK, in a city of over half a million people, you just know that there is no one remaining that meets your specifications.  

I disagree. She is obviously ready to date again since she created an online dating account (OkCupid or Match or something). Since she's ready to date, why shouldn't she be considered for this show? Everyone grieves differently and I think you're being unfairly judgmental about how long Jaclyn should be grieving.

[Lovecat]

12 hours ago, LennieBriscoe said:

Anthony's dream wasn't just the letter "A"; it was an "A" lit up by a flashlight. A flASHLight. I don't think he or anyone else made this up.

Heh, that part went right over my head.  I just figured the flashlight was some sort of phallic symbol.

I'll show myself out.  ::hangs head::

[humbleopinion]

Jaclyn could have pulled herself out of the running at anytime during the vetting and interview process and even after she was a final choice.

Agreed that her loss of her bf will be her story.

 

Don't forget to watch the Unfiltered show before the new episode...hosted by Henley's mommy.

[Lily247]

1 hour ago, MrSmith said:

I disagree. She is obviously ready to date again since she created an online dating account (OkCupid or Match or something). Since she's ready to date, why shouldn't she be considered for this show? Everyone grieves differently and I think you're being unfairly judgmental about how long Jaclyn should be grieving.

It's not up to us to judge how long people need to grieve, but I am completely prepared for the episode(s) where Jaclyn is either sobbing about her deceased ex, visiting his grave, or making referencing him during an argument with her current husband. Also, I agree that the show will make it her storyline which is inappropriate given the proximity of his death. Going back into the dating scene is one thing but marrying a stranger on national TV requires an insane amount of emotional levelheadedness. 

Edited January 9, 2018 by Lily247

[KateHearts]

1 hour ago, MrSmith said:

I disagree. She is obviously ready to date again since she created an online dating account (OkCupid or Match or something). Since she's ready to date, why shouldn't she be considered for this show? Everyone grieves differently and I think you're being unfairly judgmental about how long Jaclyn should be grieving.

wanting to "date again" and dipping your toe into the dating scene is not the same as wanting to jump into a marriage at a young age after a tragic loss. Yes, people grieve differently; but sadly, the "experts" on this show have proven they are much more likely to pick someone for ratings rather than really considering whether it's a good idea.  I don't proclaim to know how long someone "should" grieve, but it seems that she lost someone she was very attached to at the age of 23 or so, and doesn't need to be married at this point.

19 minutes ago, Lily247 said:

It's not up to us to judge how long people need to grieve, but I am completely prepared for the episode(s) where Jaclyn is either sobbing about her deceased ex, visiting his grave, or making referencing him during an argument with her current husband. Also, I agree that the show will make it her storyline which is inappropriate given the proximity of his death. Going back into the dating scene is one thing but marrying a stranger on national TV requires an insane amount of emotional levelheadedness. 

This, exactly.

[gonecrackers]

1 hour ago, Lily247 said:

It's not up to us to judge how long people need to grieve, but I am completely prepared for the episode(s) where Jaclyn is either sobbing about her deceased ex, visiting his grave, or making referencing him during an argument with her current husband. Also, I agree that the show will make it her storyline which is inappropriate given the proximity of his death. Going back into the dating scene is one thing but marrying a stranger on national TV requires an insane amount of emotional levelheadedness. 

I wonder how her late fiance's family will feel if this becomes a predominate story line for her on the show.

This seems all around inappropriate & insensitive, IMO.

[Pepper Mostly]

On 1/8/2018 at 10:04 AM, humbleopinion said:

The name Ryan is very popular for males in their twenties to thirties living in Boston...so while not as awe inspiring as Anthony's Letter A dream, the guessing segment was probably heavily edited to be more amaze-balls than warranted...

 

I was only watching with one eye, but I think that they were guessing and landed on Ryan as an all purpose, generic name. (If my son and his friends (early 20's) are any indicator, all boys are named Dylan, Kyle or Tyler, and all girls are named Rachel, Hayley or Alexis.) :-) If he's telling me an anecdote I always have to say "which Rachel? which Dylan?"

[Gobears]

2 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

I was only watching with one eye, but I think that they were guessing and landed on Ryan as an all purpose, generic name. (If my son and his friends (early 20's) are any indicator, all boys are named Dylan, Kyle or Tyler, and all girls are named Rachel, Hayley or Alexis.) :-) If he's telling me an anecdote I always have to say "which Rachel? which Dylan?"

Yes, I am about the age of the participants and I know so many guys named Ryan. It is an incredibly common name. Two of the grooms from season 2 were named that!

Edited January 9, 2018 by Gobears

[Lily247]

Just as a side note, I think that all of the groms will be very pleased when they see their brides, especially Jonathan since Molly looks like Amber Heard. 

Just curious - is Jephte's family from the Caribbean ? He and his mother both have accents similar to that region. Just notice random things. 

Edited January 9, 2018 by Lily247

[Pepper Mostly]

I think Jephte's family is Haitian.

[Kareem]

I have no problem with Jaclyn feeling she's ready to date; her grief process is her business. What surprised me a bit is that out of all the warm bodies they could've matched her with, they chose a man for her who has such a dangerous job.  

[Evil Queen]

On 1/7/2018 at 9:37 PM, ChiBurbsMama said:

I think she was talking with her friends and said something like "I wonder what his name is?" and then she added, "For some reason I have the name 'Ryan" stuck in my head." Her friend at the wedding was reacting to that statement when he introduced himself as Ryan. It's this season's "I had a dream the night before the wedding about the letter A" (TM -Anthony).

Sounds like a total scripted mess to me. LOL Agree it would then be coming off like the flashlight A deal last season. *rollseyes*

 

10 hours ago, Lily247 said:

It's not up to us to judge how long people need to grieve, but I am completely prepared for the episode(s) where Jaclyn is either sobbing about her deceased ex, visiting his grave, or making referencing him during an argument with her current husband. Also, I agree that the show will make it her storyline which is inappropriate given the proximity of his death. Going back into the dating scene is one thing but marrying a stranger on national TV requires an insane amount of emotional levelheadedness. 

10 hours ago, KateHearts said:

wanting to "date again" and dipping your toe into the dating scene is not the same as wanting to jump into a marriage at a young age after a tragic loss. Yes, people grieve differently; but sadly, the "experts" on this show have proven they are much more likely to pick someone for ratings rather than really considering whether it's a good idea.  I don't proclaim to know how long someone "should" grieve, but it seems that she lost someone she was very attached to at the age of 23 or so, and doesn't need to be married at this point.

This, exactly.

2 hours ago, Kareem said:

I have no problem with Jaclyn feeling she's ready to date; her grief process is her business. What surprised me a bit is that out of all the warm bodies they could've matched her with, they chose a man for her who has such a dangerous job.  

While I agree that how everyone deals with grief or how long is different for all BUT this is FAR from being the same thing as jumping into the dating pool. This is jumping into a marriage to a stranger. It would be different if she was just dating the guy IMO. Settle back into that before deciding to get married this way or to some other way. The show picked her though because they feel she will make for good tv drama and nothing more. It is typical of this show to be this low in things though. As well as with how they will match them to make sure to bring out those issues in the person. If I was the family of the man she lost I wouldn't be to happy to see it come up in this show at all. Especially the way they will probably use it. SMH As Katehearts said, they have proven they pick for ratings. They have proven that since Season 2 IMO and its just been worse and worse with each passing season to see if they can one up themselves it feels like. SMH